Fortunejack changing license and country to avoid paying winners: flag created

[LoyceV]

I didn’t see march 24

So you didn't even read De beslissing from the document you posted?

[PaperWallet]

I didn’t see march 24

So you didn't even read De beslissing from the document you posted?

You are correct, apologies, I read it but I thought they were talking about the judgement made 24th February, but yes indeed they were referring to a later hearing date on march 24, I just learned this:)

I was surprised to see you return to the forum. There have been numerous members stating they will take casino/gaming websites to court but we never hear from them again. In your case, your efforts have paid off at least until/unless FortuneJack files an appeal. If they have exited Curacao as a result of the judgement in your favour, that probably means they are no longer part of the process and will be unable to file an appeal. If that is an accurate reading of the situation, how will FortuneJack be forced to pay you?

Hey there, nice to see you’re still around! You’re one of the few I respect here (and the most). I had a lawyer file the case. And to answer your other questions: I feel great, and no Fortunejack did not file an appeal yet, anyway they couldn’t until a final order to pay is issued. But as of now a court judgement is already issued and proves my case and is enough for supporting my flag until they pay!

Other lawsuits could be made in their current residence, or some other lawsuits for fraud I don’t know… for the time being let’s just focus on the current state of things and I think a flag is appropriate starting from now

[Rating Place]

Proof of the judgement dating from 24 of February 2025: attached in pdf:
Original judgement with my name wiped out: https://www.dropbox.com/s/t8j8dws3z4zhzsr/FortuneJack_Judgement.pdf?st=14yflz8n&dl=0

I read it, although I don't like "legal language". It looks like the case continues on March 24.

Thanks for following up! We’ll see, I didn’t see march 24, but as of now they’re still refusing to deal with me and a court order to pay a specific amount is coming… They already judged that they have wrongfully confiscated my winnings.

The only thing being questioned in March is if bet 1 and bet 3 are considered the same. It looks like 3 was a live bet.

[Wapfika]

Your tags what are for, I haven't checked your trust history to know the reason for those tags m, but I am sure that it won't be far from claiming false information will be part of those tags as a comment

This is what that I am also thinking. Expecting something like probably manipulation from PaperWallet the OP which might even lead to more negative trust for him. The guy is really not making any sense on this thread as it makes it look like he is not serious or having something else in his mind by posting he has evidence but did not come with the evidence.

The OP is a victim of not reading the casino ToS before betting based on my understanding on this old case. He just can’t move on since he should won the money in question here if there’s no terms that forbids multiple same bet and max payout.

OP case is already on the dead end when it comes the ToS of the casino that’s why he is seeking legal battle since a judge might consider the ToS of that casino unfair.

@OP, your case might burn more money than the amount involved here plus stress in your life. Maybe it’s time to move on?

[Rating Place]

Your tags what are for, I haven't checked your trust history to know the reason for those tags m, but I am sure that it won't be far from claiming false information will be part of those tags as a comment

This is what that I am also thinking. Expecting something like probably manipulation from PaperWallet the OP which might even lead to more negative trust for him. The guy is really not making any sense on this thread as it makes it look like he is not serious or having something else in his mind by posting he has evidence but did not come with the evidence.

The OP is a victim of not reading the casino ToS before betting based on my understanding on this old case. He just can’t move on since he should won the money in question here if there’s no terms that forbids multiple same bet and max payout.

OP case is already on the dead end when it comes the ToS of the casino that’s why he is seeking legal battle since a judge might consider the ToS of that casino unfair.

@OP, your case might burn more money than the amount involved here plus stress in your life. Maybe it’s time to move on?

FJ says that you can't make the same bet. Looks like OP bet 1 is pregame and bet 3 is live. Both on the same team if I'm reading it right. Because the wording is different, they may consider as 2 separate bets.

[PaperWallet]

Your tags what are for, I haven't checked your trust history to know the reason for those tags m, but I am sure that it won't be far from claiming false information will be part of those tags as a comment

This is what that I am also thinking. Expecting something like probably manipulation from PaperWallet the OP which might even lead to more negative trust for him. The guy is really not making any sense on this thread as it makes it look like he is not serious or having something else in his mind by posting he has evidence but did not come with the evidence.

The OP is a victim of not reading the casino ToS before betting based on my understanding on this old case. He just can’t move on since he should won the money in question here if there’s no terms that forbids multiple same bet and max payout.

OP case is already on the dead end when it comes the ToS of the casino that’s why he is seeking legal battle since a judge might consider the ToS of that casino unfair.

@OP, your case might burn more money than the amount involved here plus stress in your life. Maybe it’s time to move on?

