Your preference between the stock & bitcoin market.

[EL MOHA]

Not sure what you are trying to say but I'd agree with Pooyaa's statement to some extent. It may sound communist but almost all of the early and large investors of bitcoin comes from the privileged group of people. When bitcoin was introduced in 2009, 75% of people didn't had access to internet. i.e. they would not have heard about bitcoin, even if they did, they could not have bought bitcoin let alone mine it.
As of stocks and bitcoin, they are two different economic tools everyone should have in their portfolio. There are risks associated with both and both should be invested and traded with caution.

I wouldn’t say pooya87 is right to an extent but rather he is perfectly right in his opinion. Bitcoin is the best thing to have happen to this financial market and there is no two ways about it but let’s be realistic is it a solution for all the monetary problems the financial world is facing? Definitely not that’s why Satoshi puts it out as an alternative. Bitcoin is capped 21 million units in as much it is its best attribute it flaw is simply it can go round for the 7 billion plus people on earth most especially with institutions holding some large sum already.

So praying for the system to print more money is asking the system to collapse and bitcoin cannot solve all the problems. Satoshi already has given the clue of how the system flaw can be fixed and it is left for it to be fixed. As for looking for alternatives now before the flaw gets corrected I think it is best to diversify into assets like gold too and not rely on bitcoin alone

[AVE5]

Not sure what you are trying to say but I'd agree with Pooyaa's statement to some extent. It may sound communist but almost all of the early and large investors of bitcoin comes from the privileged group of people. When bitcoin was introduced in 2009, 75% of people didn't had access to internet. i.e. they would not have heard about bitcoin, even if they did, they could not have bought bitcoin let alone mine it.
As of stocks and bitcoin, they are two different economic tools everyone should have in their portfolio. There are risks associated with both and both should be invested and traded with caution.

When you talk about how people haven't been able to invest on bitcoin at the earlier age when it was invented, I think I can identify that optimisms that the universe has been surviving on the economy and stocks without invested on bitcoin.
And while we've come far to advance with the digital era, it's also optimizing that people can as well invest on the digital market as alternative of spreading their assets if at all we want to expand our portfolios since they've both proven sustainable and reliable.

[Mrbluntzy]

Your opinion will be appreciated if you can contribute based on the thread title because it begin to feel like the speculation is forcing everyone to hold bitcoin while it's an alternative and besides life has been fair before bitcoin and still fair for lot of people not holding it.

You meant to say that Bitcoin is supposed to be an alternative of what? Bitcoin is a digital currency and its a store of value just like Fiat, investors can decide to hold with what ever reason they have. You said it's because of speculation, how about in the 1990 when some people just save their money in bank and the annual returns was still enriching them. Some rich men kept millions and billions in the bank and make good returns but now you can see the hike in devaluation of Fiat, so you know what alternative Bitcoin is solving. Holding is goal to sell when the value increase. I like to diversify my investment, which many people do too, most people prefer Bitcoin and stock. If you have the capital you can go for both, perhaps many Bitcoin investors are also investors in other company shares.

[slapper]

Preference between stocks and bitcoin is almost irrelevant once you realize both are just mirrors reflecting the anxieties and ambitions of the age. Stocks are institutional nostalgia: stability, dividends, slow progress. Bitcoin? That’s the anxiety hedge, the freedom lottery, the protest vote against systems people barely trust anymore. Your point about “self-enrichment not contributing” exposes a massive truth: most people invest to survive, not to save the world

But imagine the so-called “flippening”: Bitcoin as the main currency. Supply chains collapse, most people can’t transact, new elite forms overnight. Suddenly, “freedom” is just another club you can’t join unless you guessed right. The most honest take: speculation is exhausting, holding is an identity, and most are just trying not to get left behind. No asset class is fair, just differently unfair. It was never about utopia

[Unknown Op]

I always prefer Bitcoin investment as comparison to stock investment because I am associated with the Bitcoin and cryptocurrency for the years and I made Money from that and I got respect in the family by investment in Bitcoin and It changed my life and I always try to learn about Market situation because that is giving me latest information and I take interest to get knowledge about that. Stock market is not bad but it is not made for me because I started my career as BTC trader and cryptocurrency trader and I am happy with that and I will not switch to other investment when I am enough successful in that . But stock market is looking very dangerous as comparison to BTC .

[BenCodie]

I’ve come to believe the entire system is controlled and manipulated by the wealthy.

When/in what year did you come to accept/realize this?

I am surprised that the world still denies it. After everything the globe has been through and with all of the information available on the internet, in some communities you would still be looked at sideways if you spoke with skepticism about the true nature of the system.

So if you ask me whether to choose Bitcoin or stocks, I’d definitely pick Bitcoin for its transparency. Sure, the market might appear manipulated at times, but at least everything is out in the open.

Its fundamentals are simple: when demand rises, the price goes up, and the supply is fixed. You can’t say the same for the fiat system or even stocks, for that matter. Stocks are backed by companies, but if those companies can be manipulated within an oligarch-controlled system, then we’re still at the mercy of those in power. Bitcoin, in my view, is the only asset that offers true transparency in a way that’s easy to understand.

