what are the excuses casino's use to withhold your legit winnings?

[EarnOnVictor]

Are there any sneaky tricks casino's use to not pay you out when if your not scamming?

Yes of course, the use of multiple accounts and VPNs are the most common ones. Some might also allege you use a cheating system or approach. It may or may not be true judging by my experience in similar cases.

What options do you have when they won't?

At this point, you are at their mercy and some people were able to get their money back after some back-and-forth messages on their communication channels. But some would have to call them out in forums and other social media platforms to achieve their aim, and to avoid losing trust/reputation, they oblige some.

However, others may hire a lawyer or mediator/arbitrator to mediate in the case.

[Fortify]

Are there any sneaky tricks casino's use to not pay you out when if your not scamming?
What options do you have when they won't?
Thanks in advance.

There are scam casinos out there, but they rarely last long as their reputation is quickly ruined and they get "blacklisted" in many places they might want to advertise. The reality is that casinos don't need to rip people off, at a certain size they start to make so much money legitimately that they would be dumb to risk it by arguing over petty things. The reasons they will keep excess winnings usually revolve around promotional abuse, like people creating multiple accounts in order to keep taking a generous welcome bonus - they design themselves things to be one person person and not an easy money stream that people think they can steal from. Besides that, using vpns can leave you vulnerable to accusations that you are from a banned country that they might be legally excluded from serving - but they should always give you back any deposited amount you have not lost.

[Lanatsa]

Are there any sneaky tricks casino's use to not pay you out when if your not scamming?
What options do you have when they won't?
Thanks in advance.

There are scam casinos out there, but they rarely last long as their reputation is quickly ruined and they get "blacklisted" in many places they might want to advertise. The reality is that casinos don't need to rip people off, at a certain size they start to make so much money legitimately that they would be dumb to risk it by arguing over petty things. The reasons they will keep excess winnings usually revolve around promotional abuse, like people creating multiple accounts in order to keep taking a generous welcome bonus - they design themselves things to be one person person and not an easy money stream that people think they can steal from. Besides that, using vpns can leave you vulnerable to accusations that you are from a banned country that they might be legally excluded from serving - but they should always give you back any deposited amount you have not lost.

Once a certain site would be having that a proven issue that came from some accusation but on the moment that its proven out then reputation is done for, there's no way that they could go out of that not unless if they would really be resolving all of those issues and complaints that been raised up, because if we do tend to look at on which even into those known and reputable casino platforms does really have their issues too
but the good thing on here is that they do really be able to resolve out those issues without any problems and thats what important is, on which on the time or moment that you would really be facing up issues then they do immediately gets resolved and thats a good indication that you are on a good site. Come to think that building and running up a casino doesnt come cheap and it would really be just that a waste of money or capital if they would really be trying out to scam out their users on early basis. Its really just that hard to believe on.

This is why if you are having some plans on playing on sites then it would be just that sensible that you would really be having some research about their legitness and credibility. It would really be better that
you would really be that sensible on the things that you've been dealing on with. If you are really just that making yourself wary then getting scammed wont most likely to happen because you do really know
on what you are doing.This would really be just something that you would really be needing on this manner.

[mak013]

Are there any sneaky tricks casino's use to not pay you out when if your not scamming?
What options do you have when they won't?
Thanks in advance.

Mostly i was scammed by casino in two ways. Lots of KYC requirements with long expectation and "we have suspicions of a fixed match". It is enough for any casino. With fixed matches it is funny enough. One casino pay, the other one freeze money for 24 hours, the another one says it was fixed match and return the bet. Several gamblers said that they were banned for such bets. And casino mustn`t prove anything due to ToS.

[virasog]

Are there any sneaky tricks casino's use to not pay you out when if your not scamming?
What options do you have when they won't?
Thanks in advance.

Mostly i was scammed by casino in two ways. Lots of KYC requirements with long expectation and "we have suspicions of a fixed match". It is enough for any casino. With fixed matches it is funny enough. One casino pay, the other one freeze money for 24 hours, the another one says it was fixed match and return the bet. Several gamblers said that they were banned for such bets. And casino mustn`t prove anything due to ToS.

You must be playing at untrusted casinos which are not reputed because if the casino is reputed they will never will hold your funds and will always release them and let you withdraw if you win the bet or any gambling game.

For the casino's who are not conserved about the reputations only they will do this tactics of not approving the KYC only to stop people from withdrawing or delay the withdrawal and all these stuff which will annoy the gamblers and they will not come back to such casino sites if they experience these problems.

[khaled0111]

The most common excuse for banning a user’s account and seizing his funds is multiaccounting. The reason why shady casinos use this excuse most of the times is the fact that there is nothing the user can do to refute it. It will be, basically, your word against theirs (ofc, unless you tak your case to a court or to a mediation service).
Anyways, I don’t think knowing what excuse they will use really matters. If they want to scam then they can come up with any cause they want. They might even just ignore you and don’t provide any reason at all.

[Mr. Comparison]

making a test withdrawal would be recommendable before depositing big.

[khaled0111]

making a test withdrawal would be recommendable before depositing big.

