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August 07, 2025, 12:38:01 AM
Last edit: August 08, 2025, 11:39:17 PM by HomoSapiensPrime
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I will try to be preciser as possible
I have a trading system on binary options that is around 90% precise.
Last week I went from $1k to $18k and lost all on a tilt state
This week I went from another $1k to $14k and I lost all on another tilt state.
what is a tilt state?
I operate 1 operation per day, from 9am to 2pm I wait for a perfect entry, when I follow this law my balance grows with the time, but if I lose an operation I entry on tilt state, I deposit all my money and I operate without analise, just in a furious instinct of tilt and that is the only thing breaking me, once this solved I will be a state of art trader.
I will sell my laptop to have funds to operate again, if I do not compute tilt I will raise my numbers to the multi digits.
I need a loan of $1k to start trading again and I pay back withing 5 days as I return 88% per operation.
I do not access this forum often thats why my account is new, I was here 2012 but I was poor broke and could not invest in BTC at its beggining.
So if you could borrow me $1k I return with agreed interest within 5 days, I will perform an $500 operation daily, $1k is 2 bullets and at the precision I operate is more than enough for me to grow again.
I do not trade BTC futures it is binary ex:EUR/USD I found a pattern in the 5s candles when price touchs support, extremelly precise, only tilt state destroying me.
I return +40% for the risk state.


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I operate without analise,

Maybe try anal ice, and cool your culo.

I return 88% per operation.

That's not how math works.  You started out with $2k and now you have $0, that's -100% return. 

Assuming any part of your story is true, why would any one lend you money when you've demonstrated how foolishly you've gambled away you own?  If you were so reckless and greedy with your own money, why should anyone trust you to be more careful with money that isn't yours?

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August 07, 2025, 02:22:13 AM
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I operate without analise,

Maybe try anal ice, and cool your culo.

I return 88% per operation.

That's not how math works.  You started out with $2k and now you have $0, that's -100% return.  

Assuming any part of your story is true, why would any one lend you money when you've demonstrated how foolishly you've gambled away you own?  If you were so reckless and greedy with your own money, why should anyone trust you to be more careful with money that isn't yours?

I computed the truth, and yes am extremally foolish, I could be over $10k today, few hours ago I was bankrupted, the value on me is the high precision operational system I compute and the stupidity in me is not control stop loss, stupidity being controlled money grows, you bet I will be capable to control tilt in the lines I will operate with lend money, of course risk computes
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August 07, 2025, 02:31:29 AM
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just follow a basic rule. No collateral No Money. Moreover your story doesn't seems good at all. You are just getting money lost!
What happens if you don't earn money? Anyway, how we can trust that you're really doing this?
It's a good move asking money to stranger and not risking yours? Sad

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August 07, 2025, 02:35:42 AM
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just follow a basic rule. No collateral No Money. Moreover your story doesn't seems good at all. You are just getting money lost!
What happens if you don't earn money? Anyway, how we can trust that you're really doing this?
It's a good move asking money to stranger and not risking yours? Sad

I will have 2x $500 bullets being computed at 90% precion entries.
If I miss the 2 bullets game is over and no loan will be paid
but the odds for me lose 2x is extremelly low as I compute a precise pattern that if computed at state of art precision almost always return as win
I already offered my laptop on market place for $1k soon or later I will be back in the game
Once I learn control tilt I will consider myself a state of art binary trader as my precion few in the world has.
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August 07, 2025, 02:49:42 AM
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Stop it please, be respectful. No collateral no loan. Otherwise you're like to trying to scam people here.
If it was something barely true, you were getting money even from a loan shark and not asking in a forum from strangers.
You have no reputation and your story makes no sense at all. Reading about "tilt" moment make me wondering how in a Hell you pretend some one could ever send a single satoshi ....

Ok sell your laptop... offer a VALID collateral (120% more of your loan). Otherwise it's enough... If you have a way for making money please do it by yourself but don't try to fool other people.