The ToS say court of Curacao decide about disputes. The court said terms of service are fair but bet 3 and 1 are not identical thus my winnings of bet 3 were unjustly stolen. You should read threads before coming here shitposting

Proof of the judgement dating from 24 of February 2025: attached in pdf:
Original judgement with my name wiped out: https://www.dropbox.com/s/t8j8dws3z4zhzsr/FortuneJack_Judgement.pdf?st=14yflz8n&dl=0

I read it, although I don't like "legal language". It looks like the case continues on March 24.

Thanks for following up! We’ll see, I didn’t see march 24, but as of now they’re still refusing to deal with me and a court order to pay a specific amount is coming… They already judged that they have wrongfully confiscated my winnings.

The only thing being questioned in March is if bet 1 and bet 3 are considered the same. It looks like 3 was a live bet.

Read the judgement again (if you can). Anyhow, no worries, your job as a shitposter doesn’t require you to understand anything under the sun 😂

[moderator's note: consecutive posts merged]

[JollyGood]

I was not sure if they were even operating their website or if their forum representative was active. Upon checking, both are therefore if they made a comment it would be interesting to hear their side of the story.

How long will you wait for FortuneJack to make the payment before you are forced in to finding other solutions to obtain the money? Are you anticipating they might appeal? Maybe FortuneJack do have something to state about this in future but for now they have not posted in this thread nor made any posts related to your case since you announced you had won.

Other lawsuits could be made in their current residence, or some other lawsuits for fraud I don’t know… for the time being let’s just focus on the current state of things and I think a flag is appropriate starting from now

[Rating Place]

Proof of the judgement dating from 24 of February 2025: attached in pdf:
Original judgement with my name wiped out: https://www.dropbox.com/s/t8j8dws3z4zhzsr/FortuneJack_Judgement.pdf?st=14yflz8n&dl=0

I read it, although I don't like "legal language". It looks like the case continues on March 24.

Thanks for following up! We’ll see, I didn’t see march 24, but as of now they’re still refusing to deal with me and a court order to pay a specific amount is coming… They already judged that they have wrongfully confiscated my winnings.

The only thing being questioned in March is if bet 1 and bet 3 are considered the same. It looks like 3 was a live bet.

Read the judgement again (if you can). Anyhow, no worries, your job as a shitposter doesn’t require you to understand anything under the sun 😂

I'm not sure if you were replying to me or not. After reading the judgement again, bet's 1 and 3 are good, 2 and 4 are not. To be honest, you're a total clown and have no idea what the judgement states.

edit- going to read case again later to see if licensor has to pay since Fortunejack left town.

[nutildah]

After reading the judgement again, bet's 1 and 3 are good, 2 and 4 are not.

From what I gathered, this is correct, and he should be paid EUR 100k for bet 1 and up to EUR 100k for whatever the winnings from bet 3 were.

To be honest, you're a total clown and have no idea what the judgement states.

Welcome to our world.

edit- going to read case again later to see if licensor has to pay since Fortunejack left town.

Looks like they do:

"4.6 The court will, by final judgment, order Antillephone jointly and severally to pay ____ what Nexus will be ordered to pay."

OP, the last paragraph of the judgment makes it seem like the ball is now in your court, meaning they are expecting you to provide a statement about bet 3, if you haven't already done so.

[OssieBJ]

I have a judgment against @Fortunejack for unpaid winnings exceeding 100,000 dollars. During the legal process they’ve changed company name and moved out of Curacao. Despite having dismissed almost all of my lawyer’s claims, the court still judged that Fortunejack wrongfully confiscated my winnings of bet (3), which is worth 92,4000 euros (4657*19.84). They should also pay interest rates and other fees, still yet to be determined by the court since Fortunejack is unwilling to deal with me directly.

Proof of the judgement dating from 24 of February 2025: attached in pdf:
Original judgement with my name wiped out: https://www.dropbox.com/s/t8j8dws3z4zhzsr/FortuneJack_Judgement.pdf?st=14yflz8n&dl=0

Translated judgement to English: https://www.dropbox.com/s/9edi5s5zthxf5on/translated_fortunejack_judgement.pdf?st=k9lnvlmm&dl=0

Proof of Fortunejack moving out of Curacao very recently:
Still in Curaçao as of 14 November 2024 (if not clear just search « Curacao » on the page)
https://web.archive.org/web/20241114015102/https://fortunejack.com/

Out of Curaçao as of now (check their country at the bottom of the page): www.fortunejack.com

So these are unpaid winnings since the 31st of October 2021, my lawyer hasn’t been contacted since the judgement on the 24th of last February, and they still closed my ticket when I tried contacting them about it:

