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[Fiatless]

If actually Bitcoin is the subject matter then buying and selling within the period of one year apparently has nothing to be called anything related to investment but trading because one year is too short for your investment to experience the power of compounded value of your investment, a cycle which is four years would have been better to be described as a short term investment in my perception while four to 10 years or more can be called a long term investment.

Okay I have learned something today, atleast you have given a timeline for short and long term Bitcoin investment. Most people who target to buy during the Bitcoin halving are short-term traders, and that's a very wrong investment approach. I know people who are currently disappointed with the price of Bitcoin because they thought it would have reached $150k. But long term investors are not perturbed because they are still on profit or are not selling.

[inearth]

If actually Bitcoin is the subject matter then buying and selling within the period of one year apparently has nothing to be called anything related to investment but trading because one year is too short for your investment to experience the power of compounded value of your investment, a cycle which is four years would have been better to be described as a short term investment in my perception while four to 10 years or more can be called a long term investment.

Okay I have learned something today, atleast you have given a timeline for short and long term Bitcoin investment. Most people who target to buy during the Bitcoin halving are short-term traders, and that's a very wrong investment approach. I know people who are currently disappointed with the price of Bitcoin because they thought it would have reached $150k. But long term investors are not perturbed because they are still on profit or are not selling.

Short-term investors want to make quick profits, but due to market volatility, they often face big losses, and that is why they can never achieve good success from such trading. But on the other hand, if we look at a long-term investor, that is, those who have been investing for the last three to four years and have been holding regularly, they are certainly in a very good profit now, but even then they will not sell now, because they are very optimistic about the future prospects of Bitcoin, and they know about this prospect, so they will definitely not sell now but plan to buy more regularly. Those who are disappointed with the current Bitcoin movement, and those who will move away from Bitcoin, will regret selling at this time when Bitcoin starts pumping strongly again in the next few days, and goes beyond $150K. in fact the results of holding Bitcoin for a long time are certainly much more valuable, but those who are more worried about short-term fluctuations they are deprived of this profit. That is why every investor should step out of the market hype and move forward steadily with a long-term perspective. Bitcoin is a long-term investment and long-term holding will definitely yield great returns.

[IceLincoln]

I think it is mostly greed that make some people make the decision of trading Bitcoin rather than investing and holding. They believe that investing is too slow and will not give the kind of fast profits they want hence they need fast way of making the profits and trading is one thing that looks like it holds the answer even though in the end it is not always as easy as it seems. Trading is very risky and something not meant for those who are not ready to lose their money. Investing on the hand, is more reliable in the sense that it gives the assurance of profits when held for a long period of time.

I don’t think it’s GREED that makes people trade, it’s the need or desire for fast money just like you said and their impatience to invest. You can say people lose money most times because of GREED, that I can agree. Even as bitcoin has aged and it’s getting more global adoption there are still people who are sceptical about investing. There are people who prefer to pay someone who says he’s a professional trader to trade with their money than invest themselves. No matter how much we sound it that trading is Risky, people are still getting into it.

Investment is a planned and correct strategy of spending resources or time to gain capital. The investment period or duration depends mainly on the individual. Some invest short-term and some long-term. According to your comment, you do not consider keeping it for a year as investment but as gambling or trading. Again, you said that if you keep it for four years, it is an investment.
Yes, Short-term investment and trading are almost same think. If someone keeps it for a year and then sells it profitably, then it is also a trading, And trading is an attempt to make quick profits through short-term buying and selling, which is risky. Some people are making good profits by keeping it for one to two years, while others are making big profits by keeping it for more than four years. However, a long-term attitude and patient attitude are good in investing.

Investment is not a planned and correct strategy of spending resources or time to gain capital rather investment is a choice someone (investor) make to keep on accumulating and holding for a long period of time because they feels that is the best way to go about Bitcoin and it is through long term you can get something tangible. And secondly you don't spend resources in investment rather you buy and store for future use because definitely you will get a profit and I think the people that spend resources are traders because the chance of them losing there resources ( money) is very high so don't misunderstood this.

You’re trying to correct someone and your definition is no way better instead you went ahead to talk on the act of investing, I thought you were gonna give a better definition or you didn’t get that he was tryna give a general view of what investment is before saying his other points. And who says you don’t spend resources on investment (Do you understand what resources are?) Microstrategy sells their MSTR stocks to buy bitcoin, what’s that called?…

[Sim_card]

Trading with bitcoin is a very big mistake for anybody, not just newbies, it shows lack of patience, but beyond that, it also shows complete lack of understanding of how bitcoin works, its not a get-rich quick scheme, it's also not some kind of a magic trick where you wave a wand and the price jumps up on your order, it takes time and should never be used as a source of getting quick cash, this has made many people bankrupt and is still doing so to people who are refusing to understand that bitcoin market it for investing not trading, if a person is deciding to trade with shitcoins, that is their business as is the losses the will accumulate in the process, but never go into bitcoin with the intention of trading.

