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October 16, 2025, 12:18:03 AM
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What's your take on this? Given the period we're in is it buy time or sell time?
I want to believe that you are referring to bitcoin. Therefore, if you think long term, you are in the buy and hold period. If you think short term you are in the panic and sell period.

This is the best way I can think of it.
"It's a buyer's market, but timing is key. With market volatility, consider buying during dips or retracements. Keep a close eye on trends, set clear entry and exit points, and prioritize risk management. Stay informed, adapt to market shifts, and be patient. Buying low and selling high requires strategic planning and discipline."

If a person is investing into bitcoin 4-10 years or more, then why would it matter very much if he bought at $75k, $110k, $126k or some other amount, especially if he is still early in accumulating his bitcoin (meaning that he hardly has any bitcoin).

sure any of us would prefer to buy bitcoin cheaper, but there is no guarantee that bitcoin prices will go cheaper than they are right now, and even if they do, if a person planning on keeping on buying, then he can buy as the price goes up and/or down, including buy more if the BTC price goes down, but still be prepared in case the BTC price goes up from here, rather than going down.

What's your take on this? Given the period we're in is it buy time or sell time?
I want to believe that you are referring to bitcoin. Therefore, if you think long term, you are in the buy and hold period. If you think short term you are in the panic and sell period.

This is the best way I can think of it.
"It's a buyer's market, but timing is key. With market volatility, consider buying during dips or retracements. Keep a close eye on trends, set clear entry and exit points, and prioritize risk management. Stay informed, adapt to market shifts, and be patient. Buying low and selling high requires strategic planning and discipline."
What are you saying dude, i see you are mixing both trading and investment together and you can easily confuse yourself and some people who can not be able to differentiate what you are saying. Timing the market is what traders does and not investors and it is a total waste to time the market because no matter how you time it you can not get the exact movement or direction. Risk management and patient are among the things an investor needs to scale through In their Bitcoin investment because if you are not patient enough you would sell quickly making you a trader and you don't have to over invest that is going outside your discretionary income it is wrong.
Don't you know that experience investors also time the market, their timing is to know when to buy Bitcoin at DCA  so that it will be easy for them to make a profit, every investment plans have a timing and the timing works with the target of the investor, is not only traders that time when they will enter market and when they will be out of the market, investors also calculate and check when they will buy and they will not get lost within the period they buy Bitcoin to hold, I have seen someone who bought a Bitcoin at high cost and within short time the price of Bitcoin collapsed and the minds of the investor is to hold bitcoin for short-term, because he needed to make profit at the moment, but his plans failed because the price of Bitcoin falls drastically.

Investors are not necessarily as focused on profits as you believe them to be... Sure, they are likely presuming that in the long run, their BTC holdings will be in profits.. yet they may well not be focusing on profit levels and they also may well be considering how much bitcoin they can stash, whether it is over 4 to 10 years or perhaps even longer when he might transition from stacking bitcoin, to maintaining his stash and then towards starting to sell some of his stash. His stash likely gives him more options, whether he continues to add more to his bitcoin stash or not.

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October 16, 2025, 12:35:57 AM
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What's your take on this? Given the period we're in is it buy time or sell time?

I want to believe that you are referring to bitcoin. Therefore, if you think long term, you are in the buy and hold period. If you think short term you are in the panic and sell period.

This is the best way I can think of it.

"It's a buyer's market, but timing is key. With market volatility, consider buying during dips or retracements. Keep a close eye on trends, set clear entry and exit points, and prioritize risk management. Stay informed, adapt to market shifts, and be patient. Buying low and selling high requires strategic planning and discipline."

What are you saying dude, i see you are mixing both trading and investment together and you can easily confuse yourself and some people who can not be able to differentiate what you are saying. Timing the market is what traders does and not investors and it is a total waste to time the market because no matter how you time it you can not get the exact movement or direction. Risk management and patient are among the things an investor needs to scale through In their Bitcoin investment because if you are not patient enough you would sell quickly making you a trader and you don't have to over invest that is going outside your discretionary income it is wrong.
Don't you know that experience investors also time the market, their timing is to know when to buy Bitcoin at DCA  so that it will be easy for them to make a profit, every investment plans have a timing and the timing works with the target of the investor, is not only traders that time when they will enter market and when they will be out of the market, investors also calculate and check when they will buy and they will not get lost within the period they buy Bitcoin to hold, I have seen someone who bought a Bitcoin at high cost and within short time the price of Bitcoin collapsed and the minds of the investor is to hold bitcoin for short-term, because he needed to make profit at the moment, but his plans failed because the price of Bitcoin falls drastically.

