Buy Buy Buy or Sell Sell Sell?

[I_Anime]

You sound lost Bravut.  Of course withdrawing bitcoin is the same as selling, so if guys are taking too much profits too soon, then they surely could end up screwing up their bitcoin portfolio building and never making any progress in regards to really getting their BTC holdings up to a high enough level to really profit from being in t bitcoin.

I agree with you JJG, selling too much Bitcoin when one haven't gotten a good number or fraction of Bitcoin in there portfolio is not good because sometimes after selling you won't see the need to invest again or sometimes you won't see the opportunity you were hoping that made you sell your Bitcoin, selling is not actually bad per say but as a low coiner or a beginner you don't have or need to sell your Bitcoin but for someone who have hold for years and has a good amount can sell but not up to 10-30% of there investment because our portfolio will not look nice and one funny thing about Bitcoin investment is that selling can be so easy but buying back an holding can be very hard that is why we shouldn't sell a high percentage of our investment.

Buying bitcoin is easy as just selling it , but buying back after selling ( when trying to act smart) is not certain because how sure are you bitcoin is going to dip the price you want before buying because no one have the ability to control bitcoin price rather we can only speculate.

So better not to sell at all , so that you won’t find yourself in such situations and if you have any healthy treating issue you can use your reserves funds if it is not enough,and things getting worse , then you can think of taken from your investment in order to complete the payment because you got priorities your health also .

[Derekfunds]

You sound lost Bravut.  Of course withdrawing bitcoin is the same as selling, so if guys are taking too much profits too soon, then they surely could end up screwing up their bitcoin portfolio building and never making any progress in regards to really getting their BTC holdings up to a high enough level to really profit from being in t bitcoin.

I agree with you JJG, selling too much Bitcoin when one haven't gotten a good number or fraction of Bitcoin in there portfolio is not good because sometimes after selling you won't see the need to invest again or sometimes you won't see the opportunity you were hoping that made you sell your Bitcoin, selling is not actually bad per say but as a low coiner or a beginner you don't have or need to sell your Bitcoin but for someone who have hold for years and has a good amount can sell but not up to 10-30% of there investment because our portfolio will not look nice and one funny thing about Bitcoin investment is that selling can be so easy but buying back an holding can be very hard that is why we shouldn't sell a high percentage of our investment.

Buying bitcoin is easy as just selling it , but buying back after selling ( when trying to act smart) is not certain because how sure are you bitcoin is going to dip the price you want before buying because no one have the ability to control bitcoin price rather we can only speculate.

So better not to sell at all , so that you won’t find yourself in such situations and if you have any healthy treating issue you can use your reserves funds if it is not enough,and things getting worse , then you can think of taken from your investment in order to complete the payment because you got priorities your health also .

I disagree with you, buying Bitcoin and holding is not as easy as selling because starting Bitcoin investment seems to be hard for some investors and sometimes they will be procrastinating and sometimes they will be waiting for Bitcoin to Dip before they will invest but once they have invested and there is profit, selling it can not take much time as it took them to invest especially people who are investing for short term.

Perhaps you should try to be specifying what you are saying ( category of investors that are not suppose to sell ) because investors who has gotten to there overaccumulation stage can sell if they wish to sell and nothing is wrong about that and even while they sell, they will always sell wisely that is a percentage that won't look like they even remove something from there portfolio so that covering up won't take them time but an investor with a small portfolio, selling will be a very bad decision or act to display because they have a long way to go.

[Agbamoni]

Perhaps you should try to be specifying what you are saying ( category of investors that are not suppose to sell ) because investors who has gotten to there overaccumulation stage can sell if they wish to sell and nothing is wrong about that and even while they sell, they will always sell wisely that is a percentage that won't look like they even remove something from there portfolio so that covering up won't take them time but an investor with a small portfolio, selling will be a very bad decision or act to display because they have a long way to go.

Your statement might be misleading to those who have big portfolio that want to sell wisely. In as much as selling wisely should be considered, long term investors at times can make wrong decisions to sell when the market conditions are not in place. Technically i accept that timing the market is necessarily when we want to sell some fractions of our inestemnt. With a big size portofolio investors should understand that there must be a reason why you are selling if not there is no point selling yet when you can still keep it long more. The reasons should be solid, if the inteiton is to sell in order to hold FIAT it is not a wise move although we can do whatever we like as long as we have a big size portfolio and nothing could go wrong after all.

[JayJuanGee]

You sound lost Bravut.  Of course withdrawing bitcoin is the same as selling, so if guys are taking too much profits too soon, then they surely could end up screwing up their bitcoin portfolio building and never making any progress in regards to really getting their BTC holdings up to a high enough level to really profit from being in t bitcoin.