If we look at the data between traders and investors who are successful with their respective jobs, of course there is still a higher percentage of traders who fail than investors who are unsuccessful because on average almost all Bitcoin investors always manage to make a profit as long as they can be patient for several years by continuing to run their investments routinely. So we can conclude that trading with anything including Bitcoin is a step that contains a higher level of risk so it is very natural for some people to avoid trading and prefer to just make investments without having to bother their heads to keep looking at price charts in the market for Bitcoin or other coins.

I think it is mostly greed that make some people make the decision of trading Bitcoin rather than investing and holding. They believe that investing is too slow and will not give the kind of fast profits they want hence they need fast way of making the profits and trading is one thing that looks like it holds the answer even though in the end it is not always as easy as it seems. Trading is very risky and something not meant for those who are not ready to lose their money. Investing on the hand, is more reliable in the sense that it gives the assurance of profits when held for a long period of time.

some people start trading all because they believe that they want make quick money but i may sell some didn’t see anyone to guide them or explain the benefits between trading and investment and risks involves. If many had known, they wouldn’t have involved themselves in trading Bitcoin. Many are now regretting why they involved themselves in trading after losing some funds.

Some people just see others doing it, and they also want to do it. This mindset often leads people to trading. I once started with trading before I later transitioned to Bitcoin investment, simply because I didn’t have someone to guide me or explain that there are numerous benefits in Bitcoin investment. Trading, on the other hand, involves high risk.

The truth is, nobody likes to lose money. People who are into trading are essentially gambling because they’re just trying their luck time and time again. With Bitcoin investing, even if the price of Bitcoin goes down, an investor still holds the same number of Bitcoins, and there is always future hope for investors. However, in trading, once someone loses, they’ve lost, and their money is gone nothing like having future hope.

There is a lot of confusion among investors about the difference between trading and investing and the risks and safety of investing. Trading is generally risky because it is directly related to the ups and downs of the market and investors can make or lose money quickly. On the other hand, if you want to invest in Bitcoin for the long term and if you can hold on to it even if the price drops and expect the future price to increase, then patience and a long-term perspective are required. Any investment has risks, but it is also possible to manage that risk properly. The DCA strategy is very effective in long-term investments and it plays an important role in reducing risk. The DCA strategy keeps the average purchase price of the investment stable and protects it from market volatility. It is a safe and powerful way for investors to increase the possibility of long-term profits. It is good to make decisions with confidence in both trading and investing. Since trading changes very quickly, the right steps should be taken by looking at the market reaction in favorable situations because most people expect quick profits in trading, but on the contrary, there is high risk and you can easily face losses. In a volatile market like Bitcoin, long-term investments have low risks and have high chances of future profits. However, it is most important to understand your financial situation and risk-taking ability and make the right decisions by creating a proper plan.

Don't misunderstand important of using DCA method to accumulate bitcoin. Bitcoin is a volatile asset and will always remain volatile whether you are using DCA method or not to accumulate bitcoin. DCA doesn't kill the volatility in bitcoin. It's because of the volatile nature of bitcoin that makes it very important for you to accumulate and grow your bitcoin portfolio overtime, because DCA gives you the opportunity to buy bitcoin at any price irrespective the price of bitcoin.

One thing that I love with DCA is that, it gives you the room to accumulate more bitcoin overtime and also doing other things without feeling it as long as you are using the right amount of your discretionary income to invest regular every week consistently and persistently for 4-10 years and above.

[POPOLUV]

If actually Bitcoin is the subject matter then buying and selling within the period of one year apparently has nothing to be called anything related to investment but trading because one year is too short for your investment to experience the power of compounded value of your investment, a cycle which is four years would have been better to be described as a short term investment in my perception while four to 10 years or more can be called a long term investment.

Okay I have learned something today, atleast you have given a timeline for short and long term Bitcoin investment. Most people who target to buy during the Bitcoin halving are short-term traders, and that's a very wrong investment approach. I know people who are currently disappointed with the price of Bitcoin because they thought it would have reached $150k. But long term investors are not perturbed because they are still on profit or are not selling.

