God bless stake.com and eddie and take care

[nutildah]

I think this discussion is pretty much over. It's OP against everyone else.

However, there are some flaws in your calculations. For example, you claimed to have played an optimal strategy, but I saw a screenshot where you stood on a hard 15 against a dealer’s 10. Plays like that significantly increase the house edge.

Additionally, it's unclear how Stake handles Blackjacks, doubles, and splits in your win/loss calculations. If these factors aren’t properly accounted for in the statistics, any conclusions drawn from them are unreliable.

Lastly, playing such a high number of hands guarantees losses over time. If you're truly into statistics and probabilities, why would you play so many hands of Blackjack when you know it’s a -EV game? The best way to maximize your chances is to bet big and play as few hands as possible—letting luck work in your favor.

If you had bet $50 per hand for 180,000 hands, you would have lost approximately $45,000 if you played optimal strategy and maintained the same bet size. However, if you always stood on a hard 15 or 16 against a dealer's 10, the house edge would increase to over 2.0%, meaning your total losses in the same scenario would be around $180,000.

It cannot possibly be made any clearer than this. Every time game-protect bumps this thread with some more horseshit, I will repost your post. Thanks for that.

Remember:
Those who defend illegal practices today might find themselves explaining their actions tomorrow. Think carefully about which side of history you want to be on.

🚫 This is not a request. This is a warning.

So you're threatening us now?

First, take a big step back. Then literally fuck your own face.

[Zwei]

there are 3 things in life you should never ask, a man salary, a woman age, and @BlackyJacky to explain to you how a casino house edge works.

It cannot possibly be made any clearer than this. Every time game-protect bumps this thread with some more horseshit, I will repost your post. Thanks for that.

no wonder he is that mentally ill, turned out he is THE game-protect.

i totally forgot about that shit stain since he got banned long ago. looking at his posts now, the resemblance is strong.

💥 Final Notice:
Stay out of this thread. Your platform's credibility isn't improved by bullying victims of illegal practices. Focus on your own issues instead of coordinating attacks on legitimate complaints.

Remember:
Those who defend illegal practices today might find themselves explaining their actions tomorrow. Think carefully about which side of history you want to be on.

🚫 This is not a request. This is a warning.

oh no, what are you gonna do about it? cry some more?

[noviesol]

Spare me the fake ‘analysis,’ noviesol. You’re not an arbiter of strategy—you’re a mouthpiece trying to discredit victims. Stood on 15 vs. 10 once? That’s your big ‘gotcha’? 🤡

Your ‘math’ ignores RTP manipulation, algorithmic bias, and Stake’s shady practices. This isn’t about my strategy—it’s about a rigged system.

And since you love statistics, here’s one: 100% of shills like you vanish when regulators step in. Stay in your lane. You’re no expert—just another Stake puppet.

I've never played on Stake, and I'm not a fan of the platform. Actually, I've lost thousands on other online casino platforms, particularly while playing Blackjack.

But in what world would a company generating over $2.5 billion in revenue risk everything by rigging their Blackjack Originals game? That could cost them their license and player base. They make far more money running a legitimate casino than engaging in shady practices. Even if they tweaked the odds slightly in their favor, they might gain a few million more—but at the risk of losing everything.

At this point, it’s clear you’re just a sore loser, obsessing over this for years—I’ve seen posts from you dating back two years. Accept the reality: you lost the money, and you’re not getting it back. No regulator is going to step in to help you; online casino regulators are some of the most passive entities in the industry. If you're holding onto hope that they’ll intervene, you’re only setting yourself up for more disappointment.

Instead of blaming the casino and attacking anyone who disagrees with you, maybe it’s time to move on. Because I haven't seen a single person supporting your statistics.

[BlackyJacky]

But in what world would a company generating over $2.5 billion in revenue risk everything by rigging their Blackjack Originals game?

Forbes says Stake generated a 4,7 billion USD Gross Gaming Revenue in 2024!

https://www.forbes.com/profile/bijan-tehrani/

How do they risk everything by rigging their in-house Black Jack?

