From Newbie To Legendary: The Case For Early Opportunities

[Bitcoin Smith]

Nobody told him why Jr. Member can't be any useful to a signature campaign is "They can't wear links", so there is no point in hiring them for a signature campaign and even back members were more common than Jr.Member.

What's changed because number of full members and above increased a lot compared to past so why spending money on plain links for member when they can get some color with full member ranks?

[EarnOnVictor]

Nobody told him why Jr. Member can't be any useful to a signature campaign is "They can't wear links", so there is no point in hiring them for a signature campaign and even back members were more common than Jr.Member.

I believe the OP wanted the post to capture all the low ranks, not specifically the Jr. Members only. And of course, I wonder why the forum should be bothering itself about the Jr. Member rank wearing the campaign signature, building your account to at least 10 merits and the needed activity to get to at least the Member rank shouldn't be difficult for any good posters. And like I said earlier, it's the choice of CMs to include lower ranks, even if it's possible to wear a campaign signature.

What's changed because number of full members and above increased a lot compared to past so why spending money on plain links for member when they can get some color with full member ranks?

I don't think this is the reason, link is link and it's always well-visible on the Member rank. What I suspect is that CMs need a more mature look and status for their campaigns.

[348Judah]

Nobody told him why Jr. Member can't be any useful to a signature campaign is "They can't wear links", so there is no point in hiring them for a signature campaign and even back members were more common than Jr.Member.

I believe the OP wanted the post to capture all the low ranks, not specifically the Jr. Members only. And of course, I wonder why the forum should be bothering itself about the Jr. Member rank wearing the campaign signature, building your account to at least 10 merits and the needed activity to get to at least the Member rank shouldn't be difficult for any good posters. And like I said earlier, it's the choice of CMs to include lower ranks, even if it's possible to wear a campaign signature.

If OP thinks maybe this is actually affecting him personally, then he needs to sit up and be able to deliver well to the forum, at least give something substantial before expecting something superb, after, everything is still subjected to the desiring quality of the campaign managers and their client preference.

If he thinks that newbies are finding it difficult to rank through the various stages due to merit, but at least we just had some additional merit sources, if an account is truly a quality poster, then the merit sources or even ordinary members can keep an eye on it in giving merits, you can see how members are ranking up from below.

The future of Bitcointalk: Low Ranking Top Merit earners in the past 30 days
Those close to their next rank (lacking Merits)

[Mpamaegbu]

One thing I discovered is that in the past, there used to be signature campaigns that at least Jr. Members could join. It wasn’t just about the earnings. I believe these campaigns encouraged newcomers to read more, research, write better posts, and participate in meaningful discussions. Many of the high-ranking members today probably had their spark from those early opportunities.

You didn't lie on that. It's very discouraging this day to see that low ranked members hardly get into campaigns anymore. It's rare to find campaigns that even accept Full Member rank now. I got my first campaign as a Member rank barely two months getting here. Then, ranking up was very easy without the merit thing. All that was needed was being active and make posts. Activities were the requirement for ranking up then. As a Member rank, pay rate was even higher than what Legendary members get paid now. Member rank got paid between 0.009 BTC to 0.01 BTC/week. It wasn't much then but it was still something that aided some of us to get actively involved investing into altcoins and all that. Looking back now, that pay rate is over $1k weekly in today's value 🙆

[Bitcoin Smith]

What's changed because number of full members and above increased a lot compared to past so why spending money on plain links for member when they can get some color with full member ranks?

I don't think this is the reason, link is link and it's always well-visible on the Member rank. What I suspect is that CMs need a more mature look and status for their campaigns.

Yes, link is link but when it comes to advertisement's perspective the attractive feature on the banner is more important than just a plain link so if you want to advertise something which one you prefer just a plain text or colorful texts and fonts with logo in it that is what I am trying to say, but also the services don't want just anyone but looking for someone established so they might have better trust and forum presence that is where campaign managers trying to balance the budget by hiring users from different ranks.
And I wonder why it's still on meta because it is related to service discussion.

[AYOBA]

From my research about this forum and its history, I’ve come to understand why it was created in the first place, and that is to spread Bitcoin knowledge across the world, create a place for discussions, and help people grow in their understanding of this technology. Over the years, this forum has produced incredible members who started as complete beginners and became valuable contributors.
One thing I discovered is that in the past, there used to be signature campaigns that at least Jr. Members could join. It wasn’t just about the earnings. I believe these campaigns encouraged newcomers to read more, research, write better posts, and participate in meaningful discussions. Many of the high-ranking members today probably had their spark from those early opportunities.

The fact about this forum is that the forum has been open for each and everyone to learn and gain bitcoin knowledge and understand the knowledge that other high members spread in the community, but the issue with some of the new members that have introduced themselves into this forum is that some new members don’t want to learn deeply. Because they think that they can quickly earn money once they introduce themselves into this forum, and in this life everything is a gradual process.

