The Fall Of The Casino:My Stake.com Experience

[KiaKia]

The fall of the casino? In your own world mate, not mine.

Just because their service isn't favourable to you doesn't mean it's the end of stake, their reputation is top notch and nothing at this time can stop them , Stake casino is one of the best out there.

How many people around you are using stake and having bad results? Because I know people that are using Stake and they are getting lucky, it is possible to not get lucky because gambling is all about lucky but all you can do is try another online casinos, if you are looking for something new you can try DGbet, I am currently wearing the signature.

A piece of advice, always expect too less when gambling,  a very popular casino won't intentionally make you win, gambling depends on your luck no matter which platform you are using.

[EarnOnVictor]

I'm sorry about your experience with Stake, notwithstanding, I can sense your bitterness towards the casinos due to your experience and this has certainly clouded your entire judgment. Stake.com is a huge name in the world of casinos and sports books and it beat the likes of bet365 and others in the last-sighted statistics judged by the visiting traffic, and the "majority can't be wrong" in selections like this.

Fine, there may be a few flaws, no company is perfect, especially the auto-response of support, this can be annoying but if you persist and follow the right channels, I am sure that you will get through to a human agent. You may also reach Stake through their emails and their social media handles, people often reach them, just find a way.

About the bonus, it's not peculiar to Stake as well, all companies do that, the more you patronise companies, the less likely you gain their favour for the bonus. I've seen abandoned accounts (not Stake) given free bonuses while the active ones had zero. The reason is that the bonuses are better designed to attract new customers and less active ones than the loyal/active ones, it's purely business gimmicks and not targeted to anyone. However, if you are determined about this grievance and it can get to the top hierarchy, they may specially compensate you as a loyal customer. But please, it's "May".

Similarly, the allegation of rigging is not new with casinos, you talked emotionally, so I understand. The certain fact is that some customers do not know how the business works, but it's fine. In casinos, we are playing against algorithms and the house will always have the upper hand. With this understanding, it is either you gamble casino or you leave it, it's the standard everywhere.

[henmark]

I’ve got not one, but two Platinum 1 accounts, both bursting with activity. You’d think that level of activity would earn me some some rewards. But guess who’s getting all the bonuses? Definitely not me.

While I understand your concerns and some or most of them might or might not be correct, I would say that you are not doing things the right way yourself. Why do you have two accounts in the first place? That is against the terms of services, and you can even get both your accounts banned if the management comes to know about this. So I think we should only complain about something when we are doing everything right ourselves which doesn't seem to be the case here.

If you have been active as much as you say, you should have done that with only one account, and the amount that you spent in both accounts should have been spent on one and you might not have this many complains. I'm not taking Stake's side, but I think going against the TOS is wrong.

The next thing is obviously me promoting my project, I admit

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I'm confused, your name and the name you have mentioned aren't matching with the link. The link says "bitraffs" while you are promoting it as Bitstrike. What's the catch?

[nakamura12]

If stakes fall then there won't be any advertisement from them and would lose many gamblers in the end but that's not what id happening. To tell you honestly, gambling isn't the right platform for you to grind day and night as you have said since most of the gamblers lose and only few of the gamblers win. If you don't like stake then you should find another platform that will satisfy you when gambling in that casino. Not that I am siding with stake but if you don't like it then you should leave since that's what I think the most ideal way to prevent what happened to you.

[alani123]

The moment you try to pursue rewards on a casino by being a high roller is the moment you lose.
Surely stake has to come up with better reward structures if they are swarmed by bots, but the point of bonuses is to compliment your play, not to fund players or enrich them.

Whenever I get a bonus I try to gamble it away in some more risky bets and 99.9% of the time I lose all of it. If I was not gambling I wouldn't have been receiving any bonus anyway. So for me giving the bonuses back and risking it only makes sense. But I would never try to compete for races because I don't like competitiveness when it comes to spending money. And I think it's unrealistic to expect anything back this way. Stake already gives out a lot through the rskeback and monthly/weekly bonus schemes.

But yeah overall surely a better alternative to races would be good. Maybe s lottery of something.

[Odusko]

The moment you try to pursue rewards on a casino by being a high roller is the moment you lose.
Surely stake has to come up with better reward structures if they are swarmed by bots, but the point of bonuses is to compliment your play, not to fund players or enrich them.

Whenever I get a bonus I try to gamble it away in some more risky bets and 99.9% of the time I lose all of it. If I was not gambling I wouldn't have been receiving any bonus anyway. So for me giving the bonuses back and risking it only makes sense. But I would never try to compete for races because I don't like competitiveness when it comes to spending money. And I think it's unrealistic to expect anything back this way. Stake already gives out a lot through the rskeback and monthly/weekly bonus schemes.

But yeah overall surely a better alternative to races would be good. Maybe s lottery of something.

