Times like this crypto is only true safe heaven.

[SUPERSAIAN]

Upcoming times like this crypto is only true safe heaven.
Forget about gold when rockets will attack your house you aint gona have time to take your gold stacks when you not federal reserve or some big instution or bank or goverment then large gold is not your thing !

Thinking that cryptocurrencies are the safest haven is pure fantasy; it distances one from reality and can lead to many bad investments. There are many different cryptocurrencies, Bitcoin being the most prominent, and thinking this way will also lead you to distance yourself from Bitcoin. Bitcoin is the only safe haven among cryptocurrencies. The rest are just trash, just tokens  should not be financially attached to.

[Dunamisx]

Only those that have been using Bitcoin and learning form what it offers will be able to tell more about it, how it applies to many areas of the financial economy system globally and for their personal uses, those that have given a try on Bitcoin will definitely enjoy its benefits of doubt for trying and they know what it serves them continually.

[Fara Chan]

Only those that have been using Bitcoin and learning form what it offers will be able to tell more about it, how it applies to many areas of the financial economy system globally and for their personal uses, those that have given a try on Bitcoin will definitely enjoy its benefits of doubt for trying and they know what it serves them continually.

And those who don't yet understand and experience the benefits of owning Bitcoin must have the will and courage to buy Bitcoin. Because some who still don't believe in Bitcoin need to open their minds, think more wisely, and also ask more questions from those who have clearly experienced the benefits of owning Bitcoin. Now, world leaders have seen Bitcoin as an important asset and are happy to own it at this time. This can certainly be very good for the sustainability of Bitcoin as an asset that already has greater value in the eyes of many people today.

[Coyster]

I think in times like this precious metals are actually the true safe haven assets. It is evident in the rush by so many countries to stock up on gold and they have not stopped buying. There is also silver, it may not have a large market like gold does, but the industrial demand keeps the price pumping, plus investors see it as a cheaper option to own a precious metal, because it is just $54 an ounce, while gold is $4,342 an ounce, hence they keep buying.

That said, this is not to advice that people stop accumulating bitcoin, because i for one have not stopped. Bitcoin is unique and even if the price falls, it is definitely going to pump again. But if we are talking about the season we are in right now around the world, precious metals are the true safe haven assets.

[free-bit.co.in]

Bitcoin is the only safe haven among cryptocurrencies. The rest are just trash, just tokens  should not be financially attached to.

Bitcoin may be considered the safest place in the crypto world but unfortunately, it is still not a safe haven for us in an unstable economy. Just like what is happening now, as the trade war escalates, geopolitical instability also increases. While the demand for gold has spiked and pushed up the price of gold, the price of bitcoin has been quite volatile and even dumped a few days ago. How can it be said that it is a safe haven?

Bitcoin in particular and cryptocurrencies in general are just speculative assets, they are not safe havens and cannot protect us in times of crisis and economic recession.

[WatChe]

Bitcoin may be considered the safest place in the crypto world but unfortunately, it is still not a safe haven for us in an unstable economy. Just like what is happening now, as the trade war escalates, geopolitical instability also increases. While the demand for gold has spiked and pushed up the price of gold, the price of bitcoin has been quite volatile and even dumped a few days ago. How can it be said that it is a safe haven?

Bitcoin in particular and cryptocurrencies in general are just speculative assets, they are not safe havens and cannot protect us in times of crisis and economic recession.

It's becoming a trend that whenever Bitcoin price goes up we start hearing news like soon Bitcoin will be one million usd and when price goes down we hear opposite stories. In start of October, when Bitcoin touched it's ATH their were speculations that soon we will see 150k. Now as price of Bitcoin has gone down, their is complete FUD in the market.

Bitcoin price has gone down a bit and that's mainly because of tariff standoff between US/China and investment going towards gold. We have to keep this in mind that it's not the first time we are seeing this, it has happened many times in the past. Key take away is that Bitcoin price will recover in the long run, be patient and HODL your Bitcoins.     

[justdimin]

I think in times like this precious metals are actually the true safe haven assets. It is evident in the rush by so many countries to stock up on gold and they have not stopped buying. There is also silver, it may not have a large market like gold does, but the industrial demand keeps the price pumping, plus investors see it as a cheaper option to own a precious metal, because it is just $54 an ounce, while gold is $4,342 an ounce, hence they keep buying.

