Can egalitarian society ever be achieved?

[Pauldesaints]

An egalitarian society is a situation in which everyone is considered equal in both economic, financial and social status.its a concept that emphasizes the importance of social equality, aiming at removing economic inequalities.its indeed a classless society where there is no rich,semi-rich or poor.
If I have $1,000 for instance every other persons will have same.everbody is equal financial stable.nobody is richer to another.
Do you think such society is attainable before the end of the current generations as proposed by great economist.

[WillyAp]

Why should it?
Humans compare it is a native reflex, in order to look up to someone you need inequality.
Do you wish for progress?
Or do you wish for stagnation?   

[Donk1]

Nah that not possible Everyone can't be equal because all of us has different goals in our  life our mind t hink differently  we have different characters ,and different lifestyle In fact everything about we humans is different The possibility of that happening is down to zero  but it is easy to say that Instead of building a society of equality in wealth why not just buid one  of opportunity to help people fulfill their financial goals and also reduce poverty.  Because the ideal of financial equality in wealth is not possible. As you said There are all theories made by some well known reputable economists Though most of their theories has come to pass for this one it is not possible Anyways I would like to know which of the economists said it so I can read more on him.

[Pauldesaints]

No single economist propounded the theory,but John Locke was said to have laid it's foundation while other economist such as John Rawls and Karl Marx contributed there quotas.

[Free Market Capitalist]

Egalitarianism must consist of equal rights and opportunities, not equal money. Anyone who tries to sell you the idea that a political system will achieve economic equality is either a genocidal maniac or an admirer of genocidal maniacs. Like Stalin, Pol Pot, Maduro, and many others. And from the way you express yourself, I would say you are one of them:

nobody is richer to another.

Why don't you put it the other way around? You could have talked about an ideal society where everyone is equally rich, very rich.

But that communist-like trash that wants to equalize always does so downwards. It stems from envy, from not being able to stand that there are people richer than you. And to achieve this, it prefers everyone to be poor (except the politicians in charge).

[Despairo]

I see it's worst than communism.

In communism, people get paid accordingly based on their job and position, it's make sense because different job/position has different workload and pressure.

If a president and a janitor receive the same salary, people won't just lost motivation to work, they also lost motivation to life. What's the point to try something when in the end they all are same.

[Pablo-wood]

An egalitarian society is a situation in which everyone is considered equal in both economic, financial and social status.its a concept that emphasizes the importance of social equality, aiming at removing economic inequalities.its indeed a classless society where there is no rich,semi-rich or poor.
If I have $1,000 for instance every other persons will have same.everbody is equal financial stable.nobody is richer to another.

Let's assume your proposed society becomes a reality what measure will be used to recognise talents, exceptional societal contributions and innovative ideas. Classes is what makes us want to sit up to responsibilities, thus equality will never exist even in the future.

Do you think such society is attainable before the end of the current generations as proposed by great economist.

I don't see this happening anytime as far has human existence continues. Even amongst lower animals there are ranks, class and differences how much more humans with higher level of intelligence.

[Fiatless]

An egalitarian society is a situation in which everyone is considered equal in both economic, financial and social status.its a concept that emphasizes the importance of social equality, aiming at removing economic inequalities.its indeed a classless society where there is no rich,semi-rich or poor.
If I have $1,000 for instance every other persons will have same.everbody is equal financial stable.nobody is richer to another.
Do you think such society is attainable before the end of the current generations as proposed by great economist.

I might be wrong, but Socialism and its radical form, communism, that supports an egalitarian society, are gone forever. It was easier for such an economic and political system to succeed because nations were ruled by monarchs who were authoritarians and despots. It was easy for a man who has all the power to control the economic system to claim that he is equitably sharing resources while he, his family, and cronies live in affluence.

Capitalism has also proven to be a better economic system than these two. It has created more prosperous societies than Communism. The new form of egalitarian society is ensuring that all the people in the lower societal cadre have access to basic amenities.

[el kaka22]

The trick OP pulled is to limit what this is, the reality is that egalitarianism doesn't limit it to "no rich or poor" type of thing, it just says in the eyes of the law everyone should be equal, and that is exactly what we should have of course.

Just because some super wealthy man vs some incredibly poor man face in a court, doesn't mean wealthy man should hire bunch of Harvard graduate top of the class a billion dollar law firm type of thing and win it outright while the poor loses the case, that should not be the reason. We should all be equal under the law, and that is what egalitarianism should be. Whatever one can do, all can do, whatever one can't do, no one can do. That is the law and how it should be uphold. Money unrelated.

[Churchillvv]

You should be realistic enough to know that such society does not exist and will never exist anywhere, every from the biblical story of man, hierarchy was a thing, nothing has ever been equal man was superior to animals and in same quote is some personalities higher than others in society hence that is never going to be an equal society or country existing anywhere. If you ever think such society would exist, then you are probably going to be misled since Man and his original state cannot govern himself hence there must be some level of inequality.

[Fortify]

An egalitarian society is a situation in which everyone is considered equal in both economic, financial and social status.its a concept that emphasizes the importance of social equality, aiming at removing economic inequalities.its indeed a classless society where there is no rich,semi-rich or poor.
If I have $1,000 for instance every other persons will have same.everbody is equal financial stable.nobody is richer to another.
Do you think such society is attainable before the end of the current generations as proposed by great economist.

This sounds exactly like communism and there have been many attempts at that system which ended up failing miserably. The worst outcomes were places like China, which actually ended up in the deaths of millions of people because of misguided policies. Capitalism has been proven as the best system that aligns with human needs and desires, anything else is trying to fight against human nature which is never going to work. We are a competitive species and harder/more creative work deserves to be rewarded. We should live in a society where you have the opportunity to better yourself but it needs to be regulated so corporations don't have ultimate power.