I agree with you JJG, selling too much Bitcoin when one haven't gotten a good number or fraction of Bitcoin in there portfolio is not good because sometimes after selling you won't see the need to invest again or sometimes you won't see the opportunity you were hoping that made you sell your Bitcoin, selling is not actually bad per say but as a low coiner or a beginner you don't have or need to sell your Bitcoin but for someone who have hold for years and has a good amount can sell but not up to 10-30% of there investment because our portfolio will not look nice and one funny thing about Bitcoin investment is that selling can be so easy but buying back an holding can be very hard that is why we shouldn't sell a high percentage of our investment.

Buying bitcoin is easy as just selling it , but buying back after selling ( when trying to act smart) is not certain because how sure are you bitcoin is going to dip the price you want before buying because no one have the ability to control bitcoin price rather we can only speculate.

For those who are still accumulating bitcoin, if they sell some of their bitcoin in order to buy back cheaper, they run the risk of not being able to buy back cheaper, so they just end up spinning their wheels or maybe just getting stuck in a waiting pattern rather than ongoingly buying, so the lose their focus and ultimately have high chances of ending up with less bitcoin than what they could have had if they had stayed focused.

So better not to sell at all , so that you won’t find yourself in such situations and if you have any healthy treating issue you can use your reserves funds if it is not enough,and things getting worse , then you can think of taken from your investment in order to complete the payment because you got priorities your health also .

Of course, personally, I don't recommend investing into bitcoin unless a person has at least a 4-year timeline, so if someone has age and/or health concerns that might limit their ability to have a 4-year timeline, then maybe it would not be a good idea to invest into bitcoin, since there would be some gambling if they were to have less than a 4-year timeline.

Of course anyone who is investing into bitcoin should be attempting to have both emergency funds and reserve funds available to spend on any expenses that might go beyond their expectations, so surely if they have any emergencies, such as health issues, then they may well end up spending from their reserve funds first, and then their emergency funds second, and once they run out of those various back up funds, then they would have no choice but to sell from their bitcoin at that time. 

We are attempting to create good cashflow management practices and various backup funds in order to attempt to avoid selling our bitcoin except at a time that is completely of our own choosing, but sure, sometimes emergencies might happen, and if we had done our best to establish good cashflow management practices abnd back up funds, sometimes there might be things that happen such as loss of income and/or increases in expenses that are beyond our expectations.

Sure there are some folks who put themselves into emergency situations by failing/refusing to set themselves up with good cashflow management systems, so surely we want to avoid putting ourselves into emergency situations based on bad cashflow management, so we try our best under our own resources to prepare for a variety of scenarios, including some possible scenarios that are not completely known in advance.

Perhaps you should try to be specifying what you are saying ( category of investors that are not suppose to sell ) because investors who has gotten to there overaccumulation stage can sell if they wish to sell and nothing is wrong about that and even while they sell, they will always sell wisely that is a percentage that won't look like they even remove something from there portfolio so that covering up won't take them time but an investor with a small portfolio, selling will be a very bad decision or act to display because they have a long way to go.

Your statement might be misleading to those who have big portfolio that want to sell wisely. In as much as selling wisely should be considered, long term investors at times can make wrong decisions to sell when the market conditions are not in place. Technically i accept that timing the market is necessarily when we want to sell some fractions of our inestemnt. With a big size portofolio investors should understand that there must be a reason why you are selling if not there is no point selling yet when you can still keep it long more. The reasons should be solid, if the inteiton is to sell in order to hold FIAT it is not a wise move although we can do whatever we like as long as we have a big size portfolio and nothing could go wrong after all.

Of course, the more bitcoin that we have, and the larger our bitcoin portfolio, then the more options that we have.

Sometimes guys will end up delaying their own ability to reach fuck you status or perhaps they will never make it to fuck you status if they continuously are dipping into their bitcoin holdings prematurely, yet sure, guys can choose whatever they like in terms of managing their cashflows and using their bitcoin to cover variious expenses, even if they are in their bitcoin accumulation stages...

It can be a slippery slope to keep dipping into bitcoin holdings, so we should be careful when we are dipping into our bitcoin holdings.

Another thing is that sometimes we might try to employ both systems of ongoingly buying and then maybe sell certain portions of our bitcoin at certain points in time, and so it could be that we end up selling out of one hand and buying out of the other, yet of course, we can try to calculate to see if there might be times where we might want to attempt to employ those kinds of selling at certain price points even though we might still be continuing to buy on a regular, persistent and ongoing basis too.