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/03/09/0R3ua.png

This is sufficient evidence to warn anyone about dealing with these people since they’ll just move country when sued.
Upon the date of my bets and until very recently, this is what it said in their terms and conditions: « You consent to the jurisdiction of Curaçao to resolve any disputes arising out of the gambling Services or use of the Website »
https://web.archive.org/web/20241016033313/https://fortunejack.com/faq/terms_and_conditions

That is why I am creating a flag against Fortunejack for violating a written agreement, that should stay active until they fully pay my winnings (there has been another flag before related to this, but still being unresponsive after a court judgement is just another level and justifies the new flag):
https://asktom.cf/index.php?action=trust;flag=3385

The same thing happen too me. 19th of oct 2024 they stole 368k from me and blocked my account I have been chasing them up every day on all social media and review platforms. They need too be held accountable. Keep posting on X shaming them every day

[JollyGood]

If this is the case, you should consider explaining everything in a scam accusation. Without understanding your specific issue it will be difficult to support your claim. The OP did not take a view that he had to follow them around on social media, on the contrary he decided to take legal action against them. $368,000 is a lot of money therefore what else have you been doing since October 2024?

The same thing happen too me. 19th of oct 2024 they stole 368k from me and blocked my account I have been chasing them up every day on all social media and review platforms. They need too be held accountable. Keep posting on X shaming them every day

[holydarkness]

OP, again, can you give me a summary of what happened? I believe the evidence provided is enough [though I only glanced at it], all I need now is the narrative to understand the situation, and I'll nudge ADante [the successor of the previous FJ rep that handle your case] to take a look from their side and perhaps help explaining what happened to him as he himself is quite in the dark too, given the issue happened before his time.

[PaperWallet]

OP, again, can you give me a summary of what happened? I believe the evidence provided is enough [though I only glanced at it], all I need now is the narrative to understand the situation, and I'll nudge ADante [the successor of the previous FJ rep that handle your case] to take a look from their side and perhaps help explaining what happened to him as he himself is quite in the dark too, given the issue happened before his time.

I’ll try. They basically took lots of sports bets, of which 4 won. For these 4 that won, they were placed on the same match. They’ve waited about 3 to 4 hours for the bet results, then almost immediately after result say “these bets are identical, so according to our terms and conditions we are only paying bet 1 and stealing your winnings from bets 2, 3 and 4”. Bets 3 and 4 are clearly different at least in wording and meaning than bets 1 and 2. Court was pretty harsh, rejected almost all of my lawyers arguments, but still ruled bet 3 was different than bet 1 and that they wrongfully “voided” it. Bet 3 is almost 85% of the stolen winnings. Their terms and conditions say court of Curacao has the final word in all disputes, except that during legal procedure they changed country.

In summary, they took up bets, waited for results, then refused to pay out winnings.

For more details you can read the judgement.

[Rating Place]

OP, again, can you give me a summary of what happened? I believe the evidence provided is enough [though I only glanced at it], all I need now is the narrative to understand the situation, and I'll nudge ADante [the successor of the previous FJ rep that handle your case] to take a look from their side and perhaps help explaining what happened to him as he himself is quite in the dark too, given the issue happened before his time.

I’ll try. They basically took lots of sports bets, of which 4 won. For these 4 that won, they were placed on the same match. They’ve waited about 3 to 4 hours for the bet results, then almost immediately after result say “these bets are identical, so according to our terms and conditions we are only paying bet 1 and stealing your winnings from bets 2, 3 and 4”. Bets 3 and 4 are clearly different at least in wording and meaning than bets 1 and 2. Court was pretty harsh, rejected almost all of my lawyers arguments, but still ruled bet 3 was different than bet 1 and that they wrongfully “voided” it. Bet 3 is almost 85% of the stolen winnings. Their terms and conditions say court of Curacao has the final word in all disputes, except that during legal procedure they changed country.

In summary, they took up bets, waited for results, then refused to pay out winnings. Pretty simple stuff that God will send them to hell for it if some of some them are not already there.

For more details you can read the judgement.

Reference is made to the lettering and numbering above
bet (2) void.
match) as "Which Team wins the Rest of the Game". Nexus has declared
Bet (3) is not identical to bet (1): "Fulltime Result" is not the same
in wording (and also in meaning at the time of half-time of the
bet (3) void without right.
consider these to be part of the bet because it is not a future uncertain
Bet (4) is identical to bet (3) except for the odds. The Court does not
(partial) outcome of a sports event, on the occurrence of which
bets can be placed. Nexus has rightly declared bet (4) invalid

Bet 3 was live and considered invalid by the court?

