Buy Buy Buy or Sell Sell Sell?

[Skydrill]

It is always good for an investor to have a long-term mindset. Because short-term investments carry a lot of risk. But long-term investments have a much lower risk of losing your money. Since its inception, the value of Bitcoin has increased significantly in the long term and it is expected that it will increase even more in the future.

Their is nothing as short term investment in Bitcoin, it's either you are a trader that buys and sells in a short period of time or you buy and hold strong into the future, those that are buying with the intention of selling once Bitcoin add in value are mostly traders not investors, and honestly speaking, a trader makes little or nothing in like 10 years interval when compared to a Bitcoin holder in also the same stipulated timeframe, so buying constantly and accumulating will not carries you back and forth like trading, but it's more rewarding on the longer run than trading that is more stressful but less rewarding.

Don't confuse yourself, short term investment is same thing as trading because their aim or motive is to sell whenever there is little increase in the market so the word short term should not confuse you. The amount of money or profit a trader will make in 10 years time can not be compared to what an investor will be on in 10 years time because the reason is very clear and simple, in this 10 years time a trader will be struggling to make profit and sometimes when they make profit they will also lose it when next they place another trade and this is how it will be going until this 10 years but investor's own is just accumulating and holding and there is every tendency that the price of Bitcoin won't be the same as of when they started holding.

whether long or short term, it doesn't really matter, what really matters is the profit you make at the end of the day, making profit is the main reason for trading anyway, but on the other hand, I think both the long term and the short term trading pattern can be used by any trader pending on which patter that the trader finds convenient or whichever pattern works better for h or her, we shouldn't try to make it look as if one method is superior or more profitable than the other except you have convincing reason for your claims.

[Finebone]

whether long or short term, it doesn't really matter, what really matters is the profit you make at the end of the day, making profit is the main reason for trading anyway, but on the other hand, I think both the long term and the short term trading pattern can be used by any trader pending on which patter that the trader finds convenient or whichever pattern works better for h or her,

Who says it doesn't matter, yes it really does matters, do you think traders makes even close to what investors in Bitcoin make in a period of ten or fifteen years time? No.
So stop trying to mislead others, it really does matters.

we shouldn't try to make it look as if one method is superior or more profitable than the other except you have convincing reason for your claims.

Here you come again, almost all traders are losing money, but investors in Bitcoin that is only thinking long term will hard lose his assets, and if he can hold for long, their is a higher chances of him building a generational wealth through it, so investment in bitcoin is way more superior to trading mate.
With the knowledge gotten in my short stay here through sir jayjuangee, I have come to understand that ignorance is what makes most people think that Trading is on the same level as investing in bitcoin.

[Okosisie]

I think there is nothing wrong if a good investor happened to wait for Small dump or dip in the market

Waiting for small dump or dip in the market till when? Like when will the little dump come or occure? Is that not a waste of time and delaying your investment and probably the potential Bitcoin you would have accumulated if you had just started with your discretionary income at hand? Waiting for Dips that are not certain is not been realistic as an investor and must must be avoided. Start now, no matter what the price is at the market, use the DCA and start now, as time goes on, you can save up extra cash for that, depending on your cash flow. Stop waiting for Dips!

Additionally, buying during periods of low trading volume can also be advantageous. Low trading volume typically results in less price volatility, making it a more stable time to make your purchase. Overall, the key is to buy when the market is down and sell when it's up

What do you mean by low trading volume? We are not in anyway encouraging trading or dealing with shitcoins and/or altcoins. They are not realistic and are like mare gambling. It's Bitcoin and a more stable coin.

You mentioned buying when the market is low and selling when it is up,,, That is a NO NO! As an investor, you do not wait for the market to drop before beggining to buy Bitcoin, No,  because such mentality does not make you an investor but a trader.

Secondly, why would you even want to sell? How much of Bitcoin have you accumulated?  Didn't you enter the market to Hodl for long? Why in a hurry to sell because of a little pump? Imagine if you Hodl that your Bitcoin assets that you want to sell for at least more 4years(a circle) or more, think of the additional value, wouldn't it be more profitable for you rather than to sell now?

Buying and Hodl for longer term, 1-2-3 circles or even more would give you much more value than a hasty sell now no matter the level of gain you think you might have made now, though everyone has a choice to how they can deal with their Holdings, it is there's after all.

