Buying/Selling BTC and XMR in person for cash in the USA? Which marketplaces?

[megalotz]

Where can I buy/sell BTC and XMR in person for cash like localbitcoins.com back in the day, where you setup the meeting, meet and do the transaction in person for cash. A lot of these websites came and went, what are the current ones where I can find a counterparty to trade with in person?

[Potato Chips]

You could try to look into these privacy oriented p2p exchanges in kycnot.me see: https://kycnot.me/?categories=exchange&currency-mode=and&currencies=xmr&currencies=cash

There's also https://localcoinswap.com with cash in person supported but there's no XMR, only bitcoin.

[GreatArkansas]

If problem is getting XMR which some exchanges or some P2P exchanges don't support. And I think best way is to get first buy Bitcoin using fiat to via P2p then later on, you can swap the Bitcoin to XMR.

[el kaka22]

Reddit still has places where you can do this, but I would like to warn you that if you really want XMR then it is going to be very tough, not because you can't find anyone, but because it's very risky and grey area still in many nations. USA is not sure, I haven't been there so I do not know their situation, but I know they are very keen on KYC, they even punished Binance 4 billion dollars about it, and even jailed CZ for it.

So I am pretty sure that if you are ever facing a judge, they would probably side with risky side, so you should think twice. But aside from that, yeah just do what you should with Reddit, and you can find people who are willing to make that trade with some profit, so you would pay a bit more but can do it.

[logfiles]

Have you tried checking out Robotsats before? That is when exchange where you won't expect KYC. Here is their clearnet; https://robosats.org/ Here is their Tor mirror: http://robosatsy56bwqn56qyadmcxkx767hnabg4mihxlmgyt6if5gnuxvzad.onion/ (this could change from time to time due to DDoS attacks)

However, I don't know why you prefer meeting your trading partner in person since this type of trading is sensitive? What if the FBI is on the other end, and you just take yourself to them? What if robbers are on the other side? Be careful. Safely first.

[Potato Chips]

However, I don't know why you prefer meeting your trading partner in person since this type of trading is sensitive? What if the FBI is on the other end, and you just take yourself to them? What if robbers are on the other side? Be careful. Safely first.

Oh yeah, especially when wrench attacks have been on the rise as well, plus I don't think everything gets reported.

At the very least, I would keep the trade at a humble amount. You go big and there's a good chance you'd appear as a loaded person which is very attractive to perpetrators. Not saying op is safe at humble amounts ofc, as there's always a chance you'd meet bad actors. Though, you do ramp up the odds with huge trade amounts.

[sheenshane]

Where can I buy/sell BTC and XMR in person for cash like localbitcoins.com back in the day, where you setup the meeting, meet and do the transaction in person for cash. A lot of these websites came and went, what are the current ones where I can find a counterparty to trade with in person?

Is that a large amount?
Meeting in person is very risky, it puts your life in danger when dealing with people directly.

P2P would be a great help at this point, it's safe and involves no physical contact, as mentioned above.
However, keep in mind that trading or holding XMR is not illegal in your country, but exchanges may avoid listing it to comply with regulations if you choose CEXs and restrict US users due to compliance issues.

IMO, I suggest buying BTC/ETH and converting XMR on the DEX.

[logfiles]

Oh yeah, especially when wrench attacks have been on the rise as well, plus I don't think everything gets reported.

At the very least, I would keep the trade at a humble amount. You go big and there's a good chance you'd appear as a loaded person which is very attractive to perpetrators. Not saying op is safe at humble amounts ofc, as there's always a chance you'd meet bad actors. Though, you do ramp up the odds with huge trade amounts.

In a wrap, he just needs to completely avoid that XMR in person for a cash option. Way too risky. You automatically become a target to any malicious counterparty. Another disadvantage is that he won't get so many offers of someone willing to meet him, in case the other party is also security sensitive.

[coyhasmon]

Oh yeah, especially when wrench attacks have been on the rise as well, plus I don't think everything gets reported.

At the very least, I would keep the trade at a humble amount. You go big and there's a good chance you'd appear as a loaded person which is very attractive to perpetrators. Not saying op is safe at humble amounts ofc, as there's always a chance you'd meet bad actors. Though, you do ramp up the odds with huge trade amounts.

In a wrap, he just needs to completely avoid that XMR in person for a cash option. Way too risky. You automatically become a target to any malicious counterparty. Another disadvantage is that he won't get so many offers of someone willing to meet him, in case the other party is also security sensitive.

Why do you consider it more risky? I mean the same security problems apply for both coins when dealing with them in person.

[logfiles]

Why do you consider it more risky? I mean the same security problems apply for both coins when dealing with them in person.