That said, this is not to advice that people stop accumulating bitcoin, because i for one have not stopped. Bitcoin is unique and even if the price falls, it is definitely going to pump again. But if we are talking about the season we are in right now around the world, precious metals are the true safe haven assets.

I would say that difference doesn't matter because you do not have to buy a full ounce, which means if you have only 54 dollars, then you can buy 54 dollars of gold too, you do to not have to enter at one ounce at the start.

However, what we are seeing here is the fact that we are not really going to make that much money from neither gold nor silver if we invest that little. These are not investments that can give you x10 return or something, or if you want that, then you gotta wait for a decade or something. But if you really want to, it's safe and it's stable so you would not have a risk of losing all your money, that is at least something we can do for a while and shouldn't be worried about it and can get better.

[Odohu]

If you want to be specific, please use Bitcoin and not crypto before some people reading the post will go and buy memecoin or some of those shitcoins thinking they are safe. Meanwhile, gold have proved you wrong somehow because it has performed even better than Bitcoin. Most of the deep pockets choose gold instead of Bitcoin, a little deviation from what most of us projected. So, based on present realities, we can say gold and Bitcoin are the safe haven.

[Scarlett_23]

Gold and fiat money are also worthless during war because people cannot store them. If a gold holder hoards a lot of gold, if there is a war, that gold will have no value. His hard-earned money will lose value, but when held, Bitcoin will be safe in war or any other situation if the holder can properly store his keys. Bitcoin is the safest asset in terms of all types of financial security, including war, inflation.

Any asset is valuable as long as the asset is owned by the person. Gold or fiat currency has value as long as the person owns it. Since it is a physical asset, it needs a secret or safe haven to protect it. But during war, there is a possibility that that safe haven is lost. But Bitcoin does not require much space. Bitcoin is also very easy to carry from one place to another. So if all the money is in Bitcoin, the person's assets will be safe even during war. But instead of keeping all the money in Bitcoin, fiat currency is also needed to meet daily needs.

[Josefjix]

If you want to be specific, please use Bitcoin and not crypto before some people reading the post will go and buy memecoin or some of those shitcoins thinking they are safe. Meanwhile, gold have proved you wrong somehow because it has performed even better than Bitcoin. Most of the deep pockets choose gold instead of Bitcoin, a little deviation from what most of us projected. So, based on present realities, we can say gold and Bitcoin are the safe haven.

Are you judging based on the current downtrend on bitcoin price or the overall movement of the both assets? moreover, Gold is older than bitcoin which had shown heavy dominate in the market and had paid every price to be trusted by bigger investor from the beginning.

Although, there are many stock market assets that are actually safe haven today, microsoft, ETH, Silver and many others are actually Safe haven. 

[Miles2006]

precisely Bitcoin, op should take note the difference so you don’t mislead others. Bitcoin is considered the top safest asset when listing other assets. Well everyone with a different opinion, people also have something to say concerning bitcoin being unsafe for example people get scam and robbed from their wallet still they didn’t expect such yet it happened, I know for a fact bitcoin is safe compared to the listed asset mostly fiat system, fiat depreciates in value aside value a bank can get bankrupt at any time, one should be careful when choosing physical asset so they don’t get affected in times of war.

[Pi-network314159]

Crypto is truely a safe heaven from your explanation. We all know the important of having crypto or Bitcoin in our wallet over having physical Gold. Having physical Gold is like having bunch of physical asset with liability and nconveniences in it.a peson can decide or might have Gold in his reserved at large and lost them to natural disasters and May never be recovered by the crypto asset will be recovered with just having your seed phrase at hand. The evolution of cryptocurrency is very strong and not be taken for granted.

[EFS]

It would be somewhat accurate if you said Bitcoin instead of crypto. There are too many centralized coins and if you consider the crypto market as a whole you'd be mistaken. However, Bitcoin has become an asset that truly stands strong against everything. It no longer has its old volatility, but it still shouldn't be seen as equivalent to assets that have existed for thousands of years. It's still a new technology. While gold, which has existed for more than 5000 years, has a total value of $21 trillion, only 15-year-old Bitcoin is worth one-tenth of that. This data alone shows how rapid the development has been.

