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July 22, 2025, 07:51:46 AM
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There's no problem between Vinicius and Mbappé. This is just news that's been constantly pushed by the media without any clear explanation or evidence. It's simply because Real Madrid's attack played poorly last season, leading many to speculate that Vinicius and Mbappé don't have a good relationship. But I don't think so.
I'm also confident that Vinicius and Mbappé won't be sold; this is Real Madrid's long-term plan for their attack.

Under Xabi Alonso, we don't know what strategy he'll employ, but what's certain is that Vinicius and Mbappé will remain in their positions and both will continue to play in Real Madrid's starting lineup.

Yes there is no problem between Kylian Mbappe and Vinicius Jr but mentally i will say that Vinicius Jr felt intimidated when Kylian Mbappe stepped into the squad because initially Vinicius Jr was always the player to look out for but when Mbappe came in, the attention shifted from Vinicius Jr to Kylian Mbappe. However, Real Madrid is very much interested in both players, i don't think they have any plan of selling either of them in the short run so what Xabi Alonso need to do is to see how he can be able to convince both players on the need for them to work together towards the growth of the team and disregard their individual sentiments against each other. Kylian Mbappe is good, same as Vinicius Jr so they should be happy that they are playing in one of the best teams in Europe and they are earning huge, it will be better they stop the competition against each other and understand that the only competition is to beat their opponents and emerge victorious in matches then win trophies for the club.

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July 22, 2025, 07:57:39 AM
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Instead of selling Vinicius, Real Madrid should focus on strengthening their squad to win trophies again. Vinicius has been a key player in the Real Madrid squad and has contributed significantly to their trophy wins. He's not always fit, so Real Madrid needs to find a suitable replacement to provide backup in case something goes wrong. If Real Madrid wants to sell one of its stars, Mbappe is the perfect person to let go because since his arrival at Real Madrid, he has created many gaps in the team. His selfishness made the attacking line unproductive and other players lost their passion for the game. Conversely, PSG achieved great success after his departure.

Vinicius and Mbappe are not for sale, and your wish likely won't come true. Madrid will let Rodrygo go for now, but when talking about Mbappe ego, let's not forget Vinicius on field ego. Luckily coach Xabi Alonso is now pressuring his players to work together, so we can see Vinicius starting to tone down his ego on the pitch. I have to admit, when Vini and Mbappe play in a lineup, they often jostle for position. If they continue like this, people will prefer to see Gonzalo Garcia. I think it's better for Vini and Mbappe to share a position for a while, unless they're willing to tone down their egos.
They are both proud and that's why you see them behaving like that, because Vini feels he is the best in Madrid before Mbappe came. Mbappe wants to prove to Vini that he's better than him. That's just what's happening. Both of them are playing same wing initially before Mbappe came to Madrid. It will be the best for both of them and Real Madrid if they can kill their ego and play like a team.

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July 22, 2025, 08:07:48 AM
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Instead of selling Vinicius, Real Madrid should focus on strengthening their squad to win trophies again. Vinicius has been a key player in the Real Madrid squad and has contributed significantly to their trophy wins. He's not always fit, so Real Madrid needs to find a suitable replacement to provide backup in case something goes wrong. If Real Madrid wants to sell one of its stars, Mbappe is the perfect person to let go because since his arrival at Real Madrid, he has created many gaps in the team. His selfishness made the attacking line unproductive and other players lost their passion for the game. Conversely, PSG achieved great success after his departure.

Vinicius and Mbappe are not for sale, and your wish likely won't come true. Madrid will let Rodrygo go for now, but when talking about Mbappe ego, let's not forget Vinicius on field ego. Luckily coach Xabi Alonso is now pressuring his players to work together, so we can see Vinicius starting to tone down his ego on the pitch. I have to admit, when Vini and Mbappe play in a lineup, they often jostle for position. If they continue like this, people will prefer to see Gonzalo Garcia. I think it's better for Vini and Mbappe to share a position for a while, unless they're willing to tone down their egos.
They are both proud and that's why you see them behaving like that, because Vini feels he is the best in Madrid before Mbappe came. Mbappe wants to prove to Vini that he's better than him. That's just what's happening. Both of them are playing same wing initially before Mbappe came to Madrid. It will be the best for both of them and Real Madrid if they can kill their ego and play like a team.

