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October 24, 2024, 08:15:37 AM
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Hi all, I am wondering what the safest way to set up my jade wallet would be, is it air gapped ? Also is it best to use sparrow wallet ? Can sparrow wallet be used air gapped ? Or use nunchuck wallet or is there any safer options out there  I have previously used a ledger and from what I’ve heard it is best to get away from them. thank you.
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October 24, 2024, 08:22:32 AM
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Can sparrow wallet be used air gapped?

Yes!

You can have two Sparrow wallets, one on an air-gapped device and another that is watch-only, and use QR codes to put transactions from the airgapped wallet to the watch-only wallet.

This guide shows you how. Even though it is written with Airgap Vault in mind, you can also replace it with Sparrow Wallet as the software on an air-gapped computer, and use it like a regular wallet. https://support.airgap.it/guides/sparrow/

The Jade can also be used in air-gapped mode, you can use Nunchuk as the watch-only wallet in that case. https://help.blockstream.com/hc/en-us/articles/20347921365785-Send-air-gapped-bitcoin-transactions-with-Jade

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October 24, 2024, 08:50:28 AM
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Hi not a tether, just wondering is it safer to set it up with a watch only wallet ? I am new to this and seems a bit confusing haha, I looked at some videos where you can set it up airgapped with nunchuck Wallet but people are saying nunchuck can be compromised through the inheritance plan thing ?
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October 24, 2024, 08:55:38 AM
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Blockstream Jade is a good hardware wallet. It is also an airgapped hardware wallet.

As NotATether posted already, you can use Sparrow on airgapped device and watch-only wallet if you have a device that you can spare for it.

Alternatively, you can use Electrum: https://electrum.readthedocs.io/en/latest/coldstorage.html

Hi not a tether, just wondering is it safer to set it up with a watch only wallet ? I am new to this and seems a bit confusing haha, I looked at some videos where you can set it up airgapped with nunchuck Wallet but people are saying nunchuck can be compromised through the inheritance plan thing ?
Only multig is for the inheritance plan on Nunchuck. The inheritance plan has been the reason I have not been recommending the wallet.

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October 24, 2024, 08:56:59 AM
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Hi not a tether, just wondering is it safer to set it up with a watch only wallet ? I am new to this and seems a bit confusing haha, I looked at some videos where you can set it up airgapped with nunchuck Wallet but people are saying nunchuck can be compromised through the inheritance plan thing ?

Never heard about watch-only wallets.
For what they are for? - To look after another wallet, basically?

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October 24, 2024, 09:00:35 AM
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Never heard about watch-only wallets.
For what they are for? - To look after another wallet, basically?
If you import bitcoin address or addresses or master public key on a wallet, the wallet is a watch-only wallet. It has no private key or seed phrase that can generate the private key. So the wallet is not used for providing a signature for spending your coins. It is used for tracking your transactions. Also watch-only wallet are used for making unsigned transaction which can be sent to your cold wallet, signed on the cold wallet and then transferred back to the watch-only wallet or a broadcasting tool to broadcast the signed transaction.

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October 24, 2024, 09:10:54 AM
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Hi not a tether, just wondering is it safer to set it up with a watch only wallet ? I am new to this and seems a bit confusing haha, I looked at some videos where you can set it up airgapped with nunchuck Wallet but people are saying nunchuck can be compromised through the inheritance plan thing ?

Never heard about watch-only wallets.
For what they are for? - To look after another wallet, basically?

Watch-only wallets are like regular wallets but with the private keys stripped out. Only the public keys are there. This means that you can use the wallet to receive coins, but to spend them you have to create (another) normal wallet that contains private keys. And you use QR codes or USB drives to send transactions between them.

They are much, much safer when you are working with large amounts of Bitcoins which you won't want malware to touch.

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Can watch only wallets be made airgapped ? I am currently watching a video on how to set up sparrow wallet on YouTube and it’s showing the the private keys are generated through your computer ? Which I didn’t think was good to do. Is there any videos that you would know of on how to set the jade up with sparrow and a watch wallet ? Also do you think it’s holding bitcoin in a ledger ? Thanks

Also I might mention I want the wallet for long term holdling I won’t me making transactions out of this account

Would I still use a watch only wallet in this method thanks
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October 24, 2024, 09:25:16 AM
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Can watch only wallets be made airgapped ? I am currently watching a video on how to set up sparrow wallet on YouTube and it’s showing the the private keys are generated through your computer ? Which I didn’t think was good to do. Is there any videos that you would know of on how to set the jade up with sparrow and a watch wallet ? Also do you think it’s holding bitcoin in a ledger ? Thanks

Are you watching this video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AC4TwzgUvPw

It explains how to set up an airgapped Jade with Sparrow.

When you connect the Jade to the computer running Sparrow Wallet, it only imports the public keys from the Jade, not the private keys. So there's nothing special you have to do to make the Sparrow wallet watch-only - it's already like that when you connect any hardware wallet.

Just make sure your computer has a webcam attached to it, so that you can scan signed transactions from the Jade.

