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May 13, 2025, 01:02:04 PM
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If I can show I still have my old login for BTC guild and prove I was mining would the old admin give a crumb of compassion if he saw that I never got my coins? I just didn't follow up and knew not about the project shutdown.

 
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If I can show I still have my old login for BTC guild and prove I was mining would the old admin give a crumb of compassion if he saw that I never got my coins? I just didn't follow up and knew not about the project shutdown.

 

I would say it is very unlikely they would refund you coins that you forgot to take out.

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May 15, 2025, 01:01:24 PM
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ppl might rarely forget to remove coins, i just didn't know, bit of a difference.
if i was in the position of the founders, i would oblige legit requesters, but most ppl wouldnt.


If I can show I still have my old login for BTC guild and prove I was mining would the old admin give a crumb of compassion if he saw that I never got my coins? I just didn't follow up and knew not about the project shutdown.

 

I would say it is very unlikely they would refund you coins that you forgot to take out.
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May 15, 2025, 01:06:59 PM
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ppl might rarely forget to remove coins, i just didn't know, bit of a difference.
if i was in the position of the founders, i would oblige legit requesters, but most ppl wouldnt.


If I can show I still have my old login for BTC guild and prove I was mining would the old admin give a crumb of compassion if he saw that I never got my coins? I just didn't follow up and knew not about the project shutdown.

 

I would say it is very unlikely they would refund you coins that you forgot to take out.


so that company closed more than than 9 years ago.(June 30 2015 just under 9 years)

they warned everyone for a year.

So the op thinks that they should or could get a refund with what amount .

pretend it was 1 btc at  the time.  make it go from say 257 to 103000

Even if they paid it off I do not think they could expect  103,000 and a full coin.

If anything they should go after New York State. As New York forced BTCguild to close down.

and New York State should have made all unclaimed funds be surrendered to the state

and New York State should have held them. ( this is what they do with bank accounts)

So send Andrew Cuomo a letter. tell him he mis handled the shut down and you expect a refund from NY

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May 15, 2025, 07:34:17 PM
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If I can show I still have my old login for BTC guild and prove I was mining would the old admin give a crumb of compassion if he saw that I never got my coins? I just didn't follow up and knew not about the project shutdown.

I would say it is very unlikely they would refund you coins that you forgot to take out.

I would agree with this take.  That is a long time and with Bitcoin's insane valuation increase, no matter how often people want to repeat it, 1 BTC does NOT equal 1 BTC.  At best, you could probably sue someone and try to recover the USD amount, but I'm certain that wouldn't be worth the effort for you or you wouldn't have left it there in the first place.

People don't seem to understand that Bitcoin isn't like the dollar.  When you spend Bitcoin, it is legally valued at the USD rate at the time of transfer.  You can't expect someone to honor your BTC price from a decade ago.

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May 16, 2025, 01:55:03 AM
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I would agree with this take.  That is a long time and with Bitcoin's insane valuation increase, no matter how often people want to repeat it, 1 BTC does NOT equal 1 BTC.  At best, you could probably sue someone and try to recover the USD amount, but I'm certain that wouldn't be worth the effort for you or you wouldn't have left it there in the first place.

The legal standard is usually where the party actually knew or where a reasonable person would have known that the access had been taken away.  Damages would be limited to the value of the bitcoin at that time. -- which is presumably not much or they wouldn't have ignored it.

Of course, an ambulance chaser lawyer could no doubt be found that would take basically any case with the hopes of scoring a settlement payout for themselves well beyond anything deserved just to get them to go away.

I feel bad for everyone who has ever run a bitcoin service, now exposed to a lifetime of claims for increasingly absurd amounts... often over imagined balances that never existed or were withdrawn and forgotten.  But even when they were real, over amounts that were inconsequential at the time.

I never did, but because I used to be listed on the website I still periodically get emails from people demanding and threatening me to give them access to wallets of bitcoin fortunes they claim they purchased in _2004_ or other impossible years.  I can't imagine what it's like for people that actually did hold coins for others at some point.  I also get insane messages because I was one of three potential signers on an escrow for a hack recovery bounty once, totally crazy.

Regarding unclaimed funds-- my understanding is that in most (all?) states those laws are not drafted in ways that apply to Bitcoin.   Anyone who did lose a real amount of coins with a service ought to try drafting a kind letter to ask for them, you might get lucky.  But be aware that that target of your letter is probably flooded with crazy threats and abuse, and won't want to help anything that looks more than that.

So you need to provide exactly the information to correctly identify your accounts and that you're the proper owner, and you need to be extremely professional and polite.  Being abusive or threatening will absolutely not help, it will guarantee that the only way to get anything would be via legal process and as I explained at the front you're probably not owed anything significant according to the law.

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May 16, 2025, 02:09:36 AM
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I would agree with this take.  That is a long time and with Bitcoin's insane valuation increase, no matter how often people want to repeat it, 1 BTC does NOT equal 1 BTC.  At best, you could probably sue someone and try to recover the USD amount, but I'm certain that wouldn't be worth the effort for you or you wouldn't have left it there in the first place.

The legal standard is usually where the party actually knew or where a reasonable person would have known that the access had been taken away.  Damages would be limited to the value of the bitcoin at that time. -- which is presumably not much or they wouldn't have ignored it.

Of course, an ambulance chaser lawyer could no doubt be found that would take basically any case with the hopes of scoring a settlement payout for themselves well beyond anything deserved just to get them to go away.

I feel bad for everyone who has ever run a bitcoin service, now exposed to a lifetime of claims for increasingly absurd amounts... often over imagined balances that never existed or were withdrawn and forgotten.  But even when they were real, over amounts that were inconsequential at the time.

I never did, but because I used to be listed on the website I still periodically get emails from people demanding and threatening me to give them access to wallets of bitcoin fortunes they claim they purchased in _2004_ or other impossible years.  I can't imagine what it's like for people that actually did hold coins for others at some point.  I also get insane messages because I was one of three potential signers on an escrow for a hack recovery bounty once, totally crazy.

Regarding unclaimed funds-- my understanding is that in most (all?) states those laws are not drafted in ways that apply to Bitcoin.   Anyone who did lose a real amount of coins with a service ought to try drafting a kind letter to ask for them, you might get lucky.  But be aware that that target of your letter is probably flooded with crazy threats and abuse, and won't want to help anything that looks more than that.

So you need to provide exactly the information to correctly identify your accounts and that you're the proper owner, and you need to be extremely professional and polite.  Being abusive or threatening will absolutely not help, it will guarantee that the only way to get anything would be via legal process and as I explained at the front you're probably not owed anything significant according to the law.



Yeah no laws were drafted at the time with coins in mind.

rulings should have been set when the state banned BTC guild.

If  anyone should be held to task it is New York State not BTC Guild

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