I so much believe that learning always took place in everyday of our life, because knowledge is really power indeed, so talking about short-term investment, those investors that always make use of short term investment i see those investors as a gambling, because they are betting not investing, they are just for quick money making not to wait till dip finally happen, so buying in the dip and hold in a long term investment is the best.

[JayJuanGee]

If holding bitcoin for a year and sell it is called Investment according to you then what will you call some one who holds for 4 years and above, you should know today that holding bitcoin for a year and sell is not an investment but gambling / trading, as an investor you are supposed to buy bitcoin and hodl for long before even thinking of thinking of sell bitcoin those that sells in short time sometimes regret why not hodl bitcoin for long as a new investor your thoughts should be how you can buy more bitcoin from your discretionary Income and hodl for long regularly buying with the dca strategy you can buy bitcoin every weeks or every months consistently for 4-10 and hodl.

Buying and selling Bitcoin within one year could be called a short-term investment. But the truth is that there is no guarantee that you will make a profit within one year of Bitcoin investment. If you have a one year plan there is a high chance that you might sell at a loss. It is better to have a long-term approach because it might lead to more profit, help you to overcome FUD and save you the stress of always monitoring the market

If actually Bitcoin is the subject matter then buying and selling within the period of one year apparently has nothing to be called anything related to investment but trading because one year is too short for your investment to experience the power of compounded value of your investment, a cycle which is four years would have been better to be described as a short term investment in my perception while four to 10 years or more can be called a long term investment.

I would say less than 4 years is trading rather than investing, and 4-10 years is short-term investing, and more than 10 years is regular and potentially long-term investing... yet I doubt that these kinds of labels matter very much, except to just get a bit of a framework regarding how any of us might potentially think about matters related to our bitcoin holdings in general ways.

There can be various justified changes in behaviors in regards to these kinds of timeline considerations in respect to other aspects of a person's personal financial and/or psychological factors... I think that many guys would like to try to get to a point to be able to passively live off of their bitcoin investment and to draw some kind of a livable income from it.. or perhaps for the bitcoin to supplement other aspects of their income in livable and sustainable ways.

Surely some guys are still trying to build their bitcoin holdings by trading it, yet there are so many times that a guy might sell large portions of his bitcoin while expecting to buy back cheaper, yet the trade does not go as expected and then the guy ends up in a kind of loop of wrong thinking and wrong practices that causes him to have way less bitcoin than what he would have otherwise been able to have if he had stayed focus on accumulating bitcoin through more straight-forwards ongoing and persistent buying ways.

I think it is mostly greed that make some people make the decision of trading Bitcoin rather than investing and holding. They believe that investing is too slow and will not give the kind of fast profits they want hence they need fast way of making the profits and trading is one thing that looks like it holds the answer even though in the end it is not always as easy as it seems. Trading is very risky and something not meant for those who are not ready to lose their money. Investing on the hand, is more reliable in the sense that it gives the assurance of profits when held for a long period of time.

It is this kind of greed that is slowly destroying them.
I have a friend who does different things to what I'm doing right now because when I was in investments in the last few years and he did it with trading.

It is undeniable that the profits he has made in one day are quite large to get which makes him sometimes more arrogant because he gets big profits from the trading he does and sometimes compares with the investments I have made in recent years in bitcoin.
But on the other hand in the end sooner or later losses began to hit and the peak was this month where he almost lost 80 percent of the balance he had due to the trading he did which made him now more temperamental and tried to close or increase the load so as not to be exposed to liquidity by selling some valuables including the property he had.

This is an example of when traders and investors become different things. I am now still quite comfortable with what I am doing where I am still not bothered by the current price but in contrast to my colleague who did last month have problems and almost burned because the trading he did was not in line with expectations which made me think that traders are not something that everyone can do because sooner or later they can be destroyed by the actions they do. So, although I will not prohibit those who become traders but it would be better if it is reconsidered if indeed we choose that path.

Traders will frequently tell you about their gains, but they won't tell you about their losses, and another thing if there are two guys putting money into bitcoin for a couple of cycles, the trader would hardly have any abilities to perform as well as the one who just put the money into bitcoin and did not try to trade it. 

The trader will also likely end up shifting back and forth about whether he is buying, selling and/or waiting, while the one who is ongoingly buying will not lose his focus, and he will keep buying. .and yeah, even if the buying one screws up by buying too much at certain prices and/or not buying enough at other prices, at least he is able to stay focused on ongoing and persistent buying.. There can be some comfort in the ongoing buying in terms of building up the bitcoin holdings in reliable kinds of ways that ultimately becomes difficult to beat for anyone trying to trade and/or to keep up or to catch up to the one who is ongoingly buying.

