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July 22, 2025, 07:01:41 AM
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Yes, I totally agree with you agreessive investment should not be done often because there is every possibility that you will run out of funds and once an Investor run out of funds it is going to be a very big problem. The only thing that should be carry out or done regularly or often is our DCA method while agreessive investment should be done once in awhile when we have saved up something big that will help us take advantage of the market. Anyone investor who doesn't understand this word investing agreessive might exceed their limit and one thing about investment is that once you exceed what you are suppose to..., you will see the consequences but a good investor can reduce the consequences by taking necessary actions.
Since we are using discretionary income to accumulate bitcoin, there's no problem if an investor decides to invest aggressively in bitcoin all the time because he is using the money that is not meant for his expenses to invest in bitcoin, and he can use his discretionary income the way that pleases him. Investing aggressively in bitcoin has been discussed so many times on this thread and on the buy the dip and hodl thread, but it seems a lot of members are still misunderstanding the concept of investing aggressively in bitcoin. Investing aggressively in Bitcoin isn't only when you use $200 or $500 to accumulate Bitcoin; as far as you are consistent in accumulating Bitcoin weekly or monthly with $5, you are investing aggressively in Bitcoin because that is your level of aggressiveness, and you aren't also overdoing it.
Many people don't understand aggressive investing. They may think that pouring in more money means aggressive investing, which in reality is not the case. But the reality is that an investor can be aggressive by controlling his risk, that means, if he invests all his discretionary income, it is an aggressive investment, but it is not risky. As a result, the investor will be able to grow his Bitcoin portfolio. There are some investors who wait for the dip as a strategy. If they do not do that, but use their discretionary income money regularly over the long term, then he will be able to build a good portfolio. If the investor invests more than he can afford, it will certainly be acceptable ‍and he will definitely be able to acquire a large portfolio of Bitcoin in the future.
Investing aggressively in Bitcoin isn't that bad if you are doing it within your discretionary income, what's bad there is that some Investors tends to invest in Bitcoin aggressively and get carried away by start investing with money that is meant for their upkeeps, that is where it's wrong, if you are investing aggressively within the range of your discretionary income and your emergency and reserve funds are in place you have nothing to worry about because it's the right thing you are doing especially if you are still lagging behind in your accumulation journey, so in essence of what am trying to say is that accumulating Bitcoin aggressively is not a terrible idea if you are doing it the right way, where the problem are is when you are investing more than the discretionary income you have,  that's where the problem is.

 
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Since we are using discretionary income to accumulate bitcoin, there's no problem if an investor decides to invest aggressively in bitcoin all the time because he is using the money that is not meant for his expenses to invest in bitcoin, and he can use his discretionary income the way that pleases him. Investing aggressively in bitcoin has been discussed so many times on this thread and on the buy the dip and hodl thread, but it seems a lot of members are still misunderstanding the concept of investing aggressively in bitcoin. Investing aggressively in Bitcoin isn't only when you use $200 or $500 to accumulate Bitcoin; as far as you are consistent in accumulating Bitcoin weekly or monthly with $5, you are investing aggressively in Bitcoin because that is your level of aggressiveness, and you aren't also overdoing it.
Many people don't understand aggressive investing. They may think that pouring in more money means aggressive investing, which in reality is not the case. But the reality is that an investor can be aggressive by controlling his risk, that means, if he invests all his discretionary income, it is an aggressive investment, but it is not risky. As a result, the investor will be able to grow his Bitcoin portfolio. There are some investors who wait for the dip as a strategy. If they do not do that, but use their discretionary income money regularly over the long term, then he will be able to build a good portfolio. If the investor invests more than he can afford, it will certainly be acceptable ‍and he will definitely be able to acquire a large portfolio of Bitcoin in the future.
Investing aggressively in Bitcoin isn't that bad if you are doing it within your discretionary income, what's bad there is that some Investors tends to invest in Bitcoin aggressively and get carried away by start investing with money that is meant for their upkeeps, that is where it's wrong, if you are investing aggressively within the range of your discretionary income and your emergency and reserve funds are in place you have nothing to worry about because it's the right thing you are doing especially if you are still lagging behind in your accumulation journey, so in essence of what am trying to say is that accumulating Bitcoin aggressively is not a terrible idea if you are doing it the right way, where the problem are is when you are investing more than the discretionary income you have,  that's where the problem is.

At some point every investor would likely be aggressive in their accumulation but then some priorities have to be gotten right too, a low income earner shouldn't go all aggressive cause maybe their friends who introduced them into bitcoin investment is doing so, starting slow foe such folk is not a bad idea, Bitcoin investment should best be done according to one's income and how much they can spare from the discretionary into the investment.

 People shouldn't forget that asides Bitcoin investment there's still other important things to settle on a daily basis and feeding is one of them therefore every investor should set their investment priorities right and know when to go aggressively and when also when to accumulate slowly.

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July 22, 2025, 09:35:07 AM
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Many people don't understand aggressive investing. They may think that pouring in more money means aggressive investing, which in reality is not the case. But the reality is that an investor can be aggressive by controlling his risk, that means, if he invests all his discretionary income, it is an aggressive investment, but it is not risky. As a result, the investor will be able to grow his Bitcoin portfolio. There are some investors who wait for the dip as a strategy. If they do not do that, but use their discretionary income money regularly over the long term, then he will be able to build a good portfolio. If the investor invests more than he can afford, it will certainly be acceptable ‍and he will definitely be able to acquire a large portfolio of Bitcoin in the future.
Yea you can be aggressively investing with your discretionary income but it depends on the amount that's this discretionary income, imo I think being an aggressive bitcoin investor when you know you can't really do it, is of no use hence bitcoin investment can be done gradually, steadily and at the end a good fractions will be achieve in the future, using a discretionary income to invest in bitcoin is a good move that will be made by any investor but that doesn't mean that if you get some good amount of cash that you know very well that you won't be needing for anything for that moment that you are not allowed to invest with it, bitcoin investment is an opportunity as such any legitimate means that that you can invest in it, I think that will be fine, even though one needs to invest with huge amount aggressively is not bad as far as such is without making use of funds that can be to tackle emergency stuffs when they occur.

