Buy Buy Buy or Sell Sell Sell?

[Tonimez]

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Many of us can see how it can be so tempting to cash out during circumstances that we should probably just continue to buy.. and to make it through our first cycle or two of buying.. .. so then once we get through our buying period, we still might have another period of perhaps 4 years where we are not buying nor selling, and then at some point later down the road we might transition into selling some of our stash in a kind of streaming way. 

You're right sir. Anyone who sells his bitcoin in every market price provocation will certainly regret the next moment after seeing the price going up again and he can be seen as a panic seller. To be on a safe side, provided that you are still in active service and/or still has a sustainable source of wellbeing, it is better to make your first holding target period at 4 years. This will allow you most especially among the non regular buyers who either bought a lump-sum or a dip just to have a taste of bitcoin. Setting up a 4 years holding period would initially allow you make the best out of it and save you the stress of getting glued to the chart.  I know of some folks who's initial plan for bitcoin was just to own it, to have a story to tell about bitcoin and to feel among or above his folks just by owning bitcoin. If someone successfully holds for 4 years, he gets attached to the bitcoin and would want to hold further and if he had or hadn't been adding more bitcoin to his bitcoin stash, he would have seen more reasons to do so and he would be doing it convincingly.

The exact ways of dealing with our BTC holdings would depend on a variety of circumstances, including if a guy is continuing to work or maybe he is cutting back on his work or changing kinds of work and maybe anticipating transitioning into either living off his bitcoin or partially living off his bitcoin once enough time had passed that he is feeling good about his holdings and that he is not going to damage himself by starting to draw from his BTC holdings.

Yeah sure, years of Activeness contributes to individual ways of dealing with bitcoin in most cases even though others would not still invest in bitcoin no matter how long he still has in service. Some circumstances of cutting down on his work and/or transitioning to another work is a crucial decision making period whereby some folks who have low shock absorbance sometimes dip hands in their bitcoin in order to sustain the period until after the transition period and this is quite difficult to handle by low income Earners except with high discipline and cashflow management.

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So I guess people would get an idea about growth of Bitcoin each year since 2010 https://www.statmuse.com/money/ask/bitcoin-yearly-returns-2009-to-2025-chart

Those stats shows that Bitcoin became more great asset as many years pass by although there's a bear situation happen I guess that time would be a good time to accumulate more Bitcoin if there's situation like that happen.

Looking for quick gains is risky and unsustainable, we see lots of people fall down or got broke because they fall from scams. So better for people to avoid looking such quick rich scheme and better pay more attention on accumulating more Bitcoins.

The idea is correct including the ideas about how to deal with the years that the price seems negative rather than positive.  We are not going to know in advance if the year is going to be negative or positive, even though we have seemed to have 3 years up and 1 year down and then repeating the same pattern.. at least so far.   

Another thing is that of course from any chart there is a starting reference time that is selected, so in that above linked chart, it is going by the calendar years, which may or may not be a good measuring point for any particular individual to get synchronized with the calendar year versus his own start year.   It may be better to start in a year that the BTC price is either going down or it is largely flat versus when it is going up, and it is not clear if waiting is a good choice either.. especially for someone without coins and he is not going to really know where he is at in terms of whether the bitcoin price is going to go up, down or sideways.
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I have also thought about how perfectly fixed the 4 year cycle has been sustaining and it's very incredibly right. Starting from it's launch in 2009 down to this period, every 4th year has always been a bump. If newbies to bitcoin investment understand this chart and accept the flexibility of bitcoin market, they would have no choice than trust the investment they have chosen. 2013, 2017,2021 and 2025 amounts to 4 bitcoin cycles and all has been proven sustainable. Bitcoin gains more popularity daily and it's acceptance keeps increasing everyday. If a person should be intentional about holding his bitcoin through many cycles, he would also have the opportunity to witness an exponential increase in price and profit.

having a timeline in bitcoin that is 4 years or less is trading not investing.

This is apt and obvious. Some people deceive themselves to be investors just by holding bitcoin for 2 years or 3 years which they have been waiting for a favourable market condition to do away with their bitcoin stash. Holding bitcoin through on cycle of 4 years is not enough to call a person a Bitcoin investor. Let's see a scenario of the real estate investors; they mostly acquire lands in a remote place with a higher potential of seeing developing in at least 10 years time. This they acquire and abandon patiently with their initial holding (abandoning) time of 10 years during which they won't build on the land. After this period, the remote place is becoming more developed, the company either starts building projects on the land with a target of another 5 years or more to get the whole structures raised which expecting further developments. This allows them meet opportunities in the least expected places just by trusting that development would occur in the area. Even though sometimes, our prediction is not always perfect and disappointment may set in when the hope is raised so much. This same principle could be helpful in bitcoin holding.

Having a time line of 4-10 years is presumptively short term investing.. as long as the reasons of getting out might be age or health.. otherwise we might consider 4-10 years as trading too, especially if the person gets in to bitcoin and then sells all of his bitcoin rather than having a longer term plan.

We can quibble about these terms.. yet it might not be important... guys can do what they want, but sometimes they think they are investing when they are really trading .. like long term trading rather than short term trading.