That could cost them their license and player base.

The website stake.com does not have a license since November 1, 2024!

License

1) Their previous license issuer Antillephone was fine with stake.com running a provably rigged in-house Black Jack!

2) Their new partner in crime, the Curacao Gaming Control Board (GCB) is also fine with stake.com running a provably rigged in-house Black Jack and gave them a "Certificate of Operation" on November 1, 2024!

Player base

I inform (with proof) the public about Stake's provably rigged in-house Black Jack since December 2022, and nevertheless Stake was able to increase its Gross Gaming Revenue to 4,7 billion USD in 2024.

So no, their provably rigged in-house Black Jack could not cost them their player base.

They make far more money running a legitimate casino than engaging in shady practices.

We only have the numbers while Stake engages in shady practices!

How much money they would make if they would run a legitimate casino is pure speculation.

Even if they tweaked the odds slightly in their favor, they might gain a few million more—but at the risk of losing everything.

As explained above, Stake can do whatever it wants and they are not at the risk of losing everything.

The opposite is the case, their Gross Gaming Revenue is growing and growing.

[nutildah]

I've never played on Stake, and I'm not a fan of the platform.

The funny thing is neither have I, and can't say I'm a fan of them either.

Instead of blaming the casino and attacking anyone who disagrees with you, maybe it’s time to move on. Because I haven't seen a single person supporting your statistics.

The modus operandi here is to try to extort Stake by continuing to throw shit against the wall, attempting to damage their reputation in any way possible, with promises to stop if they are paid off. I don't blame Stake for completely ignoring them, as these attempts to conjure evidence against them are feeble at best.

Such a stupid business model. Maybe it worked for them once in the past. But without any sort of intellectual or honest reasoning in their arguments, its unlikely to work now. I'm guessing they have an infinite amount of time on their hands.

[BlackyJacky]

@nutildah

How does the casino collect the house edge?

Your partner in crime @AHOYBRAUSE is not able to explain it and your partner in crime @Zwei says the casino does not collect anything:

the casino doesn't "collect" anything, the house edge is a statistical advantage that guarantees profit for the casino over many many many bets.

Such a stupid business model.

Yes, it is a very stupid business model to ignore and state nonsense after your are caught with your provably rigged in-house Black Jack!

The user has reached out to the complaints department more than 30 times for the same inquiry.

We have provided the user with the requested information and guided them on validating the license in accordance with Antillephones' preferred procedures.

The User has also been attempting to claim that the 8048/JAZ license is invalid for cryptocurrencies.

Our system allows users to access their complete bet history from the date of registration, and there is no limit on the data storage.

All data stored under the "bet archive" and other sections of your account, are protected by our License, which we strictly adhere to.

For the Blackjack game, users can easily filter data in their bet archive spreadsheet.

Our licensing information and regulations have been transparently available on our website since Stake's inception.

Upon registration, the User acknowledges and accepts our Terms of Service which provide information the above and also provides this clearly.

Prior to using our services, it's crucial for users to comprehend the inherent risks associated with gambling, as winning cannot be guaranteed.

Regarding RTP, it's important to note that this figure is based on a calculation involving at least 1 million bets.

In short sessions with a few hundred or thousand bets, variability is expected, it is impossible to make accurate calculations based on these sessions.

Overall, the frivolous claims made by this User have been explained to them many times by Support and other members of the community:

https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=2178857.400.

It is clear to us that there are no ground for reimbursement.

How stupid a multi-billion USD profit online casino operation can be?

While the exact house edge applies only after 1 million bets, the law of great numbers determines the maximal possible deviation from the expected outcome based on the number of attempts.

And after 180,900 bets, the maximal possible deviation from the expected outcome is 0,4%.

0,5% advertised house edge plus 0,4% maximal possible deviation house edge = 0,9% maximal possible experienced house edge after 180,900 bets!