Also I might mention I want the wallet for long term holdling I won’t me making transactions out of this account

Would I still use a watch only wallet in this method thanks

Yes, because you don't want some random hackers to loot your bitcoins that are stored on a normal wallet.

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Hi not a tether, just wondering is it safer to set it up with a watch only wallet ? I am new to this and seems a bit confusing haha, I looked at some videos where you can set it up airgapped with nunchuck Wallet but people are saying nunchuck can be compromised through the inheritance plan thing ?

Never heard about watch-only wallets.
For what they are for? - To look after another wallet, basically?

Watch-only wallets are like regular wallets but with the private keys stripped out. Only the public keys are there. This means that you can use the wallet to receive coins, but to spend them you have to create (another) normal wallet that contains private keys. And you use QR codes or USB drives to send transactions between them.

They are much, much safer when you are working with large amounts of Bitcoins which you won't want malware to touch.

Thank you very much.
It's like a remote access wallet to rule the other wallets and not be caught in an attack or something  Grin

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I will watch the video you sent thethar thank you. Is that all I need to fully set it up with a watch wallet ? Also do I need to run a node ? Little bit confusing as someone who is not too tech savvy lol
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October 24, 2024, 12:09:11 PM
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I will watch the video you sent thethar thank you. Is that all I need to fully set it up with a watch wallet ? Also do I need to run a node ? Little bit confusing as someone who is not too tech savvy lol

No, you don't need to run a node to set up a watch-only wallet. This is all you need.

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Thanks tether sorry for all the questions just want to set it up once and get it right. As at the moment I set the jade up with nunchuck airgapped but don’t have any btc on it yet so will switch it. Is sparrow the best recommendation to use with a watch wallet or would blue wallet be better ? Thanks
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Thanks tether sorry for all the questions just want to set it up once and get it right. As at the moment I set the jade up with nunchuck airgapped but don’t have any btc on it yet so will switch it. Is sparrow the best recommendation to use with a watch wallet or would blue wallet be better ? Thanks

Sparrow only works on desktop platforms. Meanwhile, Bluewallet only has mobile apps for iOS and Android. (They also have a macOS app but I'm guessing you don't use macs.) So the choice comes down to whether you want your watch-only wallet to be on your phone/tablet or your computer.

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I would prefer to be able to see my btc on my phone to be honest unless it’s safer to just use the desktop? Is would I be better of using desktop over mobile or they are both the same ? If ones safer I would prefer the safest option. Also is a watch only wallet basically like ledger live app ? Thanks
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https://youtu.be/imMX7i4qpmg?si=mrSsSqU9T-v6hRgl Watching this video it shows that blue wallet generated a seed phrase through the app, if my phone say was compromised and someone could see this  seed phrase is that not dangerous ?
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https://youtu.be/imMX7i4qpmg?si=mrSsSqU9T-v6hRgl Watching this video it shows that blue wallet generated a seed phrase through the app, if my phone say was compromised and someone could see this  seed phrase is that not dangerous ?

You can import addresses or master public key on Bluewallet if you want to use it as a watch-only wallet. Watch-only wallets are normal wallets that does not have seed phrase or private key (which can be used to spend your coins).

If you want to use Bluewallet as an online wallet, you can generate the seed phrase on Bluewallet. It also support seed phrase and private key import. But that is an online wallet and it is not safe like cold wallet that the seed phrase or private key remin offline.

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I would prefer to be able to see my btc on my phone to be honest unless it’s safer to just use the desktop? Is would I be better of using desktop over mobile or they are both the same ? If ones safer I would prefer the safest option. Also is a watch only wallet basically like ledger live app ? Thanks

You cannot spend coins with just a watch-only wallet, so it is different from Ledger Live.

If your phone or computer gets hacked but there's only a watch-only wallet inside the program then nothing happens to your BTC as there are no private keys to steal. That's why it's useful.

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This is how I’ve originally set it up https://youtu.be/XVKsaPCe260?si=vFJMcDPdjtM60_Ji this isn’t set up as a watch wallet with nunchuck or it is ? Trying to find a video on YouTube that shows how to fully set it up with sparrow airgaped and with a watch wallet but can’t seem to find one 😫😂

I think I am getting my head around it slowly lol. So I can set up my jade airgapped using sparrow then from my sparrow account I can copy and paste the xpub numbers into blue wallet or nunchuck and it shows the balance ?
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I think I am getting my head around it slowly lol. So I can set up my jade airgapped using sparrow then from my sparrow account I can copy and paste the xpub numbers into blue wallet or nunchuck and it shows the balance ?
Yes, this is possible you can see the instructions and guides here[1][2], the exporting of xpub should be done on compatible wallet, never had used blue wallet and nonchunk but if they have importing feature, it's probably possible.

[1] https://help.blockstream.com/hc/en-us/articles/20272658303385-Air-gapped-Jade-Setup
[2] https://help.blockstream.com/hc/en-us/articles/20272957303577-Add-Jade-to-a-QR-supported-app

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