You're right your description, as a bitcoin investor who is still active in service, 4-10 years holding would be too short to call your self and investor. This brings back the idea of making bitcoin your retirement plan instead of gambling away your opportunities in 10 years time. Majority of the people coming into bitcoin investment now are young enough to hold bitcoin for the next 20 years which is a probable 5 cycles of bitcoin which is definitely going to be very bullish at last. This will allow you plan for your future, when neither government nor individuals care about you not paying you a dime. Bitcoin is not to be gambled if you understand what the future holds and shun panicking in every little dip or market corrections.

It is difficult to project exactly into the future, but if we look at the 200-WMA, we will see that it is around $51.7k right now, so a guy who invested into bitcoin at a steady rate over 4 years would have an average cost per BTC that is right around the same as the 200-WMA.  Of course the longer he is in, it is quite likely that the 200-WMA will continue to rise faster than his average cost per BTC.. .. and we can go back to some DCA calculators and verify that a guy who invested over the past 8 years would likely have an average cost per BTC that is below $14k.  So time investing helps, but also attempting to be somewhat aggressive in the earlier years of investing likely helps somewhat too.

This is very crucial for every beginner to seize every opportunity to buy bitcoin aggressively especially in the early days of investing in bitcoin. This would allow him but at prices where his cumulative price per bitcoin would still be more reduced. But this is not a perfect condition too as more bear market may also arise somewhere between the years even lower than the starting price. Seizing every opportunity and understanding that every bear market is a buy buy opportunity would help every investor to balance up the price per bitcoin and still allow for higher profits. Aggressive buys is a very necessary steps to achieving bitcoin accumulation with a lower price too but you must not overdo it at any point in order not to risk all your bitcoin stash.

[Mr_Brilliant$]

We are seeing Bitcoin’s price bottom at a level that would have been an all time high 2 months ago. That is bullish.

Bitcoin isn’t ready to top for this cycle yet, but it’s possible it has. I think it is still a market to buy though. The value is getting high to be taking on big new positions, but I don’t see any reason to stop DCA’ing.

The DCA method for me is the most subtle method to accumulate bitcoin no matter the price. If an individual decides to lump sum then is basically dependent on his level of income, but for the DCA method it’s not dependent on any category, both the high and low income earners seeking a long term strategy of continuous and consistently accumulation of bitcoin and hodl, are most certainly and likely dependent to go by this method to accumulate and hodl. The DCA allows you the most stability and consistency in the market which for me you don’t depend on the price of bitcoin before you accumulate. I don’t also see any reason stopping DCA.

Today's ATH will surely be dip sometime in the future

I do not know why this sounds so true and cool in my ears haha , but in reality it is actually 100% true.. Every ATH will surely be a dip sometime in the future, no matter how big the hype feels at that moment.. The market always has a way of proofing itself, and what looks like the very top today usually turns into a stepping stone later on.. It is just the natural way of Bitcoin price now...

The interesting part is how people react to it. Some get scared and think the dip is the end, while others understand it is simply part of the journey..  A dip after ATH does not mean failure, it is more like the Bitcoin catching its breath.. In fact, without those dips, how would you expect enough strength to push for new highs.?.  And is the people that sees this as an opportunity instead of a threat that usually ends up ahead..

For me now, TBH, I do not really celebrate some of these ATHs too much, because honestly they come and go like normal phases in Bitcoin.. The key prices I will be celebrating are when we are talking about serious price like $200k to $1m haha , that is the kind of level that will change the whole conversation around Bitcoin and even the financial sector at large. I have got my eyes on those prices lol, until then every other ATH in between just feels like checkpoints on a long road trip... i am not saying it is bad to acknowledge them, it is just how i see it.. In all my point is the dip is not the opposite of ATH, it is actually the partner that makes the next ATH possible...

[JayJuanGee]

Due to the high and low price, there is a higher chance of loss than profit in a short-term investment. Even if there is some people make  profit in short time investment but it is much less compared to long-term profit. In the bull run of 2013, the price of Bitcoin  was aprox $1100 and then it came down to $200. Those who sold in a short time lost money. But those who invested for more than 5 years at that time made many times more profit. A similar situation was seen during the bull run of 2017.

Usually if a guy started investing in bitcoin towards the top, he would have had ended up bring ing down his average cost per BTC a lot if he continued to buy for something like 5 years, or even if may be he bought for 3 years on a weekly basis with a combination of DCA and perhaps lump sum buying during times that he might come across extra money. He could also buy on dips, though it may not necessarily make much difference if he might be regularly buying... and just riding out the wave... so even a guy who came into bitcoin towards the top at $1,100, he may could have had an average cost per BTC around $400 to $600 by the time 2017 came.  Similar a guy who might have had started buying bitcoin around $19k in 2017 might have had still ended up with an average cost of BTC that is around $7k to $8k by the time he gets through 2020.

I suspect the less disposable income people have, the more they feel inclined "to time the market perfectly". Yes they should not do that because without a good portion of luck, nobody is going to time it perfectly. But it is this desire to see their holdings grow in dollar value more quickly.

You are correct that frequently poor people think that they have to be more strategic with their buys, and surely there are some poor people who are trading when they think they are investing, so they may not have enough discretionary income to be able to invest...

Yet, if they have discretionary income, as little as $10 per week that they are able to dedicate towards investing in bitcoin, they are likely better to invest that weekly rather than trying to save it up for a large dip that might not happen... so if they invest $10 per week for 10 years, then they would have $5,200 invested into bitcoin, and if  they did it for 20 years they would have $10,400 invested into bitcoin.. which could start to add up to some good size money, also partially depending on how bitcoin's price performs during that time.