Both players are very good players whenever they are with the ball but the behavior they have when they play together can be converted from being bad to good and that's where the young manager Xabi Alonso needs to do a very good work to make sure his players focus on team work and let the pride and ego which makes them to play individual football go away for the team to achieve a better result. Vini was a player of Real Madrid before Mbappe but now they are playing together they should use the pride to win trophies and see how the awards will be given to them without stress. Ancelotti is out next season both Mbappe and Vini Junior will be giving their best for the betterment of the team if they want to win trophies.

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July 22, 2025, 08:11:07 AM
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There's no problem between Vinicius and Mbappé. This is just news that's been constantly pushed by the media without any clear explanation or evidence. It's simply because Real Madrid's attack played poorly last season, leading many to speculate that Vinicius and Mbappé don't have a good relationship. But I don't think so.
I'm also confident that Vinicius and Mbappé won't be sold; this is Real Madrid's long-term plan for their attack.

Under Xabi Alonso, we don't know what strategy he'll employ, but what's certain is that Vinicius and Mbappé will remain in their positions and both will continue to play in Real Madrid's starting lineup.

This is not about media pushing anything about the two players, it's about what we saw during their play together in almost every game. I'm not saying there's problem between Vini and Mbappe but judging from what we normally watch, something is not actually right between the two of them because you could clearly see the passion to dominate and the exhibition of selfishness which immensely contributed to the attack failure last season. Both Vini and Mbappe are good assets for any team but they can only achieve success together only if they unite themselves and do away with their personal ego.

 
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July 22, 2025, 08:36:54 AM
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There's no problem between Vinicius and Mbappé. This is just news that's been constantly pushed by the media without any clear explanation or evidence. It's simply because Real Madrid's attack played poorly last season, leading many to speculate that Vinicius and Mbappé don't have a good relationship. But I don't think so.
I'm also confident that Vinicius and Mbappé won't be sold; this is Real Madrid's long-term plan for their attack.

Under Xabi Alonso, we don't know what strategy he'll employ, but what's certain is that Vinicius and Mbappé will remain in their positions and both will continue to play in Real Madrid's starting lineup.
Yep, both are supporting each other.

It's the fans who make the situation looks bad, the same thing happened to Ronaldo and Messi, both were very supportive, but people are hating each other to feel their own satisfy.

Vinicius was fine with his new role to support Mbappe, but we don't know for the upcoming season with Xabi's strategy, as we can see in Club World Cup, Xabi place Mbappe in his main position as a left winger, then he place a real striker in center forward.

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July 22, 2025, 09:23:07 AM
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If not for the arrival of Mbappe, Vinicius was the best player in Real Madrid that you can count on whenever Madrid needs a win in any match. You should see how important and good he is at his to the extent that Ancelotti have to convert Mbappe into a central forward instead, of allowing Mbappe play to play on Vini's wing. Vini will not be sold because the club needs him more than the Arab men.

Vini is no doubt an important player for Real Madrid in both Ancelotti and this present Xabi Alonso's era if he wasn't Xabi would've tried to offload him just like he's doing with Rodrygo currently but he has a major role to play for Xabi Alonso when the season start that's why he's untouchable. Real Madrid is yet to bounce back hopefully we'll see a different Madrid when the new season starts, but right now Xabi has lots of work to do in the preseason by drilling his players to improve better and give their best ahead of the new season he also has to use this period to know the suitable positions that would suit soke players and help them do better.
The real problem for Real Madrid is their midfield woes. As we saw last year, Kroos' absence significantly impacted Real Madrid. To avoid a similar problem this year, I believe they need to make a transfer in this area. Vinicius, Mbappé, Rodrygo, and Bellingham are all effective attacking players for this team. However, they lack a master of control in midfield. A transfer in that area would raise the team's level. However, they probably haven't figured out who to bring in for this position. I'm sure manager Xabi Alonso has a plan.
I don't understand how you see the problem in Real Madrid's midfield. You might be thinking that Madrid's midfield used to have Toni Kroos and Luka Modrić and Real Madrid released these two players and that's why you think Real Madrid's midfield is weak, if you think like that then I would say you are wrong. Real Madrid released Luka Modrić and Toni Kroos because they already have several capable midfielders in the club like Jude Bellingham and Federico Valverde. If you talk about Real Madrid's problems then you definitely have to talk about Real Madrid's defense position. Real Madrid finished the last season with a bad experience in defense. The main reason for such a bad defense is the injuries of regular players. When Real Madrid takes the field with an injury-free XI, Real Madrid will undoubtedly be the most dangerous team among European clubs.