My experienced house edge 4,6% - 0,9% maximal possible experienced house edge = 3,7% ADDITIONAL house edge!

[nutildah]

Well, there you have it. Stake's explanation seems entirely reasonable.

The only thing unreasonable is your refusal to accept that your definition of "house edge" is wrong.

When it comes to Blackjack, house edge has nothing to do with the number of bets won and lost, but rather the average loss (in dollar amounts) incurred by a player after each bet, calculated by taking the average (dollar amount) loss over one million bets. That's how Stake "collects" their house edge. There, your question has been answered.

[BlackyJacky]

@nutildah

How does the casino collect the house edge?

When it comes to Blackjack, house edge has nothing to do with the number of bets won and lost, but rather the average loss (in dollar amounts) incurred by a player after each bet, calculated by taking the average (dollar amount) loss over one million bets. That's how Stake "collects" their house edge. There, your question has been answered.

You say the casino reduces the house edge from every bet?

[AHOYBRAUSE]

@nutildah

How does the casino collect the house edge?

When it comes to Blackjack, house edge has nothing to do with the number of bets won and lost, but rather the average loss (in dollar amounts) incurred by a player after each bet, calculated by taking the average (dollar amount) loss over one million bets. That's how Stake "collects" their house edge. There, your question has been answered.

You say the casino reduces the house edge from every bet?

How retarded are you?? Nobody is collecting house edge. House edge numbers just guarantee a min profit for the casino because of the reduced % in payouts. Instead of 2.0 you get 1.98 in odds for a 50/50 chance, that's where the house edge is. There is no collecting anything.
Jeez, you really are too stupid to understand the simplest things yet you are trying to put words in other people's mouths. Truly embarrassing!

[dimonstration]

As a blackjack player, I do feel sometimes that house blackjack is rigged due to the result that frequently bankroll wins but it’s really hard to prove that since everything is transparent through the use of probably fair system.

If you can back up your claim that the game fairness system is rigged then you should provide solid evidence that even an arbitrator like Casinoguru will be convinced.

Because there’s no point on arguing about the house edge if you are just relying to the stats of your result. Better to come up with proof about their fairness system technicality error.

[dimonstration]

If you can back up your claim that the game fairness system is rigged then you should provide solid evidence that even an arbitrator like Casinoguru will be convinced.

I stand by my claim, and here's the hard truth: I’ve been requesting full access to my betting data from Stake for the past 147 days under GDPR—data that would expose the true nature of their "provably fair" system. Despite my repeated, compliant requests, Stake has refused to provide this critical information.

This refusal isn’t a technical glitch—it’s a deliberate act of opacity that undermines any claim of fairness. Without access to the complete, unaltered records, even an independent arbitrator like Casinoguru would be left in the dark. The very act of withholding data speaks volumes: it’s proof that something is seriously amiss.

Until Stake complies, the evidence of their rigged system remains in plain sight. The lack of transparency and blatant non-compliance is the strongest evidence we have, and it only reinforces my claims.

Then why not Casinoguru request it to the casino instead of you if you have a lead that the Stake games really have a problem with their provably fair system because they will surely entertain you due to risk involved since Stake has a lot of customer.

IIRC Stake already mention that they already provided you data for your overall bets. I’m not really good technical aspect of the provably fair system.

[BlackyJacky]

@nutildah

How does the casino collect the house edge?

When it comes to Blackjack, house edge has nothing to do with the number of bets won and lost, but rather the average loss (in dollar amounts) incurred by a player after each bet, calculated by taking the average (dollar amount) loss over one million bets. That's how Stake "collects" their house edge. There, your question has been answered.

You say the casino reduces the house edge from every bet?

House edge numbers just guarantee a min profit for the casino because of the reduced % in payouts. Instead of 2.0 you get 1.98 in odds for a 50/50 chance, that's where the house edge is.

So you say at Black Jack the casino collects the house edge from bets won with reducing 2% from the amount won.

Betfury clownfish house edge summary

@nutildah: The casino collects the house edge from every bet.