Sure if you are a billionaire and you invest a sum of money and it goes up 30%, you still have reasons to celebrate your BTC position. I understand it is not quite the same for someone starting with $1000. But this is exactly where they should set themselves free this thought process. In a few years time, if they invest continuously and once simply decided to get started, 30% changes will begin to matter.

Sure.  We could have someone who is brand new to bitcoin, and they have $1k that they want to put into bitcoin, and maybe they have an income in which they are earning $600 per month and their expenses are around $400.  So they have $200 extra per month that they could invest (maybe $45-ish per week?).  They might also need to make sure that they have back up funds that are around $1,200, which is three months of their expenses, but they don't have to have the back up funds prior to getting started.  They can build up the back up funds and the bitcoin at the same time. 

So in regards to the $1k they should consider four places to put it 1) DCA, 2) lump sum and/or 3) buy dips. and 4) back up funds.  They are already going to buy $45 per week with their DCA so they could add to their weekly DCA.

or they could put $250 into each of the 4 categories, yet how much they put into their back up funds might depend on how much they already have as back up funds.  Many people will generally operate with 2-6 weeks of some kind of back up funds, so how much they already have is a fact to take into account.

After all the idea that "low" % increases for those with less money have no impact on their holdings eventually applies to any type of investment they choose to make. But if they are looking for an asset that has high potential to give them enormous compound effects over time, they would still make a very comprehnsible decision to get started with BTC as of today. Not everyone will need Amazon or Apple shares in their lives ever, but I would not rule out that everyone will one day need at least a little bit of BTC for whatever purpose. It is a whole different type of investment with a more complex investment hypothesis than any other asset class.

I doubt that we need to talk about inferior investments here.  The main concern should be figuring out how much bitcoin they are able to buy and to build that up during the years and likelihood of a 4-10 year or longer investment timeline.

They may consider if they are able to invest 5% or 25% of their income into bitcoin, and surely many folks might have difficulties investing 10%, but if they were able to invest 25%, then they could invest a whole years income into bitcoin in 4 years, yet surely it might not be a good idea to aim for that level of aggressiveness from the start, even though they might be able to work up to that level once they get used to buying bitcoin on a weekly basis and set up their systems for both their buying of bitcoin and their cashflow management systems  and back ups.

[yixichloro2xx]

We are seeing Bitcoin’s price bottom at a level that would have been an all time high 2 months ago. That is bullish.

Bitcoin isn’t ready to top for this cycle yet, but it’s possible it has. I think it is still a market to buy though. The value is getting high to be taking on big new positions, but I don’t see any reason to stop DCA’ing.

The DCA method for me is the most subtle method to accumulate bitcoin no matter the price. If an individual decides to lump sum then is basically dependent on his level of income, but for the DCA method it’s not dependent on any category, both the high and low income earners seeking a long term strategy of continuous and consistently accumulation of bitcoin and hodl, are most certainly and likely dependent to go by this method to accumulate and hodl. The DCA allows you the most stability and consistency in the market which for me you don’t depend on the price of bitcoin before you accumulate. I don’t also see any reason stopping DCA.

Today's ATH will surely be dip sometime in the future

I do not know why this sounds so true and cool in my ears haha , but in reality it is actually 100% true.. Every ATH will surely be a dip sometime in the future, no matter how big the hype feels at that moment.. The market always has a way of proofing itself, and what looks like the very top today usually turns into a stepping stone later on.. It is just the natural way of Bitcoin price now...

The interesting part is how people react to it. Some get scared and think the dip is the end, while others understand it is simply part of the journey..  A dip after ATH does not mean failure, it is more like the Bitcoin catching its breath.. In fact, without those dips, how would you expect enough strength to push for new highs.?.  And is the people that sees this as an opportunity instead of a threat that usually ends up ahead..

For me now, TBH, I do not really celebrate some of these ATHs too much, because honestly they come and go like normal phases in Bitcoin.. The key prices I will be celebrating are when we are talking about serious price like $200k to $1m haha , that is the kind of level that will change the whole conversation around Bitcoin and even the financial sector at large. I have got my eyes on those prices lol, until then every other ATH in between just feels like checkpoints on a long road trip... i am not saying it is bad to acknowledge them, it is just how i see it.. In all my point is the dip is not the opposite of ATH, it is actually the partner that makes the next ATH possible...

What I see is that ATH and dips are not just about price action, they are actually psychological checkpoints. Each ATH forces the market to bring in a new wave of believers, while each dip cleans out the weak hands who only came in for quick gains. That cycle of onboarding and cleansing is what keeps Bitcoin strong long term.

Another way to look at it is that dips after ATHs serve as price memory. Once Bitcoin has touched a certain level, even if it falls, that price gets written into history and becomes a reference point for future rallies. For example, when Bitcoin broke $20k in 2020 after rejecting it in 2017, that memory made it a strong support instead of just a random number. The same will happen with every new ATH going forward.

So instead of seeing ATH and dip as opposite ends, I see them as stages in Bitcoin’s process of building trust in the market. ATHs expand the imagination of what’s possible, and dips test conviction to filter who really understands the asset. That is the deeper game behind the numbers.