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July 22, 2025, 09:27:45 AM
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Instead of selling Vinicius, Real Madrid should focus on strengthening their squad to win trophies again. Vinicius has been a key player in the Real Madrid squad and has contributed significantly to their trophy wins. He's not always fit, so Real Madrid needs to find a suitable replacement to provide backup in case something goes wrong. If Real Madrid wants to sell one of its stars, Mbappe is the perfect person to let go because since his arrival at Real Madrid, he has created many gaps in the team. His selfishness made the attacking line unproductive and other players lost their passion for the game. Conversely, PSG achieved great success after his departure.

Vinicius and Mbappe are not for sale, and your wish likely won't come true. Madrid will let Rodrygo go for now, but when talking about Mbappe ego, let's not forget Vinicius on field ego. Luckily coach Xabi Alonso is now pressuring his players to work together, so we can see Vinicius starting to tone down his ego on the pitch. I have to admit, when Vini and Mbappe play in a lineup, they often jostle for position. If they continue like this, people will prefer to see Gonzalo Garcia. I think it's better for Vini and Mbappe to share a position for a while, unless they're willing to tone down their egos.
They are both proud and that's why you see them behaving like that, because Vini feels he is the best in Madrid before Mbappe came. Mbappe wants to prove to Vini that he's better than him. That's just what's happening. Both of them are playing same wing initially before Mbappe came to Madrid. It will be the best for both of them and Real Madrid if they can kill their ego and play like a team.

Both players are very good players whenever they are with the ball but the behavior they have when they play together can be converted from being bad to good and that's where the young manager Xabi Alonso needs to do a very good work to make sure his players focus on team work and let the pride and ego which makes them to play individual football go away for the team to achieve a better result. Vini was a player of Real Madrid before Mbappe but now they are playing together they should use the pride to win trophies and see how the awards will be given to them without stress. Ancelotti is out next season both Mbappe and Vini Junior will be giving their best for the betterment of the team if they want to win trophies.
exactly, the most difficult job there is for the coach, and it is a very difficult job, due to the difficulties he finds himself in due to the fact that the players are young and talented, and can create problems, I understand the difficulty but he must move forward and try to unite these players and make them become a strong team like it was before

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July 22, 2025, 09:46:48 AM
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The real problem for Real Madrid is their midfield woes. As we saw last year, Kroos' absence significantly impacted Real Madrid. To avoid a similar problem this year, I believe they need to make a transfer in this area. Vinicius, Mbappé, Rodrygo, and Bellingham are all effective attacking players for this team. However, they lack a master of control in midfield. A transfer in that area would raise the team's level. However, they probably haven't figured out who to bring in for this position. I'm sure manager Xabi Alonso has a plan.
I don't understand how you see the problem in Real Madrid's midfield. You might be thinking that Madrid's midfield used to have Toni Kroos and Luka Modrić and Real Madrid released these two players and that's why you think Real Madrid's midfield is weak, if you think like that then I would say you are wrong. Real Madrid released Luka Modrić and Toni Kroos because they already have several capable midfielders in the club like Jude Bellingham and Federico Valverde. If you talk about Real Madrid's problems then you definitely have to talk about Real Madrid's defense position. Real Madrid finished the last season with a bad experience in defense. The main reason for such a bad defense is the injuries of regular players. When Real Madrid takes the field with an injury-free XI, Real Madrid will undoubtedly be the most dangerous team among European clubs.

No that's not a right statement, but then if I'm to be honest I'll agree that there would be slight difference in that Midfield compared to when Kroos and Modric was available, they used their experience over the years to control it properly and made it very strong so since they've left it won't be as strong as it used to be but that doesn't mean it would be very weak.