This doesn’t really answers OP’s question as he is not asking about how to identify a fraudulent casino but he is interested to know the excuses they give to justify their scams.

Besides, scammers already know about this tactic. So, they will let you withdraw small amounts to gain your trust. Troubles usually arise when large amounts of money are involved.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

making a test withdrawal would be recommendable before depositing big.

This doesn’t really answers OP’s question as he is not asking about how to identify a fraudulent casino but he is interested to know the excuses they give to justify their scams.

Besides, scammers already know about this tactic. So, they will let you withdraw small amounts to gain your trust. Troubles usually arise when large amounts of money are involved.

I agree, also because according to many ToS casinos KYC is not triggered up to a certain limit, so it is normal that they don't look at your account if you make a small withdrawal but they do check it when you want to withdraw big.

This can be used by scammers as well as legitimate casinos that have a lot of customers and only check large transactions.

[junder]

This doesn’t really answers OP’s question as he is not asking about how to identify a fraudulent casino but he is interested to know the excuses they give to justify their scams.

Besides, scammers already know about this tactic. So, they will let you withdraw small amounts to gain your trust. Troubles usually arise when large amounts of money are involved.

This seems to be the same as what my friend experienced, where he got a small win and could easily withdraw the win without any problems, and indeed he himself had met the requirements such as fulfilling the KYC submitted by the casino. But when he got a big win and withdrew it he found a problem with his win that the casino had not approved or paid, waiting for a while losing patience he finally decided to communicate with the casino staff and for no apparent reason the staff said "your account has been frozen" this is annoying, but the funny thing is my friend tried to talk by saying that the win should be shared with him and the result that happened was that his account could be reopened but only half of the winnings were withdrawn.
With this case I was a little surprised why he froze my friend's account but when he said to divide his win in half the casino staff agreed, this was a little strange and annoying until my friend no longer visited the casino.

[Kakmakr]

The casinos will use "delay" tactics, when they operate a small operation to pay out large wins, because most of them does not have a good cashflow in the beginning.

They will put "restrictions" on large withdrawals and they will use the excuse that large withdrawals must be validated, before it can be paid out.    (Some casinos need time to dip into their long-term wallets in cold storage to pay out large wins and that takes time)

This provide them with enough time to collect more profits and to enable them to pay out the winnings. It is actually only the large casinos with a lot of cash reserves, that will allow immediate withdrawals. 

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Are there any sneaky tricks casino's use to not pay you out when if your not scamming?
What options do you have when they won't?
Thanks in advance.

Well, I'm crypto, "not your Keys, not your crypto" is a general rule that I believe applies to other areas of our financial activities as well, like when your money is already there on your account on a centralized casino, you as a gambler have lost custody to the money, you are at the mercy of the casino to pay you your money whenever and immediately you ask to be paid.

But just incase the casino comes up with an excuse as to why they cant pay your money, a reason must be stated which usually differs for different situations, I can't begin to mention some possible reasons here, but it's up to you as the gambler to evaluate the reason that the casino gave as to why they can't process your withdrawal request, tell yourself if they (the casino) are telling the truth or not, them telling a truth or lie will and should determine your next line of action, either to create a scam accusation against the casino on a forum where the casino have a large user base, or try to resolve the issue with them calmly and amicably.

[coin-investor]

Are there any sneaky tricks casino's use to not pay you out when if your not scamming?
What options do you have when they won't?
Thanks in advance.

Casinos will always point to violations of their terms of service, and the worst is when they change their terms of service without informing their players, like when they first created their terms of service and then changed their terms after a few months without notifying them.

This is one instance where they intentionally try to scam their players. This is a sneaky trick that players should be aware of so they will not caught violating their terms.

If you think you are playing clean and the casino does not want to pay out, creating a complaint on forums like Bitcointalk can help your case. Casinoguru and similar review platforms are also good options. The goal is to make it known to the casino that you want them to address your concerns.

[Beparanf]

making a test withdrawal would be recommendable before depositing big.

It’s a dumb idea, Even scammer casino allows player to withdraw small amount. They just use the scam card when players manage to win jackpot which is very rare to happened that’s why scammer casino can still get new customers since they do payout.

I think the simple answer to this problem is just play on reputable casino like Duelbits. A legit winnings will always processed quickly. Only those user that involves cheating and abuse suffer an investigation and possible confiscation of their winnings.

[mak013]

Mostly i was scammed by casino in two ways. Lots of KYC requirements with long expectation and "we have suspicions of a fixed match". It is enough for any casino. With fixed matches it is funny enough. One casino pay, the other one freeze money for 24 hours, the another one says it was fixed match and return the bet. Several gamblers said that they were banned for such bets. And casino mustn`t prove anything due to ToS.

You must be playing at untrusted casinos which are not reputed because if the casino is reputed they will never will hold your funds and will always release them and let you withdraw if you win the bet or any gambling game.

For the casino's who are not conserved about the reputations only they will do this tactics of not approving the KYC only to stop people from withdrawing or delay the withdrawal and all these stuff which will annoy the gamblers and they will not come back to such casino sites if they experience these problems.