[Mr Reporter]

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The DCA method for me is the most subtle method to accumulate bitcoin no matter the price. If an individual decides to lump sum then is basically dependent on his level of income, but for the DCA method it’s not dependent on any category, both the high and low income earners seeking a long term strategy of continuous and consistently accumulation of bitcoin and hodl, are most certainly and likely dependent to go by this method to accumulate and hodl. The DCA allows you the most stability and consistency in the market which for me you don’t depend on the price of bitcoin before you accumulate. I don’t also see any reason stopping DCA.

As long as the method remains comfortable for you, it's fine to continue using it, especially if it's to continue accumulating Bitcoin until you have more Bitcoin in your personal wallet. I'm also quite comfortable with this method because it's not too difficult to maintain as long as I have a regular income that can be used to buy Bitcoin. This is especially true now that anyone still accumulating Bitcoin can earn a little more due to the price correction in the past two days. So you can continue to use this method if it doesn't make things difficult for you in any way because the most important thing is to feel comfortable when doing something without having to sacrifice anything else.

You're right sir, DCA strategy is the most convenient strategy used in accumulating bitcoin for the long term. When applying DCA you don't have to wait until you have a specific amount of cash before you can start buying bitcoin rather you can buy bitcoin for as low as 10$ weekly or monthly from your discretional income. This strategy can equally be used by both low coiner and No coiner in accumulating bitcoin respectively. Bitcoin investment has become a lot easier to invest and buy for the long term through DCAing so far an investor has a regular flow of income to be buying consistently.

The DCA can only be the most convenient method or strategy if you are doing it properly because if you are it won't be convenient for you because even as we speak now there are people that are struggling with the DCA method which is the best strategy because of lack of proper application of it and this lack of proper application, I realized it is sometimes caused by lack of discipline and lack of good management skill because if you are not disciplined and don't have a good management skill it becomes very difficult to utilize the DCA method even when they have a good source of income that they can get good discretionary from.

This is what most investors should have a mindset set of that lack of discipline approach and poor management skills can hinder the successful implementation of DCA even with a good source of income, And aslo DCA can be a convenient and effective strategy for investing  but it's success depends on proper application been used to approach it, and aslo by combining this two together it gives you good management skills and consistency, investor can potentially maximize the benefits of DCA and achieve their long term financial goals.

[Barikui1]

This is what most investors should have a mindset set of that lack of discipline approach and poor management skills can hinder the successful implementation of DCA even with a good source of income, And aslo DCA can be a convenient and effective strategy for investing  but it's success depends on proper application been used to approach it, and aslo by combining this two together it gives you good management skills and consistency, investor can potentially maximize the benefits of DCA and achieve their long term financial goals.

Well said bro, because I have come to understand that without a proper money management skills, it will be difficult to be consistent in your accumulation of Bitcoin through the dca strategy, and no matter how huge or bogus your income is, you will find it difficult to even sort out your discretionary income out of your huge monthly or weekly income, so having a good money management skills is very much important while investing through the dca accumulating strategy.

Finally, another thing that really needs to be there if success in your Bitcoin accumulation will be recorded is the will to do it, because I have come to understand that anyone that doesn't want to do it will always have a reason why it's not possible, but someone that has the will to go all the way will always find a way to make it happen, so having the will is very important.

[laspol65]

This is what most investors should have a mindset set of that lack of discipline approach and poor management skills can hinder the successful implementation of DCA even with a good source of income, And aslo DCA can be a convenient and effective strategy for investing  but it's success depends on proper application been used to approach it, and aslo by combining this two together it gives you good management skills and consistency, investor can potentially maximize the benefits of DCA and achieve their long term financial goals.

Well said bro, because I have come to understand that without a proper money management skills, it will be difficult to be consistent in your accumulation of Bitcoin through the dca strategy, and no matter how huge or bogus your income is, you will find it difficult to even sort out your discretionary income out of your huge monthly or weekly income, so having a good money management skills is very much important while investing through the dca accumulating strategy.

People who earn a small amount of income can save a lot of money by investing in Bitcoin by using skills and strategies. Because it is possible to save $ 30 a week from the money that was spent carelessly on going to the park, eating nuts with girlfriends, smoking, and all the money that was spent carelessly.
And if you can invest $ 50 a week, then if you invest (50 + 30) = $ 80 a week, then at the end of the year, it is possible to save (80 + 52) = $ 4160 a year in Bitcoin. Only by using skills and strategies can people make their future more financially bright.

Finally, another thing that really needs to be there if success in your Bitcoin accumulation will be recorded is the will to do it, because I have come to understand that anyone that doesn't want to do it will always have a reason why it's not possible, but someone that has the will to go all the way will always find a way to make it happen, so having the will is very important.

Bitcoin DCA method is easy to invest for those who can earn, because there is only a lack of skill. Because if a person increases his willpower, he will definitely be able to participate in all those activities and can achieve success by investing in Bitcoin. Because if he can invest in Bitcoin on a weekly basis with the part that is saved from the money he spends on his family, he will definitely be successful.
And if that person has bad habits, he will definitely be able to change them and if he can change them, he will be able to add the extra money that would have been spent from there to Bitcoin investment. Then Bitcoin investment will be able to save more money.

[Derekfunds]

We are seeing Bitcoin’s price bottom at a level that would have been an all time high 2 months ago. That is bullish.

Bitcoin isn’t ready to top for this cycle yet, but it’s possible it has. I think it is still a market to buy though. The value is getting high to be taking on big new positions, but I don’t see any reason to stop DCA’ing.