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July 22, 2025, 10:33:47 AM
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Since we are using discretionary income to accumulate bitcoin, there's no problem if an investor decides to invest aggressively in bitcoin all the time because he is using the money that is not meant for his expenses to invest in bitcoin, and he can use his discretionary income the way that pleases him. Investing aggressively in bitcoin has been discussed so many times on this thread and on the buy the dip and hodl thread, but it seems a lot of members are still misunderstanding the concept of investing aggressively in bitcoin. Investing aggressively in Bitcoin isn't only when you use $200 or $500 to accumulate Bitcoin; as far as you are consistent in accumulating Bitcoin weekly or monthly with $5, you are investing aggressively in Bitcoin because that is your level of aggressiveness, and you aren't also overdoing it.
Many people don't understand aggressive investing. They may think that pouring in more money means aggressive investing, which in reality is not the case. But the reality is that an investor can be aggressive by controlling his risk, that means, if he invests all his discretionary income, it is an aggressive investment, but it is not risky. As a result, the investor will be able to grow his Bitcoin portfolio. There are some investors who wait for the dip as a strategy. If they do not do that, but use their discretionary income money regularly over the long term, then he will be able to build a good portfolio. If the investor invests more than he can afford, it will certainly be acceptable ‍and he will definitely be able to acquire a large portfolio of Bitcoin in the future.
Investing aggressively in Bitcoin isn't that bad if you are doing it within your discretionary income, what's bad there is that some Investors tends to invest in Bitcoin aggressively and get carried away by start investing with money that is meant for their upkeeps, that is where it's wrong, if you are investing aggressively within the range of your discretionary income and your emergency and reserve funds are in place you have nothing to worry about because it's the right thing you are doing especially if you are still lagging behind in your accumulation journey, so in essence of what am trying to say is that accumulating Bitcoin aggressively is not a terrible idea if you are doing it the right way, where the problem are is when you are investing more than the discretionary income you have,  that's where the problem is.

At some point every investor would likely be aggressive in their accumulation but then some priorities have to be gotten right too, a low income earner shouldn't go all aggressive cause maybe their friends who introduced them into bitcoin investment is doing so, starting slow foe such folk is not a bad idea, Bitcoin investment should best be done according to one's income and how much they can spare from the discretionary into the investment.

 People shouldn't forget that asides Bitcoin investment there's still other important things to settle on a daily basis and feeding is one of them therefore every investor should set their investment priorities right and know when to go aggressively and when also when to accumulate slowly.
Princess Leah you are making sense, some people become aggressive in there Bitcoin accumulation because they think they are backward or because there friends are aggressive which is not right at all, before you think about becoming aggressive in your Bitcoin accumulation you must make sure you have a strong backup funds and again use only your Discretionary income to become aggressive make sure it those not go beyond your discretionary income.
When measuring about how aggressive one can go I don't think measuring it with the income you earn is proper reasoning being that, I can be earning $6k weekly or monthly but I have much responsibility and after my spending I'm only lift with $100 as my discretionary income and another person may be earning $4k weekly or monthly but because he has very little responsibility after spending he may be lift with $200 as his discretionary income so I think when measuring how aggressive one can go, we should look at how much discretionary income we have and also how strong our backup funds is.











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July 22, 2025, 10:39:16 AM
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..... nobody is in the position to tell anyone how much of his discretionary income that he should use to invest in bitcoin. ....

Many of us use the term aggressive for someone who chooses a high percentage of his discretionary income to invest in bitcoin and the term whimpy to describe someone who chooses a low percentage of his discretionary income to invest in bitcoin, and these should be considered as merely ways to emphasize one direction or another, even though in the end, each person needs to figure out his level of aggressiveness or his level of whimpiness.

Furthermore, there could be other funds that a person has at the time that they get into bitcoin that they might choose to allocate some of those funds into bitcoin, and they may choose whimpy levels or more aggressive levels, and surely they are personal choices  - even though I personally suggest that guys should invest into bitcoin as aggressively as they are able to do without over doing it.. yet in the end, they have to decide for themselves, even though I am making a bit of a value judgement suggestion that may or may not be agreeable to another person to have that same orientation.. so then in the end, each of us are ultimately responsible to make our choice regarding whether or not we get into bitcoin and the level of aggressiveness and then to live with the consequences of acting and/or failing to act.

By the way, I also acknowledge that so many folks, perhaps 99% of the world's population are no coiners and/or low coiners, so surely even folks who decide to get into bitcoin whimpily are likely going to be better off as compared with those folks who continue to decide to not get involved in bitcoin and/or not to look into bitcoin further  so that they can decide to whether to get into bitcoin based on an informed position rather than based on a likely lack of looking into bitcoin.  So, I remain of the perspective that something is better than nothing, even though at the same time, I think that everyone should attempt to accumulate bitcoin as aggressively as they can without over doing it and to continue with such behaviors until they reach enough or more than enough bitcoin (which again is a value judgement regarding how much bitcoin is enough or more than enough).
You respectfully highlight the value of taking action even at a smaller scale rather than doing nothing at all. Everyone's situation is different and your view that "something is better than nothing" is both practical and kind