It is so funny how most people will want to buy Bitcoin with the mindset that Bitcoin should continue to go up and without coming down to any where close to their buying points, volatility is the realistic which implies that it may either go up ur come down, Bitcoin is best for long term and not in the short term, chasing short term profit is highly complicated because the market is unpredictable.
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October 16, 2025, 12:53:52 AM
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What's your take on this? Given the period we're in is it buy time or sell time?

I want to believe that you are referring to bitcoin. Therefore, if you think long term, you are in the buy and hold period. If you think short term you are in the panic and sell period.

This is the best way I can think of it.

"It's a buyer's market, but timing is key. With market volatility, consider buying during dips or retracements. Keep a close eye on trends, set clear entry and exit points, and prioritize risk management. Stay informed, adapt to market shifts, and be patient. Buying low and selling high requires strategic planning and discipline."

What are you saying dude, i see you are mixing both trading and investment together and you can easily confuse yourself and some people who can not be able to differentiate what you are saying. Timing the market is what traders does and not investors and it is a total waste to time the market because no matter how you time it you can not get the exact movement or direction. Risk management and patient are among the things an investor needs to scale through In their Bitcoin investment because if you are not patient enough you would sell quickly making you a trader and you don't have to over invest that is going outside your discretionary income it is wrong.


Investors got no worries on timing the market. Market timing is for traders who hope to buy at any value and sells at any significant profits. It's very disturbing on how to time the market rightly because while you are hoping to see the the phase in a particular direction, you will usually see it outside target and becoming successful there becomes a very high risk due to unpredictable volatilities.
Investors will always be less worried and also faces less risk with the approach of holding in the long term while patient is the key word to break through their success. They buys without a timing but sticks to their investment goals while buying the dip could be a fortunate coincidence or better timing for those investors who had kept funds aside to buy the dip when it comes.

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October 16, 2025, 02:43:48 AM
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What's your take on this? Given the period we're in is it buy time or sell time?

I want to believe that you are referring to bitcoin. Therefore, if you think long term, you are in the buy and hold period. If you think short term you are in the panic and sell period.

This is the best way I can think of it.

"It's a buyer's market, but timing is key. With market volatility, consider buying during dips or retracements. Keep a close eye on trends, set clear entry and exit points, and prioritize risk management. Stay informed, adapt to market shifts, and be patient. Buying low and selling high requires strategic planning and discipline."

What are you saying dude, i see you are mixing both trading and investment together and you can easily confuse yourself and some people who can not be able to differentiate what you are saying. Timing the market is what traders does and not investors and it is a total waste to time the market because no matter how you time it you can not get the exact movement or direction. Risk management and patient are among the things an investor needs to scale through In their Bitcoin investment because if you are not patient enough you would sell quickly making you a trader and you don't have to over invest that is going outside your discretionary income it is wrong.
Don't you know that experience investors also time the market, their timing is to know when to buy Bitcoin at DCA  so that it will be easy for them to make a profit, every investment plans have a timing and the timing works with the target of the investor, is not only traders that time when they will enter market and when they will be out of the market, investors also calculate and check when they will buy and they will not get lost within the period they buy Bitcoin to hold, I have seen someone who bought a Bitcoin at high cost and within short time the price of Bitcoin collapsed and the minds of the investor is to hold bitcoin for short-term, because he needed to make profit at the moment, but his plans failed because the price of Bitcoin falls drastically.


You made a fair point about timing and profit-taking, but I think you’re still blending trading logic with investment principles. In Bitcoin, investors generally don’t “time” the market in the same sense traders do their focus is on steady accumulation and conviction through cycles.
Even experienced investors who use DCA aren’t timing the market for short-term gains; they’re just managing volatility while sticking to a consistent plan. Market timing often looks smart in hindsight, but in real time it’s nearly impossible to get right, especially with Bitcoin’s unpredictable swings.
Patience, allocation discipline, and long-term vision tend to outperform frequent buying and selling. The goal isn’t to catch the perfect dip, but to stay invested long enough that short-term noise no longer matters.

