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November 30, 2024, 06:14:01 PM
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I was very disappointed with the 0-0 result for Lazio because after all, Lazio is the team that is at the top of the Europa League standings, while Ludogorets is the team that is at the bottom of the standings. Also, in the previous four matches, Lazio always managed to get a  win and also, in Serie A, Lazio at this moment is still in a very good trend. With these considerations and the factor of playing at home, of course it made me very confident to choose Lazio in that match and even with the handicap option. But yeah, in reality maybe Lazio underestimated Ludogorets too much, until Lazio got their first draw in this Europa League, but what was worse was that Lazio was held to a draw  at home even though they only played against Ludogorets who were at the bottom of the standings.

Lazio disappointed us with their performance against Ludogorets, and I do not expect the game to end without a single goal scored. Despite dominating the game, Lazio failed to score against Ludogorets. Lazio had 20 shots, 6 were on target, but they failed to score a single goal. I had the same views as you because Lazio has been in excellent form this season, I expected them to defeat Ludogorets by more than three goals, I gave them to score more than 2.5 goals. Because they were able to defeat Porto and Twente while remaining at the top of the table. However, Ludogorets earned their first Europa League point with a draw against Lazio.


However, I wasn't able to see the Lazio game against Ludogorets, but I had an opinion that they failed to put their best players in the game since they were already at the top of the league, even if they lost, they would not lose their opportunity to make it to the next round. It seemed confusing that Lazio failed to defeat a club that had lost their first four Europa League games. Lazio is now leading the league with 13 points, despite the draw.

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November 30, 2024, 07:13:17 PM
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Lazio disappointed us with their performance against Ludogorets, and I do not expect the game to end without a single goal scored. Despite dominating the game, Lazio failed to score against Ludogorets. Lazio had 20 shots, 6 were on target, but they failed to score a single goal. I had the same views as you because Lazio has been in excellent form this season, I expected them to defeat Ludogorets by more than three goals, I gave them to score more than 2.5 goals. Because they were able to defeat Porto and Twente while remaining at the top of the table. However, Ludogorets earned their first Europa League point with a draw against Lazio.


However, I wasn't able to see the Lazio game against Ludogorets, but I had an opinion that they failed to put their best players in the game since they were already at the top of the league, even if they lost, they would not lose their opportunity to make it to the next round. It seemed confusing that Lazio failed to defeat a club that had lost their first four Europa League games. Lazio is now leading the league with 13 points, despite the draw.

If you pay attention to the game pattern applied by Lazio coach, Marco Baroni in every match there will be some changes. It seems he adjusts his tactics based on the opponent they face. Marco Baroni often rotates some of his players to change positions or with players on his bench. Only a few players will continue to be used as starters. So too with the formation applied, sometimes he uses 4-2-3-1, 4-4-2, or 4-3-3. Apart from the draw obtained when facing Ludogorets, he is a coach who is difficult to predict.

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November 30, 2024, 07:38:53 PM
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Should I say they escaped, well,
Manchester United played good today. They could have gotten smoked but they didn’t. They came right back in the game, just before the end of second half. Scored that early second half goal and was able to hold there lead till the final whistle.

Spurs couldn’t seal there game in a win, I expected that of them at least. Roma is good but, considering the form of Spurs, this should have been a 3 points for them but sadly, they had to share points with Roma in a 2:2 scoreline.
Fine it was not their best performance but I wouldn’t say Manchester United escaped against Bodo Glimt. Manchester United were able to achieve good result with all three points. And as for Tottenham Hotspur, their game against Roma was a disappointing one. They constantly lost the lead in the first half and second respectively.
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November 30, 2024, 07:46:23 PM
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There is still a lot of work to be done and maybe Amorim still hasn't received much pressure in the two matches that have taken place because they are facing much weaker opponents. If you pay attention, there are still many weaknesses in the defense line because even though they managed to score goals, their defense is so easily passed by opposing players that it doesn't take long for the opponent to score a goal. From the two matches that took place, I saw that there was no good coordination between the defense lines and they even had a lot of difficulty covering the gaps when the opponent started to counterattack.
Currently, Manchester united defense is the major problem that they are having since Ten Hag time till date. This is why you see that sharp attackers breakthrough easily and find the back of the net, United should be happy that Onana is always confidently waiting on his spot to stop any ball coming into the goal post. A lot needs to be put together in the team starting from the defense to the strikers.
This has been a problem for many years, even on the season they were third they had a bad defense, and last season they had one of the worst and this season it's getting even worse. I kept seeing them getting offensive players and I went mad every single time, they should have bought some players that would have made the defense better. The only defender they got was Leny Yoro, who has been missing every game so far this season, he was estimated to return start of this month but he missed his mark by a full month so far, lets see when he will come back.

