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May 12, 2025, 08:53:07 AM
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If you are free who gona work ?
Elite don't worry about money they got enough access to money to have money enough.
What they are worried about is that societies collapse because of more and more people become Free.
If you are free then who will work ?
So they will know bring in more crisis to keep people chained yes you can still get free but it's harder only the smartest and most with knowledge will deserve financial freedom.
All this Crisis let's be honest:
What crisis? Does a cow produce less milk? Does less oil come from the ground? Does less potatoes grow in the fields? It's not like that, these crises are all lies, the cow still gives milk and food grows enough and oil, etc., everything is enough.
Now that wars are becoming less and more peace, there will be even more excess oil. Leave this crisis talk to who benefits from it? Not us, we can't get money for it, so we don't want to listen this nonsense
In life don't get involved things If there is no direct relations for you how you benefit of it

Yes If elite pays me money i can talk their story and promote crisis everywhere but If i don't get nothing from it i don't support.
Money talks and elite rulers should start pay first before anyone support their ideas.

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May 12, 2025, 09:52:53 AM
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All this Crisis let's be honest:
What crisis? Does a cow produce less milk? Does less oil come from the ground? Does less potatoes grow in the fields? It's not like that, these crises are all lies, the cow still gives milk and food grows enough and oil, etc., everything is enough.

You must really be some 8yo who has been left alone!

Oil doesn't just come out of the ground, cows need to be fed and bred, you need equipment to plow the fields to grow crops.
Once a thing in this chain becomes more expensive the finished product also costs more, once a war start somewhere there is less of that product so less of that finished product.

You will still make the same mount of potatoes from the same batch of seeds but what happens when you have no fertilizer or you have nobody to work the fields? What happens when there is no money the bank is willing to lend you to buy farming equipment?

Stop playing farmville and go to school kid!

Now that wars are becoming less and more peace, there will be even more excess oil.

You have to a special kind of moron to not understand that peace means economic expansion as everyone is happy and thinks about growing their business, traveling and more.



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May 12, 2025, 10:52:53 AM
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First: freedom does not cause collapse. Mismanaged freedom, combined with structural incompetence, does. People are mostly in survival mode and aren't really looking for freedom

Second, your crisis denial is laziness. Supply chains exist. Global logistics exist. How people get milk, oil, and potatoes is affected by financial tools, the liquidity of currencies, and their reliance on energy. No, it's not about whether or not the cow gives milk. It concerns the price, transportation, storage, and availability to the milk. The leverage lies there

By the way, what do you mean when you say that "the smartest and most with knowledge" should be the only ones to have financial independence? A caste system built on cognitive elitism while you scream about oppression? You just replaced one hierarchy with another and called it awakening

You do not believe in the system. Okay. But saying "I don't care if it doesn't pay me" shows that the system already has you. You are the product pretending to be the critic. If the only thing that matters to you is making money, then you've adopted the very logic that you say you don't agree with

 
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May 17, 2025, 11:45:41 AM
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I definitely agree with your opinion because everything thing we see in the world is orchestrated by the high and mighty in society so that the rest of the larger society can bit to their tune every society you see can't develop more than the people who controls that place because giving people freedom to live their life's means losing control over them and this is a very good tool in the hands of politicians that they normally use in controlling the rest of the society most important issues about unemployment, free education good health care and good roads has been turned into politics so that every election year they will be used as a political strategy in keeping the people hoping for good days ahead

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May 17, 2025, 08:23:41 PM
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Yes, the world elite is not interested in the majority of people becoming rich and free. Recently, many people have acquired capital and started living the life of a rentier.

There are especially many such people in Great Britain. At the same time, the quality of consumer services in Great Britain has fallen sharply. In many European countries, there are huge queues at pharmacies (this is due to the fact that no one wants to work as a pharmacist). All this leads to the fact that there is no one to work in factories, plants, in the fields, in the service sector. And besides, the population of the Earth, especially in developed countries, is steadily aging.

