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April 07, 2025, 01:15:15 PM
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While pride might be the reason for some, it's not always the case. Some people do not understand or know how the real world works. They believe if they graduate with very good grades, they'll get good jobs, but in reality, the good jobs want people with years of experience, and they don't have any. So they come to a world they were not properly prepared for.
You can build yourself with lots of experience even within a short duration, its not always about your years of engagement/experience now, but your proof of quality delivery. You can build the experience that took someone 5 years in a single year if you're very determined. Its all about continuous learning and practice. Learn consistently the updated requirements of your career and build up a flashy portfolio of experience, go for the job and you'll gain more quality experience on the job. Don't forget to fake it until you achieve it.


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Also, we often talk about people starting a business, but we forget that you need to know the business you're going into. Without proper knowledge about the business, you'll fail. They did not prepare for anything like this, so they're left confused, with no idea where to start from and no one to guide them.
You could learn, commit 1 year to apprenticeship, you would learn lots of required knowledge on the business if it is your drive, else you can continue to commit to doing what makes you happy, upgrade yourself on it and get successful. Although you can digress a bit for survival purposes until you are able to put yourself properly in shape for what you truly want.


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Then there's the issue of capital. These things are not excuses, they're reality. Don't make it seem like little things because it worked out for you or someone you know. 
Capital isn't the very main requirement, its the person not being prepared both mentally and strategically that becomes the major issue If you've capital and you're not prepared, the business would still fail. I would give you an example. If you are planning on setting up a fish farm, then you need to get the following feasibility studies ready:

  • Costs of renting the place/building out the environment if you've land available
  • Best type of fish to grow and Cost of buying the required number of fish Jumpers you need
  • Cost of producing or buying their feeds for a period of 4 - 5 months
  • Cost of purchasing Pumping machine and/or hiring it to constantly change their water 
  • Cost of their medication/ contracting a veterinary doctor to monitor their health
  • Market demands for the fish and places/patterns to sell at harvesting for bigger profits
There are definitely more to the list, and when you are ready with all of these and put it together as a document, then you can go out and source funds and do not get a loan to sponsor that fresh business, rather seeks grants or sponsorship from rich people around you or NGOs presenting your busines document as a your dedication and preparedness for executing the business. This surely works, although not immediately, but it would work for you.

 
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April 07, 2025, 08:37:47 PM
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I guess it depends on the industry because there will always be a job anywhere in the world that might suit you if you have that degree. But making sure that you have the right tools and are equipped with the education that a job may require, I think it wouldn’t be so hard to get a job if that’s what you really want. Maybe it also depends on the place that the person is talking about.

I think the major problem for this is an enabling environment, people do not actually read a course of which their society is having an high demand of but rather they read other courses that fancies them. You can’t go to school and study courses like Engineering and be in a vicinity where nothing like engineering companies or firms are situated or it’s not been too practiced.
I agree with you %100 as a matter of fact, this explanation defines it all in what causes people not to have job after graduating from school. There are many engineering students without engineering knowledge. They basically go to study what they don't know simply because their friends did so, they decide to follow suit without discovering themselves. I bet,, it will not end well for anyone who started. It, and of  course I could remember most of my friends who graduated as engineering students, but as of today they have nothing to do with engineering industry or work after graduating, so looking at things majority of graduated  don't work wither certificate because they neve studies what they know but studied what they feel like it's good for them.

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April 07, 2025, 08:51:21 PM
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To be fair, my biggest mistake was graduating from the university. I entered into the university on Business Faculty with the aim that one day I would have my business or I would work as a manager of the company but after 2 years, I realized that life isn't designed the way I imagined or my parents told me. My parents were always telling me that I'd be very successful and have an amazing life if I got very good grades but that was the biggest lie in my life. No one cares too much about your grades if you don't have good connections or if you aren't extraordinarily talented in your country.
You are right that grades are not everything and kids should realize that but it also does not mean it is totally useless. Good grades still show excellence which could be your advantage in life if you know how to use it well. Good grades are still important but you still need more than that.
But if not because of getting a good grade, how can we graduate then? Therefore, I'd say that they are important when we are studying in school. When our grades are high, it usually shows that we study well, and these learnings might come in handy later on life. About that 'more' you mean, the first thing that come in my head is skill. These two can always come together though.