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July 22, 2025, 11:09:28 AM
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Since we are using discretionary income to accumulate bitcoin, there's no problem if an investor decides to invest aggressively in bitcoin all the time because he is using the money that is not meant for his expenses to invest in bitcoin, and he can use his discretionary income the way that pleases him. Investing aggressively in bitcoin has been discussed so many times on this thread and on the buy the dip and hodl thread, but it seems a lot of members are still misunderstanding the concept of investing aggressively in bitcoin. Investing aggressively in Bitcoin isn't only when you use $200 or $500 to accumulate Bitcoin; as far as you are consistent in accumulating Bitcoin weekly or monthly with $5, you are investing aggressively in Bitcoin because that is your level of aggressiveness, and you aren't also overdoing it.
Many people don't understand aggressive investing. They may think that pouring in more money means aggressive investing, which in reality is not the case. But the reality is that an investor can be aggressive by controlling his risk, that means, if he invests all his discretionary income, it is an aggressive investment, but it is not risky. As a result, the investor will be able to grow his Bitcoin portfolio. There are some investors who wait for the dip as a strategy. If they do not do that, but use their discretionary income money regularly over the long term, then he will be able to build a good portfolio. If the investor invests more than he can afford, it will certainly be acceptable ‍and he will definitely be able to acquire a large portfolio of Bitcoin in the future.
Investing aggressively in Bitcoin isn't that bad if you are doing it within your discretionary income, what's bad there is that some Investors tends to invest in Bitcoin aggressively and get carried away by start investing with money that is meant for their upkeeps, that is where it's wrong, if you are investing aggressively within the range of your discretionary income and your emergency and reserve funds are in place you have nothing to worry about because it's the right thing you are doing especially if you are still lagging behind in your accumulation journey, so in essence of what am trying to say is that accumulating Bitcoin aggressively is not a terrible idea if you are doing it the right way, where the problem are is when you are investing more than the discretionary income you have,  that's where the problem is.

Not bad for the fact that you are doing it to acquire more volumes. Also your target for doing that is for long term and didn't have any plan to trade it for short term then everything you have done is falls within your discretionary income. Proper management is important doing this and people just confuse since they heard about being aggressive and some of them think that the people doing that is greedy while the fact is not especially when we are doing HODL with Bitcoin.

I will get worried if the person doing it is engaging with trading since they are the one who's prone to get broke especially if the market moves far from what they expect and they dump their coins out of panic.

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July 22, 2025, 12:31:01 PM
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Since we are using discretionary income to accumulate bitcoin, there's no problem if an investor decides to invest aggressively in bitcoin all the time because he is using the money that is not meant for his expenses to invest in bitcoin, and he can use his discretionary income the way that pleases him. Investing aggressively in bitcoin has been discussed so many times on this thread and on the buy the dip and hodl thread, but it seems a lot of members are still misunderstanding the concept of investing aggressively in bitcoin. Investing aggressively in Bitcoin isn't only when you use $200 or $500 to accumulate Bitcoin; as far as you are consistent in accumulating Bitcoin weekly or monthly with $5, you are investing aggressively in Bitcoin because that is your level of aggressiveness, and you aren't also overdoing it.
Many people don't understand aggressive investing. They may think that pouring in more money means aggressive investing, which in reality is not the case. But the reality is that an investor can be aggressive by controlling his risk, that means, if he invests all his discretionary income, it is an aggressive investment, but it is not risky. As a result, the investor will be able to grow his Bitcoin portfolio. There are some investors who wait for the dip as a strategy. If they do not do that, but use their discretionary income money regularly over the long term, then he will be able to build a good portfolio. If the investor invests more than he can afford, it will certainly be acceptable ‍and he will definitely be able to acquire a large portfolio of Bitcoin in the future.
Investing aggressively in Bitcoin isn't that bad if you are doing it within your discretionary income, what's bad there is that some Investors tends to invest in Bitcoin aggressively and get carried away by start investing with money that is meant for their upkeeps, that is where it's wrong, if you are investing aggressively within the range of your discretionary income and your emergency and reserve funds are in place you have nothing to worry about because it's the right thing you are doing especially if you are still lagging behind in your accumulation journey, so in essence of what am trying to say is that accumulating Bitcoin aggressively is not a terrible idea if you are doing it the right way, where the problem are is when you are investing more than the discretionary income you have,  that's where the problem is.

At some point every investor would likely be aggressive in their accumulation but then some priorities have to be gotten right too, a low income earner shouldn't go all aggressive cause maybe their friends who introduced them into bitcoin investment is doing so, starting slow foe such folk is not a bad idea, Bitcoin investment should best be done according to one's income and how much they can spare from the discretionary into the investment.

 People shouldn't forget that asides Bitcoin investment there's still other important things to settle on a daily basis and feeding is one of them therefore every investor should set their investment priorities right and know when to go aggressively and when also when to accumulate slowly.
A low income earner can also be aggressive in his own way, so long as they are doing it within their discretionary income then nothing is wrong, their friends that introduced them can be aggressive on a higher scale. It's not only those that are too buoyant that should go aggressive with their bitcoin Investments, the opportunity is bound for all, you just have to be strategic in your approach, but then this is not to say you should go starving while investing, be intentional about your strategy, figure out the duration to which you want to stay aggressive and stay true to it till your done. I also believe being aggressive with your investment is not a one-way ticket, you could always relax your aggression a little bit hence you're facing some hiccups pending when your done sorting yourself out.