So basically, they haven't had any defensive transfer so far this season at all, just one that has been missing, nothing more. To think that a single player, even if healthy, could change this defense completely and make them better, is delusional, there is no way that Yoro could come here, and make such a huge defensive change. Maguire is out too but I am not sure if that's a bad thing or a good thing lol.

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November 30, 2024, 07:52:26 PM
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Should I say they escaped, well,
Manchester United played good today. They could have gotten smoked but they didn’t. They came right back in the game, just before the end of second half. Scored that early second half goal and was able to hold there lead till the final whistle.

Spurs couldn’t seal there game in a win, I expected that of them at least. Roma is good but, considering the form of Spurs, this should have been a 3 points for them but sadly, they had to share points with Roma in a 2:2 scoreline.
Fine it was not their best performance but I wouldn’t say Manchester United escaped against Bodo Glimt. Manchester United were able to achieve good result with all three points. And as for Tottenham Hotspur, their game against Roma was a disappointing one. They constantly lost the lead in the first half and second respectively.
Manchester United game plan changed. Amorim actually did say that we will see a significant difference in the playing style and I did see the difference in the match between Bodo. Although, the Bodo side is considered an average club but they can be used to measure.

I am confident that Amorim will do better with Manchester United especially after the January open window. If the 3 man defence works and the boys are able to press, all will be well.

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November 30, 2024, 08:09:15 PM
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Fine it was not their best performance but I wouldn’t say Manchester United escaped against Bodo Glimt. Manchester United were able to achieve good result with all three points. And as for Tottenham Hotspur, their game against Roma was a disappointing one. They constantly lost the lead in the first half and second respectively.
Manchester actually got lucky and it's fine to say they escaped, if you did saw that game you will agree that Manchester wasn't stable enough, grey got carried away thinking they were going to win the game without much stress probably their opponent isn't that tough and to make it real they had early goals which helped them to get relaxed until they got equalized in the same first half, after the goal Manchester United has in the second half, they weren't having good attempts as much as bodo/glimt, so they weren't in their best and they somehow got lucky.
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November 30, 2024, 08:12:47 PM
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Manchester actually got lucky and it's fine to say they escaped, if you did saw that game you will agree that Manchester wasn't stable enough, grey got carried away thinking they were going to win the game without much stress probably their opponent isn't that tough and to make it real they had early goals which helped them to get relaxed until they got equalized in the same first half, after the goal Manchester United has in the second half, they weren't having good attempts as much as bodo/glimt, so they weren't in their best and they somehow got lucky.

Yeah it was a really difficult win for the Red Devils. It is totally because of trying to adapt to a new system of Amorim. He loves 3-4-3 and 3-4-2-1 formations. He wants to make it work at Manchester United as well. But it will take time as it isn't a system they are familiar with. Otherwise I believe they could have beaten Bodo/Glimt much easier than this.

Hojlund seems really contented with the new system though.  Smiley  I have seen a comment of him after the game that he was glad with the formation with 3 defenders. He says he plays more comfortable in this way.

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That's the kind of performance we wanted to see from Manchester United against Bodø/Glimt. Manchester United performed very well in this match and they left the field with a win. Bodø/Glimt's position was above Manchester United but they were not a stronger team than Manchester United and this opportunity was exploited by Manchester United. But with Manchester United's performance throughout the match, we expected some more goals from them, but it didn't happen. Manchester United had more possession throughout the period and their strategy certainly worked. The players under this manager are able to pass the ball successfully and their passing accuracy is much better than under the previous manager.
Ruben Amorim managed to achieve his first victory since coaching Manchester United, in my opinion the victory over Bodo/Glimt was a good momentum to mark their revival this season. Manchester United fans now look quite optimistic, they seem to be able to forget the disappointing period with Ten Hag before. Ruben Amorim is considered to be able to adapt quickly, the approach and strategy he implemented were able to be carried out well by his players. The Red Devils look more solid and appear more attacking with a 3-4-2-1 formation, a formation that seems to be maintained in the next match.