Your totally right from your perspective of HODL, not that it's a bad idea selling when the volatility of it is high, though prior to the market structure, I totally agreed with you, it is nice to accumulate an HODL for long to aid you a better snip of value invested but for beginners they will always think of investing when the stock is low

[Okosisie]

It is always good for an investor to have a long-term mindset. Because short-term investments carry a lot of risk. But long-term investments have a much lower risk of losing your money. Since its inception, the value of Bitcoin has increased significantly in the long term and it is expected that it will increase even more in the future.

Their is nothing as short term investment in Bitcoin, it's either you are a trader that buys and sells in a short period of time or you buy and hold strong into the future, those that are buying with the intention of selling once Bitcoin add in value are mostly traders not investors, and honestly speaking, a trader makes little or nothing in like 10 years interval when compared to a Bitcoin holder in also the same stipulated timeframe, so buying constantly and accumulating will not carries you back and forth like trading, but it's more rewarding on the longer run than trading that is more stressful but less rewarding.

Whether to trade or invest depends on one's initial planning.
Trading Bitcoin also allows for substantial cumulative profits (if the trader has the necessary knowledge). However, for long-term investment, Bitcoin carries a lower risk level than trading and the potential for significant future profits. Therefore, I believe we should choose long-term investment rather than taking significant risks in trading. This is a realistic approach for someone who chooses long-term investment in Bitcoin.

I totally agreed with you it is nicer to make long term investment because it will aid you a generational wealth and it will reduce your worries especially when need arise

[Coin bag]

What's your take on this? Given the period we're in is it buy time or sell time?

I want to believe that you are referring to bitcoin. Therefore, if you think long term, you are in the buy and hold period. If you think short term you are in the panic and sell period.

This is the best way I can think of it.

"It's a buyer's market, but timing is key. With market volatility, consider buying during dips or retracements. Keep a close eye on trends, set clear entry and exit points, and prioritize risk management. Stay informed, adapt to market shifts, and be patient. Buying low and selling high requires strategic planning and discipline."

[Kaliandra]

It is always good for an investor to have a long-term mindset. Because short-term investments carry a lot of risk. But long-term investments have a much lower risk of losing your money. Since its inception, the value of Bitcoin has increased significantly in the long term and it is expected that it will increase even more in the future.

In my opinion, both long-term and short-term investments have risks, but long-term investments are better because they provide comfort and avoid worrying about market conditions, and so on. BTC's price will undoubtedly rise significantly in the future.

However, I don't blame people who invest in BTC for the short term or trade it. Having people trading makes it easier to obtain BTC. For example, if we don't find anyone selling BTC on an exchange, it can be a bit of a hassle to buy BTC. So, long-term investment in BTC is a good thing, and trading is also a good thing. However, I prefer long-term investment in BTC because BTC's price will likely rise significantly in the future, and long-term investment is certainly less tiring.

[Money bag]

It is always good for an investor to have a long-term mindset. Because short-term investments carry a lot of risk. But long-term investments have a much lower risk of losing your money. Since its inception, the value of Bitcoin has increased significantly in the long term and it is expected that it will increase even more in the future.

Their is nothing as short term investment in Bitcoin, it's either you are a trader that buys and sells in a short period of time or you buy and hold strong into the future, those that are buying with the intention of selling once Bitcoin add in value are mostly traders not investors, and honestly speaking, a trader makes little or nothing in like 10 years interval when compared to a Bitcoin holder in also the same stipulated timeframe, so buying constantly and accumulating will not carries you back and forth like trading, but it's more rewarding on the longer run than trading that is more stressful but less rewarding.

Whether to trade or invest depends on one's initial planning.
Trading Bitcoin also allows for substantial cumulative profits (if the trader has the necessary knowledge). However, for long-term investment, Bitcoin carries a lower risk level than trading and the potential for significant future profits. Therefore, I believe we should choose long-term investment rather than taking significant risks in trading. This is a realistic approach for someone who chooses long-term investment in Bitcoin.