That is the true Essence of bonuses  because the casino can't just gift you as a gambler free money, they give out those bonuses to encourage gambler into gambling more and as a give back rewards for previous wagers, that is why each bonus comes with a requirement to be meet to unluck it, will despite bonuses being money for more bets, it is also worthy to note that some gambler's could be lucky to win jackpot from such bonuses, and at some point making themselves rich from such a jackpot winning, and all that they need is to meet the wager requirements to get the winning out of the casino.
Stake.com is a big name in the cryptocurrency gambling market and at that won't be into just using bonuses to cheat player's but having strong structure that can put the site constantly at advantage over the gambler.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Let me talk about some of my frustrations. Imagine being an active player, grinding day and night, pouring time and money into a casino, and yet feeling completely invisible. That’s been my reality with Stake. I’ve got a Platinum 1 account bursting with activity. You’d think that level of activity would earn me some some rewards. But guess who’s getting all the bonuses? Definitely not me.

2 things I want to add. First of all, platinum 1 these days is not a high level, not even close. There is a reason they raised the bar to get a VIP host from platinum 1 to 2, then 3 and now it's 4 for a while already.
In the German chat for example around 70% or more have a platinum level. So while I admit, in the past bonuses and stuff have been better you must also admit that stake must go with the time. You can't give big rewards to players that "only" wagered between 250-500k life time, and you said you are with stake for quite a while now so these amounts are really not high. Stake has a huge player base with thousands of people that wager your life time wager within 1 month ( me included in the past month actually, but that was special ).

About your weekly/monthly, ok that's not normal. If you have a weekly activity of around 3000$ you should get a bonus of around 10-13$, not the "inactivity amount" of some cents. So if it's actually true what you are saying then there is a problem. It might be that they found out you have multiple account. About a year or so ago this was brought up on stream where people with good activity complained about getting 0.08$ weekly/monthly bonuses. Eddie explained they caught up on many players multi accounting and this was the result. This subject was also discussed on the stake forum by the way.

Anyway, times have been better and with growth this unfortunately always happens.  

[Russlenat]

Bonuses can be adjusted from time to time. It's normal that when a casino is just starting, they offer great bonuses as a way to attract gamblers. Now that they are already at the top, they might minimize those bonuses and be less aggressive with marketing. As a gambler who understands how it works, I wouldn't think their downfall is imminent. However, if you suspect that their games are rigged, that's a different story. You'll need to prove it because if it’s proven, that would certainly ruin their reputation, and they would likely fall quickly.

[stadus]

Stake support is certainly terrible. You just get scripted responses and they are not willing to answer any questions. I cannot put more than 2 DAI on sportsbook (see my post) yet I have a $200k DAI wagering requirement. So they've basically killed my account and there is no chance to withdraw...

Isn’t this the same with other casinos? I think that nowadays, with the large number of players, they prefer to automate their responses so they can reply faster. Unfortunately, some players might not be satisfied with their replies, just like you. It’s good that you brought this up, as I see it as a criticism that needs action, and hopefully, they’ll recognize it as a serious issue and work on improving it. But if not, and as long as they aren’t cheating their gamblers, they might just remain silent about what you’ve raised here.

[Beparanf]

Bonuses can be adjusted from time to time. It's normal that when a casino is just starting, they offer great bonuses as a way to attract gamblers. Now that they are already at the top, they might minimize those bonuses and be less aggressive with marketing. As a gambler who understands how it works, I wouldn't think their downfall is imminent. However, if you suspect that their games are rigged, that's a different story. You'll need to prove it because if it’s proven, that would certainly ruin their reputation, and they would likely fall quickly.

This is true on Stake case. There’s a significant drop on their bonuses especially the weekly and monthly. Their bonus doesn’t have a transparent formula that’s why it’s hard to come up with a computation for their bonus structure.

Most of the casino really decreases their bonus or make their bonus requirements extra hard in able to claim as part of decreasing expenses on bonuses. I’m not a regular at Stake so I can’t comment personally about the decrease on bonus and I just based my comment on many testimony of different user from their ANN thread.

Casino like Duelbits on the other hand has same VIP bonus structure ever since I start playing on this casino.

[TribalBob]

Actually your problem is not too complicated just because your bonuses say things that drop stakes. It's simple if you are not satisfied with the service, just move to another online gambling, there are many online gambling games.

[bitterguy28]

My username is Omnigoose


Stake.com has fallen hard and the people running it seem to not care for its players. We as players and regular customers feel betrayed and I’m left wondering how long I can keep playing at a casino that no longer feels like a casino at all.

There are tons of casinos that is waiting for a players like you so why need to stay in something that does not fit your taste and trust.

Maybe its something that you used to enjoy but for .me? never rely in single casino instead try more , there are so much other casinos has to offer.

I know Stake for long now and they are doing fine like normal casino that experience good and bad from their players .

[mak013]

As for me, i don`t see something unusual. All these problems are common for the main part of the casinos and, i think, the main part of gamblers.
The OP can try another casino to compare. The only difference i can suppose - would be lots of bonuses. But after several first days/weeks - it would be the same casino, like the stake or worse.

