Noah (Shuffle) stole $20m from FTX after bankruptcy to start Shuffle

[kairos1829]

Shuffle was build using stolen and tainted funds from FTX.

Examples of withdrawals after FTX blocked access for other customers:
https://etherscan.io/tx/0x9b40569a3c06d3dd9c878126ab1ae6750334edeaa6a655c400c3c698a31b8cd4
https://etherscan.io/tx/0x496b89e85aa0a55b6b854941b814d7f2702b1ed12902dc9adcf55134cf254a03
https://etherscan.io/tx/0xefa96c8cc3fdcb417a9560043d711910d3846d6ef5a5fd63447b2b30412b5b8b

Go to this page and you can see the $20m being taken in $50k chunks so that onchain watchers dont catch him:
https://etherscan.io/tokentxns?a=0xcd6cf78b351d82c8355f14c6af62f3751cdaaffe&p=9

Proof that this is his wallet as he funds the Shuffle company wallet with this:
https://etherscan.io/tx/0xe1150fb56582889921e739e61fdfc1ffa65152b54e3b02b67eb526fdf5cd0479
https://etherscan.io/tx/0x68f49704eba64392c0743c5f7ecae0accb4b0467b6c4847a40a9c8cab466df21 (before they launched)

[Free Market Capitalist]

Does that guy have an account on the forum? As far as I know, in this section we talk about people's reputation on this forum, people who can end up being tagged. But since Shuffle is a company that advertises on the forum I guess this thread is not entirely out of place, although I don't know if it would be better placed in Scam Accusations.

I leave the shitcoin transaction analysis to the experts.

[FinneysTrueVision]

The FTX wallet had thousands of outgoing transfers on the same date the supposed Shuffle wallet received $20 million. SBF tweeted on that day that FTX was working to clear their withdrawal backlog. There is nothing shady about removing funds from a collapsing exchange.

https://x.com/SBF_FTX/status/1590012126701441025

[kairos1829]

The FTX wallet had thousands of outgoing transfers on the same date the supposed Shuffle wallet received $20 million. SBF tweeted on that day that FTX was working to clear their withdrawal backlog. There is nothing shady about removing funds from a collapsing exchange.

https://x.com/SBF_FTX/status/1590012126701441025

The only withdrawals that happened was Bahamas that FTX allowed to withdraw which is the transactions you see.

Some ppl illegally used Bahamas KYC to get funds out. Is that what Noah did? See these https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/ys6g9m/another_day_another_story_ftx_was_allegedly/
If this is what Noah did, he should be prosecuted too.

No one else could withdraw after that SBF tweet you linked because the ftx sale to binance never went through

[JollyGood]

What prompted you to create this thread a day after signing up to register? Are you someone that has personal contact with Noah, any Shuffle employees or FTX ex-employees?

Anyway, in order for those reading this thread to have a better understanding, it would be better if you would be specific about your allegation. Is it about Shuffle the company or the individual (Noah) or both?

Shuffle was build using stolen and tainted funds from FTX.

[yahoo62278]

What prompted you to create this thread a day after signing up to register? Are you someone that has personal contact with Noah, any Shuffle employees or FTX ex-employees?

Anyway, in order for those reading this thread to have a better understanding, it would be better if you would be specific about your allegation. Is it about Shuffle the company or the individual (Noah) or both?

Shuffle was build using stolen and tainted funds from FTX.

I'm not sure, but I think it's possibly an alt of the guys making the scam accusations against shuffle recently. I don't know if they're all the same person or what, but it seems odd that everyone shows up within a week or so of each other making claims.

Pretty sure the feds dug deep with the whole FTX case. I'm almost positive every transaction was looked at and everyone who could be prosecuted was.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Shuffle was build using stolen and tainted funds from FTX.

Examples of withdrawals after FTX blocked access for other customers:
https://etherscan.io/tx/0x9b40569a3c06d3dd9c878126ab1ae6750334edeaa6a655c400c3c698a31b8cd4
https://etherscan.io/tx/0x496b89e85aa0a55b6b854941b814d7f2702b1ed12902dc9adcf55134cf254a03
https://etherscan.io/tx/0xefa96c8cc3fdcb417a9560043d711910d3846d6ef5a5fd63447b2b30412b5b8b

Go to this page and you can see the $20m being taken in $50k chunks so that onchain watchers dont catch him:
https://etherscan.io/tokentxns?a=0xcd6cf78b351d82c8355f14c6af62f3751cdaaffe&p=9

Proof that this is his wallet as he funds the Shuffle company wallet with this:
https://etherscan.io/tx/0xe1150fb56582889921e739e61fdfc1ffa65152b54e3b02b67eb526fdf5cd0479
https://etherscan.io/tx/0x68f49704eba64392c0743c5f7ecae0accb4b0467b6c4847a40a9c8cab466df21 (before they launched)

Who is paying you to spread the propaganda? What is your motive?
Let me guess, a competitor of Shuffle, a forum member who have issue with Shuffle or you were caught while abusing their system and now you are butthurt.