Bitcoin trading will lead to a loss at the end of the day, no one looking to make substantial profit from bitcoin should even consider trading it, instead they should be smart enough to invest in bitcoin, only impatient people will claim to trade in bitcoin and history has shown that the usually don't get anything out of it, I have come to understand that in order for me to gain from bitcoin then I will have to invest in it, as long as I'm willing to accumulate as much bitcoin as I can for at least 4 to 10 years, it might look long now but as time goes by you will realize that the time is not that long compared to the profit that will be made from it, people who invented in bitcoin started from 2015 have even been able to more than double the value of their stash. Bitcoin investment is a great chance of ending in profit.

[POPOLUV]

You are sounding like a trader here, because only in trading you can get disappointed when the price of Bitcoin drop because one will lose everything they entered that market with but in investment, your asset is your asset no matter the level of drop or dip Bitcoin undergoes, because when it comes up again you will see your asset adding value and growing that is why we are advise to invest instead of trading because in Investment you can not lose your money or asset unless your seed phrase or wallet has been compromised.

There is no doubt about the fact that investing in bitcoin feels more secured than trading. In trading, traders are  exposing their to risk and the chances of losing ones income is very high when compared with long term investment. However, the fact that trading is risky doesn't mean that there is no risk associated with investing in bitcoin or long term holding. Investing in bitcoin doesn't mean that automatically the investor is sure of profits at the end of there investment timeline. So long term investment doesn't guarantee success or doesn't mean that at the end that our investment is going to be successful.

Yep bro, that is just the way it is. Gambling distorts both your feelings as well as your sense of reasoning, it keeps on whispering only one more time. You find yourself caught up in the pursuit of losses and persuading yourself that you are going to win it back before long. Once it gets in your system it is a difficult cycle to break and so that is why it is important to have self control right at the beginning.

Gambling is not a total bad idea, but it depends on how and were places your gambling, i disagree with you when you said that gambling will destroy some one feeling and sens of reasoning, i know that gambling with your investments will only lose more profits within a short period of time and which is not good for any newbies or investors that has already gotten the experience to embark on gambling his investment, and when gambling can do to you if you have started gambling and you are seeing your losing, gambling will put you in a state of quagmire not destroying your sense of reasoning.

[Barikui1]

"It's a buyer's market, but timing is key. With market volatility, consider buying during dips or retracements. Keep a close eye on trends, set clear entry and exit points, and prioritize risk management. Stay informed, adapt to market shifts, and be patient. Buying low and selling high requires strategic planning and discipline."

All you said here are just nonsense bro, we are Investors not traders, and for a matter of fact, we don't need to do all that to accumulate Bitcoin. Don't you know that by doing all these you made mentioned you are going to miss a whole lot of buying opportunities?
And if you are a low coiner, will you also be messing around timing the market and do a few other shitty things you talked about?

The earlier you understand that buying and accumulating as much unit of Bitcoin as possible, the better because waiting and timing the market thinking that you can outsmart it is a complete waste of time that wouldn't take you anywhere.

[EG_O]

"It's a buyer's market, but timing is key. With market volatility, consider buying during dips or retracements. Keep a close eye on trends, set clear entry and exit points, and prioritize risk management. Stay informed, adapt to market shifts, and be patient. Buying low and selling high requires strategic planning and discipline."

All you said here are just nonsense bro, we are Investors not traders, and for a matter of fact, we don't need to do all that to accumulate Bitcoin. Don't you know that by doing all these you made mentioned you are going to miss a whole lot of buying opportunities?
And if you are a low coiner, will you also be messing around timing the market and do a few other shitty things you talked about?

The earlier you understand that buying and accumulating as much unit of Bitcoin as possible, the better because waiting and timing the market thinking that you can outsmart it is a complete waste of time that wouldn't take you anywhere.

You are very correct sir. Waiting or Timing is a total waste of time when it comes to Bitcoin investment. As a real investor, it is very important to forget about waiting for any dip and also learn how to invest always as long as you have your discretionary income ready at the moment. There are some people who are used to this timing and most of them are Bitcoin traders who claim to be investors. So it will not be a good advice here so the newbies will not get confused and do the wrong thing.

Whoever thinks that market timing is the best he could do with Bitcoin, then there's no need to venture into Bitcoin especially if you are not ready to loose your money. Buy always because any price you see today will still be the dip for tomorrow and until newbies understand that, then they will be making mistakes always.