That’s why being patient is very important whenever we come to do anything in this life. I understand that in previous years back there there were a lot of Jr. member campaigns, which encouraged many of the new members to rank up their accounts quickly without taking much of the time, but since it has come to be that the signature campaign for the Jr. members is now more available again, I think they don’t have to be discouraged from participating in the meaningful discussion.

[Abdulzuruku01]

So, I think you should be thinking of increasing your knowledge and then you would have that chance of gaining merits rank up.

Honestly, this is the best advice you've given the OP, as focusing on learning will be more beneficial than this thinking. I believe the campaign managers who implement the criteria for joining signature campaigns, specifically for full members and above, know what they're doing. When I was still in junior member rank, if there was a campaign for that rank, I would have messed things up due to my limited knowledge of the forum and cryptocurrency at the time. But by the time you earn merits from newbie rank to full member, you'll have acquired enough knowledge. However, rushing to participate in campaigns won't help to focus on learning.

[MithiRM]

That’s a really thoughtful post. I agree with you signature campaigns back in the day were more than just a way to earn a bit of BTC. For many, they acted like training wheels, giving newcomers a reason to read more carefully, think critically, and improve the quality of their posts. You’re right that spam was a big problem, and that’s likely why campaigns were restricted to higher ranks, but it’s also true that not every Jr. Member was here to abuse the system. Some of today’s Legendary and Hero members probably stayed engaged because they had that early incentive.

Maybe the solution isn’t to bring them back exactly as they were, but to design campaigns with stricter quality checks, active moderation, or even trial periods. That way, genuine learners get the chance to grow while spammers are filtered out. At the end of the day, keeping newcomers motivated is key if we want this forum and Bitcoin knowledge to keep thriving.

[Solosanz]

That’s a really thoughtful post. I agree with you signature campaigns back in the day were more than just a way to earn a bit of BTC. For many, they acted like training wheels, giving newcomers a reason to read more carefully, think critically, and improve the quality of their posts.

I don't think so, newcomers are more concerned about getting merit instead of qualifying for a campaign, although there's a chance they want to earn merit with a purpose to participate in signature campaign.

If newcomers come to this forum and looking for signature campaign, there are only two possibilities, either they're alt accounts or introduced by other people if they earn from this forum.

[Satofan44]

You didn't lie on that. It's very discouraging this day to see that low ranked members hardly get into campaigns anymore. It's rare to find campaigns that even accept Full Member rank now. I got my first campaign as a Member rank barely two months getting here. Then, ranking up was very easy without the merit thing. All that was needed was being active and make posts. Activities were the requirement for ranking up then. As a Member rank, pay rate was even higher than what Legendary members get paid now. Member rank got paid between 0.009 BTC to 0.01 BTC/week. It wasn't much then but it was still something that aided some of us to get actively involved investing into altcoins and all that. Looking back now, that pay rate is over $1k weekly in today's value 🙆

The rank restrictions help, but they are not the solution. The current value of those payments are not relevant as most of the shitposters sold the coin when they received them.

That’s a really thoughtful post. I agree with you signature campaigns back in the day were more than just a way to earn a bit of BTC. For many, they acted like training wheels, giving newcomers a reason to read more carefully, think critically, and improve the quality of their posts.

I don't think so, newcomers are more concerned about getting merit instead of qualifying for a campaign, although there's a chance they want to earn merit with a purpose to participate in signature campaign.

If newcomers come to this forum and looking for signature campaign, there are only two possibilities, either they're alt accounts or introduced by other people if they earn from this forum.

Most people that are already participating in signature campaigns are terrible posters, most of their content is junk and a harm to a normal person's brain. It is already too easy to earn merit, and there are too many old accounts that are used to for spamming purposes.
Earning merit is easy if one tries to make substantial contributions. Whatever the reason that they want to earn merit is irrelevant to the earning part. Those that complain are just doing so because of nefarious reasons. Why would someone care if they didn't earn enough merit for months or years unless they are here to shitpost for money? Nobody is not entitled to receive money for posting, so where is the problem?

[SmartGold01]

Forum is an open place it all depends on what you want to do with yourself, or what you want to know from the forum. As I know, if you are here to gain knowledge then you should stick on reading things to expand your wisdom bank, but if you are here to earn then you must also get yourself upgraded mentally to enable you earn the required merits to join campaign as you may have said. What you should also know that, campaign are being hosted by Manager after haven contact on the duration to run the campaign, they decide when it should run, whom to participate and what ranks to be chosen, currently they placed more values from Senior members to Legendary members where you as a member wouldn't be prioritize except you are also ranked up to that level.