Nope. It were both cryptocurrency and fiat casinos. The main part of them are well-known, several of them has ANN threads here. Even after KYC they returned me my money and made bet limit about $1-$5. It is standard situation for online casino when some gambler wins too often. Nobody cares about their face when on the other side common unknown gambler.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

making a test withdrawal would be recommendable before depositing big.

It’s a dumb idea, Even scammer casino allows player to withdraw small amount. They just use the scam card when players manage to win jackpot which is very rare to happened that’s why scammer casino can still get new customers since they do payout.

I think the simple answer to this problem is just play on reputable casino like Duelbits. A legit winnings will always processed quickly. Only those user that involves cheating and abuse suffer an investigation and possible confiscation of their winnings.

You have spoken well, and based on my own personal experiences, I very much agree with you, a friend of mine had once come across this new casino that was good looking, had very good varieties of games and comes with a very attractive sign-up bonus, he joined the casino, benefited from the bonus, and started playing on the casino by first depositing small amounts of money, they allows him to withdraw on countless occasions, he deposited and withdrawed several times without any issues, and because of this, he built a good trust on the casino and even proceeded to inviting all his gambling friends to the casino including myself.

After about 4 months of playing on the casino without any issues, he one day decided to make a deposit of $2500 to the casino, but as soon as the transaction was confirmed on his casino account, he was blocked access to his account, when he tried to chat customer support, he was immediately blocked too, he went to the casino's telegram group and immediately he posted his complaint, it was deleted and himself kicked out and blocked from joining the group again, this was when it dawned on him that he's been scammed, thank goodness that at this time, I havent even signed up on the said casino let alone playing there.
It turned out the scammers first made him trust the casino, and patiently waited for him to make a big deposit before they carry out their true intentions.

So, the safest way to be safe with casino is to only choose those that have proven their trustworthiness in a good test of time.

[batang_bitcoin]

Are there any sneaky tricks casino's use to not pay you out when if your not scamming?

Never have experienced that kind of delay from these casinos. But I wouldn't say that they intend to scam me if ever I'll have some delay because I only gamble in known casinos and I don't test out my luck with the newly launched casinos or those that are starting out their business.

What options do you have when they won't?
Thanks in advance.

What option you mean? if ever they won't pay me out? If it's an amount that I can afford to lose then I'll just let it go because I don't want to spend my time in countless arguments against their support if I've already did my best in disputing it. But if it's a large sum, I won't stop them until I get it when I know that I am in the right and never had broke any rules.

[bakasabo]

Are there any sneaky tricks casino's use to not pay you out when if your not scamming?
What options do you have when they won't?
Thanks in advance.

Lower the chances of letting this happen to you mate, and that's by

1. Using only highly reputable online casinos, stay away from casinos that are not available through this forum.
2. Go through the online casinos ToS (Terms of Services) before doing anything else.
3. If possible to pass KYC verifications before you start using the casino then do it, though some won't make it available until you win big.

I would stay away from using VPN services, things will get more complicated when you are asked to drop your information like national ID card and your location isn't the same as your information says, you will just make things a lot harder for yourself.

I know it sounds strange, but not always ToS has all the necessary information. Some years ago I have won in competition and received several freebets (some twitter competition). Some of them I have lost, some one, but when I have decided to withdraw, my withdrawal was pending for days. The reason for pending was wagering requirement, which was not stated in ToS and competition rules. I have found it only from a chat with support. The story ended with me loosing funds, because I have failed at wagering x5 my freebets (I had to wager x5 all 3 freebets of 1mbtc).

[Akbarkoe]

What options do you have when they won't?

Yes, verify the problem with the service if it does not provide an explanation directly, if they still do not provide an explanation then make a bad review of the casino that does not pay.

making a test withdrawal would be recommendable before depositing big.

This doesn’t really answers OP’s question as he is not asking about how to identify a fraudulent casino but he is interested to know the excuses they give to justify their scams.

Besides, scammers already know about this tactic. So, they will let you withdraw small amounts to gain your trust. Troubles usually arise when large amounts of money are involved.

Indeed, the amount of money is decisive in problems like this, the bigger the money you want to withdraw usually the more complicated it is, and fraudulent casinos will deliberately make it difficult for you to withdraw money.
Small money will only be bait.

[o48o]

Are there any sneaky tricks casino's use to not pay you out when if your not scamming?
What options do you have when they won't?
Thanks in advance.

I don't really buy any of these stories where people accuse trusted casinos for not paying for a bogus reason. It's always some ToS violation because no one seems to read the ToS, or "fixed game2 if they lost money. Fact is that there are ton of legit reasons people can lose their accounts for, there's just no reason to cancel accounts when they feel like it. It would be just bad business as trust and good customer service is something worth more than anything to these casinos.

And if you choose a shady casino, then there's really no matter what the reason is as it can be anything and they don't feel the need to explain themselves. And it's not like that would matter what they say, as there would be no point of arguing or proving your case to them.

If there has been an accusation for older casino, those usually get solved, but it's not like those people who threw accusations would have motivation to come back online and confirm that everything has been fixed. So there always will be few of them around.