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October 16, 2025, 03:39:52 AM
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The important of both are also on different levels, both have there own flaws and advantages,  
There advantages includes
short-term
1. The investment profits are received when necessary for emergencies
This is a wrong approach to investing and a very bad cashflow management practice, emergency funds should be built with other variances of backup funds and floating cashes alongside your buying and holding Bitcoin to take care of real emergencies as against tampering your portfolio when emergencies occur. You could be disappointed that you may even seek in a loss of Bitcoin is experiencing a negative price correction at the time your emergencies occurred. Again emergency fund should be held in less volatile financial medium like cash, Bank accounts, stable coins oru other medium that it becomes readily available and reachable anytime we experience emergencies.

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4. It requires less funding
This is wrong, getting good value from your investment on a long-term holding plan has a lot to do with the size of your portfolio, having a bigger stash needs good funding but the beauty of it is that you can be doing the funding on a periodic routine using DCA thereby spreading your buys over a longer period of time to achieve your accumulation target. It's a slow and steady approach to funding your investment and if maintained for a cycle or more, you would've ended up putting a lot of funds into your Bitcoin portfolio without much stress which you couldn't have done comfortably at once.

 
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October 16, 2025, 04:51:39 AM
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What's your take on this? Given the period we're in is it buy time or sell time?
I want to believe that you are referring to bitcoin. Therefore, if you think long term, you are in the buy and hold period. If you think short term you are in the panic and sell period.

This is the best way I can think of it.
"It's a buyer's market, but timing is key. With market volatility, consider buying during dips or retracements. Keep a close eye on trends, set clear entry and exit points, and prioritize risk management. Stay informed, adapt to market shifts, and be patient. Buying low and selling high requires strategic planning and discipline."

If a person is investing into bitcoin 4-10 years or more, then why would it matter very much if he bought at $75k, $110k, $126k or some other amount, especially if he is still early in accumulating his bitcoin (meaning that he hardly has any bitcoin).

sure any of us would prefer to buy bitcoin cheaper, but there is no guarantee that bitcoin prices will go cheaper than they are right now, and even if they do, if a person planning on keeping on buying, then he can buy as the price goes up and/or down, including buy more if the BTC price goes down, but still be prepared in case the BTC price goes up from here, rather than going down.
That’s actually a great way to look at it. When someone has a long term perspective, let’s say 4 to 10 years or even longer, their entry price tend to be a lot less significant compared to how consistent they choose to be. Bitcoin is a long term asset and investing in it should be a long term game. It fluctuates rapidly within the short term, but looking at the historical records and trends of Bitcoin, you’ll notice that holding over a few cycles always has its own way of smoothing out that market volatility.

Every newbie investor’s first priority should be accumulating a good number of Bitcoins through consistent buying, which means attempting to catch the bottom of the market or having to stress themselves about which entry point they should buy at should be the least of their problems. Building a sizable position overtime should be the goal and you can’t do that by trying to be too smart with the market, because waiting for the perfect time would lead you to hesitation and of course missed opportunities, especially when Bitcoin fails to come back to the point they’re actually expecting it to come back to.

Ordinarily, it might actually look like there’s actually a huge difference between buying at $75k or at $120k,   But over the long time when Bitcoin hits more higher ATHs, you’ll notice that that difference is no longer as relevant as you thought. The most important thing is “time in the market” and not “timing the market”.

An investor who stays disciplined and consistent with their accumulation, whether it’s via a consistent DCA or a periodic lump sum, they put themselves in a position where they can potentially take advantage of both upsides and downsides of the market. Whenever there’s a DIP in the market, they get to accumulate more at discount, and whenever the price rises, they also get to accumulate even while they wait for their earliest purchases to gain more value. Either ways, they’re actively participating in the long term growth and trajectory of Bitcoin rather than just sitting around and waiting for the perfect entry point.

So yeah, it’s normal for everyone to want to buy at a much lower price, but the most important thing shouldn’t be what price at which your make your buys but staying engaged, disciplined and maintaining a long term perspective of the asset. The worst scenario ever in Bitcoin accumulation isn’t spending more in a buy when you could’ve spent way less, it is not giving yourself enough exposure and depriving yourself the chance to really participate in the market, simply because you’re waiting around for the perfect moment that may likely not come.