[nutildah]

Bet 3 was live and considered invalid by the court?

No, that's not what the judgment says, that's not what anybody here has said, nor is it what your translated text says...

"Void without right" means "valid".

You got it right the first time.

[Rating Place]

Bet 3 was live and considered invalid by the court?

No, that's not what the judgment says, that's not what anybody here has said, nor is it what your translated text says...

"Void without right" means "valid".

You got it right the first time.

edit- OK, I misunderstood last post by OP. Thanks

[JollyGood]

I am still having trouble understanding how FortuneJack will be forced to pay the amount that was awarded to you. As FortuneJack are no longer based in Curacao, how can a judgement from the Curacao courts be enforced? They now have a licence from The State of Anjouan therefore how will a Curacao judgement be enforced?

The part that confuses me is that it would have been better for them to have settled with you before the judgement and stayed with Curacao because after they moved their licence to Anjouan they are not allowed to offer their services in many big countries. Why did FortuneJack take that decision rather than pay the amount you were seeking?

I’ll try. They basically took lots of sports bets, of which 4 won. For these 4 that won, they were placed on the same match. They’ve waited about 3 to 4 hours for the bet results, then almost immediately after result say “these bets are identical, so according to our terms and conditions we are only paying bet 1 and stealing your winnings from bets 2, 3 and 4”. Bets 3 and 4 are clearly different at least in wording and meaning than bets 1 and 2. Court was pretty harsh, rejected almost all of my lawyers arguments, but still ruled bet 3 was different than bet 1 and that they wrongfully “voided” it. Bet 3 is almost 85% of the stolen winnings. Their terms and conditions say court of Curacao has the final word in all disputes, except that during legal procedure they changed country.

In summary, they took up bets, waited for results, then refused to pay out winnings.

For more details you can read the judgement.

[Rating Place]

I am still having trouble understanding how FortuneJack will be forced to pay the amount that was awarded to you. As FortuneJack are no longer based in Curacao, how can a judgement from the Curacao courts be enforced? They now have a licence from The State of Anjouan therefore how will a Curacao judgement be enforced?

The part that confuses me is that it would have been better for them to have settled with you before the judgement and stayed with Curacao because after they moved their licence to Anjouan they are not allowed to offer their services in many big countries. Why did FortuneJack take that decision rather than pay the amount you were seeking?

I’ll try. They basically took lots of sports bets, of which 4 won. For these 4 that won, they were placed on the same match. They’ve waited about 3 to 4 hours for the bet results, then almost immediately after result say “these bets are identical, so according to our terms and conditions we are only paying bet 1 and stealing your winnings from bets 2, 3 and 4”. Bets 3 and 4 are clearly different at least in wording and meaning than bets 1 and 2. Court was pretty harsh, rejected almost all of my lawyers arguments, but still ruled bet 3 was different than bet 1 and that they wrongfully “voided” it. Bet 3 is almost 85% of the stolen winnings. Their terms and conditions say court of Curacao has the final word in all disputes, except that during legal procedure they changed country.

In summary, they took up bets, waited for results, then refused to pay out winnings.

For more details you can read the judgement.

The licensor will get stuck paying the judgement. FJ also has a data processing license in Costa Rica. That's what is used in Costa Rica.

[LoyceV]

They now have a licence from The State of Anjouan

How does this not scare players? This is literally the first time I even hear about that country!

[JollyGood]

The licensor will get stuck paying the judgement. FJ also has a data processing license in Costa Rica. That's what is used in Costa Rica.

For clarity, does that mean the Curacao licence authority will pay the OP the amount of the court judgement?

They now have a licence from The State of Anjouan

How does this not scare players? This is literally the first time I even hear about that country!

Anjouan offer licences for online casinos but there are conditions (including citizens of some countries that cannot use the casino: Australia, Austria, Comoros Islands, France, Germany, Netherlands, Spain, United Kingdom, USA and all FATF blacklisted countries).

The Curacao licence has a much smaller group of excluded countries/states therefore I cannot understand why FortuneJack decided to switch licences to Anjouan and accepted to lose access to massive markets with tens of millions of potential customers rather than just pay the $120,000 before the court judgement was made and keep the Curacao licence.

Whether it scares players or not they should understand the reason the casino moved to a different jurisdiction. Having an Anjouan licence in itself is not a problem but switching from Curacao to Anjouan could be if the circumstances are suspect. For example, BC.Game cited a 1931 law that makes it easy for the courts to be exploited by malicious actors therefore they moved licences from Curacao to Anjouan.

What is notable is that we have heard nothing from FortuneJack regarding the matter.