[abhiseshakana]

It would be somewhat accurate if you said Bitcoin instead of crypto. There are too many centralized coins and if you consider the crypto market as a whole you'd be mistaken. However, Bitcoin has become an asset that truly stands strong against everything. It no longer has its old volatility, but it still shouldn't be seen as equivalent to assets that have existed for thousands of years. It's still a new technology. While gold, which has existed for more than 5000 years, has a total value of $21 trillion, only 15-year-old Bitcoin is worth one-tenth of that. This data alone shows how rapid the development has been.

Let's compare the current state of Bitcoin vs. gold.

Gold
Currently, it's at a historic high due to massive purchases by central banks (particularly China, Russia, and India), geopolitical uncertainty, and expectations of a US interest rate cut. This reflects market fear and uncertainty, despite high liquidity, from physical assets to derivatives. Gold's only weakness is that it doesn't generate yield and is at risk of being overvalued if global inflation falls and interest rates rise again.

Bitcoin
It is still categorized as a risk-on safe haven, although labeled as an inflation hedge, it still follows short-term global liquidity flows. Despite its high liquidity on the exchange, extreme volatility and regulatory risks remain significant. Weaknesses include technical risks (custody, exchange hacks, regulation), and indications that it remains connected to the stock market.

Currently, Bitcoin remains an option against the monetary system, while gold serves as insurance against the monetary system. So, I'll hold gold if I'm worried about inflation, geopolitical conditions, or the weakening of fiat currencies. However, believing that economic digitalization is inevitable, I'll add the option of holding bitcoin. Depending on the primary objective, for security and stability of value, gold remains the preferred option. If the goal is growth and digital diversification, bitcoin is the choice.

If I could only choose one asset for the next 10 years, I'd set a target amount where I'm prepared to lose most of its value and accumulate it using DCA (since bitcoin is still on its way to becoming a true digital store of value, the potential reward still far outweighs the long-term risk if stored properly). Gold's stagnation and bitcoin's network effect are key considerations.

[Pandorak]

Honestly, it can be said that no asset is completely safe. Every investment or financial instrument has its own risks, and cryptocurrency is no exception. Especially when we look at what has happened recently, various bad news has come out that has destroyed the market in a short time. The trade war between the US and China destroyed the market in a day, giving a shock effect, especially to traders who had active positions in the market. They were hit by massive liquidations. For investors, this certainly tests their mental strength. I see that crypto is becoming easier to manipulate with bad news that appears suddenly.

Cryptocurrency can indeed be used as a store of value, protecting our money from inflation that rises every year, and even providing significant profits, but this will only happen if you have the mindset of an investor, not merely wanting to get rich quickly from trading in cryptocurrency. If you have that mindset, it's only a matter of time before you experience total ruin.   

[bettercrypto]

In fact, if war breaks out, these highly volatile assets are far worse than you might expect. We're not even talking about assets, but about survival. What's being used is tangible goods that you can easily use or exchange.

Have you forgotten how the initial incident, when Russia invaded Ukraine, caused the crypto market to worsen, not improve. Everyone was afraid and moved to places they considered safe. So don't misunderstand, because if that rocket killed your internet power or your technological facilities, it would be a different story.

Until there is internet and Electricity atleast somewhere in the world you have wealth.
If Europe in chaos the servers and computers still good in far away like australia.

And what about volatility or Market crash ? That's not the problem use usdc and usdt and your wealth stable, even better when world in full chaos dollar and usd stablecoins purache power will increase.

Because when markets crashing and debt bomb ticking all the world debt has to be paid by dollars it will create dollar shortages
And dollar and stablecoins value increased and eur gbp and others ones falling big against dollar.

No Wonder why they don't have UK £ stablecoins like USA have usdc and usdt because they know UK will collapse anyways

That's possible, but we must consider a clearly verifiable answer. In practice, it's not as easy as you say. Regarding stablecoins, we see the world from many angles. The dollar also poses major threats, such as hyperinflation. This could be a factor in considering stablecoins as collateral. At times like these, gold becomes highly sought after, as FIAT is easily printed and manipulated.

I hope you can see multiple angles and perspectives to understand the global context when discussing this.