[Agbamoni]

I strongly disagree with you on this because trading isn't the same as investments in Bitcoin. I am convinced that you're a trader because you have the mindset of a trader in you . Trading Bitcoin for quick profits,traders are the ones losing money trying to outsmart the market . It is only traders that Buys Bitcoin without using a discretional income. In trading, they is a high chances of you losing all of your money, amounts of Capital doesn't matter. Traders are the most unsuccessful people in Bitcoin. You can't be a trader and be lecturing Real investors about success in Bitcoin.

If I were you, I wont jump into conclusion that Just common is a trader. The state he is right now is a state of doubt. Investors like him always try to weigh the balance between trading and investing, so they dont know which one to fully opt into. Such person shouldn't even go into any because they wont be consistent at all.

The choice to become a trader or an investor is always there at the beginning stage. So, I dont care if a trader losses money, honestly i was so happy when the price fell on Oct 10th because, people need to learn the hard way. Investors weren't affected, but a lot of traders lost their money and almost lost their life's. Are they aware of investment? Yes, but they made the wrong choice.

[POPOLUV]

It is always good for an investor to have a long-term mindset. Because short-term investments carry a lot of risk. But long-term investments have a much lower risk of losing your money. Since its inception, the value of Bitcoin has increased significantly in the long term and it is expected that it will increase even more in the future.

Their is nothing as short term investment in Bitcoin, it's either you are a trader that buys and sells in a short period of time or you buy and hold strong into the future, those that are buying with the intention of selling once Bitcoin add in value are mostly traders not investors, and honestly speaking, a trader makes little or nothing in like 10 years interval when compared to a Bitcoin holder in also the same stipulated timeframe, so buying constantly and accumulating will not carries you back and forth like trading, but it's more rewarding on the longer run than trading that is more stressful but less rewarding.

Don't confuse yourself, short term investment is same thing as trading because their aim or motive is to sell whenever there is little increase in the market so the word short term should not confuse you. The amount of money or profit a trader will make in 10 years time can not be compared to what an investor will be on in 10 years time because the reason is very clear and simple, in this 10 years time a trader will be struggling to make profit and sometimes when they make profit they will also lose it when next they place another trade and this is how it will be going until this 10 years but investor's own is just accumulating and holding and there is every tendency that the price of Bitcoin won't be the same as of when they started holding.

whether long or short term, it doesn't really matter, what really matters is the profit you make at the end of the day, making profit is the main reason for trading anyway, but on the other hand, I think both the long term and the short term trading pattern can be used by any trader pending on which patter that the trader finds convenient or whichever pattern works better for h or her, we shouldn't try to make it look as if one method is superior or more profitable than the other except you have convincing reason for your claims.

If i should go according to what you are saying that it doesn't matter weather if you are involved in short term or long term, that what matters most is if there is profits, i didn't argue with about if there is profits in both long and short but i will advise that long term is the best and it will for ever remain the best because you can't compare the profits an investors will make in his long term Bitcoin portfolio and when an investors engage only in a short term, so please you should not mislead any one or newbies that might come across this your above statement, because you are passing information on short term is good as long term is good, i want to remind you that Short term investment users ending up gambling.

[Promocodeudo]

I strongly disagree with you on this because trading isn't the same as investments in Bitcoin. I am convinced that you're a trader because you have the mindset of a trader in you . Trading Bitcoin for quick profits,traders are the ones losing money trying to outsmart the market . It is only traders that Buys Bitcoin without using a discretional income. In trading, they is a high chances of you losing all of your money, amounts of Capital doesn't matter. Traders are the most unsuccessful people in Bitcoin. You can't be a trader and be lecturing Real investors about success in Bitcoin.

If anyone has said this already, I think is very obvious that such person is either a trader or it is very difficult for him o her to differentiate between the two, although a trader can be categorized as a short-term investor but the best way to deefine  traders  is classifying them as gamblers, one of my friend always tell me when we are arguing about how trading relates to that there's no similarity between the two, I ask him question like can a trader become addicted to trading he said somehow, he gave his reasons which didn't go well with me and I can't go in details narrating about but one thing I have come to understand is that, many of these traders knows the truth, I think it will be better fri them to admit the fact then they can do there thing after all no one is forcing anyone anywhere, as far Bitcoin investment is concerned traders can not say they are better than the real investors, is just that some people has chosen to chase quick profit and there's nothing we can do about it since os there choice.