[Sonia_123]

You sound lost Bravut.  Of course withdrawing bitcoin is the same as selling, so if guys are taking too much profits too soon, then they surely could end up screwing up their bitcoin portfolio building and never making any progress in regards to really getting their BTC holdings up to a high enough level to really profit from being in t bitcoin.

I agree with you JJG, selling too much Bitcoin when one haven't gotten a good number or fraction of Bitcoin in there portfolio is not good because sometimes after selling you won't see the need to invest again or sometimes you won't see the opportunity you were hoping that made you sell your Bitcoin, selling is not actually bad per say but as a low coiner or a beginner you don't have or need to sell your Bitcoin but for someone who have hold for years and has a good amount can sell but not up to 10-30% of there investment because our portfolio will not look nice and one funny thing about Bitcoin investment is that selling can be so easy but buying back an holding can be very hard that is why we shouldn't sell a high percentage of our investment.

investors should also understand the concept of buying back into the market, just as you have said can also be emotionally challenging, especially if the price of the market has increased significantly, and this has caused many investors who have found they're self in this problem, some investors are regretting selling to early and not holding onto their bitcoin long enough.

Those are short term investors not a long-term investors, a long-term investor will not sell his investment at any given time, and if he has to sell his investment due to health issues that is after using his reserve fund am sure he will be willing to start all over again because health they say is wealth.

But for those that don't have any health issues and sold their investment because of the price increase in the market are not good investors but traders, because no matter how he struggles to get the money to come back into Bitcoin investment, will still sell off their investment again when the price goes up again, these set of persons are known as perpetual traders that are always looking for opportunities to sell.

[Joy- maker]

For those who are still accumulating bitcoin, if they sell some of their bitcoin in order to buy back cheaper, they run the risk of not being able to buy back cheaper, so they just end up spinning their wheels or maybe just getting stuck in a waiting pattern rather than ongoingly buying, so the lose their focus and ultimately have high chances of ending up with less bitcoin than what they could have had if they had stayed focused.

exactly JJG I agree with you on one, especially those who are still in their accumulating stage which their bitcoin investment is not up to 4 years, if they sell their bitcoin with the mindset of buying back cheap it we be very difficult for them to get back on track or they might still end up buying back at a higher price, because bitcoin may not dip to the exact price they expecting to buy back, yes we know bitcoin is volatile, but people shouldn't expect bitcoin to dip to an extend of buying back cheap when you sell at a certain price.

[iamsange]

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exactly JJG I agree with you on one, especially those who are still in their accumulating stage which their bitcoin investment is not up to 4 years, if they sell their bitcoin with the mindset of buying back cheap it we be very difficult for them to get back on track or they might still end up buying back at a higher price, because bitcoin may not dip to the exact price they expecting to buy back, yes we know bitcoin is volatile, but people shouldn't expect bitcoin to dip to an extend of buying back cheap when you sell at a certain price.

It's not really a matter of not being up to four years or more when someone starts considering Bitcoin for investment by themselves, but most people may not be able to be patient for four years even though there are many who have realized the four-year cycle in Bitcoin like what happened in 2017 when there was an increase and then the following year it immediately went down again. Likewise in 2021, the increase was much greater but in the following year it also experienced a prolonged correction until early 2023, although the price of Bitcoin in early 2023 was not much different from the highest price in 2017 when there was an increase in price at that time.

And now everything is different so that we all don't have to wait for the price of Bitcoin to go back down if we want to make long-term investments from now on because the work of investors tends to buy more often than sell often in terms of any asset including Bitcoin. So investors must know the function and path of work they are taking so that they are not confused in making decisions because investors and traders are very different so that their decisions and plans will never be the same in any way.

[Churchillvv]

Those are short term investors not a long-term investors, a long-term investor will not sell his investment at any given time, and if he has to sell his investment due to health issues that is after using his reserve fund am sure he will be willing to start all over again because health they say is wealth.

But for those that don't have any health issues and sold their investment because of the price increase in the market are not good investors but traders, because no matter how he struggles to get the money to come back into Bitcoin investment, will still sell off their investment again when the price goes up again, these set of persons are known as perpetual traders that are always looking for opportunities to sell.

Perhaps you might have a misinterpretation of people's action, some guys who are selling or sold around $100k are not traders perhaps you might think all that because you're still a newbie here.

Some guys acquired bitcoin or bought bitcoin when it was around a thousand $1000 - $10,000 having made so much profit sold at $100k is not an act of trading, some of this guys even use the sustainable withdrawal practice to withdraw their bitcoins yet having so much left.