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July 22, 2025, 12:56:55 PM
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I don't really know if there is an alternative to the DCA method for buying Bitcoin. But I think the DCA method is the best. There is no point in wasting time wondering when the price of Bitcoin will go down or up, when we have learned from various sources about the huge potential and future of Bitcoin. Now we can invest in Bitcoin with fearlessness, confidence, and full confidence. But of course, we have to buy Bitcoin with a long-term plan. The price can sometimes go down a lot, at that time we have to be patient. My plan to hold Bitcoin is for 10 years from now. Whatever the price, the real objective should be to continuously buy Bitcoin and make our portfolio heavy. There is no loss even if it comes from $1000 to $50, as long as we don't sell. The thought of selling Bitcoin can never come to mind. When buying Bitcoin, I will use the word buy instead of the word sell for 10 years.
In fact, if the Bitcoin price drops, the DCA amount we use should be higher. For long-term Bitcoin investors, a price drop isn't a problem it's actually a good opportunity to buy more Bitcoin. So, you don't need to fear a Bitcoin price drop. As long as we invest long-term, our journey to accumulating Bitcoin doesn't need to be fixated or confused by the price. Because Bitcoin is an investment asset with a very clear cycle, there's no reason to be afraid of investing in it. Even if we roughly describe it, even though Bitcoin's price fluctuations are like erratic pencil strokes, Bitcoin will ultimately continue to experience price increases with each cycle. So, with this in mind, we don't need to be afraid of price drops or anything else when investing in Bitcoin. Essentially, we should focus on conducting DCA regularly, remembering our goals, and being more active in seeking additional income, so that our discretionary income will increase.

And one more thing, never wait for a price drop to buy Bitcoin. Because if you do that, you might regret it. So, stick to investing in bitcoin with DCA.

On the contrary you are seemly talking about buying the dip because the DCA we talk about has nothing to do with the Bitcoin price drops but a buying of Bitcoin without talking the whether the price drops or not, and for anyone who will attempt to increase the amount they will use to buy Bitcoin simply because there is price drops must have taken that in to consideration by making a provision for a reserve funds which they can use to buy the dip but for those who didn't make such plans then buying with is available is the best thing to do in other not to get carried away away by the dip they are seeing and get in to trouble of using money not meant to be use for buying Bitcoin to avoid struggling to sort out their important needs.
Your assumption is valid, but here I'm simply saying that when we regularly DCA Bitcoin, there's no harm in making more aggressive purchases if, for example, the price drops slightly. I don't think there's any harm in doing so, as long as we have discretionary funds. I believe Bitcoin's price decline shouldn't be wasted, as the price will inevitably return to normal afterward. I believe that if we accidentally see Bitcoin's price drop, it's a golden opportunity that may be difficult to repeat. That's why I emphasize aggressive buying when that happens, even if we're regularly DCAing. However, I'm not forcing anyone to do this. I'm simply sharing my personal understanding and experience. And whether or not people follow my understanding isn't a problem for me. Basically, everyone has their own way of investing in Bitcoin, and I understand that.

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Yes, I totally agree with you agreessive investment should not be done often because there is every possibility that you will run out of funds and once an Investor run out of funds it is going to be a very big problem. The only thing that should be carry out or done regularly or often is our DCA method while agreessive investment should be done once in awhile when we have saved up something big that will help us take advantage of the market. Anyone investor who doesn't understand this word investing agreessive might exceed their limit and one thing about investment is that once you exceed what you are suppose to..., you will see the consequences but a good investor can reduce the consequences by taking necessary actions.
Since we are using discretionary income to accumulate bitcoin, there's no problem if an investor decides to invest aggressively in bitcoin all the time because he is using the money that is not meant for his expenses to invest in bitcoin, and he can use his discretionary income the way that pleases him. Investing aggressively in bitcoin has been discussed so many times on this thread and on the buy the dip and hodl thread, but it seems a lot of members are still misunderstanding the concept of investing aggressively in bitcoin. Investing aggressively in Bitcoin isn't only when you use $200 or $500 to accumulate Bitcoin; as far as you are consistent in accumulating Bitcoin weekly or monthly with $5, you are investing aggressively in Bitcoin because that is your level of aggressiveness, and you aren't also overdoing it.
Many people don't understand aggressive investing. They may think that pouring in more money means aggressive investing, which in reality is not the case. But the reality is that an investor can be aggressive by controlling his risk, that means, if he invests all his discretionary income, it is an aggressive investment, but it is not risky. As a result, the investor will be able to grow his Bitcoin portfolio. There are some investors who wait for the dip as a strategy. If they do not do that, but use their discretionary income money regularly over the long term, then he will be able to build a good portfolio. If the investor invests more than he can afford, it will certainly be acceptable ‍and he will definitely be able to acquire a large portfolio of Bitcoin in the future.
Investing aggressively in Bitcoin isn't that bad if you are doing it within your discretionary income, what's bad there is that some Investors tends to invest in Bitcoin aggressively and get carried away by start investing with money that is meant for their upkeeps, that is where it's wrong, if you are investing aggressively within the range of your discretionary income and your emergency and reserve funds are in place you have nothing to worry about because it's the right thing you are doing especially if you are still lagging behind in your accumulation journey, so in essence of what am trying to say is that accumulating Bitcoin aggressively is not a terrible idea if you are doing it the right way, where the problem are is when you are investing more than the discretionary income you have,  that's where the problem is.
 

I agree with you because if someone invests all of their discretionary income in Bitcoin regularly, then it can be called aggressive investment by definition, but according to the person who is actually investing , it may not be feel like him as  aggressiveness . People think that investing aggressively in Bitcoin is very risky, but the main theory here is that the investment is made from discretionary income.  If there is any income outside of those expenses of a person  then it is called discretionary income. Another thing to know is that if he saves some money in  every month as a savings ,reserve fund  and other. After this kind of spending money in every month, then the remaining part after deducting all these expenses is understood as a discretionary income . He can do whatever he wants with the money outside of this daily life spending money , and it won't be a problem for him to live on. 