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August 07, 2025, 03:00:52 AM
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Stop it please, be respectful. No collateral no loan. Otherwise you're like to trying to scam people here.
If it was something barely true, you were getting money even from a loan shark and not asking in a forum from strangers.
You have no reputation and your story makes no sense at all. Reading about "tilt" moment make me wondering how in a Hell you pretend some one could ever send a single satoshi ....

Ok sell your laptop... offer a VALID collateral (120% more of your loan). Otherwise it's enough... If you have a way for making money please do it by yourself but don't try to fool other people.

What you mean by collateral is an old account? if so this lend topic is for few to play.
Am just a hominidie computing what is my current state on reality and computing here to large holders so their coins may leverage my computation in the $ lines.
Scamming is a strong structure on your synapses as you keep repeating it.
Am offering a gameplay, my lines will make the synaptical fluxonal interconnections compute at its limits trying to abstract the truth of my lines
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August 07, 2025, 10:39:37 AM
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I will sell my laptop to have funds to operate again
Taking loans and selling items to gamble sounds a lot like a gambling addiction.

That's not how math works.  You started out with $2k and now you have $0, that's -100% return.
Isn't it funny how anyone who has "a trading system" for unlimited money is always out of money? It's almost as if that system isn't working....

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August 07, 2025, 10:59:05 AM
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I will sell my laptop to have funds to operate again
Taking loans and selling items to gamble sounds a lot like a gambling addiction.
The usual gambling story. He had a huge win, but it wasn't a cashout, he wanted more. Of course, he lost everything. And twice.
Now he would like to continue with other people's money with the promise that this time he will resist and cash out on time, even though he cannot recognize such a moment.

 
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August 07, 2025, 02:26:39 PM
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I will sell my laptop to have funds to operate again
Taking loans and selling items to gamble sounds a lot like a gambling addiction.

That's not how math works.  You started out with $2k and now you have $0, that's -100% return.
Isn't it funny how anyone who has "a trading system" for unlimited money is always out of money? It's almost as if that system isn't working....

Your argument was refuted on my computation, my system works, what is not working is my stop loss control that I holpe had already fixed at this state

I will sell my laptop to have funds to operate again
Taking loans and selling items to gamble sounds a lot like a gambling addiction.
The usual gambling story. He had a huge win, but it wasn't a cashout, he wanted more. Of course, he lost everything. And twice.
Now he would like to continue with other people's money with the promise that this time he will resist and cash out on time, even though he cannot recognize such a moment.

Trading in high precision lines is not gambling
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August 07, 2025, 03:18:26 PM
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Its strange you havent used some other buzz Word like
Quantistic
Or
Artificial Intelligence
If you insist with your request its clear you want scam some one that Is just naive on this.
Trying to appear like a "missing prophet" doesn't work here ...

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August 07, 2025, 03:20:38 PM
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Trading in high precision lines in not gambling
That's what every addicted gambler says when he claims he can "win it all back". If that would be true, you wouldn't have lost it in the first place.

This is how your "not gambling" is going:
I went from $1k to $18k and lost all
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I went from another $1k to $14k and I lost all

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August 07, 2025, 03:50:40 PM
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Your argument was refuted on my computation, my system works, what is not working is my stop loss control that I holpe had already fixed at this state

And how do you fix your problematic "stop loss" control? With a doctor or by yourself?

Trading in high precision lines in not gambling

However, in 99.99% of the cases ends up very badly, and as you said, you know it already.

What you mean by collateral is an old account? if so this lend topic is for few to play.
Am just a hominidie computing what is my current state on reality and computing here to large holders so their coins may leverage my computation in the $ lines.
Scamming is a strong structure on your synapses as you keep repeating it.
Am offering a gameplay, my lines will make the synaptical fluxonal interconnections compute at its limits trying to abstract the truth of my lines

Since you ask for a loan, instead of saying all these intellectual *cough* my a** *cough* words, offer collateral. Like you are in a bank, simple as that. Wink
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August 07, 2025, 05:53:45 PM
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Its strange you havent used some other buzz Word like
Quantistic
Or
Artificial Intelligence
If you insist with your request its clear you want scam some one that Is just naive on this.
Trying to appear like a "missing prophet" doesn't work here ...

sophist computation, poor logic in ur lines
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Your argument was refuted on my computation, my system works, what is not working is my stop loss control that I holpe had already fixed at this state

And how do you fix your problematic "stop loss" control? With a doctor or by yourself?