[Barikui1]

Traders will frequently tell you about their gains, but they won't tell you about their losses, and another thing if there are two guys putting money into bitcoin for a couple of cycles, the trader would hardly have any abilities to perform as well as the one who just put the money into bitcoin and did not try to trade it.  

The trader will also likely end up shifting back and forth about whether he is buying, selling and/or waiting, while the one who is ongoingly buying will not lose his focus, and he will keep buying. .and yeah, even if the buying one screws up by buying too much at certain prices and/or not buying enough at other prices, at least he is able to stay focused on ongoing and persistent buying.. There can be some comfort in the ongoing buying in terms of building up the bitcoin holdings in reliable kinds of ways that ultimately becomes difficult to beat for anyone trying to trade and/or to keep up or to catch up to the one who is ongoingly buying.

This is just the exact truth about it, and you were actually spot on when you said that traders will never speak of their losses because they don't want to be seen as if they are failing, they only talk about their gain, then on the longer run that's where they fail the most when talking about gains, because they will be no where near a Bitcoin investor that hold for a very long period of time just as you have rightfully said, because all those minimal gains they mostly sell for, if they don't even lose all their money in the process can't even have any significant impact on the finances compared to someone that acquire a very good stash and hold for a very long time.

As for the stress of executing both, they are quite the opposite, because the stress involved in trading is just too much considering how dangerous it is, you must be extremely skilled in the craft for you to even be a profitable trader, unlike investing in Bitcoin where anyone that has the basic knowledge of it, can start accumulating it through the DCA accumulating strategy, then hold for a very long time, as long as he or she knows the measures that needs to be in place, like having a source of income and an emergency funds.
Once all this are in place, their is nothing stopping that person from not being successful, but with trading you can still know it all and still be losing money.

[As-Soon-As]

If actually Bitcoin is the subject matter then buying and selling within the period of one year apparently has nothing to be called anything related to investment but trading because one year is too short for your investment to experience the power of compounded value of your investment, a cycle which is four years would have been better to be described as a short term investment in my perception while four to 10 years or more can be called a long term investment.

Okay I have learned something today, atleast you have given a timeline for short and long term Bitcoin investment. Most people who target to buy during the Bitcoin halving are short-term traders, and that's a very wrong investment approach. I know people who are currently disappointed with the price of Bitcoin because they thought it would have reached $150k. But long term investors are not perturbed because they are still on profit or are not selling.

I so much believe that learning always took place in everyday of our life, because knowledge is really power indeed, so talking about short-term investment, those investors that always make use of short term investment i see those investors as a gambling, because they are betting not investing, they are just for quick money making not to wait till dip finally happen, so buying in the dip and hold in a long term investment is the best.

Yes I think long term investment is the best, but many people try to choose this best but due to lack of experience and strategic knowledge many investors get left out. You can see that long term investment requires a strong wallet and experience, you need to have the ability to take risks, and you can participate in Bitcoin investment through deep buying and DCA method.
But if you are in a financial crisis, then it is most important for you to do DCA method, in this you can benefit while saving money and doing Bitcoin DCA method weekly.

[Sonia_123]

If actually Bitcoin is the subject matter then buying and selling within the period of one year apparently has nothing to be called anything related to investment but trading because one year is too short for your investment to experience the power of compounded value of your investment, a cycle which is four years would have been better to be described as a short term investment in my perception while four to 10 years or more can be called a long term investment.

Okay I have learned something today, atleast you have given a timeline for short and long term Bitcoin investment. Most people who target to buy during the Bitcoin halving are short-term traders, and that's a very wrong investment approach. I know people who are currently disappointed with the price of Bitcoin because they thought it would have reached $150k. But long term investors are not perturbed because they are still on profit or are not selling.

I so much believe that learning always took place in everyday of our life, because knowledge is really power indeed, so talking about short-term investment, those investors that always make use of short term investment i see those investors as a gambling, because they are betting not investing, they are just for quick money making not to wait till dip finally happen, so buying in the dip and hold in a long term investment is the best.

Yes I think long term investment is the best, but many people try to choose this best but due to lack of experience and strategic knowledge many investors get left out. You can see that long term investment requires a strong wallet and experience, you need to have the ability to take risks, and you can participate in Bitcoin investment through deep buying and DCA method.
But if you are in a financial crisis, then it is most important for you to do DCA method, in this you can benefit while saving money and doing Bitcoin DCA method weekly.