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October 16, 2025, 06:00:06 AM
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What's your take on this? Given the period we're in is it buy time or sell time?

I want to believe that you are referring to bitcoin. Therefore, if you think long term, you are in the buy and hold period. If you think short term you are in the panic and sell period.

This is the best way I can think of it.

"It's a buyer's market, but timing is key. With market volatility, consider buying during dips or retracements. Keep a close eye on trends, set clear entry and exit points, and prioritize risk management. Stay informed, adapt to market shifts, and be patient. Buying low and selling high requires strategic planning and discipline."

What are you saying dude, i see you are mixing both trading and investment together and you can easily confuse yourself and some people who can not be able to differentiate what you are saying. Timing the market is what traders does and not investors and it is a total waste to time the market because no matter how you time it you can not get the exact movement or direction. Risk management and patient are among the things an investor needs to scale through In their Bitcoin investment because if you are not patient enough you would sell quickly making you a trader and you don't have to over invest that is going outside your discretionary income it is wrong.
Don't you know that experience investors also time the market, their timing is to know when to buy Bitcoin at DCA  so that it will be easy for them to make a profit, every investment plans have a timing and the timing works with the target of the investor, is not only traders that time when they will enter market and when they will be out of the market, investors also calculate and check when they will buy and they will not get lost within the period they buy Bitcoin to hold, I have seen someone who bought a Bitcoin at high cost and within short time the price of Bitcoin collapsed and the minds of the investor is to hold bitcoin for short-term, because he needed to make profit at the moment, but his plans failed because the price of Bitcoin falls drastically.

What then differential you from a trader,I believe your answer will be nothing.  You share same ideology with traders which is timing the market,apparently you're a trader disguising as an investor. I am not actually condemning you for been a trader but I was expecting you to make it plainly that you are trader rather than disguising. However, I find your post very contradicting and very misleading to newbies following this thread, because a newbie reading this post will start having the wrong mindset that monitoring/timing the market before buying Bitcoin is right. Believe me, no smart or experienced investor will have this thoughts of timing the market before buying Bitcoin when he is already DCAng. The Primary importance of DCA is to allow an investor to buy Bitcoin regardless of the price without timing the market. So I strongly disagree with you that long term investors in Bitcoin also time the market before buying Bitcoin, anyone seen doing this isn't an investor but a trader.


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October 16, 2025, 06:01:03 AM
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What's your take on this? Given the period we're in is it buy time or sell time?

I want to believe that you are referring to bitcoin. Therefore, if you think long term, you are in the buy and hold period. If you think short term you are in the panic and sell period.

This is the best way I can think of it.

"It's a buyer's market, but timing is key. With market volatility, consider buying during dips or retracements. Keep a close eye on trends, set clear entry and exit points, and prioritize risk management. Stay informed, adapt to market shifts, and be patient. Buying low and selling high requires strategic planning and discipline."

What are you saying dude, i see you are mixing both trading and investment together and you can easily confuse yourself and some people who can not be able to differentiate what you are saying. Timing the market is what traders does and not investors and it is a total waste to time the market because no matter how you time it you can not get the exact movement or direction. Risk management and patient are among the things an investor needs to scale through In their Bitcoin investment because if you are not patient enough you would sell quickly making you a trader and you don't have to over invest that is going outside your discretionary income it is wrong.

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Don't you know that experience investors also time the market, their timing is to know when to buy Bitcoin at DCA 
the idea behind the DCA is that investor will care less about timing the market or then trying to catch that exact and perfect buying price. They understand that one cannot perfectly and accurately time the market, so they consistently just keep stacking and stacking irrespective of the current price........Timing the market like you said is mostly the habit of those investors who combines DCA and buying the dips or those who only buy the dip. Whereas pure DCA investor cares less about the idea of market timing.