[Solosanz]

Most people that are already participating in signature campaigns are terrible posters, most of their content is junk and a harm to a normal person's brain. It is already too easy to earn merit, and there are too many old accounts that are used to for spamming purposes.

Earning merit is easy if one tries to make substantial contributions. Whatever the reason that they want to earn merit is irrelevant to the earning part.

I actually want to kick your ass when I read "too easy to earn merit", but I check your merit history, you proved your words. Many other users aren't concerned about merit because they work with each other in their local board. Since you're really earn merit in a fair way, I have to say many people aren't as smart as you, hence it's hard.

Those that complain are just doing so because of nefarious reasons. Why would someone care if they didn't earn enough merit for months or years unless they are here to shitpost for money? Nobody is not entitled to receive money for posting, so where is the problem?

It's true, there's always a reason why someone complain about something.

Usually I read a thread in Beginner & Help section where a newbie account asking how to be active or something like that, I mean there's not even any rule an user must active to make a post, it's completely fine if someone want to be a silent reader.

[programmer3666]

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Bringing back campaigns for at least J. Members, even in a limited or carefully monitored way, could motivate more newcomers to stay, learn, and improve. While they’re getting motivated, they’ll also be building the habits and skills that could make them Legendary one day.

If the goal is to keep growing the Bitcoin community, then we should also be thinking about how to nurture the next generation of members. Sometimes, a little opportunity is all it takes to create a great contributor..

OP sorry if i might sound a bit too direct!! but i knda get whre you  comin from but campaigns for Jr.Members or Newcommers as you are suggesting was never realy the point of this forum to my understanding! campaigns are more like a reward for overtime contributions in the forum nd not something to expect right from the start of your activities in the forum. from my personal xperience when i was a newbie here still takin the baby steps i also wished things could be easier for me... but instead of waiting for a campaign or some form of early rewards!! i just quietly spent some time observing how things worked in the forum by learning from others through their topic contributions and other activities and slowly i was able to find my own path of what will work well for me... So along the way i decided that it will be easier to share the little knowledge  of programming and developing tools... so i started creating some little tools tat can make activities in the forum easier and also bring a bit of fun for members.. I think those small steps that i took helped me grow gradually and eventually open some rewardin doors of opportunities for me and God willin i am now a bonfied member of a very good campaign signature..
My liitle advice is that!! rather than focusing on why there is no newcomers or Jr.Member campaigns I think it will be more valuable to focus on building knowledge,, reputationx and other good contributions that will in return put you on the map of recognition.. I beliv with patience & consistency the rewards will surely come..

[Satofan44]

Most people that are already participating in signature campaigns are terrible posters, most of their content is junk and a harm to a normal person's brain. It is already too easy to earn merit, and there are too many old accounts that are used to for spamming purposes.

Earning merit is easy if one tries to make substantial contributions. Whatever the reason that they want to earn merit is irrelevant to the earning part.

I actually want to kick your ass when I read "too easy to earn merit", but I check your merit history, you proved your words. Many other users aren't concerned about merit because they work with each other in their local board. Since you're really earn merit in a fair way, I have to say many people aren't as smart as you, hence it's hard.

See, that kind of honesty and genuineness deserves some merit. I have already noticed that many people farm up merits in local boards with very low quality contributions, and then they come to the main boards to spam generic posts. I am not one of those. My contributions are small compared to some outstanding members, but I try to watch out for interesting topics even though they are quite rare.

Those that complain are just doing so because of nefarious reasons. Why would someone care if they didn't earn enough merit for months or years unless they are here to shitpost for money? Nobody is not entitled to receive money for posting, so where is the problem?

It's true, there's always a reason why someone complain about something.

Usually I read a thread in Beginner & Help section where a newbie account asking how to be active or something like that, I mean there's not even any rule an user must active to make a post, it's completely fine if someone want to be a silent reader.

My observation led me to the belief that many farmers are making threads using new accounts to create a place where a lot of generic posts can be made by their alt accounts and spamming buddies.
If anything, there is too much merit going around and campaign managers are too lenient with who they let into their campaigns. You can look at one recent example of what kind of users are accepted. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad and obvious.

[I_Anime]

You said they have a genuine interest, then in your last words you said "reason to stay active", so which one? it's the genuine interest or signature campaign? don't mix it.

What I meant is that newcomers already have a genuine interest in Bitcoin. The signature campaigns were just a tool to give them extra motivation to stay active and contribute more, not to create interest from scratch.