If you know what bitcoin really is you will discover that if it's not exchanged, transactions taking place then it's not longer a currency that Satoshi created it for rather it's just now an investment too.

[Gost ms]

Those are short term investors not a long-term investors, a long-term investor will not sell his investment at any given time, and if he has to sell his investment due to health issues that is after using his reserve fund am sure he will be willing to start all over again because health they say is wealth.

But for those that don't have any health issues and sold their investment because of the price increase in the market are not good investors but traders, because no matter how he struggles to get the money to come back into Bitcoin investment, will still sell off their investment again when the price goes up again, these set of persons are known as perpetual traders that are always looking for opportunities to sell.

Perhaps you might have a misinterpretation of people's action, some guys who are selling or sold around $100k are not traders perhaps you might think all that because you're still a newbie here.

Some guys acquired bitcoin or bought bitcoin when it was around a thousand $1000 - $10,000 having made so much profit sold at $100k is not an act of trading, some of this guys even use the sustainable withdrawal practice to withdraw their bitcoins yet having so much left.

If you know what bitcoin really is you will discover that if it's not exchanged, transactions taking place then it's not longer a currency that Satoshi created it for rather it's just now an investment too.

There are many people who buy and sell their holdings when a small amount of leverage comes, are they investors or traders? They are definitely traders. Because investors will never express their desire to sell their holdings or sell them because of short-term greed. Investors will continuously buy BTC until they can accumulate enough BTC in their portfolio. And wait until their time limit ends.

If someone sells their holdings before the expiration of the term, even if they sell $100,000, I think they are not a real investor. It is not something that you will sell your holdings before the expiration of the term because you will make a lot of profit. If you have a certain amount of holdings, then you can take a profit by selling some BTC after 1 cycle or 2 cycles. This is completely my personal advice.

[JayJuanGee]

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exactly JJG I agree with you on one, especially those who are still in their accumulating stage which their bitcoin investment is not up to 4 years, if they sell their bitcoin with the mindset of buying back cheap it we be very difficult for them to get back on track or they might still end up buying back at a higher price, because bitcoin may not dip to the exact price they expecting to buy back, yes we know bitcoin is volatile, but people shouldn't expect bitcoin to dip to an extend of buying back cheap when you sell at a certain price.

It's not really a matter of not being up to four years or more when someone starts considering Bitcoin for investment by themselves, but most people may not be able to be patient for four years even though there are many who have realized the four-year cycle in Bitcoin like what happened in 2017 when there was an increase and then the following year it immediately went down again. Likewise in 2021, the increase was much greater but in the following year it also experienced a prolonged correction until early 2023, although the price of Bitcoin in early 2023 was not much different from the highest price in 2017 when there was an increase in price at that time.

And now everything is different so that we all don't have to wait for the price of Bitcoin to go back down if we want to make long-term investments from now on because the work of investors tends to buy more often than sell often in terms of any asset including Bitcoin. So investors must know the function and path of work they are taking so that they are not confused in making decisions because investors and traders are very different so that their decisions and plans will never be the same in any way.

If we go by your forum registration date, then you have the luxury of being involved in bitcoin for 9 years, so it is not like you have not had opportunities to accumulate enough bitcoin. 

I don't see how beginners to bitcoin get out of mostly trying to accumulate bitcoin for 4 years or more if they still hafe not had a whole cycle of accumulating bitcoin, unless they had been able to front load their bitcoin investment at some point in time.

So I hardly see any purpose to suggest to beginners to be worried about whether a correction may or may not end up happening this time around, and they likely should just be spending most of their efforts buying bitcoin regularly and persistently, at least for a whole cycle, unless if they might be able to front load their bitcoin investment.

[ZeroVinsonN]

Those are short term investors not a long-term investors, a long-term investor will not sell his investment at any given time, and if he has to sell his investment due to health issues that is after using his reserve fund am sure he will be willing to start all over again because health they say is wealth.

But for those that don't have any health issues and sold their investment because of the price increase in the market are not good investors but traders, because no matter how he struggles to get the money to come back into Bitcoin investment, will still sell off their investment again when the price goes up again, these set of persons are known as perpetual traders that are always looking for opportunities to sell.

Perhaps you might have a misinterpretation of people's action, some guys who are selling or sold around $100k are not traders perhaps you might think all that because you're still a newbie here.

Some guys acquired bitcoin or bought bitcoin when it was around a thousand $1000 - $10,000 having made so much profit sold at $100k is not an act of trading, some of this guys even use the sustainable withdrawal practice to withdraw their bitcoins yet having so much left.

