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November 10, 2025, 06:12:40 AM
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Your value depends on your position. In our society, no matter how humble or polite you are, you won’t have any real worth. If your footing isn’t strong, you remain powerless. On the other hand, I have seen many unscrupulous people gain high status in society simply because of their position.
The question then arises: Is it only those with wealth and power who can get away with wrongdoing? Or should there be proper justice for every act of injustice?
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November 10, 2025, 07:38:32 AM
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You ask a rhetorical question with an obvious answer, I'm not sure how much discussion you will get out of doing that. If course (almost) everyone wants to live in a fair and equal society, where the rich are subject to all the same rules as an average earner. There's generally going to be two situations however. First, your country has corruption which starts at the very top and being rich means if you pay the right people a certain amount the charges disappear. This should also include countries that accept things like "blood money". Secondly in some countries being rich means you can hire expensive lawyers who slow down or are specialists in navigating complex legal structures to maximize them for a client.

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November 10, 2025, 09:02:13 AM
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You ask a rhetorical question with an obvious answer, I'm not sure how much discussion you will get out of doing that. If course (almost) everyone wants to live in a fair and equal society, where the rich are subject to all the same rules as an average earner. There's generally going to be two situations however. First, your country has corruption which starts at the very top and being rich means if you pay the right people a certain amount the charges disappear. This should also include countries that accept things like "blood money". Secondly in some countries being rich means you can hire expensive lawyers who slow down or are specialists in navigating complex legal structures to maximize them for a client.
What you said makes sense, but I see it a bit differently. Reality doesn’t always match what we imagine in our minds. We may picture an ideal and fair society where the rich and the poor are treated equally under the law — but in truth, things are far more complex. Corruption, bias, and the influence of power will always exist in some form, yet that doesn’t mean it will last forever. Change comes slowly, through awareness and a strong belief in justice. So, no matter how beautiful our imagination is, the wise thing is to understand reality and work according to it.
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December 28, 2025, 06:26:51 AM
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In practice, position > principle in many societies. Power gives voice, protection, and leverage, while honesty w/o footing often goes unheard. That’s why you see corrupt or immoral ppl rise—they understand the system, not the ethics.
That said, it shouldn’t be this way. Justice is meant to be blind, but in reality it often peeks at status and wealth first. Money buys time, lawyers, influence—avg ppl rarely have that buffer.
So yes, those w/ power often “get away w/ it,” at least short-term. But history shows power shifts. Reputation, records, and consequences tend to catch up eventually.
Real change comes when institutions are strong and ppl stop worshipping position alone. Until then, footing sadly matters more than character.

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December 28, 2025, 10:55:37 AM
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Your value depends on your position. In our society, no matter how humble or polite you are, you won’t have any real worth. If your footing isn’t strong, you remain powerless.

If your society is like that and only rewards people with money, it means you will get mediocres everywhere, no real life and no effort towards personal and national growth because everyone will be striving to make money from whatever means including illicit ways. That will definitely lead to backwardness in economic growth.



The question then arises: Is it only those with wealth and power who can get away with wrongdoing? Or should there be proper justice for every act of injustice?

While growing up, I heard good name is better than riches. Meaning there was reward and national recognition for hard work, so what is now happening in your country is overriding of what has been.

In a sane system, the understanding of hard work pays (though smart hard work) is still operational and people still receive awards plus recognition in their different respective field and career and not just about wealth.

The wealthy though try to influence systems of justice in different countries but societies that have built independent institutions have kept to rule of law that even the wealthy get punished for their wrongful doing.

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December 28, 2025, 11:26:56 AM
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Your value depends on your position. In our society, no matter how humble or polite you are, you won’t have any real worth. If your footing isn’t strong, you remain powerless. On the other hand, I have seen many unscrupulous people gain high status in society simply because of their position.
Not everyone considers themselves valuable simply because of their position or wealth. People who hold onto principles will not become suckers for immoral people.

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The question then arises: Is it only those with wealth and power who can get away with wrongdoing? Or should there be proper justice for every act of injustice?
Accumulated powerlessness becomes a tremendous force when power turns into greed for exploitation and oppression. "It only takes a small spark to set an entire forest ablaze." This is a lesson learned from the Nepal riots a few months ago.

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December 28, 2025, 07:56:33 PM
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Your value depends on your position. In our society, no matter how humble or polite you are, you won’t have any real worth. If your footing isn’t strong, you remain powerless. On the other hand, I have seen many unscrupulous people gain high status in society simply because of their position.

You're trying to make a good point though but I still don't get where you're heading to, value is priceless and at such one needs to see themselves that way. Your value doesn't defines your position in life and the society at large but the manner at which you stretch hands to  people beneath you explains a lot. But in our society today the main reasons are behind flawed due to corruptions and selfish gains and it proves position defines how worthy and d valued you are whereas it's not.

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December 28, 2025, 09:17:11 PM
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The question then arises: Is it only those with wealth and power who can get away with wrongdoing? Or should there be proper justice for every act of injustice?

Your question is, should there be proper justice? The answer is of course there should be equal treatment otherwise it’s not really justice anymore.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/justice

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Justice is the ethical, philosophical idea that people are to be treated impartially, fairly, properly, and reasonably by the law and by arbiters of the law, that laws are to ensure that no harm befalls another, and that, where harm is alleged, a remedial action is taken

Yes, there should be justice but the truth is it’s not always upheld. Injustice will always exist in our world.
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