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October 16, 2025, 06:08:57 AM
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It is so funny how most people will want to buy Bitcoin with the mindset that Bitcoin should continue to go up and without coming down to any where close to their buying points, volatility is the realistic which implies that it may either go up ur come down, Bitcoin is best for long term and not in the short term, chasing short term profit is highly complicated because the market is unpredictable.
Ordinarily Bitcoin is not meant to keep increasing, it fluctuate, but people who is conscious of making profit is the one who is conscious of Bitcoin increase, an investor doesn't concentrate for profit but a trader concentrate for profit making, because it trade with time, and little mistake can make a trader to lose whole of things, I want us to know that a real investor is not curious to know if the price of Bitcoin is increasing or not, because his investment on bitcoin can be something that will take up to five years interval before it will look after it, and a real investor doesn't borrow money to investor that lead the investor to be curious for its investment

Someone who is curious for profit or who borrowed to invest are the one that always having timing for it Bitcoin investment, and it seems investment on bitcoin as trading, and that's wrong concept of understanding of investing on bitcoin and trading, I think we need to clear many people doubt on that

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October 16, 2025, 06:29:08 AM
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the idea behind the DCA is that investor will care less about timing the market or then trying to catch that exact and perfect buying price. They understand that one cannot perfectly and accurately time the market, so they consistently just keep stacking and stacking irrespective of the current price........
Yea, what you said here are actually true, the DCA accumulating strategy makes it possible to accumulate a whole lot of unit of Bitcoin even though you are a low coiner, as long as you are consistent in your accumulation.
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Timing the market like you said is mostly the habit of those investors who combines DCA and buying the dips or those who only buy the dip.
Those timing the market thinking they can outsmart it are not Investors bro, they are traders thinking they can outsmart the market, which on many occasions they miss out on so many buying opportunities because no one knows what will happen to the market the next hour and the dip they were expecting never came to reality, so it's not a good approach when accumulating Bitcoin, especially when you are just starting out or you are a low coiner

 
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October 16, 2025, 10:29:56 AM
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the idea behind the DCA is that investor will care less about timing the market or then trying to catch that exact and perfect buying price. They understand that one cannot perfectly and accurately time the market, so they consistently just keep stacking and stacking irrespective of the current price........
Yea, what you said here are actually true, the DCA accumulating strategy makes it possible to accumulate a whole lot of unit of Bitcoin even though you are a low coiner, as long as you are consistent in your accumulation.
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Timing the market like you said is mostly the habit of those investors who combines DCA and buying the dips or those who only buy the dip.
Those timing the market thinking they can outsmart it are not Investors bro, they are traders thinking they can outsmart the market, which on many occasions they miss out on so many buying opportunities because no one knows what will happen to the market the next hour and the dip they were expecting never came to reality, so it's not a good approach when accumulating Bitcoin, especially when you are just starting out or you are a low coiner
I strongly support you on this matter. Timing the market is a losing strategy, especially for new or small-scale Bitcoin investors. Traders who try to outsmart the market often miss buying opportunities waiting for dips that may never come. Investors should focus on consistent accumulation through dollar-cost averaging rather than trying to perfectly time entries. When you're starting out with limited capital, steady buying beats chasing the perfect price. The compounding gains from staying in the market outweigh the risk of missing out while waiting.
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Those who call investment short-term actually do not need to use this term, they can consider their investment as trading if they want. In the case of trading, the main objective of a trader is to buy a specific coin at a low price and sell it when the price of that coin increases relatively a little. Those who call their investment short-term investment do the same thing, that is, they buy a coin at a low price and try to sell it at a relatively small profit. There is a lot of difference between short-term investment or trading and long-term investment. In a long-term plan, there is no opportunity to think that you have bought and after a few days you will sell it after seeing a profit, rather long-term investment tells you to keep your investment for a long time and to increase your investment continuously.
Can we even know the coin you are referring to? Is it shitcoins that we should invest for long or Bitcoin? When making a point be more up and specific so we can get your main point. When investing in Bitcoin we should choose a long time plan rather than going for a short time profit, we shouldn't even go into investing in altcoins there price falls at level you won't imagine those who prefer other coin than Bitcoin should do that with the smallest money they can afford, Bitcoin can dip and still goes up so there is a hope for long time Bitcoin investors and long time hodlers.
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If a person is investing into bitcoin 4-10 years or more, then why would it matter very much if he bought at $75k, $110k, $126k or some other amount, especially if he is still early in accumulating his bitcoin (meaning that he hardly has any bitcoin).

sure any of us would prefer to buy bitcoin cheaper, but there is no guarantee that bitcoin prices will go cheaper than they are right now, and even if they do, if a person planning on keeping on buying, then he can buy as the price goes up and/or down, including buy more if the BTC price goes down, but still be prepared in case the BTC price goes up from here, rather than going down.