Trading in high precision lines in not gambling

However, in 99.99% of the cases ends up very badly, and as you said, you know it already.

What you mean by collateral is an old account? if so this lend topic is for few to play.
Am just a hominidie computing what is my current state on reality and computing here to large holders so their coins may leverage my computation in the $ lines.
Scamming is a strong structure on your synapses as you keep repeating it.
Am offering a gameplay, my lines will make the synaptical fluxonal interconnections compute at its limits trying to abstract the truth of my lines

Since you ask for a loan, instead of saying all these intellectual *cough* my a** *cough* words, offer collateral. Like you are in a bank, simple as that. Wink

I just need to stop computing the tilt state , I manage a way for that, I will only compute the result of operation where am very far from my setup so I would not have ways to make another operation and it will give time for my computation calm than analise what I did wrong so no way to deposit like crazy on those lines
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August 25, 2025, 08:24:45 PM
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Try taking a loan from a bank. There you’ll have to give away a much smaller portion of your profits. I know the usual advice is not to gamble with borrowed money. But I always take such loans when banks offer them, and I always use them for crypto trading. Not once since 2016 have I regretted it. Besides, you’ve already decided to use borrowed money anyway. So why not borrow at a lower interest rate?

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Try taking a loan from a bank. There you’ll have to give away a much smaller portion of your profits. I know the usual advice is not to gamble with borrowed money. But I always take such loans when banks offer them, and I always use them for crypto trading. Not once since 2016 have I regretted it. Besides, you’ve already decided to use borrowed money anyway. So why not borrow at a lower interest rate?

Because he can't and that's why he asks here. Not to mention that banks need collateral, and not in crypto form. However, it's pretty obvious that Opie doesn't have anything to offer here or in any bank.
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August 26, 2025, 02:38:35 PM
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Wow! I never even thought about that!

You know, I regularly take out loans from Russian banks. And not once has anyone ever asked me for collateral. All the banks just give loans “on your word,” so to speak. I honestly thought it worked like that everywhere. After all, banks need to push their lending services somehow! If they demand collateral, nobody would bother taking loans.

When DeFi lending protocols in crypto appeared, people in Russian-speaking Telegram chats were genuinely puzzled:
"What’s the point of such a loan? Let’s say I want to buy a fur coat. If I have the money, I’ll just go and buy it. If I don’t, then I’d take a loan. But here they want me to put up collateral. If I had collateral, I wouldn’t even need a loan in the first place."

OP, how does it work in your country? Do banks give loans without collateral?

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August 26, 2025, 03:41:53 PM
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Wow! I never even thought about that!

You know, I regularly take out loans from Russian banks. And not once has anyone ever asked me for collateral. All the banks just give loans “on your word,” so to speak. I honestly thought it worked like that everywhere. After all, banks need to push their lending services somehow! If they demand collateral, nobody would bother taking loans.

When DeFi lending protocols in crypto appeared, people in Russian-speaking Telegram chats were genuinely puzzled:
"What’s the point of such a loan? Let’s say I want to buy a fur coat. If I have the money, I’ll just go and buy it. If I don’t, then I’d take a loan. But here they want me to put up collateral. If I had collateral, I wouldn’t even need a loan in the first place."

OP, how does it work in your country? Do banks give loans without collateral?

The first huge difference is that they know who you are. You give them all the doxxs that they want (if they don't know them already). Secondly, they have the power not only to demand their money back at any time (even if they sign whatever contract) but also to hunt you down and lock you up. And as far as I know, Russian prisons are not a nice place to be in. Also, if you want to buy a house, for sure they won't give it to you because your face looks nice. They mortgaged your house or your car, thus they take collateral, the thing that you want so badly. There is no puzzle at all; this is the "puzzle" that is put by people who are either naive/ foolish or scammers who want free money and think crypto is candy. So, no matter how those people want to present it, to get a loan in any part of the world, you will need collateral. Simple as that.
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