Trump wants to take over Gaza

[tainted_love]

Trump plans to take over the Gaza strip, indicating he wants to displace the Palestinians that live there.




I voted for Trump, well mostly because the alternative was a fucking stoned lunatic.  But partially because I saw him as anti-war.  I'm tired of sending America's young men to die in the Middle East.  I'm tired of politicians laundering my tax dollars so they and their friends can get rich off of brown people's blood.  I'm tired AIPAC controlling 90% of our national elected officials, and large portion of the elected officials in our largest states.

I'm tired of being ZOG'd!

This is latest announcement is not what I voted for.  He claim's he's not going send troops to Gaza, but how the fuck does he expect Hamas to react to a bunch of Mexican construction workers showing up on their shores?  What makes Trump think the Mexican construction workers want any of that noise?

Most American's who are brainwashed by the Jewish owned media are quick to call Hamas a terrorist group.  Well, maybe they are, but if someone wanted to kick me out of my house, off of my land, out of my country, I would be more than willing to behave just like Hamas and could only dream of emulating their success.

For decades Hamas, and other Palestinians before them have held off one of the most technologically advanced armies history has ever seen.  They make the Vietcong look like children playing hide-and-seek.  There's no way they're just going to hand over Gaza without a fight.  After the Palestinians have been their, fighting for their homes for the last 77 years, he thinks he'll talk them into going somewhere else because he flashes some shiny object in front of their eyes?  After spending billions to fund the genocide of their people?

I have a simpler solution: Stop funding Israel, and let the Palestinians and Israelis have a fair fight until one of them gives up.

[paxmao]

It is Israel's wet dream. The Palestinians going out - mass deported - and then the strip becomes a building place for the rich that are tired of paying Tel-Aviv prices.

My first thought is that this may be one of those Trump "negotiating positions" to persuade the Saudis and other about collaborating on oil prices and all that.

Apart, there is an obvious question about the rights of Palestinians to live in Palestine, but I guess Trump is not really into paying attention to little details that can be solved simply using force. If we skip over the moral side of this, the plan is probably not doable in practice. Too risky, too expensive, too prone to creating terrorist threats that are also expensive to control.

What I find useful in all this is that at least everyone involved have made a true "selfie" of themselves, where they stand, what they think and what they'd like to do. At least the hypocrisy and the more or less "justified" ops or covert attacks are now not even "justified".

[suchmoon]

I voted for Trump, well mostly because the alternative was a fucking stoned lunatic.

That's some solid policy homework you've done and it seems like you got exactly what you voted for.

But partially because I saw him as anti-war. I'm tired of sending America's young men to die in the Middle East.  I'm tired of politicians laundering my tax dollars so they and their friends can get rich off of brown people's blood.

Literally NO PROOF WHATSOEVER exists of Trump being this imaginary anti-war anti-tax-dollar-laundering hero you want him to be, and plenty of proof - from Trump's first term, from people he surrounds himself with, from his illiterate off-prompter ramblings, etc - of him being an unhinged greedy racist sociopath wannabe-king. You're either a terrible liar or exceptionally dumb, if you think you can spin it as some sort of shocking surprise that he insists on invading Panama or Gaza.

[tainted_love]

I voted for Trump, well mostly because the alternative was a fucking stoned lunatic.

That's some solid policy homework you've done and it seems like you got exactly what you voted for.

She's either high as a fucking kite on that California Chronic all the time, or she's really that stupid naturally.  Makes no difference.  My policy homework is the track record of the last 4 years.  She's done absolutely nothing other than stick up for the failed policies of her boss.  Her Border Czar title was just another Democrat Party oxymoron.  Like everything else the Democrats do, the name applied is the opposite of the (intended or unintended) end result.  I'll take this opportunity to remind you of the Affordable Care Act...

But partially because I saw him as anti-war. I'm tired of sending America's young men to die in the Middle East.  I'm tired of politicians laundering my tax dollars so they and their friends can get rich off of brown people's blood.

