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March 24, 2025, 01:23:59 AM
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There are lots of vlogs on YouTube where actual chinese people explain the real situation. The problem is less and less families are being formed because, just like in the west, people are either too busy traveling and doing other things that are not part of the responsibilities involved in starting a family, or simply they are not able to do so due economic limitations. I was surprised to see how vloging is becoming more popular in China since it is ultimately a totalitarian regime but some things slip through the cracks thanks to the internet.

China's economy is going to continue to be tied as an exporter. They need clients, that is the west mostly, for their cheap products that you can hardly compete against because in all honestly, it's made with basically slave labor or at least next to no worker's rights, which is why they are able to cut costs so much. It's not like they have some better technology than the west. The moment the west comes up with AI to replace chinese (and other countries) labor then they will be able to not depend on imports as much in order to cut costs.
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China's rapid technological advancements can not be overlooked, I believe that you can feel their impacts and presence in every parts of the world. In my country, over 90% of household appliances, industrial materials and machineries including many more are from China, many construction companies are from China, also. The US is still the number one in global economy, no doubt about it but with the way that China, is competing and affecting people's lives globally, anything can happen in the future. China's AI, weapons and industrialization innovations can make them to equal and maybe surpass the US in the future.

 
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March 24, 2025, 10:18:38 AM
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China's rapid technological advancements can not be overlooked, I believe that you can feel their impacts and presence in every parts of the world. In my country, over 90% of household appliances, industrial materials and machineries including many more are from China, many construction companies are from China, also. The US is still the number one in global economy, no doubt about it but with the way that China, is competing and affecting people's lives globally, anything can happen in the future. China's AI, weapons and industrialization innovations can make them to equal and maybe surpass the US in the future.

That's one factor as well, their rapid advancement in technology, AI, even quantum computing, and there are companies that compete with Tesla. And as far as GDP goes, there are just behind the US.

And then their impact globally is already felt specially in Africa as well in China. Although they try to bull nations in Southeast Asia specially on those small islands that everyone is fighting for. And if we go further like in military, obviously they have the biggest army now, and then they have also advance weaponry not just nuclear. I'm not sure about the one child policy though, it might have an aging population already that might put their economic progress in a halt.


 
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March 24, 2025, 02:09:28 PM
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There are lots of vlogs on YouTube where actual chinese people explain the real situation. The problem is less and less families are being formed because, just like in the west, people are either too busy traveling and doing other things that are not part of the responsibilities involved in starting a family, or simply they are not able to do so due economic limitations. I was surprised to see how vloging is becoming more popular in China since it is ultimately a totalitarian regime but some things slip through the cracks thanks to the internet.

They are very strict and tight in managing their people, but that does not mean they forbid their citizens from contacting the rest of the world. China is very strict but they are not a dictatorship and isolated from the rest of the world like North Korea.
They are still the second most populous country and their population continues to grow every year and they always ensure a steady supply of labor to maintain their position as the factory of the world. So I doubt what you are saying that there are fewer and fewer families being formed in China.
Relying on just a few claims from some Vlogs is not convincing enough and is inaccurate. For population, marriage and birth statistics, we should rely on surveys published by reputable organizations.


China's economy is going to continue to be tied as an exporter. They need clients, that is the west mostly, for their cheap products that you can hardly compete against because in all honestly, it's made with basically slave labor or at least next to no worker's rights, which is why they are able to cut costs so much. It's not like they have some better technology than the west. The moment the west comes up with AI to replace chinese (and other countries) labor then they will be able to not depend on imports as much in order to cut costs.

The advantage of a major exporting country is that it can be self-sufficient domestically, which will greatly benefit the national economy because it does not have to depend on anyone. Meanwhile, countries that rely too heavily on imports will be at risk if supplies are suddenly disrupted. Like Europe, which is heavily dependent on Russian gas, it has been through a lot of trouble over the past three years. Their economy cannot fully recover without Russian gas and it seems they have failed to find a better source than Russia.


What you say is completely opposite to what is happening, and you deliberately deny China's development instead of giving a fair assessment.

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March 24, 2025, 03:51:37 PM
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With fears of US hegemony collapsing soon, many are wondering which will become the world's biggest superpower. Currently, China is the second-largest economy in the world. It has been advancing rapidly, especially in the areas of AI, and EVs (Electric Vehicles). Companies like Deepseek and BYD are becoming a "force to reckon with".

This makes me wonder if soon China will surpass the US as the world's largest economy? If not, why? What do you think will happen if China reigns supreme in the future? Will it become the leading force of the New World Order?