[ruykeri]

whether long or short term, it doesn't really matter, what really matters is the profit you make at the end of the day, making profit is the main reason for trading anyway, but on the other hand, I think both the long term and the short term trading pattern can be used by any trader pending on which patter that the trader finds convenient or whichever pattern works better for h or her, we shouldn't try to make it look as if one method is superior or more profitable than the other except you have convincing reason for your claims.

If you think about profit in the wrong way and invest in high risk, then you will see that the possibility of loss is very high. Although you can make a lot of profit quickly by trading Bitcoin in a short time, the risk is very high here. That is why most people face losses by investing in a short time or the profit is relatively low. If the risk probability becomes 50%, then that trading basically becomes like gambling. but the longer you invest in Bitcoin, the more the risk decreases and the possibility of higher profit becomes much higher. High profit and low risk are always possible only with long-term investment.

As you said, it actually does not fit with Bitcoin investment. Some investments come through where you make a profit or a loss if you invest. If you invest for a long time, those assets do not give as much profit as Bitcoin. Sometimes if you invest something and hold it for a long time, the value of the asset can decrease due to the economic collapse and various geopolitical problems of that country. But in the case of investing in Bitcoin, the longer you can invest, the more risk will decrease and profit will increase. Therefore, Bitcoin investment should not be confused with other investments. Bitcoin is not just about profit or loss, it is also a means of security in the future.

[Bigjoe33]

It is always good for an investor to have a long-term mindset. Because short-term investments carry a lot of risk. But long-term investments have a much lower risk of losing your money. Since its inception, the value of Bitcoin has increased significantly in the long term and it is expected that it will increase even more in the future.

Their is nothing as short term investment in Bitcoin, it's either you are a trader that buys and sells in a short period of time or you buy and hold strong into the future, those that are buying with the intention of selling once Bitcoin add in value are mostly traders not investors, and honestly speaking, a trader makes little or nothing in like 10 years interval when compared to a Bitcoin holder in also the same stipulated timeframe, so buying constantly and accumulating will not carries you back and forth like trading, but it's more rewarding on the longer run than trading that is more stressful but less rewarding.

Don't confuse yourself, short term investment is same thing as trading because their aim or motive is to sell whenever there is little increase in the market so the word short term should not confuse you. The amount of money or profit a trader will make in 10 years time can not be compared to what an investor will be on in 10 years time because the reason is very clear and simple, in this 10 years time a trader will be struggling to make profit and sometimes when they make profit they will also lose it when next they place another trade and this is how it will be going until this 10 years but investor's own is just accumulating and holding and there is every tendency that the price of Bitcoin won't be the same as of when they started holding.

whether long or short term, it doesn't really matter, what really matters is the profit you make at the end of the day, making profit is the main reason for trading anyway, but on the other hand, I think both the long term and the short term trading pattern can be used by any trader pending on which patter that the trader finds convenient or whichever pattern works better for h or her, we shouldn't try to make it look as if one method is superior or more profitable than the other except you have convincing reason for your claims.

If i should go according to what you are saying that it doesn't matter weather if you are involved in short term or long term, that what matters most is if there is profits, i didn't argue with about if there is profits in both long and short but i will advise that long term is the best and it will for ever remain the best because you can't compare the profits an investors will make in his long term Bitcoin portfolio and when an investors engage only in a short term, so please you should not mislead any one or newbies that might come across this your above statement, because you are passing information on short term is good as long term is good, i want to remind you that Short term investment users ending up gambling.

To me, this is not a debatable matter because in Bitcoin accumulation, long term plan has always proven  more profitable than short time trading. Here is the reason.. if I happen to buy Bitcoin and wait for a little pump and then sell to take my gains. This is assumed the shirt term trading. Remember that the possibility of Bitcoin pumping immediately if not assured, so you would have to wait till it pumps, and since you don't know or can't calculate the pumping speed, due to its volatile nature, you would only sell at the price target you set for yourself. Now, when you sell at the target you have set, and you take your profit, and the price highs the more, who losses? Wouldn't you have benefited more if you allowed it?