If anyone invest 100% of his discretionary  income in bitcoin it wont be risky for him because this money  is separate from his daily expenses like savings , reserve fund and emergency fund also. But if he puts all of his total wealth into one specific business then it could be very dangerous for him  because he is investing  all of his income and assets in one place.
Now the question may arise what is the probability of profit or loss in Bitcoin? If you look at the statistics of the last 10 years, you will get a clear idea about this. if you are basically invest for a long time, regularly, that could be more than 10 years by using DCA method . it will be way better than any other investing.  The longer you invest, the more likely you are to make a profit. Now Bitcoin has reached a point where it is that the price of Bitcoin may not huge drop in the future. In my thinking bitcoin price will not be under $100,000 in future . Now is the time to think like this “I intend to invest in Bitcoin for the next 10 years using the DCM method. I should think about how much more times profit I will get compared to  total investing  after 10 years''.

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July 22, 2025, 02:37:36 PM
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Yes, I totally agree with you agreessive investment should not be done often because there is every possibility that you will run out of funds and once an Investor run out of funds it is going to be a very big problem. The only thing that should be carry out or done regularly or often is our DCA method while agreessive investment should be done once in awhile when we have saved up something big that will help us take advantage of the market. Anyone investor who doesn't understand this word investing agreessive might exceed their limit and one thing about investment is that once you exceed what you are suppose to..., you will see the consequences but a good investor can reduce the consequences by taking necessary actions.
Since we are using discretionary income to accumulate bitcoin, there's no problem if an investor decides to invest aggressively in bitcoin all the time because he is using the money that is not meant for his expenses to invest in bitcoin, and he can use his discretionary income the way that pleases him. Investing aggressively in bitcoin has been discussed so many times on this thread and on the buy the dip and hodl thread, but it seems a lot of members are still misunderstanding the concept of investing aggressively in bitcoin. Investing aggressively in Bitcoin isn't only when you use $200 or $500 to accumulate Bitcoin; as far as you are consistent in accumulating Bitcoin weekly or monthly with $5, you are investing aggressively in Bitcoin because that is your level of aggressiveness, and you aren't also overdoing it.
Many people don't understand aggressive investing. They may think that pouring in more money means aggressive investing, which in reality is not the case. But the reality is that an investor can be aggressive by controlling his risk, that means, if he invests all his discretionary income, it is an aggressive investment, but it is not risky. As a result, the investor will be able to grow his Bitcoin portfolio. There are some investors who wait for the dip as a strategy. If they do not do that, but use their discretionary income money regularly over the long term, then he will be able to build a good portfolio. If the investor invests more than he can afford, it will certainly be acceptable ‍and he will definitely be able to acquire a large portfolio of Bitcoin in the future.
Investing aggressively in Bitcoin isn't that bad if you are doing it within your discretionary income, what's bad there is that some Investors tends to invest in Bitcoin aggressively and get carried away by start investing with money that is meant for their upkeeps, that is where it's wrong, if you are investing aggressively within the range of your discretionary income and your emergency and reserve funds are in place you have nothing to worry about because it's the right thing you are doing especially if you are still lagging behind in your accumulation journey, so in essence of what am trying to say is that accumulating Bitcoin aggressively is not a terrible idea if you are doing it the right way, where the problem are is when you are investing more than the discretionary income you have,  that's where the problem is.
 

I agree with you because if someone invests all of their discretionary income in Bitcoin regularly, then it can be called aggressive investment by definition, but according to the person who is actually investing , it may not be feel like him as  aggressiveness . People think that investing aggressively in Bitcoin is very risky, but the main theory here is that the investment is made from discretionary income.  If there is any income outside of those expenses of a person  then it is called discretionary income. Another thing to know is that if he saves some money in  every month as a savings ,reserve fund  and other. After this kind of spending money in every month, then the remaining part after deducting all these expenses is understood as a discretionary income . He can do whatever he wants with the money outside of this daily life spending money , and it won't be a problem for him to live on. 

If anyone invest 100% of his discretionary  income in bitcoin it wont be risky for him because this money  is separate from his daily expenses like savings , reserve fund and emergency fund also. But if he puts all of his total wealth into one specific business then it could be very dangerous for him  because he is investing  all of his income and assets in one place.
Now the question may arise what is the probability of profit or loss in Bitcoin? If you look at the statistics of the last 10 years, you will get a clear idea about this. if you are basically invest for a long time, regularly, that could be more than 10 years by using DCA method . it will be way better than any other investing.  The longer you invest, the more likely you are to make a profit. Now Bitcoin has reached a point where it is that the price of Bitcoin may not huge drop in the future. In my thinking bitcoin price will not be under $100,000 in future . Now is the time to think like this “I intend to invest in Bitcoin for the next 10 years using the DCM method. I should think about how much more times profit I will get compared to  total investing  after 10 years''.

You are actually right, when you are confuse aggressively investing with reckless behavior, but when it’s done when using only discretionary income money that’s truly “extra” after all essentials,  savings, and reserves then the risk is rightly much more controlled than it looks
Using the DCA strategy for long-term Bitcoin invest,         
it  makes a lot of sense too. History stipulated that time in the market often beats timing the market, especially with assets like Bitcoin. As long as the fundamentals stay strong and someone’s not risking money they can’t afford to lose, the long game could be really profitable
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Yes, I totally agree with you agreessive investment should not be done often because there is every possibility that you will run out of funds and once an Investor run out of funds it is going to be a very big problem. The only thing that should be carry out or done regularly or often is our DCA method while agreessive investment should be done once in awhile when we have saved up something big that will help us take advantage of the market. Anyone investor who doesn't understand this word investing agreessive might exceed their limit and one thing about investment is that once you exceed what you are suppose to..., you will see the consequences but a good investor can reduce the consequences by taking necessary actions.
Since we are using discretionary income to accumulate bitcoin, there's no problem if an investor decides to invest aggressively in bitcoin all the time because he is using the money that is not meant for his expenses to invest in bitcoin, and he can use his discretionary income the way that pleases him. Investing aggressively in bitcoin has been discussed so many times on this thread and on the buy the dip and hodl thread, but it seems a lot of members are still misunderstanding the concept of investing aggressively in bitcoin. Investing aggressively in Bitcoin isn't only when you use $200 or $500 to accumulate Bitcoin; as far as you are consistent in accumulating Bitcoin weekly or monthly with $5, you are investing aggressively in Bitcoin because that is your level of aggressiveness, and you aren't also overdoing it.
If the investor invests more than he can afford, it will certainly be acceptable ‍and he will definitely be able to acquire a large portfolio of Bitcoin in the future.
If an investor invests with more than the amount of money he can afford, he is only gambling and not investing. Who told you that such person will be able to acquire a large bitcoin portfolio in future. Rather, that investor is going to sell his bitcoin portfolio before time when he needs arise, because he has invested more than his discretionary income. The worse part of it, is if bitcoin price dips below your exit point, you will run at loss. A bitcoin investor should only invest with part of his discretionary income to buy bitcoin so that he continues to accumulate week/monthly whenever his discretionary income is available for 4-10 years and above without selling till his desired time.