Literally NO PROOF WHATSOEVER exists of Trump being this imaginary anti-war anti-tax-dollar-laundering hero you want him to be, and plenty of proof - from Trump's first term, from people he surrounds himself with, from his illiterate off-prompter ramblings, etc - of him being an unhinged greedy racist sociopath wannabe-king. You're either a terrible liar or exceptionally dumb, if you think you can spin it as some sort of shocking surprise that he insists on invading Panama or Gaza.

Literally no wars started under his first administration is proof enough, or at least I thought it was.  He's the first president since JFK that can make that claim, or at least he was until yesterday.  Maybe he still can be, I don't know.

There was a time when Liberals were thought to be anti-war and Conservatives were thought to be blood thirsty.  Doesn't the roller coaster ride get tiresome?  I consider myself neither, because division is their game, and I refuse to play.

[pooya87]

To be fair the genocide of Palestinians didn't start a month ago with Trump, it has been going on for almost 8 decades and all US presidents have supported it one way or the other. So what Trump recently said is not even new, that has been the plan ever since the terrorist organization named Israel was created. Trump is just delusional enough to think his words/tweets change anything in real world!

As for the relationship and your poll question, it is more complicated than that. US regime sees Israeli terrorists as its proxy that is used to further its plans in West Asia including destabilization so that they intervene militarily and occupy energy rich regions and steal the oil and gas like what they have been doing in Syria and Iraq over the past ~20 years.
Meanwhile the Zionist terrorists have been using US like a parasite does and treat it as a host that has to continue feeding them to ensure their survival. This is how they see Americans not just the president:

Over the years, the Israeli leader has developed a reputation among the staff at the U.S. president’s guesthouse for bringing special cargo on his trips to Washington: bags and suitcases full of dirty laundry, according to U.S. officials familiar with the matter.

"The Netanyahus are the only ones who bring actual suitcases of dirty laundry for us to clean," said one U.S. official,....
"After multiple trips, it became clear this was intentional."

In other words the head of this terrorist organization has been intentionally humiliating Americans for many years while taking billions of dollars of American taxpayers money every year...

[liebefreund]

This is the most humane solution.

[Die_empty]

She's either high as a fucking kite on that California Chronic all the time, or she's really that stupid naturally.  Makes no difference.  My policy homework is the track record of the last 4 years.  She's done absolutely nothing other than stick up for the failed policies of her boss.  Her Border Czar title was just another Democrat Party oxymoron.  Like everything else the Democrats do, the name applied is the opposite of the (intended or unintended) end result.  I'll take this opportunity to remind you of the Affordable Care Act...

In terms of human face or compassionate policy in Palestine, I think Kamala Harris would have been better than Trump. It is not only you that is disappointed with his current policies, he received massive votes from the Muslim communities in the US. Trump promised that the war in Gaza would end if he became president. I am sure they wouldn't have voted for him if he had informed them that they would become permanent refugees after the war.

Handing over Gaza to the US is giving it to Israel. Palestinians should not be deceived that their evacuation from the land will be temporary. They have lost their land forever if they believe the sweet words of these conmen. They should remain in Gaza and fight because it is better to live in shanties in ghettos in your land than to live beggarly in another country.

[rodskee]

This is latest announcement is not what I voted for.

trump has always been talking about making america great again and bringing it back to its old days glory and is this not exactly what usa used to be? take countries from other colonizers for them to colonize themselves? my country was a personal victim of the us it seems like they are just going back to their roots

I have a simpler solution: Stop funding Israel, and let the Palestinians and Israelis have a fair fight until one of them gives up.

but the thing is usa wants the benefits of the gaza strip he wants to fund israel because there is something they are getting out of it and if the land is their well i am not sure what he plans to do with it but i am sure he will consider it beneficial

[Marseliesa]

It's good that Trump came to power. Finally, there will be order, that's what I understand as a superpower!

[suchmoon]

I'll take this opportunity to remind you of the Affordable Care Act...

Yeah let's bring back lifetime maximums and pre-existing conditions, enough of this communism.

Literally no wars started under his first administration is proof enough, or at least I thought it was.  He's the first president since JFK that can make that claim, or at least he was until yesterday.  Maybe he still can be, I don't know.