Long-term investment is the only investment that can make you buy and accumulate Bitcoin with ease by using the DCA strategy as long as you have a steady monthly income that is enough to take care of your expenses for the month and still have a reservation that will allow you buy Bitcoin bit by bit whenever you want to.

Traders don't believe in long-term investment, they see it as a way of tying their resources, they believe the make a lot of profit from trading than investing for a long-term term and that is why they keep on wanting to convince other to join them by frequently discussing their gains and not their loss

[Derekfunds]

If actually Bitcoin is the subject matter then buying and selling within the period of one year apparently has nothing to be called anything related to investment but trading because one year is too short for your investment to experience the power of compounded value of your investment, a cycle which is four years would have been better to be described as a short term investment in my perception while four to 10 years or more can be called a long term investment.

Okay I have learned something today, atleast you have given a timeline for short and long term Bitcoin investment. Most people who target to buy during the Bitcoin halving are short-term traders, and that's a very wrong investment approach. I know people who are currently disappointed with the price of Bitcoin because they thought it would have reached $150k. But long term investors are not perturbed because they are still on profit or are not selling.

I so much believe that learning always took place in everyday of our life, because knowledge is really power indeed, so talking about short-term investment, those investors that always make use of short term investment i see those investors as a gambling, because they are betting not investing, they are just for quick money making not to wait till dip finally happen, so buying in the dip and hold in a long term investment is the best.

Yes I think long term investment is the best, but many people try to choose this best but due to lack of experience and strategic knowledge many investors get left out. You can see that long term investment requires a strong wallet and experience, you need to have the ability to take risks, and you can participate in Bitcoin investment through deep buying and DCA method.
But if you are in a financial crisis, then it is most important for you to do DCA method, in this you can benefit while saving money and doing Bitcoin DCA method weekly.

How will you advise someone that has financial crisis to still invest in Bitcoin whether DCA or not, it is very obvious that the investment will not last for long because when we make mention of financial crisis it may be that a person went to take loan or borrow money and haven't pay back or is unable to... or the person took risk and has incured heavy loss, financial crisis encompasses of so many things and I don't think anyone in that situation or State can be able to invest in Bitcoin because there attention will be divided they will lack concentration and like I said earlier if they should try they will sell in loss.

[ZeroVinsonN]

I think it is mostly greed that make some people make the decision of trading Bitcoin rather than investing and holding. They believe that investing is too slow and will not give the kind of fast profits they want hence they need fast way of making the profits and trading is one thing that looks like it holds the answer even though in the end it is not always as easy as it seems. Trading is very risky and something not meant for those who are not ready to lose their money. Investing on the hand, is more reliable in the sense that it gives the assurance of profits when held for a long period of time.

I don’t think it’s GREED that makes people trade, it’s the need or desire for fast money just like you said and their impatience to invest. You can say people lose money most times because of GREED, that I can agree. Even as bitcoin has aged and it’s getting more global adoption there are still people who are sceptical about investing. There are people who prefer to pay someone who says he’s a professional trader to trade with their money than invest themselves. No matter how much we sound it that trading is Risky, people are still getting into it.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe wanting to make fast money qualifies as greed to me, especially in situations where making fast money is easier said than done just like in bitcoin investment, because investing in bitcoin will take a person years, at least one cycle,  for them to actually make a reasonable profit out of it. so GREED has to be what makes people want to make quick profits from bitcoin, and it's that same greed that has lead to alot of the failures.

[Sim_card]

If actually Bitcoin is the subject matter then buying and selling within the period of one year apparently has nothing to be called anything related to investment but trading because one year is too short for your investment to experience the power of compounded value of your investment, a cycle which is four years would have been better to be described as a short term investment in my perception while four to 10 years or more can be called a long term investment.

Okay I have learned something today, atleast you have given a timeline for short and long term Bitcoin investment. Most people who target to buy during the Bitcoin halving are short-term traders, and that's a very wrong investment approach. I know people who are currently disappointed with the price of Bitcoin because they thought it would have reached $150k. But long term investors are not perturbed because they are still on profit or are not selling.

I so much believe that learning always took place in everyday of our life, because knowledge is really power indeed, so talking about short-term investment, those investors that always make use of short term investment i see those investors as a gambling, because they are betting not investing, they are just for quick money making not to wait till dip finally happen, so buying in the dip and hold in a long term investment is the best.

Buying at the dip isn't the best accumulation strategy for a new investor because it keeps you on the waiting zone making you to miss out the opportunity of building and growing your bitcoin portfolio in a fast pace. Waiting is never a good strategy for anyone, because you are waiting for the dip that may or may not occur.