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November 30, 2024, 08:39:02 PM
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Manchester United game plan changed. Amorim actually did say that we will see a significant difference in the playing style and I did see the difference in the match between Bodo. Although, the Bodo side is considered an average club but they can be used to measure.

I am confident that Amorim will do better with Manchester United especially after the January open window. If the 3 man defence works and the boys are able to press, all will be well.
It doesn't change anything. Of course, there is an improvement in the team because of the effort of Amorim. But he won't be able to go far with this player. For now, let him make the necessary adjustments and formation in terms of tactics to pass through the games they have until the next transfer windows. I believe the club is ready to spend money on getting good players. They also have some players they are willing to let go during the next transfer windows.

Am also confident as well that Amorim is the next big deal. Let's hope for the best in the coming weeks. Manchester United's next game is against Arsenal on Wednesday they need to pass through them and then I can evaluate their performance and know how much they've improved so far.

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November 30, 2024, 09:57:13 PM
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Manchester United game plan changed. Amorim actually did say that we will see a significant difference in the playing style and I did see the difference in the match between Bodo. Although, the Bodo side is considered an average club but they can be used to measure.

I am confident that Amorim will do better with Manchester United especially after the January open window. If the 3 man defence works and the boys are able to press, all will be well.

They need to play like this consistently,  I wasn't okay with the chemistry,  I only enjoyed Manual Ugarte whohas worked with the manager during them days with Sporting Lisbon. I won't call them average,  they fought hard to come to this competition and level this particular season.

They will lose some games as they go, especially the game against Arsenal coming up on Tuesday against Manchester united. I see them bonding at the end of this season, fighting for the league would be a dream finally once again.

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November 30, 2024, 10:18:17 PM
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Fine it was not their best performance but I wouldn’t say Manchester United escaped against Bodo Glimt. Manchester United were able to achieve good result with all three points. ~Snipped
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Bodo glimt is not even a team in the top 5 leagues in Europe and man Utd nearly dropped points against them on home soil. I know Ruben is still new at this time and ut would be cruel to start judging him already but let's face the fact, nothing has really changed (yet) except some changes in his tactics but that was bound to change anyway. Performance wise, they still performed like when ETH was in charge. I know because I saw the game.

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November 30, 2024, 10:38:29 PM
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Manchester actually got lucky and it's fine to say they escaped, if you did saw that game you will agree that Manchester wasn't stable enough, grey got carried away thinking they were going to win the game without much stress probably their opponent isn't that tough and to make it real they had early goals which helped them to get relaxed until they got equalized in the same first half, after the goal Manchester United has in the second half, they weren't having good attempts as much as bodo/glimt, so they weren't in their best and they somehow got lucky.
Manchester United for a truth did fall behind their visitors Bodo/Glimt before coming back to claim victory, I don't think their win was out of luck. Ruben Amorim's men didn't have a good performance in the first half of the game but in the second half, they came back as the better side which was why they completed the come back. The new manager if the English club is still experimenting his style of football with the players and I believe they'll be almost unplayable by the time they fully master it.
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Bodo glimt is not even a team in the top 5 leagues in Europe and man Utd nearly dropped points against them on home soil. I know Ruben is still new at this time and ut would be cruel to start judging him already but let's face the fact, nothing has really changed (yet) except some changes in his tactics but that was bound to change anyway. Performance wise, they still performed like when ETH was in charge. I know because I saw the game.

Yes Bodo Glimt is not part of the top 5 European leagues but this is the second tier of the European competition and it is advisable to respect all the clubs in the competition as they are the same already since they are in the same competition just that some have reputation which precedes them just like Manchester United. Against Bodo glimit if there is anyone who doesn’t see changes in how Manchester United played then the person didn’t clearly watch the game. Personally there was a huge improvement as to how Manchester United controlled the match, more than 70% possessions and like 20 attempts created, it was just the players actually squandering the chances that made the match so open until death. The struggle in the match is most players haven’t still adapt to the new system with some already playing excellently well in it, few more games and they should blend and maybe we will see better the game Amorim wants to play but right now he seems on track and should just concentrate on the defensive pattern because Manchester United have definitely be conceding lots of goals which is definitely bad for them

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December 01, 2024, 02:37:22 AM
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Fine it was not their best performance but I wouldn’t say Manchester United escaped against Bodo Glimt. Manchester United were able to achieve good result with all three points. ~Snipped
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Bodo glimt is not even a team in the top 5 leagues in Europe and man Utd nearly dropped points against them on home soil. I know Ruben is still new at this time and ut would be cruel to start judging him already but let's face the fact, nothing has really changed (yet) except some changes in his tactics but that was bound to change anyway. Performance wise, they still performed like when ETH was in charge. I know because I saw the game.