There was a time when Liberals were thought to be anti-war and Conservatives were thought to be blood thirsty.  Doesn't the roller coaster ride get tiresome?  I consider myself neither, because division is their game, and I refuse to play.

And he hasn't started a war yet in his first 2 weeks of the second term, so again, you got exactly what you were imagining. He's not gonna start a war in Gaza, it's already ongoing, he's just going to enable Israel to deport Palestinians. I don't understand what you're complaining about. You voted for an imaginary "art of the deal" genius created by right-wing-nutjob-media, keep consuming that media, why start worrying about the facts after the election?

[tainted_love]

In terms of human face or compassionate policy in Palestine, I think Kamala Harris would have been better than Trump.

Kamala Harris is just another establishment politician, and nearly all of them are owned by AIPAC regardless of their party affiliation.  The only difference between establishment Democrats and establishment Republicans is the lip service.  I'm not sure if you understood my original post correctly or not.  My concern isn't so much for Palestine as much as it is for America, our soaring debt, our endless entanglements, our dead soldiers fighting to protect "our greatest ally."

Yeah let's bring back lifetime maximums and pre-existing conditions, enough of this communism.

What we've lost is 90% of the smaller insurance companies that didn't have those restrictions, and what we've gotten is a concentration of power in a handful of giant corporations that put their bottom line above their service.  That's a lot closer to communism than a fair and free market, so it seems we're in agreement that communism is bad.

And he hasn't started a war yet in his first 2 weeks of the second term, so again, you got exactly what you were imagining. He's not gonna start a war in Gaza, it's already ongoing, he's just going to enable Israel to deport Palestinians. I don't understand what you're complaining about. You voted for an imaginary "art of the deal" genius created by right-wing-nutjob-media, keep consuming that media, why start worrying about the facts after the election?

My dear sir, I'm sorry if I offended you by voting for the hair piece instead of the hair bag, but you seem to be making a lot of assumptions about me.  I get my information from multiple sources, many off-shore.  Last I checked they all attempt to twist the narrative in one direction or another.  The important thing is to understand who's benefiting from the narrative and learn to take an objective look at how the intended message can hurt or benefit Americans.

True, the war is already in progress, but so far America has only been funding it and not actively participating in it.  Let's not get semantics muddled with facts.

[suchmoon]

What we've lost is 90% of the smaller insurance companies that didn't have those restrictions

As I said, your policy homework is absolutely brilliant. Keep doing that and you won't have to worry about anything.

I get my information from multiple sources, many off-shore.

I can see from your thorough understanding of the health care system that your Kremlin sources are definitely not lying to you.

My dear sir, I'm sorry if I offended you by voting for the hair piece instead of the hair bag

I couldn't give a shit about your vote, it's the buyer's remorse that is utterly hilarious to me. You wanted the orange dweeb and his nazi puppetmaster, quit whining and enjoy. Don't be a sore winner.

[Squaremile777]

Trump plans to take over the Gaza strip, indicating he wants to displace the Palestinians that live there.




I voted for Trump, well mostly because the alternative was a fucking stoned lunatic.  But partially because I saw him as anti-war.  I'm tired of sending America's young men to die in the Middle East.  I'm tired of politicians laundering my tax dollars so they and their friends can get rich off of brown people's blood.  I'm tired AIPAC controlling 90% of our national elected officials, and large portion of the elected officials in our largest states.

I'm tired of being ZOG'd!

This is latest announcement is not what I voted for.  He claim's he's not going send troops to Gaza, but how the fuck does he expect Hamas to react to a bunch of Mexican construction workers showing up on their shores?  What makes Trump think the Mexican construction workers want any of that noise?

Most American's who are brainwashed by the Jewish owned media are quick to call Hamas a terrorist group.  Well, maybe they are, but if someone wanted to kick me out of my house, off of my land, out of my country, I would be more than willing to behave just like Hamas and could only dream of emulating their success.