The DCA method for me is the most subtle method to accumulate bitcoin no matter the price. If an individual decides to lump sum then is basically dependent on his level of income, but for the DCA method it’s not dependent on any category, both the high and low income earners seeking a long term strategy of continuous and consistently accumulation of bitcoin and hodl, are most certainly and likely dependent to go by this method to accumulate and hodl. The DCA allows you the most stability and consistency in the market which for me you don’t depend on the price of bitcoin before you accumulate. I don’t also see any reason stopping DCA.

Today's ATH will surely be dip sometime in the future

I do not know why this sounds so true and cool in my ears haha , but in reality it is actually 100% true.. Every ATH will surely be a dip sometime in the future, no matter how big the hype feels at that moment.. The market always has a way of proofing itself, and what looks like the very top today usually turns into a stepping stone later on.. It is just the natural way of Bitcoin price now...

The interesting part is how people react to it. Some get scared and think the dip is the end, while others understand it is simply part of the journey..  A dip after ATH does not mean failure, it is more like the Bitcoin catching its breath.. In fact, without those dips, how would you expect enough strength to push for new highs.?.  And is the people that sees this as an opportunity instead of a threat that usually ends up ahead..

For me now, TBH, I do not really celebrate some of these ATHs too much, because honestly they come and go like normal phases in Bitcoin.. The key prices I will be celebrating are when we are talking about serious price like $200k to $1m haha , that is the kind of level that will change the whole conversation around Bitcoin and even the financial sector at large. I have got my eyes on those prices lol, until then every other ATH in between just feels like checkpoints on a long road trip... i am not saying it is bad to acknowledge them, it is just how i see it.. In all my point is the dip is not the opposite of ATH, it is actually the partner that makes the next ATH possible...

What I see is that ATH and dips are not just about price action, they are actually psychological checkpoints. Each ATH forces the market to bring in a new wave of believers, while each dip cleans out the weak hands who only came in for quick gains. That cycle of onboarding and cleansing is what keeps Bitcoin strong long term.

Another way to look at it is that dips after ATHs serve as price memory. Once Bitcoin has touched a certain level, even if it falls, that price gets written into history and becomes a reference point for future rallies. For example, when Bitcoin broke $20k in 2020 after rejecting it in 2017, that memory made it a strong support instead of just a random number. The same will happen with every new ATH going forward.

So instead of seeing ATH and dip as opposite ends, I see them as stages in Bitcoin’s process of building trust in the market. ATHs expand the imagination of what’s possible, and dips test conviction to filter who really understands the asset. That is the deeper game behind the numbers.

You are making some points though but that is not really the case in Bitcoin investment, we all know Bitcoin is a volatile asset which means that it has the tendency to rise and also the tendency to fall and this ability to rise and  fall doesn't have a limit ( that is a certain level it will rise to or drop in a given point). So if we know and understand this, there won't be need to be talking about conviction and trust because initially we already know all these but it will be wise for us to always stick to what we believe and the target we have.

[DubemIfedigbo001]

It may sound funny to you but I want to confess that up till this moment, I have not understood what I should do or how I should go about buying shares in Apple or Amazon. I don't know if it is because I have no interest in that since I consider Bitcoin to be enough for me. Whatever it may be, I still believe that Bitcoin is the easiest asset to invest in and the best asset to HODL.

You're not alone in this man, coming into Bitcoin made me appreciate being in custody of my assets and not needing anybody's approval to spend my money or move it around. I literally don't get interested when I see advertisements for other forms of digital investments or buying shares from companies that I don't understand what they're doing with my money. At least in Bitcoin, I know  clearly that the more quantities I accumulate, the more profitable I can get on the long run. I feel that very knowledge is satisfactory enough to keep accumulating and positioning myself for better profits in the future.

[Kaliandra]

We are seeing Bitcoin’s price bottom at a level that would have been an all time high 2 months ago. That is bullish.

Bitcoin isn’t ready to top for this cycle yet, but it’s possible it has. I think it is still a market to buy though. The value is getting high to be taking on big new positions, but I don’t see any reason to stop DCA’ing.

The DCA method for me is the most subtle method to accumulate bitcoin no matter the price. If an individual decides to lump sum then is basically dependent on his level of income, but for the DCA method it’s not dependent on any category, both the high and low income earners seeking a long term strategy of continuous and consistently accumulation of bitcoin and hodl, are most certainly and likely dependent to go by this method to accumulate and hodl. The DCA allows you the most stability and consistency in the market which for me you don’t depend on the price of bitcoin before you accumulate. I don’t also see any reason stopping DCA.

I also continue to use DCA because this method is very effective because we don't need to monitor the BTC price or determine whether it's a bearish or bullish season. Sometimes, waiting for a bearish season to arrive and then buying is just a waste of time. If we don't consider the timing of DCA, we'll certainly end up with a large amount of BTC because we'll inevitably encounter fluctuating BTC prices. However, if we wait, for example, to buy BTC during a bearish season, we'll certainly have less BTC compared to someone who buys BTC without waiting for a bearish or bullish season.

So, I certainly see no reason to stop DCA because DCA doesn't consider price or season. Of course, no one who uses DCA for BTC feels a loss as long as they hold it for the long term. This reminds me of a friend of mine who used DCA and is now making significant profits. Initially, he refused to do DCA, but now he truly feels the benefits.  

[virasog]

We are seeing Bitcoin’s price bottom at a level that would have been an all time high 2 months ago. That is bullish.