Your input would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Smiley

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March 24, 2025, 03:59:03 PM
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China's rapid technological advancements can not be overlooked, I believe that you can feel their impacts and presence in every parts of the world. In my country, over 90% of household appliances, industrial materials and machineries including many more are from China, many construction companies are from China, also. The US is still the number one in global economy, no doubt about it but with the way that China, is competing and affecting people's lives globally, anything can happen in the future. China's AI, weapons and industrialization innovations can make them to equal and maybe surpass the US in the future.
China has taking over the global economy with mass production of home made appliances, industrial tools and machines and many more. At the same time more countries are going to take debt from China making them stronger.

One thing can be done to take China out of the market. Although it is a difficult thing to do as many countries will not agree to it. For instance if the individual countries start taking production into their hands they can limit the trade they do with China.
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March 24, 2025, 10:12:19 PM
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There are lots of vlogs on YouTube where actual chinese people explain the real situation. The problem is less and less families are being formed because, just like in the west, people are either too busy traveling and doing other things that are not part of the responsibilities involved in starting a family, or simply they are not able to do so due economic limitations. I was surprised to see how vloging is becoming more popular in China since it is ultimately a totalitarian regime but some things slip through the cracks thanks to the internet.

China's economy is going to continue to be tied as an exporter. They need clients, that is the west mostly, for their cheap products that you can hardly compete against because in all honestly, it's made with basically slave labor or at least next to no worker's rights, which is why they are able to cut costs so much. It's not like they have some better technology than the west. The moment the west comes up with AI to replace chinese (and other countries) labor then they will be able to not depend on imports as much in order to cut costs.

At this pace, AI will rule the world. Global population will surely decline in the future. Especially when almost no one wants to have kids. Perhaps, China will become the world's leading superpower in the long run. Russia will be second place, followed by the EU. The US will be long gone, as it becomes a "shadow of its former self". It's what usually happens to empires in the long run.

All in all, China's rapidly advancing technologies should not be underestimated. America better pay attention before it's too late. Hopefully, Donald Trump will put the US right back on track. Just my two sats. Grin

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March 25, 2025, 09:42:53 AM
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There are lots of vlogs on YouTube where actual chinese people explain the real situation. The problem is less and less families are being formed because, just like in the west, people are either too busy traveling and doing other things that are not part of the responsibilities involved in starting a family, or simply they are not able to do so due economic limitations. I was surprised to see how vloging is becoming more popular in China since it is ultimately a totalitarian regime but some things slip through the cracks thanks to the internet.

China's economy is going to continue to be tied as an exporter. They need clients, that is the west mostly, for their cheap products that you can hardly compete against because in all honestly, it's made with basically slave labor or at least next to no worker's rights, which is why they are able to cut costs so much. It's not like they have some better technology than the west. The moment the west comes up with AI to replace chinese (and other countries) labor then they will be able to not depend on imports as much in order to cut costs.

At this pace, AI will rule the world. Global population will surely decline in the future. Especially when almost no one wants to have kids. Perhaps, China will become the world's leading superpower in the long run. Russia will be second place, followed by the EU. The US will be long gone, as it becomes a "shadow of its former self". It's what usually happens to empires in the long run.

All in all, China's rapidly advancing technologies should not be underestimated. America better pay attention before it's too late. Hopefully, Donald Trump will put the US right back on track. Just my two sats. Grin


I don't know if AI will rule the world because it is the future but I doubt it because humans are the most intelligent species and have created everything in this world, no one else. Also, have you two tried checking the world population? Because according to the news I know, the population is increasing every day and according to the United Nations forecast, the world population will reach 8.6 billion people by 2030. That shows that the world population is only increasing, not decreasing.

When it comes to world domination, the United States is not the first and certainly not the last. There will be another economy that replaces the United States and the world will have a new order, that is inevitable.

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March 25, 2025, 11:40:12 AM
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With fears of US hegemony collapsing soon, many are wondering which will become the world's biggest superpower. Currently, China is the second-largest economy in the world. It has been advancing rapidly, especially in the areas of AI, and EVs (Electric Vehicles). Companies like Deepseek and BYD are becoming a "force to reckon with".

This makes me wonder if soon China will surpass the US as the world's largest economy? If not, why? What do you think will happen if China reigns supreme in the future? Will it become the leading force of the New World Order?

Your input would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Smiley
It's very hard to say. Overall, China is really doing very well, they heavily invest in education and science while the USA heavily invests in Hollywood. Chinese people want to become a scientist when they grow up while American kids want to become the next retard Youtuber, influencer or actor.
With current high tempo, China will become the largest economy in the world but I'm afraid that the USA won't let them that. There is a reason why the USA spends billions of dollars into military, I think this answers the question.