For decades Hamas, and other Palestinians before them have held off one of the most technologically advanced armies history has ever seen.  They make the Vietcong look like children playing hide-and-seek.  There's no way they're just going to hand over Gaza without a fight.  After the Palestinians have been their, fighting for their homes for the last 77 years, he thinks he'll talk them into going somewhere else because he flashes some shiny object in front of their eyes?  After spending billions to fund the genocide of their people?

I have a simpler solution: Stop funding Israel, and let the Palestinians and Israelis have a fair fight until one of them gives up.

Trump can give Gaza region the purpose, and good for jobs and economy.
He can build apartments and hotels maybe trump tower the clima is there warm and good and tourists including stars and wealthy elite definately will Be into this.
Location is good there

[o48o]

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This is latest announcement is not what I voted for.
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Leopards eating faces again? You should spend less time in maga-bubble if you actually thought that highly accomplished woman was going to be less qualified leader, then convicted felon who was former reality tv star.

And this was exactly what you voted for. So enjoy.

You were totally aware of him saying that Biden isn't tough enough against Palestine. You were also informed how much he is only interested about power, how vain and petty he is, how much he lies about everything.
But it's obvious to me that you people will turn against him radically in ~2 years, after you get bored deciphering his every day ramblings and enriching him and other billionaires, while giving your protective rights away.

I am lucky i don't live there, but too bad we have to share a planet with it, so we have to care.

[Gentle_Soul]

Trump plans to take over the Gaza strip, indicating he wants to displace the Palestinians that live there.




I voted for Trump, well mostly because the alternative was a fucking stoned lunatic.  But partially because I saw him as anti-war.  I'm tired of sending America's young men to die in the Middle East.  I'm tired of politicians laundering my tax dollars so they and their friends can get rich off of brown people's blood.  I'm tired AIPAC controlling 90% of our national elected officials, and large portion of the elected officials in our largest states.

I'm tired of being ZOG'd!

This is latest announcement is not what I voted for.  He claim's he's not going send troops to Gaza, but how the fuck does he expect Hamas to react to a bunch of Mexican construction workers showing up on their shores?  What makes Trump think the Mexican construction workers want any of that noise?

Most American's who are brainwashed by the Jewish owned media are quick to call Hamas a terrorist group.  Well, maybe they are, but if someone wanted to kick me out of my house, off of my land, out of my country, I would be more than willing to behave just like Hamas and could only dream of emulating their success.

For decades Hamas, and other Palestinians before them have held off one of the most technologically advanced armies history has ever seen.  They make the Vietcong look like children playing hide-and-seek.  There's no way they're just going to hand over Gaza without a fight.  After the Palestinians have been their, fighting for their homes for the last 77 years, he thinks he'll talk them into going somewhere else because he flashes some shiny object in front of their eyes?  After spending billions to fund the genocide of their people?

I have a simpler solution: Stop funding Israel, and let the Palestinians and Israelis have a fair fight until one of them gives up.

I think this whole war is not the  mind of Triumph I think he is cooking something that would give birth to long lasting peace especially in Palestine
Triumph in my own view does not look like a man who is a lover of crisis and war though people may tend to pretend but in my opinion he isn't a man one will call a war lover or crisis
Trump's proposal of the overhaul of the Gaza strip is only suggestive that he wants to take over the area
I think trumph thinks he could relocate Palestinians into neighboring countries while trying to rebuild it whatever his intentions or plans are I pray it shouldn't be that violent and war  because what the world needs now is peace people have already suffered more than enough to begin to face another face of war and crisis
Basically there is more to embracing peace than war and crisis my humble opinion though just hoping world leaders could realize this and quite in time

[antiark]

Trump started trading lands and people

[tainted_love]

What we've lost is 90% of the smaller insurance companies that didn't have those restrictions

As I said, your policy homework is absolutely brilliant. Keep doing that and you won't have to worry about anything.

So far you've made no rational arguments.  All you've done is use meaningless phrases like "policy homework" and attempt to insult me.  Could you provide some proof of what you claim or make an actual rebuttal?  I don't think so.  My "policy homework" is lived experience.  I remember back in the day when my father worked as a line cook and had better health insurance than I get at my current corporate job.  Now, refute that argument with a catchy phrase and an attempted insult.