 They still have Jude Bellingham, Tchouameni, Valverde, Camavinga, Ceballos and lots more who must have learnt one or two from those Og's that left the team and they'll try keep that area solid till it's very strong enough again, it's Xabi Alonso's work to ensure that it becomes possible he has to made the team very strong again and compete against bigger team, what happened in the Club World Cup is so embarrassing and they should avoid repeating such errors and exposing the teams weakness.

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July 22, 2025, 11:17:38 AM
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Yes there is no problem between Kylian Mbappe and Vinicius Jr but mentally i will say that Vinicius Jr felt intimidated when Kylian Mbappe stepped into the squad because initially Vinicius Jr was always the player to look out for but when Mbappe came in, the attention shifted from Vinicius Jr to Kylian Mbappe. However, Real Madrid is very much interested in both players, i don't think they have any plan of selling either of them in the short run so what Xabi Alonso need to do is to see how he can be able to convince both players on the need for them to work together towards the growth of the team and disregard their individual sentiments against each other. Kylian Mbappe is good, same as Vinicius Jr so they should be happy that they are playing in one of the best teams in Europe and they are earning huge, it will be better they stop the competition against each other and understand that the only competition is to beat their opponents and emerge victorious in matches then win trophies for the club.

You say there are no problems, then perhaps I've read some fake news, which, among other things, has always been around regarding relationships between teammates.
When there's harmony in the team, you play and win peacefully, like AC Milan many years ago.

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exactly, the most difficult job there is for the coach, and it is a very difficult job, due to the difficulties he finds himself in due to the fact that the players are young and talented, and can create problems, I understand the difficulty but he must move forward and try to unite these players and make them become a strong team like it was before
The job is really difficult for Xabi Alonso because he is managing players that are rich and influential on one part and a remarkable team that is accustomed to winning on the other part. Xabi will have a hard time being fulling in charge of the team due to the rivalry and ego in the players especially Vinicius Jr and Kylan Mbappe.  If I were the coach, I will bench them a couple of times so they can come down to earth and give their best. No matter what, I still believe that Real Madrid will make a great rival to Barcelona this season.

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exactly, the most difficult job there is for the coach, and it is a very difficult job, due to the difficulties he finds himself in due to the fact that the players are young and talented, and can create problems, I understand the difficulty but he must move forward and try to unite these players and make them become a strong team like it was before
The job is really difficult for Xabi Alonso because he is managing players that are rich and influential on one part and a remarkable team that is accustomed to winning on the other part. Xabi will have a hard time being fulling in charge of the team due to the rivalry and ego in the players especially Vinicius Jr and Kylan Mbappe.  If I were the coach, I will bench them a couple of times so they can come down to earth and give their best. No matter what, I still believe that Real Madrid will make a great rival to Barcelona this season.
I did not think that the narrative that the players are bigger than the coach can manage is a real one. Also remember that Ancelloti played with this set of players and could not win anything for the season. It is a team chemistry problem and not an individual problem. The day Real Madrid got it wrong was the day they signed mbappé who plays the same wing with vinícius while Vinicius was at his prime.
Keep only Vini Junior and see Real Madrid return to their glory days;
Keep only Mbappe and see Real Madrid return to their glory days;
The unsaid competition among the players is alarming and no coach, apart from Mourinho will benefit from this situation.

I feel for Xavi for leaving his well build team to inherit this disaster from Ancelloti. Let's believe he will fix it gradually, but don't expect an overnight wonders. Barcelona will still be better than them, atleast for this season.

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The job is really difficult for Xabi Alonso because he is managing players that are rich and influential on one part and a remarkable team that is accustomed to winning on the other part. Xabi will have a hard time being fulling in charge of the team due to the rivalry and ego in the players especially Vinicius Jr and Kylan Mbappe.  If I were the coach, I will bench them a couple of times so they can come down to earth and give their best. No matter what, I still believe that Real Madrid will make a great rival to Barcelona this season.
I did not think that the narrative that the players are bigger than the coach can manage is a real one. Also remember that Ancelloti played with this set of players and could not win anything for the season. It is a team chemistry problem and not an individual problem. The day Real Madrid got it wrong was the day they signed mbappé who plays the same wing with vinícius while Vinicius was at his prime.
Even when you write off any issues with the team as it is presently constituted, I'm glad you finally came to agreement that Mbappe signing brought some issues in the club because there is an unhealthy rivalry between him and Vinicius Jr. Ancelotti started making progress in Real Madrid when he was able to tame the players and mould them into what he wants. That is exactly the same problem Xabi Alonso will be having, he has to be in charge by exerting his powers on the players and make them understanding that their prospect depend on him.