I think it doesn’t matter if an investor is buying bitcoin for such amounts like you have mentioned even buying bitcoin for $120k or $126k, because investing for 4-10 years which is a good number of year for investing in bitcoin, because we plebs are trying to buy and accumulate bitcoin on a consistent basis, because I would prefer buying bitcoin at $120k or $126k instead of not buying at all and be waiting for a dip which i don’t know when a dip is going to come, I know most people wants to buy bitcoin on a cheaper market price, because the price of bitcoin usually fluctuates and the price of bitcoin is not steady because it goes up and down, so we can always buy bitcoin through the DCA on a consistent basis, and we can also buy more when the price of bitcoin is also down and that gives an opportunity to buy more at a cheaper price, which isn’t a very bad idea, so we should always be prepared in case the price of bitcoin goes up and down.
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October 16, 2025, 01:17:14 PM
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Don't you know that experience investors also time the market, their timing is to know when to buy Bitcoin at DCA  so that it will be easy for them to make a profit, every investment plans have a timing and the timing works with the target of the investor, is not only traders that time when they will enter market and when they will be out of the market, investors also calculate and check when they will buy and they will not get lost within the period they buy Bitcoin to hold, I have seen someone who bought a Bitcoin at high cost and within short time the price of Bitcoin collapsed and the minds of the investor is to hold bitcoin for short-term, because he needed to make profit at the moment, but his plans failed because the price of Bitcoin falls drastically.

It is so funny how most people will want to buy Bitcoin with the mindset that Bitcoin should continue to go up and without coming down to any where close to their buying points, volatility is the realistic which implies that it may either go up ur come down, Bitcoin is best for long term and not in the short term, chasing short term profit is highly complicated because the market is unpredictable.

Furthermore, I believe that individuals who expect Bitcoin to continue to rise feel that those investors who have been on this journey for a decade did not experienced any of this before becoming successful in their investment. Ups and downs are common in Bitcoin investments, and we must understand that the price will not rise without some dips. Sometimes the price does not even rise from where it's once dropped, but this doesn't mean it will remain there always.

Sure, we cannot predict the market, which is something some investors are unable to understand. We can't outsmart the market since that would describe us as a short-term investor. To be successful on the journey while holding our portfolio for the long term, we will need to be patient, focused, have a good plan, and be consistent in our accumulation.

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Those who call investment short-term actually do not need to use this term, they can consider their investment as trading if they want. In the case of trading, the main objective of a trader is to buy a specific coin at a low price and sell it when the price of that coin increases relatively a little. Those who call their investment short-term investment do the same thing, that is, they buy a coin at a low price and try to sell it at a relatively small profit. There is a lot of difference between short-term investment or trading and long-term investment. In a long-term plan, there is no opportunity to think that you have bought and after a few days you will sell it after seeing a profit, rather long-term investment tells you to keep your investment for a long time and to increase your investment continuously.
Can we even know the coin you are referring to? Is it shitcoins that we should invest for long or Bitcoin? When making a point be more up and specific so we can get your main point. When investing in Bitcoin we should choose a long time plan rather than going for a short time profit, we shouldn't even go into investing in altcoins there price falls at level you won't imagine those who prefer other coin than Bitcoin should do that with the smallest money they can afford, Bitcoin can dip and still goes up so there is a hope for long time Bitcoin investors and long time hodlers.
I agree that being specific is important here, in Bitcoin investment long term hodl will give you profit in bull circles while shitcoins long term investments can be considered suicidal because they'll most likely be dead before long. Bitcoin is not a get rich quick scheme like shitcoins that scams investors, if you want to be profitable in Bitcoin investment you have to be ready for the long journey of buying and hodl. This is where we cannot get tired of talking about DCA method, it is the best strategy to be focused on the journey of long term investment. All cryptocurrency are not the same, there's Bitcoin and the rest (altcoins), you can choose to gamble your funds on shitcoins for short term profit or you can have rest of mind with very minimal risks and invest in Bitcoin for the long term.