Which one?

I'm not sure, but I think it's possibly an alt of the guys making the scam accusations against shuffle recently.

That's even more fishy and creates a doubt to the main scam accusation. When there is a legit scam accusation then a person don't need alt accounts to spread propaganda.

[JollyGood]

I'm not sure, but I think it's possibly an alt of the guys making the scam accusations against shuffle recently. I don't know if they're all the same person or what, but it seems odd that everyone shows up within a week or so of each other making claims.

I would not be surprised if it was the same person using multiple accounts, that is my initial feeling but I might be wrong. Having said that, all he has done here is provide alleged links to transactions citing theft/movement from FTX to Shuffle. His links might (or might not) be accurate but he should explain why government investigators did not make a link between Shuffle and FTX.

Pretty sure the feds dug deep with the whole FTX case. I'm almost positive every transaction was looked at and everyone who could be prosecuted was.

That is what I alluded to in the other thread about Shuffle/Noah but the OP of that thread was adamant he was going to take matters as far as he could via a legal process until or unless he received a financial payment that he claims he is entitled to. It is safe to assume when FTX collapsed every aspect of the company would have been investigated and if there was anything untoward the investigators have  found it.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

If they were his funds then finding a way to withdraw them is totally fine. I remember reading on X, one guy who had millions in crypto not being able to withdraw. Apparently people who had a Bahamas passport or ID were still able to withdraw so he was advertising, seeking out somebody who could help him.

Somebody must have sent him an ID because he withdrew and was actually telling people he could get their money out too.

He was charging them $0.90 on the dollar to withdraw peoples funds which is actually kinda sleazy but $0.10 on the dollar is better than nothing I guess. Pretty sure the Feds were looking for him after that.

[kairos1829]

What prompted you to create this thread a day after signing up to register? Are you someone that has personal contact with Noah, any Shuffle employees or FTX ex-employees?

Anyway, in order for those reading this thread to have a better understanding, it would be better if you would be specific about your allegation. Is it about Shuffle the company or the individual (Noah) or both?

Shuffle was build using stolen and tainted funds from FTX.

I am unhappy with at Shuffle and at Noah. I have nothing to do with other people posting here but want to use this as a chance to put pressure on Noah and Shuffle to not be assholes to those that helped build them. Cant reveal identity as Ive seen what theyve done to peoples accounts and airdrop if they dont like them. Not playing on this shit website after i get my airdrop anyway.

Also, taking money from ftx with fake bahamas id is illegal (ironic he is banning people for this on shuffle when he did the same) and i want him to know that ppl know so he doesnt fuck around with us so much.

[JollyGood]

If they were his funds then finding a way to withdraw them is totally fine. I remember reading on X, one guy who had millions in crypto not being able to withdraw. Apparently people who had a Bahamas passport or ID were still able to withdraw so he was advertising, seeking out somebody who could help him.

This is a new story for me, I did not know about that and would not have even thought it was possible either. Just because Bankman-Fried was living in The Bahamas at the time it should not have given the right for one set of passport holders to have access to funds whereas other investors were treated as less privileged.

Having said that, if there was any truth in the allegation I doubt any ex-employee of FTX would have withdrawn $20 million of their own money as they probably would not have made that much. Also, I doubt they would have stolen $20 million from FTX because the investigators would have followed the trail.

I am unhappy with at Shuffle and at Noah. I have nothing to do with other people posting here but want to use this as a chance to put pressure on Noah and Shuffle to not be assholes to those that helped build them. Cant reveal identity as Ive seen what theyve done to peoples accounts and airdrop if they dont like them. Not playing on this shit website after i get my airdrop anyway.

Also, taking money from ftx with fake bahamas id is illegal (ironic he is banning people for this on shuffle when he did the same) and i want him to know that ppl know so he doesnt fuck around with us so much.

You created this thread but what is the end game here?

If you claim you are posting here to put pressure on Noah and Shuffle to make payments to those that maybe were not given what they were owed, what will you do after you realise posting here about them is not helping your cause? Do you intend to keep posting in order to apply the pressure you mentioned or will you take legal action?