Keep only Vini Junior and see Real Madrid return to their glory days;
Keep only Mbappe and see Real Madrid return to their glory days;
The unsaid competition among the players is alarming and no coach, apart from Mourinho will benefit from this situation.
You have a point but always remember that no team biult around one player can survive. There must be synergy in the team to achieve anything serious.

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July 22, 2025, 01:45:03 PM
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Selling Vinicius Jr. wouldn't solve the problems, because he's a top-quality player, and Real Madrid would be unlikely to find another player of his caliber. If they wanted to sign him, they'd have to pay a very high transfer fee. Therefore, Xabi Alonso must do his part to the best of his ability and maintain a balance between the players. In this case, the team wins.
Are you always willing to seeing Madrid to always rely upon him and his skill? If he performs well, that's acceptable what if he performs badly like the previous games? Come on man! Madrid needs more than one player to shine again. They're a club, and must be working as a team, not rely upon individual.
They can't have two suns in the same club . That's it.

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July 22, 2025, 02:02:13 PM
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There's no problem between Vinicius and Mbappé. This is just news that's been constantly pushed by the media without any clear explanation or evidence. It's simply because Real Madrid's attack played poorly last season, leading many to speculate that Vinicius and Mbappé don't have a good relationship. But I don't think so.
I'm also confident that Vinicius and Mbappé won't be sold; this is Real Madrid's long-term plan for their attack.

Under Xabi Alonso, we don't know what strategy he'll employ, but what's certain is that Vinicius and Mbappé will remain in their positions and both will continue to play in Real Madrid's starting lineup.

This is not about media pushing anything about the two players, it's about what we saw during their play together in almost every game. I'm not saying there's problem between Vini and Mbappe but judging from what we normally watch, something is not actually right between the two of them because you could clearly see the passion to dominate and the exhibition of selfishness which immensely contributed to the attack failure last season. Both Vini and Mbappe are good assets for any team but they can only achieve success together only if they unite themselves and do away with their personal ego.
They are two characters who like to stay at the centre of attention and Mbappe is living proof, he is strong for goodness sake, but he is doing everything he can to always be at the centre of attention and then he creates disagreements with the other players and makes the team play badly.

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July 22, 2025, 02:05:21 PM
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Selling Vinicius Jr. wouldn't solve the problems, because he's a top-quality player, and Real Madrid would be unlikely to find another player of his caliber. If they wanted to sign him, they'd have to pay a very high transfer fee. Therefore, Xabi Alonso must do his part to the best of his ability and maintain a balance between the players. In this case, the team wins.
Are you always willing to seeing Madrid to always rely upon him and his skill? If he performs well, that's acceptable what if he performs badly like the previous games? Come on man! Madrid needs more than one player to shine again. They're a club, and must be working as a team, not rely upon individual.
They can't have two suns in the same club . That's it.
It worked before, so why not now?

Vinicius doesn't have to be sold to improve the team. In fact, I think having him on the team would make Real Madrid much stronger. I think player egos are perfectly normal, and it's the coach's job to eliminate egos and build chemistry between players.
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July 22, 2025, 02:59:55 PM
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Yeah sure, players that plays his role is very scarce aside being scared even though they are been signed most of them may not fit in immediately so it is  not that easy, kroos R2 is unimaginable, this is a player Realmadrid can't not joke with if am say, why would they even want to think that lane of trying to lay him off, at the present Realmdrid is messing around so why would they even think of such option as the best, at least we were able to watch their match against PSG, what happened, the entire midfield was taken over by PSG, at this juncture I think the best option for them is bring in more helpers for they guys instead of thinking otherwise, am even unhappy discussing the underperformance of this team.