DCA accumulation strategy has given you the opportunity to build and grow your bitcoin investment with part of your discretionary income for 4-10 years and above. As long as you are persistent in accumulating bitcoin every week consistently, your bitcoin portfolio will increase in size overtime. Don't mislead new investors that waiting is the best option for a no-coiner and a low coiner because regrets will be the end when you only have little bitcoin in your portfolio.

I will prefer to accumulate as many bitcoin as possible with DCA  disregard of the price of bitcoin, so that in future I'll have a good size of portfolio than to be waiting and have a small size of bitcoin portfolio at a cheaper rate. It's the quantity of bitcoin that you were able to accumulate that will determine your success in your bitcoin investment journey.

[Bd officer]

Okay I have learned something today, atleast you have given a timeline for short and long term Bitcoin investment. Most people who target to buy during the Bitcoin halving are short-term traders, and that's a very wrong investment approach. I know people who are currently disappointed with the price of Bitcoin because they thought it would have reached $150k. But long term investors are not perturbed because they are still on profit or are not selling.

Yes, those who made short-term investments are panicking now. Because their goal was to sell at $150k plus, but currently the price of Bitcoin is $86k. You will see many people who bought $100k and wanted to sell at the highest price during the bull run, but their plans backfired. So short term investment is always risky, you will face loss instead of profit if you invest in short term.

Those who have long-term plans, are able to hold on in any situation. Currently the market is very volatile, but those with long-term plans still prefer to buy the DCA method. Long-term investors plan to continue holding for 8-10 years or more.

[Samlucky O]

If actually Bitcoin is the subject matter then buying and selling within the period of one year apparently has nothing to be called anything related to investment but trading because one year is too short for your investment to experience the power of compounded value of your investment, a cycle which is four years would have been better to be described as a short term investment in my perception while four to 10 years or more can be called a long term investment.

Okay I have learned something today, atleast you have given a timeline for short and long term Bitcoin investment. Most people who target to buy during the Bitcoin halving are short-term traders, and that's a very wrong investment approach. I know people who are currently disappointed with the price of Bitcoin because they thought it would have reached $150k. But long term investors are not perturbed because they are still on profit or are not selling.

I so much believe that learning always took place in everyday of our life, because knowledge is really power indeed, so talking about short-term investment, those investors that always make use of short term investment i see those investors as a gambling, because they are betting not investing, they are just for quick money making not to wait till dip finally happen, so buying in the dip and hold in a long term investment is the best.

buying the dip is just one of the strategy of buying or accumulating bitcoin, but not the best. one of the best strategy of buying bitcoin is the DCA strategy because you buy without considering the market condition, because buying only the dip makes it looks like a trader or a person who is in for short time profit or taken advantage of the dip in the market. it is best you combine the 3 strategy to make a good accumulation process. waiting to buy the dip can be deceptive because bitcoin dip is endless meaning that you may be confused  of the perfect time to buy and it may create a confused mindset and may lead to procrastination or  making you become a low coiner because you find it hard to invest.

[Zackz5000]

If actually Bitcoin is the subject matter then buying and selling within the period of one year apparently has nothing to be called anything related to investment but trading because one year is too short for your investment to experience the power of compounded value of your investment, a cycle which is four years would have been better to be described as a short term investment in my perception while four to 10 years or more can be called a long term investment.

Okay I have learned something today, atleast you have given a timeline for short and long term Bitcoin investment. Most people who target to buy during the Bitcoin halving are short-term traders, and that's a very wrong investment approach. I know people who are currently disappointed with the price of Bitcoin because they thought it would have reached $150k. But long term investors are not perturbed because they are still on profit or are not selling.

I so much believe that learning always took place in everyday of our life, because knowledge is really power indeed, so talking about short-term investment, those investors that always make use of short term investment i see those investors as a gambling, because they are betting not investing, they are just for quick money making not to wait till dip finally happen, so buying in the dip and hold in a long term investment is the best.

You should be doing more of reading than posting expecially in this thread so you can understand more and also know the difference between accumulating bitcoin regularly and waiting for the dip to accur before accumulating Bitcoin because your last sentence is not the Best investment strategy as you clam but gambling/trading because you choose to wait for the dip before accumulating Bitcoin so that's never the best investment strategy so you won't mislead other newbies to wait for the dip before accumulating Bitcoin.
The DCA strategy helps you to accumulate Bitcoin at regular interval either accumulating Bitcoin every weeks or months, with the DCA strategy you will no longer be waiting for bitcoin to dip before accumulating because you will accumulating Bitcoin irrespective of the price of Bitcoin rather than waiting for the dip which may or may not happen. Moreover buying the dip is not the best strategy rather it should be an opportunity to accumulate more Bitcoin.