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Yes, I totally agree with you agreessive investment should not be done often because there is every possibility that you will run out of funds and once an Investor run out of funds it is going to be a very big problem. The only thing that should be carry out or done regularly or often is our DCA method while agreessive investment should be done once in awhile when we have saved up something big that will help us take advantage of the market. Anyone investor who doesn't understand this word investing agreessive might exceed their limit and one thing about investment is that once you exceed what you are suppose to..., you will see the consequences but a good investor can reduce the consequences by taking necessary actions.
Since we are using discretionary income to accumulate bitcoin, there's no problem if an investor decides to invest aggressively in bitcoin all the time because he is using the money that is not meant for his expenses to invest in bitcoin, and he can use his discretionary income the way that pleases him. Investing aggressively in bitcoin has been discussed so many times on this thread and on the buy the dip and hodl thread, but it seems a lot of members are still misunderstanding the concept of investing aggressively in bitcoin. Investing aggressively in Bitcoin isn't only when you use $200 or $500 to accumulate Bitcoin; as far as you are consistent in accumulating Bitcoin weekly or monthly with $5, you are investing aggressively in Bitcoin because that is your level of aggressiveness, and you aren't also overdoing it.
Many people don't understand aggressive investing. They may think that pouring in more money means aggressive investing, which in reality is not the case. But the reality is that an investor can be aggressive by controlling his risk, that means, if he invests all his discretionary income, it is an aggressive investment, but it is not risky. As a result, the investor will be able to grow his Bitcoin portfolio. There are some investors who wait for the dip as a strategy. If they do not do that, but use their discretionary income money regularly over the long term, then he will be able to build a good portfolio. If the investor invests more than he can afford, it will certainly be acceptable ‍and he will definitely be able to acquire a large portfolio of Bitcoin in the future.
I think you are wrong here when an investor invests with more than he can afford to loss what he is doing is gambling because this will make him sell his bitcoin too soon because he was investing with the wrong method, bitcoin investment should should come from our discretionary income which is also what we can afford to loss. Buying with more than what we can afford to loss is over aggressiveness since you are investing outside your discretionary income thinking this will make you acquire a large bitcoin portfolio believe such investor will sell too soon when are not supposed to sell because they uses the wrong method in buying bitcoin.

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If an investor invests with more than the amount of money he can afford, he is only gambling and not investing. Who told you that such person will be able to acquire a large bitcoin portfolio in future. Rather, that investor is going to sell his bitcoin portfolio before time when he needs arise, because he has invested more than his discretionary income. The worse part of it, is if bitcoin price dips below your exit point, you will run at loss. A bitcoin investor should only invest with part of his discretionary income to buy bitcoin so that he continues to accumulate week/monthly whenever his discretionary income is available for 4-10 years and above without selling till his desired time.
You seem a little too sure about the future. What you said may be right, or it may be wrong. Investing more than you can afford is a wrong move and as a result you may face financial problems in the middle and be forced to sell the investment. However, it is not certain that such a move will force you to sell the investment. I am not proving you wrong, but I am requesting a possible statement about the future. Because as you say, it may not be like that in reality.

Investing more than your ability can never be a good move. You may be moving towards the goal faster, but there may be a doubt whether the goal will be achieved or not. Because Bitcoin investment is long-term. You have to remember that you will not be able to use what you are investing for 4-10 years. Using it means that you are breaking the investment and all your previous troubles with the investment are in vain. So invest within your ability and take the right steps for financial crisis. Financial management is important for investment.

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July 22, 2025, 05:10:48 PM
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You seem a little too sure about the future. What you said may be right, or it may be wrong. Investing more than you can afford is a wrong move and as a result you may face financial problems in the middle and be forced to sell the investment. However, it is not certain that such a move will force you to sell the investment. I am not proving you wrong, but I am requesting a possible statement about the future. Because as you say, it may not be like that in reality.

Investing more than your ability can never be a good move. You may be moving towards the goal faster, but there may be a doubt whether the goal will be achieved or not. Because Bitcoin investment is long-term. You have to remember that you will not be able to use what you are investing for 4-10 years. Using it means that you are breaking the investment and all your previous troubles with the investment are in vain. So invest within your ability and take the right steps for financial crisis. Financial management is important for investment.