I honestly think, in my total ignorance, that at the level at which Real Madrid plays, they are all extremely strong players.
The teams are also strong teams otherwise they wouldn't be in the Champions League, this guarantees a very high standard of quality

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July 22, 2025, 03:15:03 PM
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Selling Vinicius Jr. wouldn't solve the problems, because he's a top-quality player, and Real Madrid would be unlikely to find another player of his caliber. If they wanted to sign him, they'd have to pay a very high transfer fee. Therefore, Xabi Alonso must do his part to the best of his ability and maintain a balance between the players. In this case, the team wins.
Are you always willing to seeing Madrid to always rely upon him and his skill? If he performs well, that's acceptable what if he performs badly like the previous games? Come on man! Madrid needs more than one player to shine again. They're a club, and must be working as a team, not rely upon individual.
They can't have two suns in the same club . That's it.

Things don't go well when there are several players playing the same position on the same team. Competition should increase quality, but it negatively impacts player motivation, so I don't like star players playing together.
Any player who doesn't contribute to the team can leave; at least they'll contribute financially. With this budget, the team could acquire several more valuable players Smiley

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The job is really difficult for Xabi Alonso because he is managing players that are rich and influential on one part and a remarkable team that is accustomed to winning on the other part. Xabi will have a hard time being fulling in charge of the team due to the rivalry and ego in the players especially Vinicius Jr and Kylan Mbappe.  If I were the coach, I will bench them a couple of times so they can come down to earth and give their best. No matter what, I still believe that Real Madrid will make a great rival to Barcelona this season.
By the way, Vinícius is not such a simple player, and you definitely need to find the right approach to him. Especially now, with Mbappé's arrival, problems have started regarding Vinícius's salary. He wants to earn the same as Mbappé because he now considers himself an equally valuable player. But Mbappé’s salary is significantly higher than Vinícius’s, and that alone can already create some internal conflicts. I think Alonso doesn't yet have the experience to resolve such internal issues, but he needs to learn how to deal with them. And he needs to learn quickly, because if misunderstandings start within the team, it will definitely affect the results.

 
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Yes there is no problem between Kylian Mbappe and Vinicius Jr but mentally i will say that Vinicius Jr felt intimidated when Kylian Mbappe stepped into the squad because initially Vinicius Jr was always the player to look out for but when Mbappe came in, the attention shifted from Vinicius Jr to Kylian Mbappe. However, Real Madrid is very much interested in both players, i don't think they have any plan of selling either of them in the short run so what Xabi Alonso need to do is to see how he can be able to convince both players on the need for them to work together towards the growth of the team and disregard their individual sentiments against each other. Kylian Mbappe is good, same as Vinicius Jr so they should be happy that they are playing in one of the best teams in Europe and they are earning huge, it will be better they stop the competition against each other and understand that the only competition is to beat their opponents and emerge victorious in matches then win trophies for the club.

You say there are no problems, then perhaps I've read some fake news, which, among other things, has always been around regarding relationships between teammates.
When there's harmony in the team, you play and win peacefully, like AC Milan many years ago.
A rumor will remain a rumor with no atom of truth in it. Until both teams comes out to admit they have problems between themselves, everything found on the internet remains mere content creators chasing clouts. I just wonder how people will just sit and imagine teammates will start having issues maybe because the internet feels one is intimidated by the other. Vini is good same is Mbappe. It was this same internet who made PSG with less achievement while Mbappe was in PSG making teammates compete within themselves instead of playing as a team.

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I have been criticizing Bayern Munich since they changed their coach. Kompany may be talented. I will not get into this argument. But does Kompany have enough experience? Kompany has been in charge of any big club like Munich in the past. An experienced coach is needed to do well on the Champions League platform. Although they can perform well in the Bundesliga, we have seen Munich completely fail in the Champions League. Munich is not able to play well especially against big teams. So how will the team dominate the Champions League?
I understand what you are saying and I see your point which has a lot of relevance, but if we look at his merits Kompany has managed to go out and Reborn Bayern back to win the Bundesliga , he was very successful against Xabi's team, so now the Experience he took in the club world cup is another thing , he played against teams with a very different style, they won money , they know that nowadays things in football have expanded, I think Kompany took a unique Experience , he still has the way to do things better.


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