In addition, representatives of the world elite are not happy with the fact that the majority of the population of the Earth has received the opportunity to travel. Tourism has developed greatly recently, which leads to major environmental problems, because huge masses of people are moving around the planet. Representatives of the world elite do not want to see poor people (in their understanding) who came from developing countries as tourists next to them. 

Therefore, representatives of the world elites will do everything to ensure that global crises never end, so that the population of the Earth is constantly disoriented, frightened and in need.

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May 17, 2025, 09:40:29 PM
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Yes, the world elite is not interested in the majority of people becoming rich and free. Recently, many people have acquired capital and started living the life of a rentier.
It only makes sense. Though it highlights people’s individualism these days. We are all now selfishly putting ourselves first no matter what it takes.
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There are especially many such people in Great Britain. At the same time, the quality of consumer services in Great Britain has fallen sharply. In many European countries, there are huge queues at pharmacies (this is due to the fact that no one wants to work as a pharmacist). All this leads to the fact that there is no one to work in factories, plants, in the fields, in the service sector. And besides, the population of the Earth, especially in developed countries, is steadily aging.
Having citizens work non blue collar jobs is a good thing but too much and it becomes a problem. Now the country would have to go look somewhere else to fill in the gaps. Developing countries can take this opportunity to move to a better country and earn more even with blue collar jobs.
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I agree with you.
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May 19, 2025, 11:08:24 AM
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1.What crisis are you talking about? Economical crisis? Geopolitical crisis(Ukraine, Gaza, India-Pakistan, etc.)?
2.Who is getting freedom? If you are relying on a job and living paycheck to paycheck, then you are not free. If you are deep into consumer debt and you have a mortgage you are not free. Freedom is a philosophical category. Nobody is truly free in a society. If you are obeying the laws and norms of the society, you are not free. At least we don't live in slavery and feudalism, so most of the people have some basic civil rights, but absolute freedom cannot be achieved.
3.I don't believe that "the elite" wants a crisis. There's no single elite. The world is ruled by multiple elites. I don't want to get involved in conspiracy theories about "the secret evil global elite".

 
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May 19, 2025, 12:50:00 PM
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People make money from crises. This is why there will always be disagreements and fighting. The elites will always seek for means to cause conflict so that the people will not be United and fight for freedom. When people say that overpopulation is the cause of some global problems, I totally disagree because there are enough resources to satisfy the needs of everyone on Earth.

Yes If elite pays me money i can talk their story and promote crisis everywhere but If i don't get nothing from it i don't support.
Money talks and elite rulers should start pay first before anyone support their ideas.
If you want to be a better place, you shouldn't collect bribes to support criminal politicians. We want the world to be peaceful, so you shouldn't collect money to promote crisis.

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People make money from crises. This is why there will always be disagreements and fighting. The elites will always seek for means to cause conflict so that the people will not be United and fight for freedom. When people say that overpopulation is the cause of some global problems, I totally disagree because there are enough resources to satisfy the needs of everyone on Earth.

Yes If elite pays me money i can talk their story and promote crisis everywhere but If i don't get nothing from it i don't support.
Money talks and elite rulers should start pay first before anyone support their ideas.
If you want to be a better place, you shouldn't collect bribes to support criminal politicians. We want the world to be peaceful, so you shouldn't collect money to promote crisis.
This usually happens where no education and poverty is high here elite peoples buy some their agents and then started their job which bring conflicts and problems on name of religious and divided on linguistic grounds.
Currently, many African and Asian countries are having serious problems due to things like these and its never been easy to fix them because big players never want to give them chance of living with peace and harmony because this could be not ideal situation for their arms industries which are having all weapons for them recently India have $7 Billion deal with France.
Even India is one of the biggest country which is doing good development but still their major spendings going on arms and weapons because this is big market for few countries so they are always playing here dirty games in this region which is now shifting from Afghanistan to other side.
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Last edit: May 20, 2025, 08:09:01 AM by aoluain
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If you are free who gona work ?