@AHOYBRAUSE: The casino collects the house edge from bets won.

@Zwei: The casino does not collect anything = no house edge.

[nutildah]

@nutildah: The casino collects the house edge from every bet.

That's not what I said at all. How can they "collect a house edge" from a bet if the player wins a Blackjack? You don't even stop to think whether or not what you're writing makes any sense.

The house edge is the average loss of each bet across several bets. Some bets result in gains, some bets result in losses, and some bets are a push. The house edge is the average loss incurred by a player over several bets.

I really don't think there's a single person in the universe stupid enough to fall for your bullshit. In short, you suck at this.

[Cointxz]

Then why not Casinoguru request it to the casino instead of you if you have a lead that the Stake games really have a problem with their provably fair system because they will surely entertain you due to risk involved since Stake has a lot of customer.

Most probably he already brought up this case while the arbitrator itself instruct him to get more substantial evidence to prove his claim before they entertaining issue like this.

He is persistent on proving his conclusion while It’s odd that he can’t gain support by an arbitrator if he really have something solid.

[BlackyJacky]

Because there’s no point on arguing about the house edge if you are just relying to the stats of your result. Better to come up with proof about their fairness system technicality error.

Stake's own statistics saying that I experienced an ADDITIONAL 3,7% house edge on top of the maximal possible 0,9% experienced house edge is PERFECT PROOF that their in-house Black Jack is rigged!

As a blackjack player, I do feel sometimes that house blackjack is rigged due to the result that frequently bankroll wins but it’s really hard to prove that since everything is transparent through the use of probably fair system.

I’m not really good technical aspect of the provably fair system.

If you are not really good technical aspect of the provably fair system, you are not qualified to claim that everything is transparent through the use of probably fair system!

[nutildah]

I'm breaking my own rule by responding to your AI-generated idiocy, which I vowed to stop doing, but people need to know why its nonsense. And frankly I don't even know how you tricked AI into writing fake bullshit for you, but you did, so congrats on that.

• Forced Hits & Busts: Their system can pressure you into hitting more often, increasing busts.

OK, how? You can't just spout nonsense claims with nothing to back them up and then expect anybody to believe you.

• No Counterplay: When you bust, the house doesn’t even need to draw—your bet is already lost.

No shit sherlock. That is how Blackjack has always worked.

• Winning Streaks Don’t Offset Losses: Even an 8-win streak can’t outpace the built-in advantage of you busting first.

True, that's part of the house edge. This has been known for 70+ years.

Give it a rest. Nobody's paying you one rupee. Just stop gambling.

[BlackyJacky]

The real issue is AML violations, tax evasion, and money laundering.

Do you want your loss back because Stake commits the criminal offenses of AML violations, tax evasion and money laundering or do you want your loss back because Stake's in-house Black Jack is provably rigged?

[BlackyJacky]

Stake’s entire operation is built on fraud:

• They force illegal UPI deposits from Indian players, evading taxes and funneling money through offshore channels.

Who is the regulator for the illegal UPI deposits?

How did Stake force you to do illegal UPI deposits?

[BlackyJacky]

Moreover, an unlisted video (view it here) shows exactly how the process is manipulated.

Stake: "Welcome to stake.com, your premier platform for online banking! 

Made my day!

[BlackyJacky]

Some interesting info from @holydarkness

Info 1)

Stake scans this board!

Though they barely address matters here, this board is routinely scanned by one of their representative who then forward the matter to their complaint team. So, quite likely, their team has been made aware of this thread. Hopefully, they can overturn what "can't be overturn" by their live support.

Info 2)

If you did nothing wrong, Casino Guru will make a fair ruling Stake will follow!

Otherwise, as you've escalate to CG, and if you did nothing wrong, you can rest assured that CG will find and made a ruling that Stake's decision is unacordingly, and most likely than not, Stake will comply to CG's ruling.

Wait, Casino Guru closed my complaint about Stake's provably rigged in-house Black Jack!