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With fears of US hegemony collapsing soon, many are wondering which will become the world's biggest superpower. Currently, China is the second-largest economy in the world. It has been advancing rapidly, especially in the areas of AI, and EVs (Electric Vehicles). Companies like Deepseek and BYD are becoming a "force to reckon with".

This makes me wonder if soon China will surpass the US as the world's largest economy? If not, why? What do you think will happen if China reigns supreme in the future? Will it become the leading force of the New World Order?

Your input would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Smiley

The United States has established itself as the richest country in the world for many years and continues to do so today. In 2025, the US GDP was around 25 to 30 trillion dollars. Their dominance is maintained by their country's advanced technology, natural and mineral resources, their monopoly market system in the outside world, favorable business environment, and their social and political dominance around the world. Moreover, their dollar is used as the world's main reserve currency. Among them, the country's progress in technology and investment is unmatched by any country in the world. The United States has many large technology innovators and development organizations, most of which are in the private sector. These private sectors, together with the government, have further developed and accelerated the country's technology sector.

On the other hand, China is in second place in the list of top economic countries in the world. China has also shown the world its great success in technology. The Chinese government provides massive incentives in the technology sector. In the case of EVs, China has currently surpassed America to occupy the top position. Their production, sales, and market development are ahead of the United States.

Therefore, it can be said that in the ongoing intense competition between the two countries, the world will see in the future which country will be left behind and which will advance.

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March 25, 2025, 01:49:52 PM
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With fears of US hegemony collapsing soon, many are wondering which will become the world's biggest superpower. Currently, China is the second-largest economy in the world. It has been advancing rapidly, especially in the areas of AI, and EVs (Electric Vehicles). Companies like Deepseek and BYD are becoming a "force to reckon with".

This makes me wonder if soon China will surpass the US as the world's largest economy? If not, why? What do you think will happen if China reigns supreme in the future? Will it become the leading force of the New World Order?

Your input would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Smiley

Yes, China will become the largest economy in the world, but to be honest, I don't care.
Some economists claim that 40% of the Chinese economy is just a giant bubble, which was pumped by the Chinese government. China has lots of debts, which means that their economic growth is more or less artificial. I don't deny the huge competitive advantage of China as an industrial powerhouse and the rapid development of AI and other high tech industries. China has invested a lot in infrastructure and the education system, which is a good decision, but at the same time, China has problems with aging population and a declining birthrate.
I don't think that China will dominate the world the same way USA dominated the world in the past 80 years.

 
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March 25, 2025, 02:49:48 PM
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This makes me wonder if soon China will surpass the US as the world's largest economy? If not, why? What do you think will happen if China reigns supreme in the future? Will it become the leading force of the New World Order?
Your input would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Smiley


Maybe in that case we'll have to learn Chinese and start preparing for the expansion of communism around the world Roll Eyes

Joking aside, history has shown that all empires come to an end sooner or later, so it is logical that the US will not be able to be a dominant power forever, and who is powerful enough but China to take the place of the world's first world power? Their political and social organization is actually a fanatical modern communism in which the party decides and the people listen and execute, which gives them incredible efficiency and makes them super competitive with the rest of the world.

Add to that China wisely standing on the sidelines while Russia attacks Ukraine, while the EU wanders aimlessly from idea to idea, and US politicians discuss super sensitive matters via social media like drugged kids. With everything that's going on, it would be really strange if China didn't become a leading superpower in the next 10-20 years.

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March 25, 2025, 07:37:20 PM
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I don't know if AI will rule the world because it is the future but I doubt it because humans are the most intelligent species and have created everything in this world, no one else. Also, have you two tried checking the world population? Because according to the news I know, the population is increasing every day and according to the United Nations forecast, the world population will reach 8.6 billion people by 2030. That shows that the world population is only increasing, not decreasing.

When it comes to world domination, the United States is not the first and certainly not the last. There will be another economy that replaces the United States and the world will have a new order, that is inevitable.

That's odd. How come the world population keeps increasing when most people don't want to bear children these days (as a result of higher cost of living)? For AI to rule the world, population needs to be as low as possible. Thank God, that's not the case. Else, it would be complete chaos. A New World Order would surely have AI and Quantum Computing as its "backbone".

Some say the Elite (wealthy people) are working in tandem with governments and companies to accelerate their agenda of a "Global Reset". Their goal is to reduce the population by coming up with new deadly diseases, enforcing the use of CBDCs to control the economy, attacking privacy/anonymization protocols, and more. AFAIK, this is only a conspiracy theory. But who knows? Maybe it's all true. Whatever happens, rest assured that another country will take the reigns as the world's leading superpower in the future. The US has its days numbered. It won't be long before it collapses in its entirety. Just my thoughts Grin

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March 25, 2025, 07:50:04 PM
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Isn’t it already? The question is, will the US gain back my its former financial power? Trump is taking the right steps to restore the US to its former glory and I doubt it will be enough. The damage is done. It is probably too late already. At this point he needs a miracle.