[Mayor of ogba]

I agree with you here. $90 and $10 man such investor will be seen to be an unserious investor or a greedy one. Only an investor who is not ready to invest properly into Bitcoin will invest only $10 out of the $90 discretionary income. Unless he has other places he is investing into it. Maybe he is diversifying his portfolio so he only choose to invest 9% of his discretionary income in Bitcoin but that is not an ideal way to invest.

For newbies that just started its either they should focus on Bitcoin on the early stage rather than diversifying into several asset with the same frequency they are using to DCA in Bitcoin. After they must have had a good amount of Bitcoin in their portfolio they can choose to diversify. Diversification should come only when they are properly settled with the first Bitcoin investment goal if not they will only end up having little amount of Bitcoin in their portfolio. Meanwhile on the contrary they are jeopardizing their investment gradually thinking they are investing the right way.

I disagree with you, if someone is earning $90 a week or a month and then the person decide to use $10 to be accumulating it is not wrong reason because you don't know what the person is taking care of and before he decided to use $10 it is possible that it is the only money he or she can spare or let go as a matter of fact the $10 is even more than 10% of $90 so it is not wrong rather Bitcoin investment most times is based on capacity how much you can handle your investment so that you don't run into problem.

I join you in disagreeing with him, you see, some people think based on their personality and responsibilities without carefully learning why the person who decided to use $10 out of $90 decided that. That money is also big and sustaining in some countries, the exchange rate has to be considered too.

Besides, what can the person who keeps $80 to himself but invests $10 in Bitcoin possibly lose or suffer just for the shortfall of the $10? I call this a commitment to investment and dedication to Bitcoin. The good part is that it will help fight unnecessary spending on wants and frivolities, and most importantly help the person secure a better finance in the future.

Before you join Derekfunds in disagreeing with what Pi$$ said about the investor using $10 to accumulate bitcoin with the DCA strategy, you should have read from where the discussion started so as to have a clear understanding and the reason that led Pi$$ to make such a moment. The discussion started where Proty said that an investor who has $90 as discretionary income should invest $10 into bitcoin with the DCA strategy either on a weekly or monthly basis and keep $80 in his reserve fund so that anytime a dip happens, the investor will gradually be buying the dip with the $80.

I stand by my words and I don't care about what the two of them said earlier but about the contxet and the explanation I replied to. You can read it again, it's detailed enough for me to reply to that, it's your choice if you escalate it to many previous discussions. However, even if it were to be escalated as you said it, I still back the guy because everybody has their plan, so let them breath, it mustn't be our way all the time. If someone earned $90 as income this month and planned to use all in Bitcoin investment which will be spread over some period on DCA, why not? Do you know his savings and financial standing before the decision or what he planned to fall back at? Let's stop believing we can plan people's life and investment for them.

The problem with you is that you are too entitled to your opinion, and it has made you not to read meaning from what someone else is saying. If the discussion was about someone who has $90 as discretionary income and decided to invest the $90 in bitcoin with the DCA strategy across one month, it would have been better, and I would agree to what you said, but since the discussion was about an investor who has $90 as discretionary income to be invested in bitcoin and the investor decided to use $10 to accumulate bitcoin monthly and keep the remaining $80 to be used in buying various dips, I think that is not the right way for the investor to go about bitcoin investment since the investor might likely be a no coiner and that strategy will not help the investor to gradually increase his bitcoin portfolio. Since the investor has decided to use the $90 on a bitcoin investment, it would be better if the investor used the DCA strategy to accumulate bitcoin weekly since the investor is likely to be a no coiner so that the investor can be increasing his bitcoin portfolio gradually rather than waiting for a dip the investor is not certain if a dip will happen today or tomorrow.

[Taskford]

Okay I have learned something today, atleast you have given a timeline for short and long term Bitcoin investment. Most people who target to buy during the Bitcoin halving are short-term traders, and that's a very wrong investment approach. I know people who are currently disappointed with the price of Bitcoin because they thought it would have reached $150k. But long term investors are not perturbed because they are still on profit or are not selling.