This is very good words. Nothing is possible without financial management. Your income source and how much income. How much is your monthly expense? How much do you have in your emergency fund for that time in case you suddenly get sick. After all this, you will think about investing. If your expenses are more than your income, you will be forced to sell your investments or borrow or take loans from somewhere, which will put you in more debt. If you borrow, you will have to pay interest, and of course, if you invest in Bitcoin, you will have to invest long-term. If you expect to get profit by investing, you will not succeed. Think about Bitcoin 10 years ago and think about now. This is what I think will increase everyone's interest in buying Bitcoin.
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If the investor invests more than he can afford, it will certainly be acceptable ‍and he will definitely be able to acquire a large portfolio of Bitcoin in the future.
In what sense did you use the word capability here? I understand that not having the ability to invest means 'I have no money at the moment'. Since I have no money at that time, where will the capital for investment come from. So how will a person invest in Bitcoin beyond his ability?

And if you mean beyond his ability - investing beyond his discretionary income. Then where will he get the money to meet his basic needs?
People actually start saving when they have money left after meeting their basic needs.
You certainly don't want us to invest in Bitcoin without eating, without paying electricity bills, gas bills, or paying for our children's school fees.
People actually save so that they can live a good life later. But it is not at all reasonable to suffer more now in order to live a good life later.

Therefore, we need to create such a flow in our life journey that we can live well in the present and use the present time to live well in the future.

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This is very good words. Nothing is possible without financial management. Your income source and how much income. How much is your monthly expense? How much do you have in your emergency fund for that time in case you suddenly get sick. After all this, you will think about investing. If your expenses are more than your income, you will be forced to sell your investments or borrow or take loans from somewhere, which will put you in more debt. If you borrow, you will have to pay interest, and of course, if you invest in Bitcoin, you will have to invest long-term. If you expect to get profit by investing, you will not succeed. Think about Bitcoin 10 years ago and think about now. This is what I think will increase everyone's interest in buying Bitcoin.

At the beginning, I support the creation of Bitcoin purchases, because those who have invested in Bitcoin in this current season had an easy opportunity to buy Bitcoin throughout the season. You notice that the price of Bitcoin has been rising continuously for a year, if you have invested in Bitcoin from the beginning of the year to now, then you will definitely show more interest in Bitcoin successfully. Because if you do not have the mindset of buying Bitcoin, then you cannot think about the past in any way. Because those who were afraid to buy Bitcoin in the past still have the reflection of those people who are afraid to invest in Bitcoin in the present.
You should never think about ten years ago because at that time, risk could only bring success, but now those who are afraid to invest in the present are definitely equivalent to lazy people. If you continue to buy Bitcoin according to the DCA method regularly, you will definitely be able to increase your court case, if you have the digits of Bitcoin, then you are definitely the best investor in the present.

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You seem a little too sure about the future. What you said may be right, or it may be wrong. Investing more than you can afford is a wrong move and as a result you may face financial problems in the middle and be forced to sell the investment. However, it is not certain that such a move will force you to sell the investment. I am not proving you wrong, but I am requesting a possible statement about the future. Because as you say, it may not be like that in reality.

Investing more than your ability can never be a good move. You may be moving towards the goal faster, but there may be a doubt whether the goal will be achieved or not. Because Bitcoin investment is long-term. You have to remember that you will not be able to use what you are investing for 4-10 years. Using it means that you are breaking the investment and all your previous troubles with the investment are in vain. So invest within your ability and take the right steps for financial crisis. Financial management is important for investment.


This is very good words. Nothing is possible without financial management. Your income source and how much income. How much is your monthly expense? How much do you have in your emergency fund for that time in case you suddenly get sick. After all this, you will think about investing . If your expenses are more than your income, you will be forced to sell your investments or borrow or take loans from somewhere, which will put you in more debt. If you borrow, you will have to pay interest, and of course, if you invest in Bitcoin, you will have to invest long-term. If you expect to get profit by investing, you will not succeed. Think about Bitcoin 10 years ago and think about now. This is what I think will increase everyone's interest in buying Bitcoin.
Your discretionary income is the most important thing that you need to have in place before investing, because you might have an income without a discretionary income. Secondly, you don't need to have a big discretionary income before you can start your bitcoin investment, because you can start with any amount even as low as $10 or provided that it's your discretionary income.

There is no way that your expenses will be more than your income and you will still be able to invest into bitcoin, because you have not left as extra cash since you are unable to cater for your monthly expenses and basic needs. You can improve your income buy looking for a second means of income and cutting down your expenses.

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Yes, I totally agree with you agreessive investment should not be done often because there is every possibility that you will run out of funds and once an Investor run out of funds it is going to be a very big problem. The only thing that should be carry out or done regularly or often is our DCA method while agreessive investment should be done once in awhile when we have saved up something big that will help us take advantage of the market. Anyone investor who doesn't understand this word investing agreessive might exceed their limit and one thing about investment is that once you exceed what you are suppose to..., you will see the consequences but a good investor can reduce the consequences by taking necessary actions.
Since we are using discretionary income to accumulate bitcoin, there's no problem if an investor decides to invest aggressively in bitcoin all the time because he is using the money that is not meant for his expenses to invest in bitcoin, and he can use his discretionary income the way that pleases him. Investing aggressively in bitcoin has been discussed so many times on this thread and on the buy the dip and hodl thread, but it seems a lot of members are still misunderstanding the concept of investing aggressively in bitcoin. Investing aggressively in Bitcoin isn't only when you use $200 or $500 to accumulate Bitcoin; as far as you are consistent in accumulating Bitcoin weekly or monthly with $5, you are investing aggressively in Bitcoin because that is your level of aggressiveness, and you aren't also overdoing it.
Many people don't understand aggressive investing. They may think that pouring in more money means aggressive investing, which in reality is not the case. But the reality is that an investor can be aggressive by controlling his risk, that means, if he invests all his discretionary income, it is an aggressive investment, but it is not risky. As a result, the investor will be able to grow his Bitcoin portfolio. There are some investors who wait for the dip as a strategy. If they do not do that, but use their discretionary income money regularly over the long term, then he will be able to build a good portfolio. If the investor invests more than he can afford, it will certainly be acceptable ‍and he will definitely be able to acquire a large portfolio of Bitcoin in the future.
I think you are wrong here when an investor invests with more than he can afford to loss what he is doing is gambling because this will make him sell his bitcoin too soon because he was investing with the wrong method, bitcoin investment should should come from our discretionary income which is also what we can afford to loss. Buying with more than what we can afford to loss is over aggressiveness since you are investing outside your discretionary income thinking this will make you acquire a large bitcoin portfolio believe such investor will sell too soon when are not supposed to sell because they uses the wrong method in buying bitcoin.