Bitcoin isn’t ready to top for this cycle yet, but it’s possible it has. I think it is still a market to buy though. The value is getting high to be taking on big new positions, but I don’t see any reason to stop DCA’ing.

The DCA method for me is the most subtle method to accumulate bitcoin no matter the price. If an individual decides to lump sum then is basically dependent on his level of income, but for the DCA method it’s not dependent on any category, both the high and low income earners seeking a long term strategy of continuous and consistently accumulation of bitcoin and hodl, are most certainly and likely dependent to go by this method to accumulate and hodl. The DCA allows you the most stability and consistency in the market which for me you don’t depend on the price of bitcoin before you accumulate. I don’t also see any reason stopping DCA.

I also continue to use DCA because this method is very effective because we don't need to monitor the BTC price or determine whether it's a bearish or bullish season. Sometimes, waiting for a bearish season to arrive and then buying is just a waste of time. If we don't consider the timing of DCA, we'll certainly end up with a large amount of BTC because we'll inevitably encounter fluctuating BTC prices. However, if we wait, for example, to buy BTC during a bearish season, we'll certainly have less BTC compared to someone who buys BTC without waiting for a bearish or bullish season.

So, I certainly see no reason to stop DCA because DCA doesn't consider price or season. Of course, no one who uses DCA for BTC feels a loss as long as they hold it for the long term. This reminds me of a friend of mine who used DCA and is now making significant profits. Initially, he refused to do DCA, but now he truly feels the benefits.  

Sometimes I feel that even while doing the DCA one should still look at the prices especially if we know that we are in bull market and the bitcoin prices are on the higher side.

If you ask me I will try to invest more during the bear season while as the price increases my DCA amount will start to lower. I think this is call smart DCA because in this case you will accumulate more  at lower prices and it will give you more returns.  

[Sim_card]

Sometimes I feel that even while doing the DCA one should still look at the prices especially if we know that we are in bull market and the bitcoin prices are on the higher side.

If you ask me I will try to invest more during the bear season while as the price increases my DCA amount will start to lower. I think this is call smart DCA because in this case you will accumulate more  at lower prices and it will give you more returns.  

I get your point mate, but as a low coiner who is in hos early stage of accumulation shouldn't bother about the market if it's in a bear or bull season. It's good to just continue buying bitcoin with your discretionary income without doing it in a whimpy way because it's the amount of bitcoin in your wallet that's yours and not the one that you are expecting to buy cheaper in the bear market.

You don't know when the bear market will come, therefore, keeping too much fiat isn't a good practice when you can throw it into bitcoin and save the value of your funds. Fiat depreciates overtime and the money that you are keeping can easily be used for something else when an ugly situation or problems arises.

One thing that you should understand is that in every circle bitcoin creates a new ATH, even if you buy the normal quantity of bitcoin that you are suppose to buy, your portfolio will still increase in dollars value in the next bull circle. Those who bought bitcoin at $65k in 2021 have are not regretting it because bitcoin price has gone far higher than that amount.

To focus on increasing our bitcoin portfolio as soon as possible should be more of our priority than looking for how to buy bitcoin cheaper and slowing down the pace of your accumulation journey. If I have the money to invest aggressively or front load my bitcoin investment during the bull run, I will do it because I am investing for the future and by then bitcoin price will be very high than this current price.

[yixichloro2xx]

We are seeing Bitcoin’s price bottom at a level that would have been an all time high 2 months ago. That is bullish.

Bitcoin isn’t ready to top for this cycle yet, but it’s possible it has. I think it is still a market to buy though. The value is getting high to be taking on big new positions, but I don’t see any reason to stop DCA’ing.

The DCA method for me is the most subtle method to accumulate bitcoin no matter the price. If an individual decides to lump sum then is basically dependent on his level of income, but for the DCA method it’s not dependent on any category, both the high and low income earners seeking a long term strategy of continuous and consistently accumulation of bitcoin and hodl, are most certainly and likely dependent to go by this method to accumulate and hodl. The DCA allows you the most stability and consistency in the market which for me you don’t depend on the price of bitcoin before you accumulate. I don’t also see any reason stopping DCA.

Today's ATH will surely be dip sometime in the future

I do not know why this sounds so true and cool in my ears haha , but in reality it is actually 100% true.. Every ATH will surely be a dip sometime in the future, no matter how big the hype feels at that moment.. The market always has a way of proofing itself, and what looks like the very top today usually turns into a stepping stone later on.. It is just the natural way of Bitcoin price now...

The interesting part is how people react to it. Some get scared and think the dip is the end, while others understand it is simply part of the journey..  A dip after ATH does not mean failure, it is more like the Bitcoin catching its breath.. In fact, without those dips, how would you expect enough strength to push for new highs.?.  And is the people that sees this as an opportunity instead of a threat that usually ends up ahead..

For me now, TBH, I do not really celebrate some of these ATHs too much, because honestly they come and go like normal phases in Bitcoin.. The key prices I will be celebrating are when we are talking about serious price like $200k to $1m haha , that is the kind of level that will change the whole conversation around Bitcoin and even the financial sector at large. I have got my eyes on those prices lol, until then every other ATH in between just feels like checkpoints on a long road trip... i am not saying it is bad to acknowledge them, it is just how i see it.. In all my point is the dip is not the opposite of ATH, it is actually the partner that makes the next ATH possible...