 
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October 16, 2025, 02:46:11 PM
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What's your take on this? Given the period we're in is it buy time or sell time?

I want to believe that you are referring to bitcoin. Therefore, if you think long term, you are in the buy and hold period. If you think short term you are in the panic and sell period.

This is the best way I can think of it.

"It's a buyer's market, but timing is key. With market volatility, consider buying during dips or retracements. Keep a close eye on trends, set clear entry and exit points, and prioritize risk management. Stay informed, adapt to market shifts, and be patient. Buying low and selling high requires strategic planning and discipline."

What are you saying dude, i see you are mixing both trading and investment together and you can easily confuse yourself and some people who can not be able to differentiate what you are saying. Timing the market is what traders does and not investors and it is a total waste to time the market because no matter how you time it you can not get the exact movement or direction. Risk management and patient are among the things an investor needs to scale through In their Bitcoin investment because if you are not patient enough you would sell quickly making you a trader and you don't have to over invest that is going outside your discretionary income it is wrong.
If the discussion does not consider the difference between investment and trading, then I think this discussion can definitely confuse an investor, so we should try as much as possible to discuss only investment. I do not understand how investment and trading become one because there is a lot of difference between trading and investment. Trading means buying and selling as quickly as possible. However, in the case of investment, it is not usually about selling quickly, but about holding deeply all the time. Although a trader can trade with other coins in the market, an investor always has to choose the right coin for investment and Bitcoin is always a reliable and right coin for investment. Those who have a good idea about investment will never put their money at excessive risk, that is, they will never trade. So I think we should come out of the thought of trading and think about investing in Bitcoin.
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When you're starting out with limited capital, steady buying beats chasing the perfect price. The compounding gains from staying in the market outweigh the risk of missing out while waiting.
Whatever is the size of your discretionary income big or small as a starter DCA method should be prioritize because it will enable you keep your bitcoin accumulation ongoing 4-10 years and above with consistent and persistent till you reach your bitcoin goal.

DCA strategy is both for the rich and poor because it gives you the opportunity to buy bitcoin bit by bit in a discipline manners till it becomes a habit and part of you. Unlike, the lump sum and buy dip strategy that will not be a habit because you don't buy frequently. Waiting is not a good strategy because you will be waiting in confusion and clueless on when to buy. Waiting will also hinder the growth of your bitcoin portfolio to a good size in future compared to not waiting.

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October 16, 2025, 03:53:06 PM
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Those who call investment short-term actually do not need to use this term, they can consider their investment as trading if they want. In the case of trading, the main objective of a trader is to buy a specific coin at a low price and sell it when the price of that coin increases relatively a little. Those who call their investment short-term investment do the same thing, that is, they buy a coin at a low price and try to sell it at a relatively small profit. There is a lot of difference between short-term investment or trading and long-term investment. In a long-term plan, there is no opportunity to think that you have bought and after a few days you will sell it after seeing a profit, rather long-term investment tells you to keep your investment for a long time and to increase your investment continuously.
Can we even know the coin you are referring to? Is it shitcoins that we should invest for long or Bitcoin? When making a point be more up and specific so we can get your main point. When investing in Bitcoin we should choose a long time plan rather than going for a short time profit, we shouldn't even go into investing in altcoins there price falls at level you won't imagine those who prefer other coin than Bitcoin should do that with the smallest money they can afford, Bitcoin can dip and still goes up so there is a hope for long time Bitcoin investors and long time hodlers.
I agree that being specific is important here, in Bitcoin investment long term hodl will give you profit in bull circles while shitcoins long term investments can be considered suicidal because they'll most likely be dead before long. Bitcoin is not a get rich quick scheme like shitcoins that scams investors, if you want to be profitable in Bitcoin investment you have to be ready for the long journey of buying and hodl. This is where we cannot get tired of talking about DCA method, it is the best strategy to be focused on the journey of long term investment. All cryptocurrency are not the same, there's Bitcoin and the rest (altcoins), you can choose to gamble your funds on shitcoins for short term profit or you can have rest of mind with very minimal risks and invest in Bitcoin for the long term.
You're hitting on some really solid points here. Bitcoin is a legitimate long-term investment with proven security and real value, while most altcoins are high-risk gambling vehicles likely to fail or scam investors.