I agree with you, investing what one can not afford to let go is more like a trader thing and it is a wrong investment entirely because an investor should always ensure to invest what they can afford to let go and funny enough this what they can afford to let go doesn't mean it is a small amount of money rather it is a considerable amount that looks encouraging. Investing what you can not afford to let go already means planning to sell very early because when the market go against your wish and you are not financially buoyant you will have no option than to sell because you have used the money you would have use to take care of that need that arise.











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Since we are using discretionary income to accumulate bitcoin, there's no problem if an investor decides to invest aggressively in bitcoin all the time because he is using the money that is not meant for his expenses to invest in bitcoin, and he can use his discretionary income the way that pleases him. Investing aggressively in bitcoin has been discussed so many times on this thread and on the buy the dip and hodl thread, but it seems a lot of members are still misunderstanding the concept of investing aggressively in bitcoin. Investing aggressively in Bitcoin isn't only when you use $200 or $500 to accumulate Bitcoin; as far as you are consistent in accumulating Bitcoin weekly or monthly with $5, you are investing aggressively in Bitcoin because that is your level of aggressiveness, and you aren't also overdoing it.
Many people don't understand aggressive investing. They may think that pouring in more money means aggressive investing, which in reality is not the case. But the reality is that an investor can be aggressive by controlling his risk, that means, if he invests all his discretionary income, it is an aggressive investment, but it is not risky. As a result, the investor will be able to grow his Bitcoin portfolio. There are some investors who wait for the dip as a strategy. If they do not do that, but use their discretionary income money regularly over the long term, then he will be able to build a good portfolio. If the investor invests more than he can afford, it will certainly be acceptable ‍and he will definitely be able to acquire a large portfolio of Bitcoin in the future.
Investing aggressively in Bitcoin isn't that bad if you are doing it within your discretionary income, what's bad there is that some Investors tends to invest in Bitcoin aggressively and get carried away by start investing with money that is meant for their upkeeps, that is where it's wrong, if you are investing aggressively within the range of your discretionary income and your emergency and reserve funds are in place you have nothing to worry about because it's the right thing you are doing especially if you are still lagging behind in your accumulation journey, so in essence of what am trying to say is that accumulating Bitcoin aggressively is not a terrible idea if you are doing it the right way, where the problem are is when you are investing more than the discretionary income you have,  that's where the problem is.

At some point every investor would likely be aggressive in their accumulation but then some priorities have to be gotten right too, a low income earner shouldn't go all aggressive cause maybe their friends who introduced them into bitcoin investment is doing so, starting slow foe such folk is not a bad idea, Bitcoin investment should best be done according to one's income and how much they can spare from the discretionary into the investment.

 People shouldn't forget that asides Bitcoin investment there's still other important things to settle on a daily basis and feeding is one of them therefore every investor should set their investment priorities right and know when to go aggressively and when also when to accumulate slowly.
A low income earner can also be aggressive in his own way, so long as they are doing it within their discretionary income then nothing is wrong, their friends that introduced them can be aggressive on a higher scale. It's not only those that are too buoyant that should go aggressive with their bitcoin Investments, the opportunity is bound for all, you just have to be strategic in your approach, but then this is not to say you should go starving while investing, be intentional about your strategy, figure out the duration to which you want to stay aggressive and stay true to it till your done. I also believe being aggressive with your investment is not a one-way ticket, you could always relax your aggression a little bit hence you're facing some hiccups pending when your done sorting yourself out.
I agree with you, because a low income earner can also be aggressive in buying bitcoin just within his or her discretionary income. Less say a low income earner discretionary income is $100 for the week or for the month while his or her  friend discretionary income is $1000 for the week or for the month, both parties can still be aggressive in buying bitcoin just within their own discretionary. Now less say a low income earner is buying bitcoin with $50 and then allocate the rest of the fund to his or her emergency fund and backup fund, now with that $50 he or she is using in buying bitcoin he or she is being aggressive why because that is the investor level of aggressiveness. Now less say his friend or her friend who's discretionary is large now decide to be buying bitcoin with $600 the investor is also buying bitcoin aggressively and that is investor level of aggressiveness. So you see both parties are being aggressive in buying bitcoin but according to the level of their discretionary income.

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July 22, 2025, 06:02:23 PM
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You should never think about ten years ago because at that time, risk could only bring success,

This makes little sense.  10 years ago there were similar kinds of concerns as there are now, yet we can see after the fact that investing into bitcoin ended up paying off quite well including that the more aggressively anyone invested into bitcoin (without overdoing it) then the better the payoff. 

Personally, I think that similar kinds of underlying principles continue to exist in regards to the more aggressive anyone invest into bitcoin (without over doing it) the likely better will be the future payoffs, 4-10 years or longer down the road.

It is also likely the slope of the upward curve is not going to be as steep into the next 10 years as it had been in the past 10 years, yet these days, the downside risk of the next 10 years seems to be less extreme, too.  When governments and large financial institutions are jumping onboard, it becomes harder to reverse courses... .not impossible to reverse but there is a certain value in the Lindy Effects that are created with bitcoin being in existence longer and seeming to ongoingly becoming stronger and stronger and stronger.

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