You can't go wrong if you have them. On the second part, yeah, it is like the less we expect the more they will come out but I still believe that if we do what we can, we still can get what we are expecting. In terms of choosing a program in university, we must choose according to our interest but if we already pick up another one, you are right that at least it expands our experience.
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April 07, 2025, 09:02:19 PM
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We can not blame those that graduated from higher institutions of learning and seek for white collar jobs that won't give them much stress, if we had a good functional economy, even if all won't get employed but majority will get jobs and minimize the rate of the unemployed youths. Everyone cannot be a employer of labor, therefore whether you are educated or not you can still wish to work with those who have enough resources in their businesses then you can gather enough knowledge from them and save up money to start your own business. In the past when education was not too important, those who were wealthy then have servants and workers who serves them and after some numbers of years, they are settled with a huge some of money to establish their own business and also employ their own labor, it was actually helping young people in the society then but now greed has taken over many employers, after working so hard for them, it's either they ended up firing you or they will just make life so miserable for you while working for them. Starting a business requires a capital and how can you get the capital if you don't work for someone? JUST LIKE I SAID, EVERY ONE CANNOT BE AN EMPLOYER, THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE MORE COMFORTABLE WORKING FOR OTHERS WHILE RECEIVING THEIR WAGES AND SALARIES THAN THINK OF OWNING THEIR OWN BUSINESS.

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There are many engineering students without engineering knowledge. They basically go to study what they don't know simply because their friends did so,

That's very correct, and of course most students are just after of getting the result. They don't care what comes next because they have this strong feeling that whatever the problem is that they can be able to sort it out, I guess you know the feeling when your parents are well to do. Of course you will not be afraid of anything, so far as the money is there. But honestly this doesn't make any sense at all.

 how can you disguise yourself as a student when you're not even doing what it takes? And at the end let's take for instance they  came out with flying colors, you know most of them will be very proud of themselves, meanwhile they have been sorting all throughout their years in School.


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April 09, 2025, 09:39:09 AM
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You are right that grades are not everything and kids should realize that but it also does not mean it is totally useless. Good grades still show excellence which could be your advantage in life if you know how to use it well. Good grades are still important but you still need more than that.
I don't say that grades are useless, I had a very good grades, both in school and in university but I say that life is different. There were some very talented students (more talented than me) in University and even today they work in McDonalds and Dunkin Donats or they work in bank with a low salary while I work as a UI/UX designer and have at least 3 times higher salary than most of them. They sticked with old-fasion approach and tried to find job in banks and finances, I choose a different way and became a UI/UX designer. Turns out, I was right and my choice was better. I was investing in crypto when I still was at school while my friends were having fun.

Maybe you just chose the wrong program in university. No amount of knowledge should be considered wasted. It is still part of your life experience.
No, that's not the case. The problem is that in my country salaries are low in everything except IT industry. If you want to achieve a higher level, you need to work for a decade and your parents should feed you throughout this time. I can't do that, my parents couldn't feed me, so I chose a way that would give me a high salary much earlier.

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April 14, 2025, 03:33:50 PM
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I agree with you on this because life is full of surprises and you don't know where your destiny is until you discover it so it's not advisable for any graduate to just wait for a job and waste his or her precious time we should start where we find ourselves because the fact of the matter is that we have limited jobs but job seekers are more than the number of jobs so there are allot of things that we can do to help ourselves while waiting for the opportunity that we are praying for


The problem of young graduates is that they are not open minded to see that there are allot of opportunities in where we live that we can do and be successful our destinies is not limited to our fields of study only so we should be able to make our selfs do useful by creating opportunities for our self by venturing into something productive that will be of help to ourselves



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May 16, 2025, 11:49:26 PM
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It's for all these reasons that it's complicated to advise one's children. I've seen reports about American students who begin their working lives heavily in debt and have no choice but to accept any job to pay off the bank.

In France, we have the astonishing example of François Xavier Demaison, who had a brilliant education and even worked at Landwell & Associates in New York as a tax lawyer, before dropping everything to become a comedian.

It takes courage to change your life, or even to realize that your studies aren't leading to your dream job.
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It's for all these reasons that it's complicated to advise one's children. I've seen reports about American students who begin their working lives heavily in debt and have no choice but to accept any job to pay off the bank.
That is true and I've also seen someone who's almost paid off the debt based on his calculations but due to the interest that it has got, it's not even half that was slashed to his debt.

It takes courage to change your life, or even to realize that your studies aren't leading to your dream job.
The reality kicks hard to everyone of us. When we picture out the whole situation and our dream jobs and goals are way too high, we just go ahead and deal with the reality but it doesn't mean to stop believing and going for that dream job. Me, even if I am already old, I still have those dream jobs that I want to experience but it's probably just for the experience and no longer for living.


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The reality kicks hard to everyone of us. When we picture out the whole situation and our dream jobs and goals are way too high, we just go ahead and deal with the reality but it doesn't mean to stop believing and going for that dream job. Me, even if I am already old, I still have those dream jobs that I want to experience but it's probably just for the experience and no longer for living.