I so much believe that learning always took place in everyday of our life, because knowledge is really power indeed, so talking about short-term investment, those investors that always make use of short term investment i see those investors as a gambling, because they are betting not investing, they are just for quick money making not to wait till dip finally happen, so buying in the dip and hold in a long term investment is the best.

buying the dip is just one of the strategy of buying or accumulating bitcoin, but not the best. one of the best strategy of buying bitcoin is the DCA strategy because you buy without considering the market condition, because buying only the dip makes it looks like a trader or a person who is in for short time profit or taken advantage of the dip in the market. it is best you combine the 3 strategy to make a good accumulation process. waiting to buy the dip can be deceptive because bitcoin dip is endless meaning that you may be confused  of the perfect time to buy and it may create a confused mindset and may lead to procrastination or  making you become a low coiner because you find it hard to invest.

That is just another common strategy which other people believe easy to execute. But actually of they are there for sure they would just get confused about on when they would placed their position especially that the market movement is confusing and they provably just delay their investment because they keep waiting for that opportunity to come.

For me I don't suggest people to combine any of these 3 strategy since what I want people to learn is be straight to the point on their intention and continue to accumulate whatever the price Bitcoin shows in the market. Buying now would give huge convenience to people because they don't have other unnecessary things to think about.

[Agbamoni]

Yes I think long term investment is the best, but many people try to choose this best but due to lack of experience and strategic knowledge many investors get left out. You can see that long term investment requires a strong wallet and experience, you need to have the ability to take risks, and you can participate in Bitcoin investment through deep buying and DCA method.
But if you are in a financial crisis, then it is most important for you to do DCA method, in this you can benefit while saving money and doing Bitcoin DCA method weekly.

It is a terrible idea to advice anyone with financial crisis to invest in Bitcoin. At some point he will have no choice than to crash his investment if doesn't come out of it after some time. In as much as we don't need to be very rich before we can start accumulating. There mut be balance in our finance if we want to have healthy investment in Bitcoin. By balance, i mean free from loan default, having emergency funds, savings and covering all expenses we need.

Also, every other experience can come when you already start your investment. You don't need to wait to have all the knowledge before you start investing. 

[Mayor of ogba]

If someone is interested in short-term investments instead of long-term investments, then they can carefully observe the market fluctuations and then make decisions.

As you are still in your learning process, I won't blame you so much for sounding this way, but I want you to understand that trading bitcoin for short-term profit will only expose you to buying bitcoin with most of your money so that you will stand the chance of making short-term profit if the price of bitcoin increases, and if the price of bitcoin doesn't increase as you were expecting and since you used most of your money to buy bitcoin, you will have no other choice but to sell your bitcoin even at a loss to get your daily expenses solved. As a no coiner, you shouldn't even be talking about short-term profit because it might likely distract you from investing in bitcoin for the long term. As a no coiner, I would prefer you to channel your attention on investing in bitcoin for the long term, and you should adopt the DCA strategy so that it will allow you to accumulate bitcoin anytime you want to accumulate bitcoin without even observing the market fluctuation, and you will have the chance to build up your portfolio gradually.

[SuperBitMan]

Yes I think long term investment is the best, but many people try to choose this best but due to lack of experience and strategic knowledge many investors get left out. You can see that long term investment requires a strong wallet and experience, you need to have the ability to take risks, and you can participate in Bitcoin investment through deep buying and DCA method.
But if you are in a financial crisis, then it is most important for you to do DCA method, in this you can benefit while saving money and doing Bitcoin DCA method weekly.

It is a terrible idea to advice anyone with financial crisis to invest in Bitcoin. At some point he will have no choice than to crash his investment if doesn't come out of it after some time. In as much as we don't need to be very rich before we can start accumulating. There mut be balance in our finance if we want to have healthy investment in Bitcoin. By balance, i mean free from loan default, having emergency funds, savings and covering all expenses we need.

Also, every other experience can come when you already start your investment. You don't need to wait to have all the knowledge before you start investing. 

You are very correct some set of people even argue that one can invest in Bitcoin even without having to stable source of income and I ask how if as a person you don't have to stable source of income and you have Bitcoin if maybe you are in need of settling your basic things such as food, shelter and other things how will you do it you will have no other choice but to dip hands into your Bitcoin investment so is not possible to succeed in Bitcoin investment without having to stable source of income.

Yes it is true that you don't need to wait to have all the knowledge about Bitcoin before you can start investing however among the basic knowledge you should have before starting is the history of Bitcoin growth my reason for saying this is because we see newbies always panicking when there's a dip some even sell of there Bitcoin because of fear and panic and the reason why this is happening to them is because they don't have the knowledge about Bitcoin growth, if they go through the history of Bitcoin growth then they will see for there self that bitcoin goes up sometimes come down in price and will not panic again if there's a dip.