What I see is that ATH and dips are not just about price action, they are actually psychological checkpoints. Each ATH forces the market to bring in a new wave of believers, while each dip cleans out the weak hands who only came in for quick gains. That cycle of onboarding and cleansing is what keeps Bitcoin strong long term.

Another way to look at it is that dips after ATHs serve as price memory. Once Bitcoin has touched a certain level, even if it falls, that price gets written into history and becomes a reference point for future rallies. For example, when Bitcoin broke $20k in 2020 after rejecting it in 2017, that memory made it a strong support instead of just a random number. The same will happen with every new ATH going forward.

So instead of seeing ATH and dip as opposite ends, I see them as stages in Bitcoin’s process of building trust in the market. ATHs expand the imagination of what’s possible, and dips test conviction to filter who really understands the asset. That is the deeper game behind the numbers.

You are making some points though but that is not really the case in Bitcoin investment, we all know Bitcoin is a volatile asset which means that it has the tendency to rise and also the tendency to fall and this ability to rise and  fall doesn't have a limit ( that is a certain level it will rise to or drop in a given point). So if we know and understand this, there won't be need to be talking about conviction and trust because initially we already know all these but it will be wise for us to always stick to what we believe and the target we have.

I get your point about volatility and the fact that Bitcoin has no set limit to how far it can rise or fall, that is exactly what makes it unique compared to traditional assets. But the part about conviction and trust is not separate from volatility, it is actually the response to it. Volatility creates uncertainty, and conviction is what decides who holds through that uncertainty.

If we look back, every major ATH was not just a number, it shifted the mindset of the market. People who thought $1k was too high had to adjust when $20k came, and later when $69k came. That psychological rewriting is what I mean by price memory and trust. It is not just about setting targets, it is about understanding how each cycle strengthens Bitcoin’s long term base of believers.

So yes, we all know Bitcoin is volatile, but the conviction you hold in the middle of that volatility is what separates an investor from just another speculator. That is why I see ATHs and dips as more than just numbers, they are stress tests for belief in the asset.

[Jostern]

I doubt that we need to talk about inferior investments here.  The main concern should be figuring out how much bitcoin they are able to buy and to build that up during the years and likelihood of a 4-10 year or longer investment timeline.

They may consider if they are able to invest 5% or 25% of their income into bitcoin, and surely many folks might have difficulties investing 10%, but if they were able to invest 25%, then they could invest a whole years income into bitcoin in 4 years, yet surely it might not be a good idea to aim for that level of aggressiveness from the start, even though they might be able to work up to that level once they get used to buying bitcoin on a weekly basis and set up their systems for both their buying of bitcoin and their cashflow management systems  and back ups.

Sometimes it’s more important that we encourage ourselves when trying to make an investment and be more motivated and disciplined that is why we shouldn’t talk about low investments, just like it’s said we could try and make sure we know how much discretionary funds that we are able to have depending when we have our income available, then we could try to figure out what we have available to keep accumulating bitcoin on a regular and consistent basis, and having that mindset of holding for a long term purpose, we could actually think about having a good percentage of our income and making available of a good reasonable amount of discretionary income and buying and accumulating always to map out ways of growing our Bitcoin portfolio if we should put 4-10 years into consideration and then align our plans with our accumulation strategy and trying to hodl for a long term purpose. And also having a good financial plans to keep buying and accumulating consistently through other financial means. And planning a good financial management and trying to work on our expenses that would be quite unnecessary.

[Ricardo11]

This is what most investors should have a mindset set of that lack of discipline approach and poor management skills can hinder the successful implementation of DCA even with a good source of income, And aslo DCA can be a convenient and effective strategy for investing  but it's success depends on proper application been used to approach it, and aslo by combining this two together it gives you good management skills and consistency, investor can potentially maximize the benefits of DCA and achieve their long term financial goals.

This is absolutely correct, discipline in investing, proper management is absolutely very important, we often see that many people have a very large amount of income.
But they cannot save much money or invest anywhere and the only reason for this is that they do not have financial management and discipline.
With proper financial management, an investor can buy Bitcoin consistently, even if his family income is small.
Therefore, it is very important to be disciplined in financial management, reduce all your unnecessary expenses, or completely abandon them.
If you use unnecessary expenses to buy Bitcoin, and also buy Bitcoin consistently through discretionary income, then it is possible to build a very large Bitcoin portfolio.
In fact, these small investments become very large in the long run, and this only requires consistency.
This can take on a very large size in the future, and can bring you huge success, which will be beyond your expectations.

[Moreno233]

Sometimes I feel that even while doing the DCA one should still look at the prices especially if we know that we are in bull market and the bitcoin prices are on the higher side.

If you ask me I will try to invest more during the bear season while as the price increases my DCA amount will start to lower. I think this is call smart DCA because in this case you will accumulate more  at lower prices and it will give you more returns.  

I don't think anyone is saying that looking at the chart once in a while is bad, what I know is not healthy is staying in the chart always and monitoring every move of the market. This will not only drain you or make you waste precious time you would have used for other productive things, it can lead you to anxiety which if you are not careful can make you take quick decision that will not help your portfolio. If you are using the DCA method, definitely you will know the price at the point you are placing your order, that is enough instead of running any form of technical analysis on the chart before you buy, just click buy and your order is filled and you make withdrawal to your wallet. Buying Bitcoin should not be too complex for us sine we already know that long term is the goal.