If you know what bitcoin really is you will discover that if it's not exchanged, transactions taking place then it's not longer a currency that Satoshi created it for rather it's just now an investment too.

There are many people who buy and sell their holdings when a small amount of leverage comes, are they investors or traders? They are definitely traders. Because investors will never express their desire to sell their holdings or sell them because of short-term greed. Investors will continuously buy BTC until they can accumulate enough BTC in their portfolio. And wait until their time limit ends.

If someone sells their holdings before the expiration of the term, even if they sell $100,000, I think they are not a real investor. It is not something that you will sell your holdings before the expiration of the term because you will make a lot of profit. If you have a certain amount of holdings, then you can take a profit by selling some BTC after 1 cycle or 2 cycles. This is completely my personal advice.

Of course these people made good profit, but they aren't actual investors if they sold too early, but if they sold after at least one cycle and if selling at a time like this was their plan all along then they can't be called traders even if one cycle can sometimes be seen as short term by some people, it is still long term, just the really short end of long term, though I believe that if a person's initial holding plan was for 7 years and they sold their holdings 2 years short due to a pump in bitcoin price which would mean they sold at around 5 years of investing, then they can't be called real investors, this is because even though 5 years is more than 4 years which counts as one cycle, that sale can still be called trading since the person sold because of the profit that came at the time, even when selling at that time wasn't initially a part of his/her plan.

[Derekfunds]

So I hardly see any purpose to suggest to beginners to be worried about whether a correction may or may not end up happening this time around, and they likely should just be spending most of their efforts buying bitcoin regularly and persistently, at least for a whole cycle, unless if they might be able to front load their bitcoin investment.

JJG I think buying regularly and persistently using the most reliable and convenient approach is the best for any beginner in Bitcoin investment because it will help them not to run into trouble that is running out of finance and..., buying regularly will help them maintain and stay in the right track if they are determined but front loading is what a beginner should stay off from because if they don't have management skill it will result to a trouble too because if one don't have management skill, one can front load more than he or she is suppose to... That is why buying regularly using the DCA method is preferred for mostly beginners because they will have a particular amount they will be accumulating with unless there is a change in there source of income.

[Barikui1]

Those are short term investors not a long-term investors, a long-term investor will not sell his investment at any given time, and if he has to sell his investment due to health issues that is after using his reserve fund am sure he will be willing to start all over again because health they say is wealth.

But for those that don't have any health issues and sold their investment because of the price increase in the market are not good investors but traders, because no matter how he struggles to get the money to come back into Bitcoin investment, will still sell off their investment again when the price goes up again, these set of persons are known as perpetual traders that are always looking for opportunities to sell.

Perhaps you might have a misinterpretation of people's action, some guys who are selling or sold around $100k are not traders perhaps you might think all that because you're still a newbie here.

Some guys acquired bitcoin or bought bitcoin when it was around a thousand $1000 - $10,000 having made so much profit sold at $100k is not an act of trading, some of this guys even use the sustainable withdrawal practice to withdraw their bitcoins yet having so much left.

If you know what bitcoin really is you will discover that if it's not exchanged, transactions taking place then it's not longer a currency that Satoshi created it for rather it's just now an investment too.

There are many people who buy and sell their holdings when a small amount of leverage comes, are they investors or traders? They are definitely traders. Because investors will never express their desire to sell their holdings or sell them because of short-term greed. Investors will continuously buy BTC until they can accumulate enough BTC in their portfolio. And wait until their time limit ends.

If someone sells their holdings before the expiration of the term, even if they sell $100,000, I think they are not a real investor. It is not something that you will sell your holdings before the expiration of the term because you will make a lot of profit. If you have a certain amount of holdings, then you can take a profit by selling some BTC after 1 cycle or 2 cycles. This is completely my personal advice.

Of course these people made good profit, but they aren't actual investors if they sold too early, but if they sold after at least one cycle and if selling at a time like this was their plan all along then they can't be called traders even if one cycle can sometimes be seen as short term by some people, it is still long term, just the really short end of long term, though I believe that if a person's initial holding plan was for 7 years and they sold their holdings 2 years short due to a pump in bitcoin price which would mean they sold at around 5 years of investing, then they can't be called real investors, this is because even though 5 years is more than 4 years which counts as one cycle, that sale can still be called trading since the person sold because of the profit that came at the time, even when selling at that time wasn't initially a part of his/her plan.