You become exposed to risks such as getting kidnapped by robbers or malicious actors. This is not possible if you are doing exchanges that involve only online payments. The kidnappers could do anything to you, from forcing you to make transfers because they know you have the money to just killing you

I say all this because I have seen or heard about it happening.

[BitMaxz]

You become exposed to risks such as getting kidnapped by robbers or malicious actors. This is not possible if you are doing exchanges that involve only online payments. The kidnappers could do anything to you, from forcing you to make transfers because they know you have the money to just killing you

I say all this because I have seen or heard about it happening.

But still, we can deal with someone in person. If you are dealing with someone in person, you should meet at a place with a secure environment, like a mall. There's no difference in dealing with real money if you are selling a service or a product. If you deal with someone in person, do you think they will kidnap or rob you inside the mall?
It happens, but in rare cases, so after the deal is done, don't let him follow you; always walk with many people.

[Catenaccio]

But still, we can deal with someone in person. If you are dealing with someone in person, you should meet at a place with a secure environment, like a mall. There's no difference in dealing with real money if you are selling a service or a product. If you deal with someone in person, do you think they will kidnap or rob you inside the mall?

It is potentially very good trading method, peer to peer, and in person directly. Your trade can easily be done with cash but it raises a big concern about cash that can be legit one from central bank printing or from scammers with fake cash. You can not verify it if you only trade in person directly at a public place like a mall.

You can do it at bank and there will be more radars on you and your trade partner. In a summary, there is no perfect trading method and you must consider of pros and cons for anonymity, privacy and safety before excecuting your trade with a chosen trading method. All possible consequences of a trade must be taken into account and you should never exclude negative outcomes of your trade.

It happens, but in rare cases, so after the deal is done, don't let him follow you; always walk with many people.

It can be dangerous physical attacks after you finish your trade. It's biggest risk of this trading method.

[BitMaxz]

It is potentially very good trading method, peer to peer, and in person directly. Your trade can easily be done with cash but it raises a big concern about cash that can be legit one from central bank printing or from scammers with fake cash. You can not verify it if you only trade in person directly at a public place like a mall.

If that's your problem then learn how to detect counterfeit cash learning this shouldn't be hard or buy a dollar bill UV detector you can scan them one by one but if you are dealing with big amount the cash counter with UV counterfeit detector is best option this machine is cheap to avoid fake money.

It can be dangerous physical attacks after you finish your trade. It's biggest risk of this trading method.

I don't know where you live but as I said a mall with tight security shouldn't be risky as you think.

Or much better choice go to a bank I'm sure they have a tight security plus after dealing in person inside the bank why not directly submit the money to deposit into your bank account. Bank staffs will help determine if the cash bills are fake.

[logfiles]

But still, we can deal with someone in person. If you are dealing with someone in person, you should meet at a place with a secure environment, like a mall. There's no difference in dealing with real money if you are selling a service or a product. If you deal with someone in person, do you think they will kidnap or rob you inside the mall?

I am not saying you will get attacked in the mall. The other party could stalk/surveil you for months before making a move. Also, there's a difference between selling a service or product which in most cases might just be in small amounts but even then I think you have seen cases of people getting into stores to rob at gun point. Now imagine if someone knows that you have more than 0.5 BTC that you want to exchange for cash, or you have $50K cash, and you want to buy XMR. Firstly, they will know there's more from where that come from, and you instantly turn into a moving mini bank with no security which is an easy target.

[coyhasmon]

But still, we can deal with someone in person. If you are dealing with someone in person, you should meet at a place with a secure environment, like a mall. There's no difference in dealing with real money if you are selling a service or a product. If you deal with someone in person, do you think they will kidnap or rob you inside the mall?

I am not saying you will get attacked in the mall. The other party could stalk/surveil you for months before making a move. Also, there's a difference between selling a service or product which in most cases might just be in small amounts but even then I think you have seen cases of people getting into stores to rob at gun point. Now imagine if someone knows that you have more than 0.5 BTC that you want to exchange for cash, or you have $50K cash, and you want to buy XMR. Firstly, they will know there's more from where that come from, and you instantly turn into a moving mini bank with no security which is an easy target.

You have watched a few too many action movies. The other party does not know who you are, and how dangerous you and your connections could be. No legitimate trader is going to risk their life over such a small amount of money by doing something like this. In real life something like that pretty much never happens. If you do happen to read a story like that congratulations you just confirmed that it basically never happens. You hear only 1 time a deal went bad, but you don't hear about the thousands or millions of deals that were successful and finished without any issues.
If you do a deal with some shady people who are not reputable traders, or some scammers then that is something else.