Very well written, I'd hope reasons like this are why we're all here to start with though

[Swordsoffreedom]

But stock market is looking very dangerous as comparison to BTC .

Stocks are more dangerous than bitcoin, which aspect are you referring to? In terms of legality, popularity, liquidity, development history...stocks are completely superior to bitcoin. Especially on the legal side, Bitcoin is not even legalized globally yet, many countries still do not have clear regulations on it or those regulations can be reversed at any time. The crowd still believes in stocks more than bitcoin, that's why many institutions and large investors only dare to invest in bitcoin when ETF is approved and they only invest through ETF.

The most obvious advantage of Bitcoin over stocks is in terms of returns and that's why we choose Bitcoin over stocks, or maybe privacy but I don't think many people care about that anymore.

[AVE5]

But stock market is looking very dangerous as comparison to BTC .

The most obvious advantage of Bitcoin over stocks is in terms of returns and that's why we choose Bitcoin over stocks, or maybe privacy but I don't think many people care about that anymore.

Many has really lost concerns of Privacies and focuses more on the profitability that gives Investors returns that's why we're more engaged on the bitcoin price than the privacy. Other criteria that's like to be advantageous of bitcoin over the stock is it self custodial.
I also don't think we care about the Privacies anymore since crypto currencies has begin to be regulated and the process of buying the digital assets is mostly on the trends of centralized networks which even, the governments can get us tracked.  Sometimes I just wonder what the need of trying to hide behind the government anymore. We can think about Elon Musk, Michael Sailor, Donald Trumps and the rest of them who had been publicly known as enthusiasts and pronto bitcoin with their large holdings.

[btc78]

Not sure what you are trying to say but I'd agree with Pooyaa's statement to some extent. It may sound communist but almost all of the early and large investors of bitcoin comes from the privileged group of people. When bitcoin was introduced in 2009, 75% of people didn't had access to internet. i.e. they would not have heard about bitcoin, even if they did, they could not have bought bitcoin let alone mine it.
As of stocks and bitcoin, they are two different economic tools everyone should have in their portfolio. There are risks associated with both and both should be invested and traded with caution.

there was internet and computers already when stocks were being bought but unlike bitcoin it is a lot accessible

back then you can just call up a broker and have him do all you want buy stocks, sell stocks there are people that are ready to serve you but in bitcoin it was niche and you had to do everything yourself and without proper tools there was no way you could have bought bitcoin as easily as you could have invested in stocks but this was a long time ago and now things are different

[Obulis]

 preference between stock and great Bitcoin?
This can't be without the level of knowledge, history and peoples experience, personal and immediate interests and trends.

People's orientation to life can affect their preferences. Looking at stock and thinking of how long it has been some will without any look on Bitcoin always invest on stocks and this most have been the case for many people.

Looking at trends which is still a result of orientation to life, Bitcoin is top preference.

Immediate interest could be how quickly returns you need which likewise influences certain response

The people around someone can be a great influence too. E.g being around someone from this forum could likely make Bitcoin the most preferred.

For me, venturing into both is the case so that the preference wouldn't be permanent but based on concept at one point or another.

[takuma sato]

It depends on how the market interprets Bitcoin during the next 2001-2008 type crash, assuming there's one. A lot of people have been sidelined for years waiting for this predicted deleveraging event, specially so called experts, along with the doom and gloom predictions for Bitcoin. These know it all idiots have made a lot of people miss on buying BTC when it was really, really cheap, and so here we are in 2025. If we don't crash and we get a soft landing, or even if we get a 2022 type bear market of 1 year but it quickly recovers and never goes as low as some of the doom and gloom predictions im seeing, they are going to continue to sidelined people. So im not expecting such multi decade bear market. In any case, it depends if people see BTC as a safe haven like gold, or if it's still considering a risk asset like NASDAQ100 on steroids. Either way the markets will recover and those that buy BTC cheap will make tons of money, and this may get frontrunned so we may never hit these low targets some are predicting on a bear market and they will continue to hold cash waiting for BTC to get under 20k or whatever. The most reasonable play is to DCA into the asset and stop listening to gurus that think they can predict the future.

[Frankolala]

One good nature of bitcoin is that it gives you the rights to be in custody of your funds and beyond institutional control which has led to the high rate of adoption. Stock is a fiat investment and due to the inflation every business in fiat will definitely be affected directly or indirectly. This is where bitcoin comes in play because of its limited in supply and the halving makes the price to increase overtime due to increase in adoption rate.

[AmoreJaz]

One good nature of bitcoin is that it gives you the rights to be in custody of your funds and beyond institutional control which has led to the high rate of adoption. Stock is a fiat investment and due to the inflation every business in fiat will definitely be affected directly or indirectly. This is where bitcoin comes in play because of its limited in supply and the halving makes the price to increase overtime due to increase in adoption rate.

That's the advantage of btc. With the fixed supply in the market, it can further increase its price if the sentiments in the market is positive. However, it will only go to the positive direction if there will be good developments surrounding this market. That is why, you still need to monitor and keep up with the current happenings in the market.