When talking about long term generally, it might differs according to the individual involved, because we all look, but we see differently, so it mostly depends on how the individual in question sees things.
But buying and selling just for a circle can never be term as a long term investment because nothing great can be achieved by selling in such a very short period of time, actually in my own perspective I sees long term as holding for like three circles or more, anything less than that is not long term in my own opinion.
Those selling off their holdings just for a circle thinking that it's long term are just traders selling of for minimal gains, because hold for only four years wouldn't milk anything huge from your holdings, especially when you are a low coiner, and as a low coiner, you must accumulate Bitcoin at least for 10years for you to be able to accumulate something tangible, then after accumulation, then he might decide on how long he wish to hold before he start taking profit, not selling all at once because it would be to unwise to sell all at a spot.

[ZeroVinsonN]

Those are short term investors not a long-term investors, a long-term investor will not sell his investment at any given time, and if he has to sell his investment due to health issues that is after using his reserve fund am sure he will be willing to start all over again because health they say is wealth.

But for those that don't have any health issues and sold their investment because of the price increase in the market are not good investors but traders, because no matter how he struggles to get the money to come back into Bitcoin investment, will still sell off their investment again when the price goes up again, these set of persons are known as perpetual traders that are always looking for opportunities to sell.

Perhaps you might have a misinterpretation of people's action, some guys who are selling or sold around $100k are not traders perhaps you might think all that because you're still a newbie here.

Some guys acquired bitcoin or bought bitcoin when it was around a thousand $1000 - $10,000 having made so much profit sold at $100k is not an act of trading, some of this guys even use the sustainable withdrawal practice to withdraw their bitcoins yet having so much left.

If you know what bitcoin really is you will discover that if it's not exchanged, transactions taking place then it's not longer a currency that Satoshi created it for rather it's just now an investment too.

There are many people who buy and sell their holdings when a small amount of leverage comes, are they investors or traders? They are definitely traders. Because investors will never express their desire to sell their holdings or sell them because of short-term greed. Investors will continuously buy BTC until they can accumulate enough BTC in their portfolio. And wait until their time limit ends.

If someone sells their holdings before the expiration of the term, even if they sell $100,000, I think they are not a real investor. It is not something that you will sell your holdings before the expiration of the term because you will make a lot of profit. If you have a certain amount of holdings, then you can take a profit by selling some BTC after 1 cycle or 2 cycles. This is completely my personal advice.

Of course these people made good profit, but they aren't actual investors if they sold too early, but if they sold after at least one cycle and if selling at a time like this was their plan all along then they can't be called traders even if one cycle can sometimes be seen as short term by some people, it is still long term, just the really short end of long term, though I believe that if a person's initial holding plan was for 7 years and they sold their holdings 2 years short due to a pump in bitcoin price which would mean they sold at around 5 years of investing, then they can't be called real investors, this is because even though 5 years is more than 4 years which counts as one cycle, that sale can still be called trading since the person sold because of the profit that came at the time, even when selling at that time wasn't initially a part of his/her plan.

When talking about long term generally, it might differs according to the individual involved, because we all look, but we see differently, so it mostly depends on how the individual in question sees things.
But buying and selling just for a circle can never be term as a long term investment because nothing great can be achieved by selling in such a very short period of time, actually in my own perspective I sees long term as holding for like three circles or more, anything less than that is not long term in my own opinion.
Those selling off their holdings just for a circle thinking that it's long term are just traders selling of for minimal gains, because hold for only four years wouldn't milk anything huge from your holdings, especially when you are a low coiner, and as a low coiner, you must accumulate Bitcoin at least for 10years for you to be able to accumulate something tangible, then after accumulation, then he might decide on how long he wish to hold before he start taking profit, not selling all at once because it would be to unwise to sell all at a spot.

You aren't wrong, and I didn't say to sell after one cycle, I said that if a person sold after at least one cycle as long as it was their intended selling time, then they can be called investors, plus if an investor to sell after four years which is on the short side, the profit might be small but it's still profit, as is in this calculation I added to this post, investing with $100 weekly using the DCA over a period of 4 years yields around $18000 of profit, if an investor decided to sell around 30% of this profit then they will be getting around $5000 which is almost a year worth of their investment, while this isn't the best, it is also not bad profit.
Check out this DCA tool

[SuperBitMan]

So I hardly see any purpose to suggest to beginners to be worried about whether a correction may or may not end up happening this time around, and they likely should just be spending most of their efforts buying bitcoin regularly and persistently, at least for a whole cycle, unless if they might be able to front load their bitcoin investment.