It's not necessarily that we set the bar too high (as we say in french), it's also that we realize that the job we wanted didn't actually match what we wanted. Or that during our studies, reality changed so much that our skills became obsolete before we even finished (especially with AI). And who wants to do the same job all his life? Unless it's truly a passion, of course.

And when you're lucky enough to find a job that matches your studies but you're working 60 hours a week, even if you're well paid, you realize that free time is ultimately more important than money, right?
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It's for all these reasons that it's complicated to advise one's children. I've seen reports about American students who begin their working lives heavily in debt and have no choice but to accept any job to pay off the bank.

In France, we have the astonishing example of François Xavier Demaison, who had a brilliant education and even worked at Landwell & Associates in New York as a tax lawyer, before dropping everything to become a comedian.

It takes courage to change your life, or even to realize that your studies aren't leading to your dream job.
In essence, in work there must be inspiration by having to try something that can really change life, even though at first it is not liked, but what's wrong with trying, the important thing is to do it first, yes, that is the answer for now because there are many examples of people who change jobs and they feel suitable in their new job, and that is something important in their lives.
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Or that during our studies, reality changed so much that our skills became obsolete before we even finished (especially with AI). And who wants to do the same job all his life? Unless it's truly a passion, of course.

The advancement of AI is inevitable but that should not be the reason to stop us from pursuing our chosen career or compete with it. AI are meant to assist people not replace human workers. As you've said, human would't want to do repetitive tasks. Even if you're passionate on what you're doing, you would still prefer convenience if something can make your job faster and more efficient.

And when you're lucky enough to find a job that matches your studies but you're working 60 hours a week, even if you're well paid, you realize that free time is ultimately more important than money, right?


As you grow old and able to accumulate enough amount of money and investments to live comfortably, you realize that earning big is not necessary anymore. Even if you like your job but can't enjoy a life outside of it will definitely cause you a burnout.


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In essence, in work there must be inspiration by having to try something that can really change life, even though at first it is not liked, but what's wrong with trying, the important thing is to do it first, yes, that is the answer for now because there are many examples of people who change jobs and they feel suitable in their new job, and that is something important in their lives.
Trying something new for the purpose of getting a change in life is a very natural thing and what you said is clearly true because for those who don't want to try new things, of course they won't get a more serious change in their lives unless the income in their old job has increased more and also sharper than the previous months. In addition, in terms of trying a new job, it will always give birth to two different possibilities, namely success or failure, but trying is something that should be done because by doing so we can measure our level of ability in the new job so that we can think of finding another way if we are still not successful in the job.

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The reality kicks hard to everyone of us. When we picture out the whole situation and our dream jobs and goals are way too high, we just go ahead and deal with the reality but it doesn't mean to stop believing and going for that dream job. Me, even if I am already old, I still have those dream jobs that I want to experience but it's probably just for the experience and no longer for living.

It's not necessarily that we set the bar too high (as we say in french), it's also that we realize that the job we wanted didn't actually match what we wanted. Or that during our studies, reality changed so much that our skills became obsolete before we even finished (especially with AI). And who wants to do the same job all his life? Unless it's truly a passion, of course.
That's one thing in today's time, the AI. Many of these courses and studies that have been countered by AI is now taking over. But I believe that someday, we'd see it neutralized. And yes, no one would like to work the same job all of their lives but I think it depends on the culture like in Japan. They would love to stay for one single company until their retirement so it really differs per work culture and country.

And when you're lucky enough to find a job that matches your studies but you're working 60 hours a week, even if you're well paid, you realize that free time is ultimately more important than money, right?
Exactly. As we grow older, we realize that time is the one that we need to spend with our family and despite having enough money to cover the cost of everything. It hits differently when you're missing a lot of family trips, occasions and other important gatherings.


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In essence, in work there must be inspiration by having to try something that can really change life, even though at first it is not liked, but what's wrong with trying, the important thing is to do it first, yes, that is the answer for now because there are many examples of people who change jobs and they feel suitable in their new job, and that is something important in their lives.
Trying something new for the purpose of getting a change in life is a very natural thing and what you said is clearly true because for those who don't want to try new things, of course they won't get a more serious change in their lives unless the income in their old job has increased more and also sharper than the previous months. In addition, in terms of trying a new job, it will always give birth to two different possibilities, namely success or failure, but trying is something that should be done because by doing so we can measure our level of ability in the new job so that we can think of finding another way if we are still not successful in the job.
People who are afraid or lazy to try new things can remain stagnant and not achieve much in life, if you learn to explore you can achieve so much more. Most rich people don't depend on only one source of income, they diversify and get a skill or a side job then ultimately they invest in a valuable asset like Bitcoin. If what you're doing is not giving you the type of results and lifestyle that you think you deserve, you need to think outside your comfort zone and look for better opportunities. You can't keep doing the same thing and expect a different result, always try to improve yourself and position yourself for greater opportunities.