[Ultimatepoker]

Just sounds like you had a bad run there.
As for bonus’ it’s obvious that casinos use promos more aggressively towards non-active players. If your depositing 1-2 times a week you probably won’t get targeted for bonus’ all that often.

The best advice i can give you, as I am sure your rant is more to do with the fact you may have took a heavy loss, is take a break. There’s no shame in just taking a breather. Take a few weeks off and try again.

If you don’t like their support, and i am not saying they are perfect, than try a different casino, but i can tell you that there is a reason (and a justified one) why they are one of the biggest casinos in town. Most dont come even remotely close to them, especially with their weekly and monthly bonus’ and drops.

Casinos have much to learn from them in this regard.
So just take yourself a break. And hop back in at a later date.
If you still feel the same, try another casino. There are more casinos in bitcointalk than there are people so you shouldnt have a problem finding them.

Good luck

[Franctoshi]

About the bonus, it's not peculiar to Stake as well, all companies do that, the more you patronise companies, the less likely you gain their favour for the bonus. I've seen abandoned accounts (not Stake) given free bonuses while the active ones had zero. The reason is that the bonuses are better designed to attract new customers and less active ones than the loyal/active ones, it's purely business gimmicks and not targeted to anyone. However, if you are determined about this grievance and it can get to the top hierarchy, they may specially compensate you as a loyal customer. But please, it's "May".

On the perspective of getting attractive bonuses for a dormant account, This is true, there is these two casino platform that I no often use for quite some time now, one is indigenous casino platform in my country, whereas the other one, It was the first casino platform I started using when I joined this forum as a newbie, but I stopped using them as time goes on when I discovered there are more better and other reliable casino platform here to register and do business with.

If I'm to be you op, you should be more focused on wining than the bonuses you don't get.

[freedomgo]

If I'm to be you op, you should be more focused on wining than the bonuses you don't get.

Great advice, that's the main purpose of gambling, and although there are bonuses, those are just small amounts we can enjoy, like a coupon to reward our loyalty. Bonuses aren't really the obligation of a casino; they can be removed, changed, or altered immediately since they're just extras. I don't know how OP calls this the fall of Stake when this casino is one of the largest, if not the largest, in the crypto gambling industry, but he's entitled to his opinion, so we have to respect that.

[Outhue]

Gambling activities becomes a rigged one once you start getting bad luck and you see those close to you probably nailing it hard, if winning is the only thing that drives you to gamble do not do it, because the truth is you are going to get hurt many times over and over.

When bad luck takes over you will even think that something or someone used a bad juju on you, but nothing last forever, both good luck and bad luck don't go on forever, all you need to apply is common sense, don't run after what is based on luck because you can't tell what you will get, go the safer route.

For Stake dot com, I don't see anything wrong with the platform, I believe it is good and bad luck at play here, risk only what you can afford to lose and do not expect the good side all the time, that's why you need to always risk what you can see gone.

[shield132]

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[Ojima-ojo]

I have some funny experience sometimes back and it was on a sport games when the match ended with a time off of 90 minutes, and immediately I thought I won the bet, and the cash out feature taken off, thinking I will receive my winning, the game was added with a goal which make the bet have to end against my speculations.


At first, I thought that the match was rigged against my predictions but then I later saw that the other club equalize and I was place at lose.

[stomachgrowls]

Gambling activities becomes a rigged one once you start getting bad luck and you see those close to you probably nailing it hard, if winning is the only thing that drives you to gamble do not do it, because the truth is you are going to get hurt many times over and over.

When bad luck takes over you will even think that something or someone used a bad juju on you, but nothing last forever, both good luck and bad luck don't go on forever, all you need to apply is common sense, don't run after what is based on luck because you can't tell what you will get, go the safer route.

For Stake dot com, I don't see anything wrong with the platform, I believe it is good and bad luck at play here, risk only what you can afford to lose and do not expect the good side all the time, that's why you need to always risk what you can see gone.

A really very normal behavior of a certain individual on having this kind of approach on things on which we know that whenever a certain person or gambler would be losing up its bet that he had already anticipated
that it would that most likely a sure win then this is where they would be making up those kind of issues that the site is rigged or not fair or whatsoever. People would really be always loving on making up some issues
but the sad part on here is that they couldnt be able to provide out such evidence and they are really just that too tactful about the site is not fair or having those kind of complaints. This is why they do really make themselves looked laughable on the time or moment that they cant provide something that would justify their accusations.

As for Stake reputation then its one of the long time running casinos that we do have today or up to now running and having that good reputation too. There might be some issues but they were that fastly
been that resolved out and this is why its not really shocking that they are one of the most trusted and credible platforms that we do have today into this market. It cant really be just that avoided out
that there might be some real issues or complaints being raised. What matter most is that they are really that able to solve it out rather than on leaving it unresolved.
We do know that complaints and issues could neither be that true or just simply trolling. This is why we do see up these kind of scenarios and this is why its important on verifying everything first.