[BenCodie]

Can someone please enlighten me as to why the on-chain proof is being doubted in this thread?

Is it insufficient?

Looks like a pretty damn big revelation here and considering it's all on-chain....

[yahoo62278]

Can someone please enlighten me as to why the on-chain proof is being doubted in this thread?

Is it insufficient?

Looks like a pretty damn big revelation here and considering it's all on-chain....

No-one is denying the fact that some transactions happened. What is being said is if these transactions were illegal, the feds would have already investigated it and this Noah guy would be sitting in a cell. When the whole SBF fiasco happened and they arrested him and his girl who turned on him, don't ya think that every single transaction would have been looked at? I'm sure that part of his deal was he had to give full details of every transaction from the FTX wallets.

This guy just posted some transactions and said they were this or that hoping for some leverage on a casino. Why? Trying to get his affiliate pay. I am assuming this OP and the OP of this thread are the same person. Just a hunch.

Regardless of whether they are the same person or not, the feds would have someone in jail over 20 million. He wouldn't be operating a casino if all this was true and he took 20 million illegally.

[kairos1829]

If they were his funds then finding a way to withdraw them is totally fine. I remember reading on X, one guy who had millions in crypto not being able to withdraw. Apparently people who had a Bahamas passport or ID were still able to withdraw so he was advertising, seeking out somebody who could help him.

This is a new story for me, I did not know about that and would not have even thought it was possible either. Just because Bankman-Fried was living in The Bahamas at the time it should not have given the right for one set of passport holders to have access to funds whereas other investors were treated as less privileged.

Having said that, if there was any truth in the allegation I doubt any ex-employee of FTX would have withdrawn $20 million of their own money as they probably would not have made that much. Also, I doubt they would have stolen $20 million from FTX because the investigators would have followed the trail.

I am unhappy with at Shuffle and at Noah. I have nothing to do with other people posting here but want to use this as a chance to put pressure on Noah and Shuffle to not be assholes to those that helped build them. Cant reveal identity as Ive seen what theyve done to peoples accounts and airdrop if they dont like them. Not playing on this shit website after i get my airdrop anyway.

Also, taking money from ftx with fake bahamas id is illegal (ironic he is banning people for this on shuffle when he did the same) and i want him to know that ppl know so he doesnt fuck around with us so much.

You created this thread but what is the end game here?

If you claim you are posting here to put pressure on Noah and Shuffle to make payments to those that maybe were not given what they were owed, what will you do after you realise posting here about them is not helping your cause? Do you intend to keep posting in order to apply the pressure you mentioned or will you take legal action?

Bankman-Fried was afraid of ppl in Bahamas attacking him so he let ppl with Bahamas ID withdraw. This caused many people to illegally use Bahamas id to also get their money.

My guess is the money belong to the shuffle founder but once withdrawal is closed, the money belongs to all ftx creditors and taking it with fake id is illegal when others couldn't withdraw.

I have nothing to do with person in other thread and left that thread as didnt want to bother her personal issue with this but it is def an example of things shuffle are doing to its players now.

[FinneysTrueVision]

Can someone please enlighten me as to why the on-chain proof is being doubted in this thread?

Is it insufficient?

Looks like a pretty damn big revelation here and considering it's all on-chain....

If there was something illegal happening, I am sure they would have done a much better job of covering their tracks rather than having a direct connection from $20 million in FTX withdrawals and Shuffle’s wallet. They could have tried laundering the funds through Tornado Cash or an instant exchange before funding the Shuffle wallet, instead they left everything out in the open.

There is no evidence that anything was stolen from FTX or that Bahamian documents were used by Noah of Shuffle to bypass withdrawal restrictions. There is only evidence that FTX processed tens of thousands of withdrawals in their final days in operation, among them being withdrawals to a wallet connected to Shuffle. If Noah had an account at FTX and was legally entitled to the $20 million that was withdrawn, this is a nothingburger of a story.

There have been many newbie accounts all making similar claims that Shuffle’s owner was involved in illegal activity associated with FTX, however none of these accounts have been able to provide clear evidence. There is only conjecture based on cherry picked pieces of information that are presented misleadingly or out of context.

[MandyShutup]

Can someone please enlighten me as to why the on-chain proof is being doubted in this thread?

Is it insufficient?

Looks like a pretty damn big revelation here and considering it's all on-chain....