Secondly, at this point now, because the price keeps pumping, or is pumping, you would love to buy again right? Now, the price is no longer the same, meaning you would have to take some cash from the gain you have made from your previous sell to buy another bitcoin, at this point, are you actually gaining or lossing? Then again, what if you make this purchase and the price dumps, what becomes your fate? While you are waiting for increase, it keep depreciating, of course we all know the high level of its volatility. So if it keeps dumping, what will you do? You might be forced to sell immediately at least to save some money, and at this point, have you also gained or loss in the market?? Am sure you know the answer?

Such short term Bitcoin trading is so worrisome and nothing tangible can come out of it, yea. No matter the pump and sell you made called gain, it can never be compared to an investor who keeps accumulating bitcoin, holding for years, lets say for 2-3 circles consistently. This is because, the trader collects his profit and spends it I'm buying another one, while the investor keeps saving up. The difference is just too clear. Sincerely, I can't go through the stress of trading, the safety is in Accumulating and Hodl.

[Umulala-alala]

whether long or short term, it doesn't really matter, what really matters is the profit you make at the end of the day, making profit is the main reason for trading anyway, but on the other hand, I think both the long term and the short term trading pattern can be used by any trader pending on which patter that the trader finds convenient or whichever pattern works better for h or her, we shouldn't try to make it look as if one method is superior or more profitable than the other except you have convincing reason for your claims.

It matters how can you say that long and short term bitcoin investment doesn't matter can you compare the little profit you get from trading than when you bought and hodl for long?  Did you also know that short term traders panic more and sell at lost when there is a dip as for a long term investor he will not panic instead he will still buying more bitcoin at dip since he knows that he is still at his accumulation journey he wouldn't think of selling because he still has more years of buying and holding BTC. So you should know that long term investment superior and more profitable than short term traders.

[Lidger]

It is always good for an investor to have a long-term mindset. Because short-term investments carry a lot of risk. But long-term investments have a much lower risk of losing your money. Since its inception, the value of Bitcoin has increased significantly in the long term and it is expected that it will increase even more in the future.

Their is nothing as short term investment in Bitcoin, it's either you are a trader that buys and sells in a short period of time or you buy and hold strong into the future, those that are buying with the intention of selling once Bitcoin add in value are mostly traders not investors, and honestly speaking, a trader makes little or nothing in like 10 years interval when compared to a Bitcoin holder in also the same stipulated timeframe, so buying constantly and accumulating will not carries you back and forth like trading, but it's more rewarding on the longer run than trading that is more stressful but less rewarding.

Don't confuse yourself, short term investment is same thing as trading because their aim or motive is to sell whenever there is little increase in the market so the word short term should not confuse you. The amount of money or profit a trader will make in 10 years time can not be compared to what an investor will be on in 10 years time because the reason is very clear and simple, in this 10 years time a trader will be struggling to make profit and sometimes when they make profit they will also lose it when next they place another trade and this is how it will be going until this 10 years but investor's own is just accumulating and holding and there is every tendency that the price of Bitcoin won't be the same as of when they started holding.

Those who call investment short-term actually do not need to use this term, they can consider their investment as trading if they want. In the case of trading, the main objective of a trader is to buy a specific coin at a low price and sell it when the price of that coin increases relatively a little. Those who call their investment short-term investment do the same thing, that is, they buy a coin at a low price and try to sell it at a relatively small profit. There is a lot of difference between short-term investment or trading and long-term investment. In a long-term plan, there is no opportunity to think that you have bought and after a few days you will sell it after seeing a profit, rather long-term investment tells you to keep your investment for a long time and to increase your investment continuously.

[Derekfunds]

What's your take on this? Given the period we're in is it buy time or sell time?

I want to believe that you are referring to bitcoin. Therefore, if you think long term, you are in the buy and hold period. If you think short term you are in the panic and sell period.

This is the best way I can think of it.

"It's a buyer's market, but timing is key. With market volatility, consider buying during dips or retracements. Keep a close eye on trends, set clear entry and exit points, and prioritize risk management. Stay informed, adapt to market shifts, and be patient. Buying low and selling high requires strategic planning and discipline."

What are you saying dude, i see you are mixing both trading and investment together and you can easily confuse yourself and some people who can not be able to differentiate what you are saying. Timing the market is what traders does and not investors and it is a total waste to time the market because no matter how you time it you can not get the exact movement or direction. Risk management and patient are among the things an investor needs to scale through In their Bitcoin investment because if you are not patient enough you would sell quickly making you a trader and you don't have to over invest that is going outside your discretionary income it is wrong.