JJG I think buying regularly and persistently using the most reliable and convenient approach is the best for any beginner in Bitcoin investment because it will help them not to run into trouble that is running out of finance and..., buying regularly will help them maintain and stay in the right track if they are determined but front loading is what a beginner should stay off from because if they don't have management skill it will result to a trouble too because if one don't have management skill, one can front load more than he or she is suppose to... That is why buying regularly using the DCA method is preferred for mostly beginners because they will have a particular amount they will be accumulating with unless there is a change in there source of income.

I don't see any problem that will come out from front loading your Bitcoin investment as a beginner, if you have the financial strength to front load your Bitcoin investment you can go for it, the kind of newbies that will get into financial trouble if the front load there Bitcoin investment are those who don't have the financial strength for it using money meant for paying of important bills for example electric bill, house rent, food, etc to front load your Bitcoin investment will surely lead you to dip hands into your Bitcoin.
Front loading your Bitcoin investment those not require you to have a special skill, when you talk about having a management skill before fronting loading yeah you are correct but not only on front load even if you are using the DCA strategy you still need to have a management skill.
Having a management skill is very important in every investment and Bitcoin investment is not excluded no matter the strategy you are using.

[Tmoonz]

So I hardly see any purpose to suggest to beginners to be worried about whether a correction may or may not end up happening this time around, and they likely should just be spending most of their efforts buying bitcoin regularly and persistently, at least for a whole cycle, unless if they might be able to front load their bitcoin investment.

JJG I think buying regularly and persistently using the most reliable and convenient approach is the best for any beginner in Bitcoin investment because it will help them not to run into trouble that is running out of finance and..., buying regularly will help them maintain and stay in the right track if they are determined but front loading is what a beginner should stay off from because if they don't have management skill it will result to a trouble too because if one don't have management skill, one can front load more than he or she is suppose to... That is why buying regularly using the DCA method is preferred for mostly beginners because they will have a particular amount they will be accumulating with unless there is a change in there source of income.

I believe that sir jayjuanGee was not referring to beginners with zero knowledge or experience of the market but a beginner that already has an ongoing Dcaing and maybe along the line decided to front load their investment. However, the eligibility of an investor to front load their investment only depends on their financial ability in alignment with their risk tolerance level, management skills and effective planning is one of the basic knowledge one needs in light of making an informed investment decision and not only when it comes to front loading.

[SmartCharpa]

For those who are still accumulating bitcoin, if they sell some of their bitcoin in order to buy back cheaper, they run the risk of not being able to buy back cheaper, so they just end up spinning their wheels or maybe just getting stuck in a waiting pattern rather than ongoingly buying, so the lose their focus and ultimately have high chances of ending up with less bitcoin than what they could have had if they had stayed focused.

exactly JJG I agree with you on one, especially those who are still in their accumulating stage which their bitcoin investment is not up to 4 years, if they sell their bitcoin with the mindset of buying back cheap it we be very difficult for them to get back on track or they might still end up buying back at a higher price, because bitcoin may not dip to the exact price they expecting to buy back, yes we know bitcoin is volatile, but people shouldn't expect bitcoin to dip to an extend of buying back cheap when you sell at a certain price.

That's it, Bitcoin is an unstable investment, and no one can predict when the price will fall. Selling a portion of our holdings in order to buy back a dip seems to be predicting that the Bitcoin price will fall more, and no one knows what will happen in the next hours. When we are not in an emergency condition where we have no other options for selling our investment, we should not sell our Bitcoin if we are making a long-term investment. We may sell now and the Bitcoin price continues to rise, so it is better to refuse to sell and continue buying high and selling higher in the future, bright days are on the way.

[Ruttoshi]

For those who are still accumulating bitcoin, if they sell some of their bitcoin in order to buy back cheaper, they run the risk of not being able to buy back cheaper, so they just end up spinning their wheels or maybe just getting stuck in a waiting pattern rather than ongoingly buying, so the lose their focus and ultimately have high chances of ending up with less bitcoin than what they could have had if they had stayed focused.

exactly JJG I agree with you on one, especially those who are still in their accumulating stage which their bitcoin investment is not up to 4 years, if they sell their bitcoin with the mindset of buying back cheap it we be very difficult for them to get back on track or they might still end up buying back at a higher price, because bitcoin may not dip to the exact price they expecting to buy back, yes we know bitcoin is volatile, but people shouldn't expect bitcoin to dip to an extend of buying back cheap when you sell at a certain price.

That's it, Bitcoin is an unstable investment, and no one can predict when the price will fall. Selling a portion of our holdings in order to buy back a dip seems to be predicting that the Bitcoin price will fall more, and no one knows what will happen in the next hours. [b{When we are not in an emergency condition where we have no other options for selling our investment,[/b] we should not sell our Bitcoin if we are making a long-term investment. We may sell now and the Bitcoin price continues to rise, so it is better to refuse to sell and continue buying high and selling higher in the future, bright days are on the way.