And also, between stock and btc market, it all depends on the person who are considering such options. Some people are more comfortable doing stocks, whereas, some are still hesitant with btc. But if you are familiar to both, why not explore your opportunities in both markets and take advantage of the positive side of it. You can surely see how you can gain profit from both if you have good grasp of these markets.

[uneng]

My personal experience with Bitcoin has been so good that I have no way to prefer any other category of asset than Bitcoin. I was checking assets' prices and their potential rewards these days, and felt how tiny they are compared to Bitcoin's potential and to another concepts of practical businesses. I'm not saying stocks market should be discouraged by investors. I just think it's interesting for those who already have a large source of monthly income, so it can be profitable to invest in stocks in a feasible period of time.

However, for the average investor, it's going to take an eternity until he builds a decent income by investing in stocks. In order to reach wealth, he has to adopt another categories of investments, including Bitcoin and semi-afk business concepts.

[Odohu]

I don't think it is subject to argument that Bitcoin stand out when compared to any investment instrument at the moment. The advantages of Bitcoin are just too numerous and the one that standard out include but not limited to decentralisation, privacy, accessibility and high liquidity. There are many other advantages that Bitcoin have over the traditional assets including other forms of instruments but those mentioned are convincing enough to make any smart person chose Bitcoin over stocks or anything.

[Sticky Bomb]

On the go, all we strives for while invested on bitcoin is to provide or secure funds that we could use to solve our daily life needs. Right?

Wrong, we invest into Bitcoin to have a chance to secure our financial future and that's why it's encouraged to go for a long-term holding plan.

Let's discuss; Of course bitcoin investors has always wished for the stock market to be inflated or get hit by recession and cause it investment decline so that bitcoin market could catch the attention of investors.

Bitcoin market has been catching attention of investors right from time, same reason it's being adopted. I don't believe it's because of any stock market crash that's making Bitcoin adaptation grow, but I can agree with you that some investors are pulling out funds from the stocks and investing into Bitcoin since they now view it as a superior investment compared to stocks

[AYOBA]

Investing in Bitcoin cannot solve our daily needs. This asset is a long term invest approach geared towards securing a future and not meeting immediate needs. Bitcoin profits only makes sense when invested in regularly business that solves our daily needs. Bitcoin asset will always remain volatile and as such the fluctuation in price won't make it a daily income source.

We all know that investing in Bitcoin cannot solve our daily needs, but do you know that Bitcoin investment can make our lives much better in the future? Because it is a long-term investment, and that’s why those who are looking for daily gains cannot afford the investment in the long term; they should rather go for the trade instead since it is the daily needs some people want, and it is because they don’t know the amount of the profits they can get in the Bitcoin investment that’s why most of the people don’t have interest in Bitcoin investment based on saying they cannot earn from it quickly.

[WillyAp]

Your opinion will be appreciated if you can contribute based on the thread title because it begin to feel like the speculation is forcing everyone to hold bitcoin while it's an alternative and besides life has been fair before bitcoin and still fair for lot of people not holding it.

1st hurdle to holding stocks is the legal entrance.
For a non US citizen you need to open an LLC which costs you around US$ 500 a year. With that, some outfits let you buy stock, Robinhood does not accept LTDs as Traders. 
Bitcoin and the more conveniently priced crypto on the other hand is easy to buy and easy to trade. In the US, EU, Australia and a few other countries your trades are secure. Although mostly not regulated. 
Making stocks available to the entire world would make a fight among equals but as it is Stocks are at a disadvantage and still rise a higher volume overall.  

[Pablo-wood]

We all know that investing in Bitcoin cannot solve our daily needs, but do you know that Bitcoin investment can make our lives much better in the future? Because it is a long-term investment, and that’s why those who are looking for daily gains cannot afford the investment in the long term; they should rather go for the trade instead since it is the daily needs some people want, and it is because they don’t know the amount of the profits they can get in the Bitcoin investment that’s why most of the people don’t have interest in Bitcoin investment based on saying they cannot earn from it quickly.

Did you bother reading this line.

This asset is a long term invest approach geared towards securing a future and not meeting immediate needs.

Bitcoin is and has always been a long term investment approach. It's the profit made from your investment that you can channel to other businesses for daily income because no one will want to own bitcoin and start making daily survival on it.  The more bitcoin owned the more secure the future becomes. It is a game of quantity, like how many Bitcoin is held. A person with little quantity only managed to scratch the surface of the volatile world.

Trading is still not a guarantee. Some days end greenish and some days ends reddish. It only takes one who is extremely good at managing losses to make it big in the trading world

[shinratensei_]

You can be investing in stock or in bitcoin at the same time.
So far I've seen nobody wishing the stock market to get hit by recession, this statement is just so wrong. Stock and bitcoin both are risky asset to invest and can be really profitable.

Stock degen usually trade crypto as well, some exchange even going as far as integrating stock, etf, bonds and so on into their market although they are crypto exchange market because they know crypto trader usually trade stock as well.
in my opinion, speaking about prospect of investment, bitcoin is as good as those bluechip stocks if not even better.