To be honest I won’t say the merit system ain’t some how now . But still you can rank up without you be in any signature campaign to motivate you . You are here to learn something that’s going to change your live for the better in a long run compared to the campaign because the knowledge you have obtained so far will definitely stick with you and you are definitely going to need it if you want to make something good out of this space . Stay consistent, stay focus , and fixed your mind in what the forum can offers to you now which is the knowledge/information

[SuperBitMan]

The forum management has nothing to do with the rank
campaign managers choose in there campaign, some times the campaign managers don't even make choices on that the company it self makes choices on that, one of the reasons why they really don't like carrying Jr members or members in a signature campaign is that.
1. They can't wear Avatar: and avatar is one of the things that easy catch the interest of people before the signature OP if you where to have a company and you want to promote it on this forum will you accept members that can't wear your avatar.
2. The signature for a member or Jr member rank is usually not good as that of full member, Sr member etc, the signature for low rank member is usually very small and just full of write up, OP I ask again you where to be the owner of the company we you allow a low rank after knowing all this.
However one thing good about accepting low rank members is that they are always every where in the forum and being everywhere in the forum is a good way to promote a company in this forum, not all but majority especially those who are interested to grow there knowledge about cryptocurrency.

[Majestic-milf]

 Why is it only signature campaigns that isn't available to lower ranks that the op is bothered about? If he was that concerned, he would have asked why they can't be allowed to comment or contribute in Serious discussion , cause I think the same answer he'd get as to the reason why newbies and junior ranks can't participate there is almost similar to why these ranks often don't have available slots for them in campaigns.
 Every campaign manager has the requirements they seek in users that want to participate on their campaign and even though it looks like life is being unfair to those junior ranks, the question then would be, what was the purpose of joining the forum.
When as a junior member, even when you purchase copper membership, you can't wear the Avatar of the company you are marketing for, then what are you doing? That's just the main reason campaign managers don't select low ranks.

[m2017]

If the goal is to keep growing the Bitcoin community, then we should also be thinking about how to nurture the next generation of members. Sometimes, a little opportunity is all it takes to create a great contributor..

It's just that sometimes participants need to make an effort and try to do at least something, and not sit and wait for "progress" just because "to keep growing the Bitcoin community".

One thing I discovered is that in the past, there used to be signature campaigns that at least Jr. Members could join. It wasn’t just about the earnings. I believe these campaigns encouraged newcomers to read more, research, write better posts, and participate in meaningful discussions. Many of the high-ranking members today probably had their spark from those early opportunities.

Do you need motivation? You already have it (if you have it) - it is the desire to become a higher rank. And the fact that you are asking for the campaigns for low level ranks to be resumed is already an incentive, that is, an external motivator to act (most often it is money). Many people here on the forum raised their ranks (to a certain level, most often senior member) from the lowest without any material incentive in the form of a reward for participating in signature campaigns. If they could, then why can't you?

[CryptoHeadlineNews]

If the goal is to keep growing the Bitcoin community, then we should also be thinking about how to nurture the next generation of members. Sometimes, a little opportunity is all it takes to create a great contributor..

If I may asked, did anybody restrict you from joining the forum discussion because you are a newbie? Because the last time I checked, I noticed that both Newbie and all other forum rank members are free to engage in discussion on all boards without any restriction. Because despite how you claim not to be interested in a few fraction of Bitcoin been earned from qualified ranks through signature campaigns. I'm 100% sure this thread was created because the Bitcoin people earn on this forum, and instead of working hard to be qualified to also earn, you are jealous and wants it the easy way, of which I will be sorry to disappoint you that Newbies can never be given the same privilege as Full, Senior and Hero ranks on this forum.

[lovesmayfamilis]

If the goal is to keep growing the Bitcoin community, then we should also be thinking about how to nurture the next generation of members. Sometimes, a little opportunity is all it takes to create a great contributor..

If I may asked, did anybody restrict you from joining the forum discussion because you are a newbie? Because the last time I checked, I noticed that both Newbie and all other forum rank members are free to engage in discussion on all boards without any restriction. Because despite how you claim not to be interested in a few fraction of Bitcoin been earned from qualified ranks through signature campaigns. I'm 100% sure this thread was created because the Bitcoin people earn on this forum, and instead of working hard to be qualified to also earn, you are jealous and wants it the easy way, of which I will be sorry to disappoint you that Newbies can never be given the same privilege as Full, Senior and Hero ranks on this forum.

The OP's problem is greed. After the moderators deleted several of his posts AI, and he received a tag, he stopped writing from this account, but we see his presence daily. Usually, this happens when the user has other accounts, but he did not delete cookies from another account, so it seems from his presence that he is just reading the forum.

In fact, the problem of newbies is that they cannot create even one normal account to participate worthily in signature companies, but they create dozens of new accounts from which, after, we see such indignation about the imperfection of the forum. Some have an erroneous opinion about education, and it is funny to read that to learn something, the forum must pay for it. All newbies need to understand a simple rule: it is not the forum that is interested in them, but they, the newbies, need to value the forum.


OP, close the topic and move according to the advice received.