China have no debt, have many natural mineral sources, manpower and everything. I don’t understand how the west let this happen to themselves.

Without their help, China wouldn’t be here. 20 years ago China was nothing.

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I think China needs reform for that future, today already it has a falling working population.  The days of throwing endless people at a problem or task to undercut business with cheap labor are fast fading.

   They must innovate and they must do so faster then other countries in order to take this title.  I also think they are far too violent to countries around them and this is not business or productive.

 
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March 25, 2025, 08:54:32 PM
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This makes me wonder if soon China will surpass the US as the world's largest economy? If not, why? What do you think will happen if China reigns supreme in the future? Will it become the leading force of the New World Order?

Your input would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Smiley

China is likely to take over from US as the world's largest economy because the country has been developing rapidly in recent years both in technology, human capital development and good innovations that has stand them out among other countries in the world so if they continue without relenting, they will certainly become the largest economy but what may likely not happen is for them to take over world power from the United States of America because taking power from the US will mean war, which even though China has sophisticated weapons to fight war but they can't supersede the US intelligence Agency.

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March 25, 2025, 09:09:10 PM
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Indeed, China can develop to become the biggest economy. But in a post-industrial, fractured, AI-disrupted, climate-squeezed, multipolar world where the concept of a single hegemon is obsolete, whose "biggest" matters now?

GDP size is old-school. Though massive, China's economy is also debt-loaded, real-estate-dependent, strictly controlled, and progressively surveillance-oriented. Indeed, BYD, Deepseek, and AI scale-ups are remarkable; but, domestic consumption is fragile, demographics are collapsing, and the CCP's fixation with control is stifling innovation. Power comes from trust, flexibility, and gentle influence not from numbers

If China "reign", its victory will not be clean. Supply chain nationalism, digital currencies fighting for dominance, cultural firewalls substituting for globalism will create a bipolar chaos state. There will be only broken tech empires, data conflicts, shaky alliances. A no man kingdom

Will it surpass the U.S.? Maybe in GDP
Will it dominate the world order? Not without losing parts of itself

 
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With fears of US hegemony collapsing soon, many are wondering which will become the world's biggest superpower. Currently, China is the second-largest economy in the world. It has been advancing rapidly, especially in the areas of AI, and EVs (Electric Vehicles). Companies like Deepseek and BYD are becoming a "force to reckon with".

This makes me wonder if soon China will surpass the US as the world's largest economy? If not, why? What do you think will happen if China reigns supreme in the future? Will it become the leading force of the New World Order?

Your input would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Smiley
If US dominance collapses, China can come forward economically and be number one in the world economically. If US dominance does not collapse, China will never be able to come to number one economically because America will never let China become number one. And even if it does, it will be a matter of time, maybe not in our time.

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March 26, 2025, 04:37:54 PM
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This makes me wonder if soon China will surpass the US as the world's largest economy? If not, why? What do you think will happen if China reigns supreme in the future? Will it become the leading force of the New World Order?

Your input would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Smiley

China is likely to take over from US as the world's largest economy because the country has been developing rapidly in recent years both in technology, human capital development and good innovations that has stand them out among other countries in the world so if they continue without relenting, they will certainly become the largest economy but what may likely not happen is for them to take over world power from the United States of America because taking power from the US will mean war, which even though China has sophisticated weapons to fight war but they can't supersede the US intelligence Agency.
Economically China, might lead America, in the future, the fact is very clear I don't think that there is anywhere that you will visit in this world without seeing Chinese products around you. Their innovations are making life to be easier and they are not relenting in advancing their technology. Where I worry is China, dominating America, as the number one superpower of the world, I don't think that America, will allow this, it almost seems like it is their birthright. I wouldn't like to see China, as a super power either because they are not democratic, It will not be good if an authoritarian regime were to be the strongest country in the world. Although I don't mind that China, is making America, not to feel that they are the only influential country in the world.

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March 26, 2025, 04:46:27 PM
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Whether we are looking at a strong economy with future potential or just a paper tiger on the verge of implosion is hard to say. The Chinese government often lies to “save face”, so we can't expect truth from them. But considering the real estate crisis, accusations of bad EV and stealing of western IP, with nothing else propping their 'innovation' up, I personally will stay away from investing in anything Chinese.

The only thing China had going for them was being a source of cheap production. But that is very dependent on the political situation. What happens when the west decides to take their business elsewhere?

If I had to guess their biggest issue in the near future will be their aging population.

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