In terms of investing in Bitcoin DCA strategy will reduce your pressure. According to your own convenience and ability investing a fixed amount regularly is the best approach. It removes emotion, smooths volatility, and lets you profit through patience rather than market timing. Serious Bitcoin investors use discipline and hold through market cycles for consistent gains. Altcoin chasers gamble for quick 100x returns but usually lose everything. Bitcoin offers peace of mind and minimal risk for patient, long-term hodlers. Altcoins are speculative bets that rarely pay off.
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What's your take on this? Given the period we're in is it buy time or sell time?

I want to believe that you are referring to bitcoin. Therefore, if you think long term, you are in the buy and hold period. If you think short term you are in the panic and sell period.

This is the best way I can think of it.

"It's a buyer's market, but timing is key. With market volatility, consider buying during dips or retracements. Keep a close eye on trends, set clear entry and exit points, and prioritize risk management. Stay informed, adapt to market shifts, and be patient. Buying low and selling high requires strategic planning and discipline."

What are you saying dude, i see you are mixing both trading and investment together and you can easily confuse yourself and some people who can not be able to differentiate what you are saying. Timing the market is what traders does and not investors and it is a total waste to time the market because no matter how you time it you can not get the exact movement or direction. Risk management and patient are among the things an investor needs to scale through In their Bitcoin investment because if you are not patient enough you would sell quickly making you a trader and you don't have to over invest that is going outside your discretionary income it is wrong.
I have seen someone who bought a Bitcoin at high cost and within short time the price of Bitcoin collapsed and the minds of the investor is to hold bitcoin for short-term, because he needed to make profit at the moment, but his plans failed because the price of Bitcoin falls drastically.
It is misleading to come to short term trading.Whether it is at a high price or not does not mean risk. Rather, entering the market with a short-term mindset is the biggest risk. The possibility of facing losses is very high. If I had gone back in the days of the past and had bought at a high price at the market price of 2018 without looking at the market fluctuations and had held it till now, I would not have been in loss. Rather, I could have always been in profit. Understanding the fluctuations of the market is important. But more important than that is my correct plan.
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October 16, 2025, 04:08:21 PM
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What's your take on this? Given the period we're in is it buy time or sell time?

I want to believe that you are referring to bitcoin. Therefore, if you think long term, you are in the buy and hold period. If you think short term you are in the panic and sell period.

This is the best way I can think of it.

"It's a buyer's market, but timing is key. With market volatility, consider buying during dips or retracements. Keep a close eye on trends, set clear entry and exit points, and prioritize risk management. Stay informed, adapt to market shifts, and be patient. Buying low and selling high requires strategic planning and discipline."

What are you saying dude, i see you are mixing both trading and investment together and you can easily confuse yourself and some people who can not be able to differentiate what you are saying. Timing the market is what traders does and not investors and it is a total waste to time the market because no matter how you time it you can not get the exact movement or direction. Risk management and patient are among the things an investor needs to scale through In their Bitcoin investment because if you are not patient enough you would sell quickly making you a trader and you don't have to over invest that is going outside your discretionary income it is wrong.
If the discussion does not consider the difference between investment and trading, then I think this discussion can definitely confuse an investor, so we should try as much as possible to discuss only investment. I do not understand how investment and trading become one because there is a lot of difference between trading and investment. Trading means buying and selling as quickly as possible. However, in the case of investment, it is not usually about selling quickly, but about holding deeply all the time. Although a trader can trade with other coins in the market, an investor always has to choose the right coin for investment and Bitcoin is always a reliable and right coin for investment. Those who have a good idea about investment will never put their money at excessive risk, that is, they will never trade. So I think we should come out of the thought of trading and think about investing in Bitcoin.
It's even wrong to be labelling it 'short term investment' it's not an investment it's a trade, true bitcoin investment can never be short term it's always a play on the long term expectations, so it not right for any investor to consider getting involved in short term investment since that will basically make them traders and not investors.
Sometimes I really wonder what would convince a person to trade bitcoin, it's not a very smart decision and it's not even profitable and looking for something profitable is what pushes people into trading so why trade when you would most likely not get any profit out of it.

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