[Stormisover]

This reminds me of a friend of mine who used DCA and is now making significant profits. Initially, he refused to do DCA, but now he truly feels the benefits.  

Sometimes when I see people making posts relating to making significant profits it gets me wondering the level of their Bitcoin accumulation stage and how long they must have been holding Bitcoin to be talking about making significant profits, the real fact is that it is good talking about profits when we are still in the accumulation stage and have not gotten to or  some where close to or over accumulation and maybe has hold Bitcoin for at least one to two cycles or more if not the focus should be more accumulating more Bitcoin instead of talking about profits because from post I doubt if your friend has gotten to this point of which you are now talking about making significant profits.

Sometimes I feel that even while doing the DCA one should still look at the prices especially if we know that we are in bull market and the bitcoin prices are on the higher side.

If you ask me I will try to invest more during the bear season while as the price increases my DCA amount will start to lower. I think this is call smart DCA because in this case you will accumulate more  at lower prices and it will give you more returns.  

I don't consider this as being smart, modifying your DCA amount sounds retarding to me because the overall market is unpredictable, there is possibility that the price can keep going up after you must have kept some money you should have used together to buy Bitcoin making you to have missed good opportunity. You don't have to consider such approach in one direction.

[Lembo69]

I doubt that we need to talk about inferior investments here.  The main concern should be figuring out how much bitcoin they are able to buy and to build that up during the years and likelihood of a 4-10 year or longer investment timeline.

They may consider if they are able to invest 5% or 25% of their income into bitcoin, and surely many folks might have difficulties investing 10%, but if they were able to invest 25%, then they could invest a whole years income into bitcoin in 4 years, yet surely it might not be a good idea to aim for that level of aggressiveness from the start, even though they might be able to work up to that level once they get used to buying bitcoin on a weekly basis and set up their systems for both their buying of bitcoin and their cashflow management systems  and back ups.

Sometimes it’s more important that we encourage ourselves when trying to make an investment and be more motivated and disciplined that is why we shouldn’t talk about low investments, just like it’s said we could try and make sure we know how much discretionary funds that we are able to have depending when we have our income available, then we could try to figure out what we have available to keep accumulating bitcoin on a regular and consistent basis, and having that mindset of holding for a long term purpose, we could actually think about having a good percentage of our income and making available of a good reasonable amount of discretionary income and buying and accumulating always to map out ways of growing our Bitcoin portfolio if we should put 4-10 years into consideration and then align our plans with our accumulation strategy and trying to hodl for a long term purpose. And also having a good financial plans to keep buying and accumulating consistently through other financial means. And planning a good financial management and trying to work on our expenses that would be quite unnecessary.

Yes, you should develop your mindset before investing in such a way that you have to start your Bitcoin journey with a long-term investment. Because anything short-term is more stressful and increases blood pressure. People make wrong decisions more due to lack of time. So you can invest in Bitcoin for the long term. This will reduce the risk of losing your investment and your ignorance will also increase as you have time in the market. An ideal investor always thinks about the long term first. If you can continue your investment for a long time, then you will face many things starting from a recessionary market. But yes, if you do not lose your investment, then you may be profitable in the future.

Always plan long-term about your investment. Your plan is one of the sources of your investment. It is said that what a person tries for, he gets. Therefore, plan long-term about your investment. Maybe the investment you make will make you profitable.

[AYOBA]

I also continue to use DCA because this method is very effective because we don't need to monitor the BTC price or determine whether it's a bearish or bullish season. Sometimes, waiting for a bearish season to arrive and then buying is just a waste of time. If we don't consider the timing of DCA, we'll certainly end up with a large amount of BTC because we'll inevitably encounter fluctuating BTC prices. However, if we wait, for example, to buy BTC during a bearish season, we'll certainly have less BTC compared to someone who buys BTC without waiting for a bearish or bullish season.

For those who are still waiting for the bearish season to arrive before they can buy bitcoin, I think they should just count themselves out of the people that will buy bitcoin this season. Because a person who really wants to invest in the Bitcoins will not still be waiting for the bearish season to arrive, and they say the earlier is better. What if the bearish season later comes at the wrong moment? How can he do it? He will end up with regrets.

So, I certainly see no reason to stop DCA because DCA doesn't consider price or season. Of course, no one who uses DCA for BTC feels a loss as long as they hold it for the long term. This reminds me of a friend of mine who used DCA and is now making significant profits. Initially, he refused to do DCA, but now he truly feels the benefits.  

If that should be the case that they stop DCA, it will probably be a little bit of a pain because it will affect a lot of users since almost everyone now prefers to buy bitcoins by using the DCA method, as it makes everything easier, which also helps us to accumulate the way we like, so in this case I don’t think stopping the DCA method will be possible in this situation.

[Nathrixxx]

Depending on the season, if the market is already on dip, you may choose to invest and hold till we are out of it, to DCA comes with a clkind of double advantage for those interested in using it, the first aspect is the way it helps in buying gradually as the income flow in for us, then we take advantage of investing without missing out in the buying opportunity over time and we are buying at every dip.

Secondly, it helps reduce the risk of losing more at the bear market where everything seems to be hard to make profits, our own loss will be minimized and we can easily com out of it because of this strategy serving as the best alternative approach for long time investors, because they can hold and over time make profits the more with their assets as the market rise, her have to understand the reason for anything we choose to take, while at the verge of investing in bitcoin this season.