Well in the near future thats gonna be generally AI and it will be the wealthy
who will benefit from that. So IMO there will be fewer people able to achieve financial
freedom, fewer people will be working and fewer people earning a wage.
But I'm trying to figure out how people are supposed to be financially free


Now that wars are becoming less and more peace,



Really? there is war in Ukraine and Sudan, there is an invasion and genocide in Gaza.
War is not getting less.

1.What crisis are you talking about? Economical crisis? Geopolitical crisis(Ukraine, Gaza, India-Pakistan, etc.)?


Yea I would love to know what crisis the OP is talking about, its seems like an
idea in the OP's mind but has struggled to get it written down.

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May 20, 2025, 08:47:40 AM
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If you are free who gona work ?
Elite don't worry about money they got enough access to money to have money enough.
What they are worried about is that societies collapse because of more and more people become Free.
If you are free then who will work ?
So they will know bring in more crisis to keep people chained yes you can still get free but it's harder only the smartest and most with knowledge will deserve financial freedom.
All this Crisis let's be honest:
What crisis? Does a cow produce less milk? Does less oil come from the ground? Does less potatoes grow in the fields? It's not like that, these crises are all lies, the cow still gives milk and food grows enough and oil, etc., everything is enough.
Now that wars are becoming less and more peace, there will be even more excess oil. Leave this crisis talk to who benefits from it? Not us, we can't get money for it, so we don't want to listen this nonsense
In life don't get involved things If there is no direct relations for you how you benefit of it
People getting freedom? Are you serious? Life is tough for many people. You can't get freedom when you pay half of your salary in taxes and 1/2 of the rest in rent and bills. It's very hard to escape the rat race and the world is designed to keep it hard. When you work in MacDonalds, despite the fact that store makes tons of money every month, how much do they pay to employees? They pay a tiny amount despite the fact that they make millions. If you want to get a better life, you should become skilled worker, not hard worker without skills. Skills are valued even if they are much easier to do than a construction work. That's how the society works and that's pretty logical.

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May 20, 2025, 09:49:04 AM
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Yes If elite pays me money i can talk their story and promote crisis everywhere but If i don't get nothing from it i don't support.

You will talk stories and spread hate... that "hate spreading" is what keeps wars alive around the globe, it's what keeps hot spots pretty hot. So they (politicians mostly & all others) create problems and talk about how they are the only ones who can solve them.

People getting freedom? Are you serious? Life is tough for many people. You can't get freedom when you pay half of your salary in taxes and 1/2 of the rest in rent and bills.

Well, life is tough for many, but at least people have more choices than before. Slavery was about dehumanization and forced hard work. We can't compare slavery with modern work, at least we can choose on what & where we wish to spend our salary. So I guess we can say we have more freedom in the 21st century, but it could be much much better for all the people in the world... if only there was less evil and more goodness.

 
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May 21, 2025, 10:54:07 AM
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People getting freedom? Are you serious? Life is tough for many people. You can't get freedom when you pay half of your salary in taxes and 1/2 of the rest in rent and bills.

Well, life is tough for many, but at least people have more choices than before. Slavery was about dehumanization and forced hard work. We can't compare slavery with modern work, at least we can choose on what & where we wish to spend our salary. So I guess we can say we have more freedom in the 21st century, but it could be much much better for all the people in the world... if only there was less evil and more goodness.
Not everyone has a choice. People who are born in rich countries, really have a choice but those who are born in poor countries, especially in poor families, don't really have a choice. Many families are so poor that when their kids grow up a little bit, they are forced to start work in unskilled jobs to earn some money, they also don't get a good education and this kills their future. Then their parents get old and they have to take care of them (it's how it works in my country) and this is also a burden on their backs. Many people grow up, start working, then take care of their parents, then they also get older, they have no wife, no kids (who wants a poor man?) and die alone, old and in poverty.

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