[Agbam]

It is always good for an investor to have a long-term mindset. Because short-term investments carry a lot of risk. But long-term investments have a much lower risk of losing your money. Since its inception, the value of Bitcoin has increased significantly in the long term and it is expected that it will increase even more in the future.

Their is nothing as short term investment in Bitcoin, it's either you are a trader that buys and sells in a short period of time or you buy and hold strong into the future, those that are buying with the intention of selling once Bitcoin add in value are mostly traders not investors, and honestly speaking, a trader makes little or nothing in like 10 years interval when compared to a Bitcoin holder in also the same stipulated timeframe, so buying constantly and accumulating will not carries you back and forth like trading, but it's more rewarding on the longer run than trading that is more stressful but less rewarding.

Don't confuse yourself, short term investment is same thing as trading because their aim or motive is to sell whenever there is little increase in the market so the word short term should not confuse you. The amount of money or profit a trader will make in 10 years time can not be compared to what an investor will be on in 10 years time because the reason is very clear and simple, in this 10 years time a trader will be struggling to make profit and sometimes when they make profit they will also lose it when next they place another trade and this is how it will be going until this 10 years but investor's own is just accumulating and holding and there is every tendency that the price of Bitcoin won't be the same as of when they started holding.

Nope, these executions are not the same. They differ on risk, strategy and execution, but I think the profitability is both questionable since both posses same risk which is still not advisable to execute especially if they are not really paying much lots of attention on those trades or short term investment made.

With so many turbulence happening in the market those situation will make the position of traders so shaky. So if they are not really knowledgeable on other technical stuff there's good chance for them to fall out.

Unlike long term holders which target 4 - 10 years investment they have can pass 1 to 2 halving cycles which bring good impact to the price and also for their profitability in future. Also many good things are provably going to happen as Bitcoin have limited supply then institutional adoptions became more bigger and bigger with this all things leads to positive result for long term holder, that's why future is really great if people would decide to HODL rather than trading their Bitcoin.

If I’m to get what is being discussed above correctly, it’s that trading bitcoin is not advisable and it’s better to just buy and hodl for a long term while still accumulating bitcoin.
The issue of Saying “Short term investment is same thing as trading”; I think the person who said there’s nothing as short term investment is also correct, if bitcoin is more profitable for long term then that should be the standard, if you’re buying for short term gains that’s trading. So it’s either you’re investing for the long term or you’re trading (which is the short term investment). So Both speakers are correct technically.
But the last speaker I don’t understand what he’s disagreeing on when he said Nope, and the rest of his comments summary.

[Onyeeze]

What's your take on this? Given the period we're in is it buy time or sell time?

I want to believe that you are referring to bitcoin. Therefore, if you think long term, you are in the buy and hold period. If you think short term you are in the panic and sell period.

This is the best way I can think of it.

"It's a buyer's market, but timing is key. With market volatility, consider buying during dips or retracements. Keep a close eye on trends, set clear entry and exit points, and prioritize risk management. Stay informed, adapt to market shifts, and be patient. Buying low and selling high requires strategic planning and discipline."

What are you saying dude, i see you are mixing both trading and investment together and you can easily confuse yourself and some people who can not be able to differentiate what you are saying. Timing the market is what traders does and not investors and it is a total waste to time the market because no matter how you time it you can not get the exact movement or direction. Risk management and patient are among the things an investor needs to scale through In their Bitcoin investment because if you are not patient enough you would sell quickly making you a trader and you don't have to over invest that is going outside your discretionary income it is wrong.

Don't you know that experience investors also time the market, their timing is to know when to buy Bitcoin at DCA  so that it will be easy for them to make a profit, every investment plans have a timing and the timing works with the target of the investor, is not only traders that time when they will enter market and when they will be out of the market, investors also calculate and check when they will buy and they will not get lost within the period they buy Bitcoin to hold, I have seen someone who bought a Bitcoin at high cost and within short time the price of Bitcoin collapsed and the minds of the investor is to hold bitcoin for short-term, because he needed to make profit at the moment, but his plans failed because the price of Bitcoin falls drastically.