I would never blame Amorim for this. It goes too far when it is all about the coach and there is an army of mercenaries playing, making around $150 million to $200 million combined, having the best life and then they can't beat Bodo/Glimt easily and are close to defeat in the meantime? I think there is something wrong about the stance that people take when it comes to the coaches. There are limits to what they can do. They are paid well as well, yes. But when you do good training and send these rich kids out there and they don't give all their heart, there is sometimes not much you can do about.

What is important though is the player to coach connection and that is what ten Hag destroyed over the years. I think if Amorim can first and foremost reestablish this connection and try a lot to build a unit first, then I expect any advise and strategy he seeks to pursue will more quickly resonate with the players.

But this takes time and is not built over night. And Amorim did not come in the winter break or summer break, he came in the middle of the season. That's even harder.
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December 01, 2024, 04:50:22 AM
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I think you are wrong about Jose Mourinho who only thinks about money, he chose Fenerbahce compared to becoming a coach in one of the Saudi Arabian clubs because he did not want to leave the Europa League, even though if Mourinho wanted to leave the Europa League and choose the Saudi League he would definitely get a bigger salary than what he gets now, last season when he was fired while coaching Roma, Saudi Arabian clubs competed for his signature but he waited for a club that wanted to recruit him in the Europa League and it fell on Fenerbahce so money is not the reason Mourinho is in Fenerbahce.

Fenerbahce is not a Saudi Arabian club. Fenerbahce is a Turkish club. And I think Fenerbahce is a strong enough club. Saudi clubs are not that strong. Fenerbahce has the ability to do well in the Europa League. That is why Mourinho took charge of Fenerbahce.

Also, Fenerbahce management is paying Mourinho higher wages than Roma. From what I heard, Mourinho will earn more than 11 million a year at Fenerbahce. Roma management is probably not interested in spending half of that money on a coach.

I would be happy if Mourinho were to be the coach of a big club. Mourinho takes charge of teams that are not very rich. He does not spend much money on buying players either. That is why Mourinho cannot form a squad with the players he likes.
I'm also not saying Fenerbahce is a Saudi Arabian club, I know that Fenerbahce is a Turkish club and this club is in the European League and if you understand my words that say Jose Mourinho prefers to stay in the European League and he finally chose Fenerbahce and not Saudi Arabia because I know that Saudi Arabian clubs are not as competitive as the European League, besides that what he is actually pursuing is the ambition to be able to restore his good name in the European League which was tarnished because of his dismissal at Roma and I think Roma fired him not because of salary but because Mourinho could not meet the expectations desired by the owner of Roma.
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December 01, 2024, 06:53:17 AM
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After this victory, there were some weaknesses in the Manchester United squad, especially in the defensive area because they were not ready to face attacks from the opponent. It must be admitted that Man United in the Amorim era has not yet performed optimally because he had to go through an adaptation process with the players to find the best strategy. This victory will have a positive impact on the players to achieve victory in the next match, while Amorim must be able to overcome the shortcomings in his squad.
Amorim has not faced a much stronger opponent so that the real test has not been seen and even facing such a weak opponent their defense line looks so troubled facing the opponent's attack. It must be admitted that there are still many things that need to be improved by Amorim, especially for the defense and midfield because if he does not find a good composition, it will be very difficult to face a tougher opponent. But at least his presence at Manchester United creates new enthusiasm so that players can show more changes for the better this season.

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December 01, 2024, 09:15:22 AM
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Should I say they escaped, well,
Manchester United played good today. They could have gotten smoked but they didn’t. They came right back in the game, just before the end of second half. Scored that early second half goal and was able to hold there lead till the final whistle.