No kind of emergency should make you sell part of your bitcoin portfolio to take care of unforeseen emergencies. This is why as a bitcoin investor, you need to set up an emergency funds along side as you are building your bitcoin investment to take care of any unforeseen emergency that will occur during your accumulation period. Emergency funds is a backup funds to your bitcoin investment, and you should make it a priority, if you want to succeed in your bitcoin investment.

Selling part of your bitcoin investment shouldn't come up at all during your accumulation journey. Any investor that does not set up an emergency funds and is investing in bitcoin is only gambling because you must sell your bitcoin investment when it's not of your will due to unforeseen circumstances that you weren't prepared for. It's good to have your backup funds as a long-term bitcoin investor for smooth sailing. If you have plans of buying at the dip, you should set up a reserve funds for that.

[bitzizzix]

For those who are still accumulating bitcoin, if they sell some of their bitcoin in order to buy back cheaper, they run the risk of not being able to buy back cheaper, so they just end up spinning their wheels or maybe just getting stuck in a waiting pattern rather than ongoingly buying, so the lose their focus and ultimately have high chances of ending up with less bitcoin than what they could have had if they had stayed focused.

exactly JJG I agree with you on one, especially those who are still in their accumulating stage which their bitcoin investment is not up to 4 years, if they sell their bitcoin with the mindset of buying back cheap it we be very difficult for them to get back on track or they might still end up buying back at a higher price, because bitcoin may not dip to the exact price they expecting to buy back, yes we know bitcoin is volatile, but people shouldn't expect bitcoin to dip to an extend of buying back cheap when you sell at a certain price.

That's it, Bitcoin is an unstable investment, and no one can predict when the price will fall. Selling a portion of our holdings in order to buy back a dip seems to be predicting that the Bitcoin price will fall more, and no one knows what will happen in the next hours. When we are not in an emergency condition where we have no other options for selling our investment, we should not sell our Bitcoin if we are making a long-term investment. We may sell now and the Bitcoin price continues to rise, so it is better to refuse to sell and continue buying high and selling higher in the future, bright days are on the way.

Yes, inevitably many people make sales when conditions are good, especially beginners because they are inexperienced and just because they are happy when they have made a profit they immediately sell without any regret and also without thinking long.
And after that they are confused about buying it back because the price is not easy to predict and the decline does not come, they are forced to buy it back when the price is still in an upward position in an amount that is not as much as before and also only enjoy a little profit because of the mistake of being too hasty in making sales and finally regretting it.

And things like this will definitely always happen because over time more and more beginners come because they are tempted by the benefits of Bitcoin, and for those who have experienced it will be a valuable lesson until finally they know the best way to invest in Bitcoin in terms of profit and this thread can really help them, especially all the suggestions that JJG conveys are very useful for beginners that they must apply so that they can enjoy the results in a very beautiful future at least 5 or up to 10 years in the future to be able to enjoy much greater profits without any regrets at all.

[john_egbert]

For those who are still accumulating bitcoin, if they sell some of their bitcoin in order to buy back cheaper, they run the risk of not being able to buy back cheaper, so they just end up spinning their wheels or maybe just getting stuck in a waiting pattern rather than ongoingly buying, so the lose their focus and ultimately have high chances of ending up with less bitcoin than what they could have had if they had stayed focused.

exactly JJG I agree with you on one, especially those who are still in their accumulating stage which their bitcoin investment is not up to 4 years, if they sell their bitcoin with the mindset of buying back cheap it we be very difficult for them to get back on track or they might still end up buying back at a higher price, because bitcoin may not dip to the exact price they expecting to buy back, yes we know bitcoin is volatile, but people shouldn't expect bitcoin to dip to an extend of buying back cheap when you sell at a certain price.

That's it, Bitcoin is an unstable investment, and no one can predict when the price will fall. Selling a portion of our holdings in order to buy back a dip seems to be predicting that the Bitcoin price will fall more, and no one knows what will happen in the next hours. When we are not in an emergency condition where we have no other options for selling our investment, we should not sell our Bitcoin if we are making a long-term investment. We may sell now and the Bitcoin price continues to rise, so it is better to refuse to sell and continue buying high and selling higher in the future, bright days are on the way.

We don't need to search for the bottom.

We can just buy at the prices till the bottom would be reached, but we don't need to buy in lumps the price that is probably not the smallest one.