No-one is denying the fact that some transactions happened. What is being said is if these transactions were illegal, the feds would have already investigated it and this Noah guy would be sitting in a cell. When the whole SBF fiasco happened and they arrested him and his girl who turned on him, don't ya think that every single transaction would have been looked at? I'm sure that part of his deal was he had to give full details of every transaction from the FTX wallets.

This guy just posted some transactions and said they were this or that hoping for some leverage on a casino. Why? Trying to get his affiliate pay. I am assuming this OP and the OP of this thread are the same person. Just a hunch.

Regardless of whether they are the same person or not, the feds would have someone in jail over 20 million. He wouldn't be operating a casino if all this was true and he took 20 million illegally.

Woah, I am glad I went searching on this forum because I almost missed this. Dude I literally have a video of myself on twitter. My story is real. I don't know who these people obsessed with FTX are, I don't care. I just want my stuff to be taken care of and frankly it's annoying to have people making my shit look like part of a conspiracy.

Video of me...
https://x.com/BeCoolMandy/status/1854854785746554886

[kairos1829]

Can someone please enlighten me as to why the on-chain proof is being doubted in this thread?

Is it insufficient?

Looks like a pretty damn big revelation here and considering it's all on-chain....

If there was something illegal happening, I am sure they would have done a much better job of covering their tracks rather than having a direct connection from $20 million in FTX withdrawals and Shuffle’s wallet. They could have tried laundering the funds through Tornado Cash or an instant exchange before funding the Shuffle wallet, instead they left everything out in the open.

There is no evidence that anything was stolen from FTX or that Bahamian documents were used by Noah of Shuffle to bypass withdrawal restrictions. There is only evidence that FTX processed tens of thousands of withdrawals in their final days in operation, among them being withdrawals to a wallet connected to Shuffle. If Noah had an account at FTX and was legally entitled to the $20 million that was withdrawn, this is a nothingburger of a story.

There have been many newbie accounts all making similar claims that Shuffle’s owner was involved in illegal activity associated with FTX, however none of these accounts have been able to provide clear evidence. There is only conjecture based on cherry picked pieces of information that are presented misleadingly or out of context.

Shuffle didnt exist at the time so he sent there. I give evidence of Noah withdrawing when other ppl cant and he isn't from Bahamas as far as I know. Wouldnt you want to know from him how he withdrew?

I am going to leave this discussion anyway and report it if things dont change at shuffle

[Russlenat]

You should report this to the authorities, but honestly, I doubt the accusation is true. Authorities are smarter than you think and have been investigating such matters for years. Plus, Shuffle has a valid license to operate, which means they’re not involved in any illegal activities. Your post just seems like an attempt to damage the casino’s reputation. And even if there’s some truth to it, this isn’t the right place to post since there’s no solid validation yet.

To be honest, I’d take it more seriously if it didn’t come from a newbie. It just feels like a waste of time since it’s clear you’re not getting support here to condemn Shuffle for something unproven. Let me guess, you probably lost big at the casino, didn’t you?

[FinneysTrueVision]

I give evidence of Noah withdrawing when other ppl cant and he isn't from Bahamas as far as I know. Wouldnt you want to know from him how he withdrew?

Clearly many people were able to withdraw. You can see the analytics for FTX’s wallet on Etherscan and see that the days before they declared bankruptcy were their busiest ever for outgoing token transfers

[JollyGood]

Regardless of whether they are the same person or not, the feds would have someone in jail over 20 million. He wouldn't be operating a casino if all this was true and he took 20 million illegally.

That was my sentiment too.

If there was $20 million missing or illegally withdrawn by a US citizen living that lives in the USA and has registered a company there to operate his online casino, he would have been arrested and charged.

There is always a possibility he was questioned by authorities on the basis he was an ex-employee of FTX like many others that were employed and interviewed before FTX collapsed but it seems the OP is convinced he found damning evidence yet the authorities that investigated have found nothing. That in itself speaks volumes about the chances of scam taking place by the current owner of Shuffle.

Bankman-Fried was afraid of ppl in Bahamas attacking him so he let ppl with Bahamas ID withdraw. This caused many people to illegally use Bahamas id to also get their money.

Is there any evidence for this claim in the form of news articles from reputable sources such as major networks?

My guess is the money belong to the shuffle founder but once withdrawal is closed, the money belongs to all ftx creditors and taking it with fake id is illegal when others couldn't withdraw.

You have not provided any evidence for this to be the case, you are stating it is your guess.

My advice to you would be collate any and all data that you deem to be evidence and then send it to the authorities. If there is any merit in what you claim they will investigate it thoroughly. If they dismiss it, you can say to yourself you tried your best and leave it at that.