Spurs couldn’t seal there game in a win, I expected that of them at least. Roma is good but, considering the form of Spurs, this should have been a 3 points for them but sadly, they had to share points with Roma in a 2:2 scoreline.
Fine it was not their best performance but I wouldn’t say Manchester United escaped against Bodo Glimt. Manchester United were able to achieve good result with all three points. And as for Tottenham Hotspur, their game against Roma was a disappointing one. They constantly lost the lead in the first half and second respectively.
I don't know what's Tottenham problem in Europa, they put in good performance in EPL but they become weak in Europa. Imagine Roma who has being suffering from one defeat to the other  was able to use Tottenham to console themselves, and that should be like a big hope to Roma in their next match. Manchester united on the other hand played and outsmart Bodoe to achieve all three points.

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December 01, 2024, 09:44:32 AM
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After this victory, there were some weaknesses in the Manchester United squad, especially in the defensive area because they were not ready to face attacks from the opponent. It must be admitted that Man United in the Amorim era has not yet performed optimally because he had to go through an adaptation process with the players to find the best strategy. This victory will have a positive impact on the players to achieve victory in the next match, while Amorim must be able to overcome the shortcomings in his squad.
Amorim has not faced a much stronger opponent so that the real test has not been seen and even facing such a weak opponent their defense line looks so troubled facing the opponent's attack. It must be admitted that there are still many things that need to be improved by Amorim, especially for the defense and midfield because if he does not find a good composition, it will be very difficult to face a tougher opponent. But at least his presence at Manchester United creates new enthusiasm so that players can show more changes for the better this season.

It is easy to understand that Manchester United's performance has not been stable so far. Manchester United's condition was very weak. There was no specific match strategy. The bonding between the players was also very weak. There were many problems within the squad. It is foolish to think that Amorim will solve so many problems very quickly.

However, I can see some positive changes in Manchester United's overall performance. The understanding between the players seems to me to be stronger now than before. In the last match, Manchester United's attacking players were able to perform well. Now Amorim will have to try to strengthen Manchester United's defense.
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December 01, 2024, 10:52:09 AM
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After this victory, there were some weaknesses in the Manchester United squad, especially in the defensive area because they were not ready to face attacks from the opponent. It must be admitted that Man United in the Amorim era has not yet performed optimally because he had to go through an adaptation process with the players to find the best strategy. This victory will have a positive impact on the players to achieve victory in the next match, while Amorim must be able to overcome the shortcomings in his squad.
Amorim has not faced a much stronger opponent so that the real test has not been seen and even facing such a weak opponent their defense line looks so troubled facing the opponent's attack. It must be admitted that there are still many things that need to be improved by Amorim, especially for the defense and midfield because if he does not find a good composition, it will be very difficult to face a tougher opponent. But at least his presence at Manchester United creates new enthusiasm so that players can show more changes for the better this season.

When they face a strong team, of course, it will be much more difficult. They are not doing badly so far, something has started to change in the team. If they manage to win 3 points in today's Everton match, a good atmosphere will start to form in the team and with this morale, much better days await them. However, if they lose points in that match when the opponent is not very strong, then their chances will decrease, it is very important to catch a positive atmosphere in the team Smiley

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December 01, 2024, 11:10:48 AM
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After this victory, there were some weaknesses in the Manchester United squad, especially in the defensive area because they were not ready to face attacks from the opponent. It must be admitted that Man United in the Amorim era has not yet performed optimally because he had to go through an adaptation process with the players to find the best strategy. This victory will have a positive impact on the players to achieve victory in the next match, while Amorim must be able to overcome the shortcomings in his squad.
Amorim has not faced a much stronger opponent so that the real test has not been seen and even facing such a weak opponent their defense line looks so troubled facing the opponent's attack. It must be admitted that there are still many things that need to be improved by Amorim, especially for the defense and midfield because if he does not find a good composition, it will be very difficult to face a tougher opponent. But at least his presence at Manchester United creates new enthusiasm so that players can show more changes for the better this season.

When they face a strong team, of course, it will be much more difficult. They are not doing badly so far, something has started to change in the team. If they manage to win 3 points in today's Everton match, a good atmosphere will start to form in the team and with this morale, much better days await them. However, if they lose points in that match when the opponent is not very strong, then their chances will decrease, it is very important to catch a positive atmosphere in the team Smiley
there will be greater motivation and harder efforts when MU faces a stronger team. no need to criticize their current squad's game. Amorim will try to improve the quality of each player to the maximum level. however, those players are what he currently has in the team.
it has been said before that changing MU's performance in a positive direction will not be easy. Amorim comes when the squad that MU has is not a feared player in Europe. so he must make a strategy to increase the motivation of the players to play better.

 
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