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April 06, 2025, 10:33:13 AM
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So Duterte is arrested, I heard about his history a few days ago when someone from Philippines made a thread about him so I did some research and how his anti drug team fought drug lords and in the war there were casualties which should not be well if he is arrested then I think the case is closed now. Because there might be no way for him to be released again.
Yes, he was arrested , and while I appreciate your research, it's premature to assume he won't be released since the case is still in the pre-trial phase. The next step would be trial, if the case qualifies. However, as we've seen with Duterte in the Philippines, despite international criticism labeling him a killer
 many Filipinos still support him because they credit his leadership for economic improvement and reduced crime rates. Some might argue crime statistics actually increased (due to the volume of drug dealers killed), but perhaps this is preferable to innocent lives being lost

This is how establishments works, if there is any there, now I hope with the new government things will get more comfy.
Duterte is not an establishment, he was a former PH president.

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April 07, 2025, 05:13:27 PM
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So Duterte is arrested, I heard about his history a few days ago when someone from Philippines made a thread about him so I did some research and how his anti drug team fought drug lords and in the war there were casualties which should not be well if he is arrested then I think the case is closed now. Because there might be no way for him to be released again.

This is how establishments works, if there is any there, now I hope with the new government things will get more comfy.
Watching all the news from his attorneys and legal team, they're saying that there's a chance for him to get a release. But let's go there when he's already released, our government isn't going to coordinate and cooperate with that release and won't accept him back in the country. It's funny to think that this government has turned him over to the Hague and if the possibility of going back here is already there, they won't have him back and will reject his acceptance. See, Philippines politics is funnily dramatically.


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April 07, 2025, 09:40:04 PM
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Watching all the news from his attorneys and legal team, they're saying that there's a chance for him to get a release. But let's go there when he's already released, our government isn't going to coordinate and cooperate with that release and won't accept him back in the country.

Any legal team will say that they have a better chance against the opposing team; lawyers are like that; they are confident in their evidence and their presentation and they leave it up to the judges. I also read the opposing team's press release and they are confident of conviction, so it really depends on the presentation but based on what I read from both teams and independent lawyers, who are experts in international court proceedings, there is a possibility of conviction.
If ever there is a conditional release, the Marcos administration will not accept Duterte as they consider him to still be a threat to his administration because of his popularity back home.
 

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April 08, 2025, 11:52:35 AM
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Watching all the news from his attorneys and legal team, they're saying that there's a chance for him to get a release. But let's go there when he's already released, our government isn't going to coordinate and cooperate with that release and won't accept him back in the country.

Any legal team will say that they have a better chance against the opposing team; lawyers are like that; they are confident in their evidence and their presentation and they leave it up to the judges. I also read the opposing team's press release and they are confident of conviction, so it really depends on the presentation but based on what I read from both teams and independent lawyers, who are experts in international court proceedings, there is a possibility of conviction.
If ever there is a conditional release, the Marcos administration will not accept Duterte as they consider him to still be a threat to his administration because of his popularity back home.
While the budget for our country probably have been distributed to the ICC just for his conviction. Other world leaders have also said that this ICC institution is corrupt and that's why they don't depend on them anymore because they have a working legal and justice system. The same for us but this is purely intentional and political and that's why it's a political circus that we're seeing and these people left and right that are a part of it are the biggest part of it, the clowns and cohorts.


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April 13, 2025, 09:58:28 PM
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The debt in the country is piling up quite fast. Considering that there's no pandemic, no active separatist movements or any serious uprising, no grave natural disasters, and so on, I wonder why it is so.

Given the fast rising debt, it's interesting there seems to be not much happening around apart from direct dole-outs, which is obviously done with political motives.

What's worse right now is that in addition to rampant corruption, it seems the government isn't working at all. You can't feel somebody is managing the country. Even the prices of what's otherwise abundant agricultural products are soaring. Even ginger and tomatoes have become luxuries.