 
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moral of the lesson, dont hope or expect that what you learnt in school must pay. most rich people today didn't achieve success from what they studied in school but what they could offer after graduating. dont despise the days of your little beginning.
The fact is indeed this is the case but we also should not underestimate the school because that's where someone stands on science. It is precisely the problem with people thinking that school can make someone richer even though the function of the school is not for that. Our mindset is fooled by previous people because they think with high school we will easily achieve wealth. People wrongly assess the function of the school and most people don't understand what the school is for?

To achieve wealth financially has nothing to do with schools and should be in addition to the discussion without further linked. If someone wants to get wealth then they must know the exact steps that can be addressed and may need capital, networks and other supporting factors that can get wealth.

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moral of the lesson, dont hope or expect that what you learnt in school must pay. most rich people today didn't achieve success from what they studied in school but what they could offer after graduating. dont despise the days of your little beginning.
The fact is indeed this is the case but we also should not underestimate the school because that's where someone stands on science. It is precisely the problem with people thinking that school can make someone richer even though the function of the school is not for that. Our mindset is fooled by previous people because they think with high school we will easily achieve wealth. People wrongly assess the function of the school and most people don't understand what the school is for?

To achieve wealth financially has nothing to do with schools and should be in addition to the discussion without further linked. If someone wants to get wealth then they must know the exact steps that can be addressed and may need capital, networks and other supporting factors that can get wealth.

What if living with reasonable comfort, without being rich but having time to see your friends, your family, play with your children, wouldn't that be the goal of life? Is being rich really interesting if you no longer have time to go out for a drink with your friends or go fishing (or other hobbies)? Who are these people who accumulate wealth by working a lot and wait until retirement to really live?
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I guess it depends on the industry because there will always be a job anywhere in the world that might suit you if you have that degree. But making sure that you have the right tools and are equipped with the education that a job may require, I think it wouldn’t be so hard to get a job if that’s what you really want. Maybe it also depends on the place that the person is talking about.
To have a degree is not the main factor of employment in recent times, but to be actually employable. Most degree holders now aren't properly skilled even in their discipline, thereby making it difficult for themselves to be employed by private firms who are very strict on productivity rather than certificate.

Graduates should strive to have specialized knowledge in their chosen skills so as to stand out during employment processes. It is even very possible for skilled persons to have their own startups, they can prepare a convincing business proposals and end up receiving grants to run their private firms and get self-employed.

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Waiting for a high paying job after graduation is not bad but you should be productive even while waiting. These days, there are many opportunities online for graduates to get jobs with limited bottlenecks. All they need to do is to relevant knowledge which might take few months or years to acquire.

In my country there is high rate of unemployment, so I always advice undergraduates to learn a skill during or after their higher institution years. This is because they can use the skill to start earning even as they wait to land the bigger jobs.
What you said is also not wrong, waiting for the highest salary after graduating from college according to the college but on the other hand you also don't just wait and wait you need to be productive. The point is to work according to your passion and hobby. Live according to your time, and do what you love and better yet a passion that produces.

Don't work because you are forced to, let alone work following the wishes of your parents and others, you have to do this and that. Moreover, only relying on a graduation certificate so that you don't try anything else. Even though it is the will of your parents who pay for your school until you graduate, but if they say you have to work like this, that's a big mistake. Our thinking is different from theirs, especially now in the millennial era, we can choose a job that suits our passion and hobby. For example, becoming a YouTuber, becoming an online seller, becoming an entrepreneur, innovator, and so on.

Don't aspire too much to become a civil servant or work in a gas or oil company according to your diploma, because that only makes you lazy. Can't develop, because you are trapped in your comfort zone. You have potential, develop your potential, make yourself a successful person in the future by changing your mindset.

 
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May 17, 2025, 05:01:53 PM
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moral of the lesson, dont hope or expect that what you learnt in school must pay. most rich people today didn't achieve success from what they studied in school but what they could offer after graduating. dont despise the days of your little beginning.
Most people are not aware that it is not everything you want in life that you will get. The earlier one has a plan B, the better. This has also been a problem for many graduates, who believe they must get the particular job that is related to their course of study in school. It is very important to have other plans and skills at hand because life is unpredictable. In my country, most of the graduates working are not in the same field of work as what they studied in the university, and people are ready to grab any opportunity as a career.

 
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