I get my information from multiple sources, many off-shore.

I can see from your thorough understanding of the health care system that your Kremlin sources are definitely not lying to you.

I haven't been getting any Kremlin news, but it couldn't be any less reliable than CNN, MSNBC, FoxNews, or any of the other Jewish Brainwashing Networks we've been force fed in this country.  Would you be so kind, and provide a Kremlin source that's translated into English, please?  One that's especially critical of the Jews running Ukraine? 

My dear sir, I'm sorry if I offended you by voting for the hair piece instead of the hair bag

I couldn't give a shit about your vote, it's the buyer's remorse that is utterly hilarious to me. You wanted the orange dweeb and his nazi puppetmaster, quit whining and enjoy. Don't be a sore winner.

I don't believe you.  You gave enough of a shit to post in this thread multiple times.  You started out yelling, as a matter of fact.  That doesn't strike me as someone who doesn't care.

As for a Nazi puppet master... I think you need to look at who the real puppet masters are.  It sort of rhymes with Jews.  Oh shit, look at that, I gave it away.  Maybe if you had actually done some of that "Policy Homework" you would know that.

[franky1]

whenever there is displacement, there is always issues. just look at africa for the last 70 years when big-agri came into africa with trade deals to make africa the agricultural center.

alot of countries hope to have learned from africa's mistakes that just let foreign corporations just walk in and take over the land to build large agricultural plots whilst displacing the locals, leaving charities to deal with the aftermath of shelter and food resources

so depending on the contracts involved and detail of how legally binding the rights of the natives will be preserved is something that needs looking into
EG
are those being displaced going to be compensated to move and have opportunity to just be given a fully built home on their return. or is the compensation just the leaving/moving costs and once left, thats it

working out the deals of what the property value would be once built and how the displaced natives will or wont get preferential treatment of obtaining a property either via a discounted sale or via government write off to give back for free

looking at how america deals with its own domestic urban renewal programs, many that are displaced are not always happy

[aoluain]

To be fair the genocide of Palestinians didn't start a month ago with Trump, it has been going on for almost 8 decades and all US presidents have supported it one way or the other. So what Trump recently said is not even new, that has been the plan ever since the terrorist organization named Israel was created. Trump is just delusional enough to think his words/tweets change anything in real world!

As for the relationship and your poll question, it is more complicated than that. US regime sees Israeli terrorists as its proxy that is used to further its plans in West Asia including destabilization so that they intervene militarily and occupy energy rich regions and steal the oil and gas like what they have been doing in Syria and Iraq over the past ~20 years.
Meanwhile the Zionist terrorists have been using US like a parasite does and treat it as a host that has to continue feeding them to ensure their survival. This is how they see Americans not just the president:

Over the years, the Israeli leader has developed a reputation among the staff at the U.S. president’s guesthouse for bringing special cargo on his trips to Washington: bags and suitcases full of dirty laundry, according to U.S. officials familiar with the matter.

"The Netanyahus are the only ones who bring actual suitcases of dirty laundry for us to clean," said one U.S. official,....
"After multiple trips, it became clear this was intentional."

In other words the head of this terrorist organization has been intentionally humiliating Americans for many years while taking billions of dollars of American taxpayers money every year...

And the most important point is "occupy energy rich regions" There is an estimated
one trillion cubic feet of gas off the coast of Gaza!

I believe that the absolute devastation we have witnessed in Gaza has been the final
push to sieze more land and secure those gas fields by Israel with the US in support.

Trumps lame excuse of creating a better place and the "Riviera of the middle east"
is just glossing over the destruction they have created. much the same as
Christianity was a cloak for the resource stripping by the imperialists of centuries past.

Trump is an imperialist, he views Canada, Greenland, Ukraine, Panama and Gaza
only as banks of resources which are needed in his plans for MAGA.

[codIuni]

And once upon a time, Gaza could have lived like Dubai, but we just need to cooperate with the civilized West, not with terrorists. And to hell with them, let them wipe their ass with stones and live in the desert.