I guess this is the necessary result when a county choose to elect a leader who's the only son of the most corrupt couple in the country's history. It doesn't help that he's also a dropout and has known nothing but parties and private concerts.

That's a worst situation a country can be into,a country that it's citizens and individuals can find or seek support or solace can't even help itself.it doesn't make any sense,mean what should be the excuse for such a unproductive outputs as a Nation.
That means the country has been legally collapsed, losing its crown and orderliness to rivalry.Their constitution needs to be replaced and adjusted.

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April 13, 2025, 10:18:35 PM
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The debt in the country is piling up quite fast. Considering that there's no pandemic, no active separatist movements or any serious uprising, no grave natural disasters, and so on, I wonder why it is so.

Given the fast rising debt, it's interesting there seems to be not much happening around apart from direct dole-outs, which is obviously done with political motives.

What's worse right now is that in addition to rampant corruption, it seems the government isn't working at all. You can't feel somebody is managing the country. Even the prices of what's otherwise abundant agricultural products are soaring. Even ginger and tomatoes have become luxuries.

I guess this is the necessary result when a county choose to elect a leader who's the only son of the most corrupt couple in the country's history. It doesn't help that he's also a dropout and has known nothing but parties and private concerts.

That's a worst situation a country can be into,a country that it's citizens and individuals can find or seek support or solace can't even help itself.it doesn't make any sense,mean what should be the excuse for such a unproductive outputs as a Nation.
That means the country has been legally collapsed, losing its crown and orderliness to rivalry.Their constitution needs to be replaced and adjusted.

Yes, it's the rampant corruption from the Congress of the Philippines down to their police. And that's why it's very dangerous to live right now because of high crimes as well. I just read that some billionaire was just killed together with is body guard even though they have paid in millions in ransom.

Not saying that Duterte administration is better because of his war on drugs and being prosecuted in ICC, but still during his time, crimes are low because they are afraid of the government. Unlike today, there are a lot of crimes, even road rages that turn into someone taking the lives of the other party.

Just say to see how this country turn from good to worst right now and maybe the next Venezuela with inflation rate and no regards to the rule of law.

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April 27, 2025, 02:36:30 AM
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It’s natural to draw parallels based on rising debt and social spending, but the Philippines and Venezuela differ greatly in history, institutions and economic structure. You can compare certain indicators debt-to-GDP ratios or budget priorities, but here are two reasons we won’t become Venezuela:

  • The Philippine economy is far more diversified and boosted by large remittance inflows, which help stabilize consumption and foreign-exchange reserves.
  • The central bank enjoys stronger independence and credibility, keeping inflation relatively in check compared to Venezuela’s monetary collapse.

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April 27, 2025, 07:36:33 PM
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This is politics at play politicians has a way of distracting people from the real issues by making the citizens feels happy while things are going wrong this is a political strategy that politicians use all over the world, politicians don't fix the real issues of society they keep the people on the Mercy of the political class by making sure that they citizens depends in poverty so that they can be controlled.


I feel that what is happening in the Philippines has some levels of international backing because one thing that I have been able to realize is that any country that is having a problem politically or even in their economic performance there is a level of international interference this is because these super powers don't want other countries to develop so that smaller countries can continues to depends on them



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April 27, 2025, 11:56:00 PM
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We can monitor the debt to GDP here - https://tradingeconomics.com/philippines/government-debt-to-gdp

It’s very important information when analyzing if a country is making the right decisions when it comes to borrowing. 
But at the end of the day, it’s the people who really feel if the money is used well as they’re the ones who see and experience what the government is doing. 

For this year, the administration really emphasized giving financial aid to the poor,  and honestly, that’s very similar to what Venezuelan leaders did before. 
That’s why this topic makes sense and deserves more discussion. 

Politics will always be part of a country, but these days, people are more aware. 
They can't easily control the flow of information anymore, thanks to social media, where anyone who loves their country can share their opinion and help others wake up to reality.

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