In this era, we all know how important the internet is, and if it disappears, it will have a huge impact on us,
especially since cryptocurrency or Bitcoin only works because of the internet. It would be fine if we were sure that the internet wouldn't be
affected even if a war broke out.

However, what if the internet is affected worldwide? That would be a huge problem for all countries and especially for our crypto community that depends on the internet.
We also know that the majority of people now rely on the internet for many things and reasons.

[AprilioMP]

Until there is internet and Electricity atleast somewhere in the world you have wealth.
If Europe in chaos the servers and computers still good in far away like australia.

Yes, right. People can still access assets that are stored as long-term investments and what I want to say is Bitcoin.
Apart from Bitcoin, I don't dare to say that other types of crypto are good even if they are stored well without being easily lost due to the chaos that occurs in a country, so as long as the person is still alive and of sound mind, he can still have the assets stored.
It's not about price, it's about hedging and Bitcoin at its best. As for crypto, I'm up in arms about that.

[Bluedrem]

War sanctions, these bring down fiat currencies a lot. Even if my house is not hit by a rocket attack, if the assets are not destroyed, we will still be able to see how much purchasing power we have lost, that is, how much fiat currency has lost its value. In the last few years, the dollar has significantly lost its own value due to several wars, including the Russia-Ukraine war. Not only the dollar, but all fiat currencies worldwide have lost their value significantly. In that context, if we analyze the price of Bitcoin in the last few years, we will see that it was much safer and those who stored Bitcoin got higher returns than other things. Bitcoin is not only digital gold, it is much better than gold.

[Swordsoffreedom]

War sanctions, these bring down fiat currencies a lot. Even if my house is not hit by a rocket attack, if the assets are not destroyed, we will still be able to see how much purchasing power we have lost, that is, how much fiat currency has lost its value. In the last few years, the dollar has significantly lost its own value due to several wars, including the Russia-Ukraine war. Not only the dollar, but all fiat currencies worldwide have lost their value significantly. In that context, if we analyze the price of Bitcoin in the last few years, we will see that it was much safer and those who stored Bitcoin got higher returns than other things. Bitcoin is not only digital gold, it is much better than gold.

Even without armed conflict, trade wars or global financial crises, fiat money will still lose value over time because it is designed to lose value. Meanwhile, bitcoin is designed in the exact opposite way to fiat with a fixed, decentralized supply, so it often tends to move in the opposite direction to fiat, increasing in price over time.
But note that this is only true in the long run, not necessarily in the short run. Bitcoin can still be speculated and dumped, even losing 20%-50% in the short term. This does not happen with fiat.

But when comparing bitcoin and gold, both are good, and have their own pros and cons. Bitcoin is not better than gold in every way. As we are currently witnessing, gold prices have been steadily rising during the turbulence and those who invest in gold have not only been able to preserve the value of their assets but also made significant profits. Meanwhile, bitcoin was dumped and tended to decrease during the time of chaos.


So it cannot be said that bitcoin is better than gold in every way. Gold is the real and only safe haven, while bitcoin is not a safe haven yet.

[qurbanshah02]

War sanctions, these bring down fiat currencies a lot. Even if my house is not hit by a rocket attack, if the assets are not destroyed, we will still be able to see how much purchasing power we have lost, that is, how much fiat currency has lost its value. In the last few years, the dollar has significantly lost its own value due to several wars, including the Russia-Ukraine war. Not only the dollar, but all fiat currencies worldwide have lost their value significantly. In that context, if we analyze the price of Bitcoin in the last few years, we will see that it was much safer and those who stored Bitcoin got higher returns than other things. Bitcoin is not only digital gold, it is much better than gold.

Obviously, when there is such a big loss in the war and a lot of money is spent on it, they definitely do it because the country's economy needs to be improved and the money that has been spent needs to be recovered. This will require rocket fuel, which, if we look at the currency of any country, amounts to millions. Therefore, they can make some things expensive in their country by calculating everything, which they can use to maintain their warplanes and their systems. The power of these two countries is quite high and Russia always prepares for war generously, due to which the population in this country is also very large, so attention is also paid to its grains and other things. Bitcoin has been seen to weaken in every war, due to which this system and shortages continue to increase with the war between the two countries, so this becomes a loss for us.