[Josefjix]

No single economist propounded the theory,but John Locke was said to have laid it's foundation while other economist such as John Rawls and Karl Marx contributed there quotas.

These names you mentioned are no longer alive, if you asked when this quote or statement was passed, it should be long time ago when the standard of living, the societal coordination, the inflow and outflow of income by the government was transparent with no stain, and many more less corruptible engagement was available, this should be the time when egalitarianism were going to be perfect.

With the current state of humankind, and the latest system of survival this system cannot work, can never work because everyone is surviving using the advantage of another person weakness, survival of the fittest is the system now.

[r_victory]

I find it difficult. I once heard that due to a lack of financial education and skills in managing money/finances, even if all the money in the world were distributed equally, it would end up returning to the hands of most of the people who currently hold it. Even if opportunities are equal for everyone, not everyone will know how to take advantage of them. It's not about how much or what you have, but about what you do with what you have.

[Coyster]

If I have $1,000 for instance every other persons will have same.everbody is equal financial stable.nobody is richer to another.

This is not what an egalitarian society is about, it does not propose equal financial level for all citizens. What you are talking about is closer to communism, and there are very few countries that still function with this political system, though none of them is actually communist based on its true definition.

Do you think such society is attainable before the end of the current generations as proposed by great economist.

No. There is a reason why capitalism is widely adopted. Competition leads to economic growth and innovation, if earnings are linear, it encourages laziness. Superlinear returns pushes people to be smarter and to think outside the box, and that's part of the reason why capitalism is a better economic system.

[Mate2237]

We can never get an egalitarian society any day because the concert of having an egalitarian society is a theory that is only postulated by scholars and it only ends in the class room, because there will always be the poor and the rich in society and this is a fact that no body can dispute.


The highest that a government can do is to try and see how a country or society can get better by making sure that they provide an enabling environment for everyone in society to thrive and do their business, maybe the area of society that we can talk about having an egalitarian society will be in terms of the human rights of individuals were every one no matter who are should not be above the law.

[Felicity_Tide]

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Do you think such society is attainable before the end of the current generations as proposed by great economist.

I honestly don't think so. Besides, why should everyone get same opportunities or equality in other areas of life when we clearly don't have people with equal work force. If we are to embrace the idea of egalitarian, then it means even those who are lazy and those who are hardworking should be giving the same opportunities despite one deserving it more than the other.

I don't think we would ever see such a society. A typical characteristics of us as humans is competition. Humans will always be above one another. Equality can't be given to everyone when we have both hardworking and lazy people in our society. Everyone has to earn their place.

[Btcdeybodi]

What you have to know is that humans will always strive to be superior than the other. In the animal kingdom, the strongest animal rules the forest and we all know that the Lion is the strongest and bravest amongst them all of which other animals are its prey. Human efforts for success varies and let us remove the fact that there are more poor people than the rich in the society but some people are just so lazy for success, they just want everything on a platter without putting in work and efforts. Even if everyone is the world is being given an equal amount of money, there are still many people who will use their money extravagantly without investing. The truth is that it is difficult to have a society where everyone will be equal in every ramifications because and it's just a natural phenomenon, it can't be changed because it has been like that since the existence of mankind.

[Cheema02]

An egalitarian society is a situation in which everyone is considered equal in both economic, financial and social status.its a concept that emphasizes the importance of social equality, aiming at removing economic inequalities.its indeed a classless society where there is no rich,semi-rich or poor.
If I have $1,000 for instance every other persons will have same.everbody is equal financial stable.nobody is richer to another.
Do you think such society is attainable before the end of the current generations as proposed by great economist.

I think its near impossible to achieve an egalitarian society as no rich person will like to see a poor person at the same place sith same wealth. If someone try to make this society he first of all he has to face the tease and trolls of elite class people sometime he has to face threats. Lets talk about how people become successful or rich. They struggled invested their wealth in business where they got profit and now they are living a great life. If we ever talk about social equality could you please tell me if these people who struggled will want to share their wealth with some poorer people and there should be social equality in rules, laws and regulation of any country but if we talk about the wealth it's impossible.

[coupable]

An egalitarian society is a situation in which everyone is considered equal in both economic, financial and social status.its a concept that emphasizes the importance of social equality, aiming at removing economic inequalities.its indeed a classless society where there is no rich,semi-rich or poor.
If I have $1,000 for instance every other persons will have same.everbody is equal financial stable.nobody is richer to another.
Do you think such society is attainable before the end of the current generations as proposed by great economist.

Short answer; No it's almost impossible to reach this kind of civilazation because human are not equal by default to get equality in everything. If i have the power and the effort to build a big house for a big family, why should i be equal to someone want to live alone in a rent small house? And if this hypothesis can be real one day in our imaginations, who will be the mayestro of this great orchestra of fairness and equity? Usually i don't interact with imaginary scenarios but i think it's worth mentioning that it's an imaginary scenario.

[Dogedegen]

No. Most people who are in favor of these ideas are in the low percentile of productivity or contributions to society. You will rarely find a extremely hard working person advocating for these ideas.

Do you think such society is attainable before the end of the current generations as proposed by great economist.

It is not attainable due to the current psychological development of most people. They are undisciplined and lazy cheats. They will do anything possible to do the least amount of work, even if it means living in relative filth in their own homes. How many people complain that doing the laundry or dishes is hard, when these two actions could not be any easier? An egalitarian society needs a mindset of giving and hard work. Only if people are willing to do equal effort should they be rewarded equally. Everything else is wrong.

Why should I subsidize someone else's laziness and foolishness with my limited lifespan?