How do you evaluate that you're still gambling responsibly?

[Emjay24]

As long as I gamble with a budget and I have control over my gambling desires and not engage in it when I have other priorities, I am gambling responsibly. Your friend is not thinking rightly and he doesn't know that you are showing him love by pointing out what he is doing wrongly and he is choosing to get defensive, anyways he shouldn't measure  himself with others since he doesn't know the level of backup those people may have in case of financial challenges compared to his. Some of them may have an active fall back plans if it gets worse, but does he?

There are many factors we consider when making decisions or measuring the our addiction levels but comparing your gambling prowess with another person's is definitely a very wrong thing to do, he is very wrong in that case

[Darker45]

I admit I sometimes gamble more than I should, but I'm aware that it's beyond moderation. I always go back to gambling what I can afford to lose.

This is the point that my junior is refusing to admit, that he is being excessive and in denial so he is not prepared to take an inventory of himself and his financial life to see reasons to cut down on his gambling, maybe a bad financial condition is the only situation would force someone like him to be more diligent in handling his cashflow, that is if he would be willing to learn from his mistakes and not find yet another thing to blame.

A bad financial condition would either make him realize his faults and be more mindful of his finances or push him further toward the edge, toward a point of no return. I won't wish him that. Prevention is better than cure.

There are infamous gamblers in my country who were pushed to the limit, reaching a point of desperation. It didn't make them any better. It turned them from addiction victims into criminals. I hope your colleague's friends and family won't give up on him and guide him back to the proper way. 

[TheUltraElite]

The spreadsheets work both in tracking and reducing the gambling habits. That is why they are never maintained by regular gamblers. Thry are supposed to be non punitive but for them it ends up being the opposite.

So for any gambler who wants to track how badly they are gambling maintain the spreadsheet. You will easily assess how much you have lost and how much you could have potentially saved over years if you follow this method. Using some other persons habit to justify yours is wrong.

[libert19]

I was advising a junior colleague who obviously is gambling excessively with respect to his earnings and in self defense he pointed out to me some others who were worse than himself as a vindication of his own already bad practice.

Of a truth, the people he referred to are 5X worse than him and it was obvious they started from his level and degraded to a worse condition. I tried pointing out to him that measuring excessive gambling is a self evaluation with respect to your finances and not using others as a yardstick of measurement but he dismissed my with the words "As long as I'm not yet gambling like these guys, I'm fine".

I'm sure this mindset exists especially among friends who are into gambling and I decided to bring it up here for discussion

Such mindset exists even outside of gambling, I find myself in this kind of mindset sometimes where I compare meself with somebody worse than meself, justifying my wrong behaviour, though I do it but I KNOW this is not right.

Do you think it's right to reference to others as a yardstick to evaluate your level of responsible gambling?

In gambling or otherwise, it's not right to use others as yardstick to evaluate yourself.

How do you measure yours?

I read this quote a long time ago: the only person you should measure yourself against is person you were yesterday (measure word wasn't used there, but I used it here in context of statement).

[giammangiato]

Do you think it's right to reference to others as a yardstick to evaluate your level of responsible gambling?

How do you measure yours?

If you try to convince a friend who has taken this path and doesn't want to listen to you, don't waste your time.
They are convinced that they are doing well and that they are right, those who have had a bad economic period because of gambling and have overcome it by adopting simple rules understand well what you are talking about.
But I assure you, the more you try to explain, the more you'll lose your friend. The only thing you can do is help him emotionally only if he asks. If you can convince him little by little, maybe you can save him before the disaster.

[Dunamisx]

If we are found gambling and any other thing concerning us remains unaffected, then we are a responsible gambler, we need to know what to do and apply the right approach for us to have a much better experience in gambling, we also may not totally depend on our own self for self-evaluation in gambling, others as well may bring the reflective image of how we have been gambling from what they have observed from us.

[Taricoins]

If we are found gambling and any other thing concerning us remains unaffected, then we are a responsible gambler, we need to know what to do and apply the right approach for us to have a much better experience in gambling, we also may not totally depend on our own self for self-evaluation in gambling, others as well may bring the reflective image of how we have been gambling from what they have observed from us.

Gambling itself can be evaluated in diverse of ways, so definitely it might be up to you or from the perspective of others on how you may tend to gamble. Respecting oneself is already gambling responsibly, not just that, also when you respect the finances you may use for any form of gambling. Mostly when others see the clarity in you on how and what mentality you have when gambling then you gamble responsibly.

[Anayochukwu]

How do you measure yours?

I am not in competition with anybody therefore, I don't look up to anyone for evaluation. I have been addicted before and I don't want that to happen again which is the main reason why I gamble only for fun. You wouldn't be able to gamble with your real senses if you are using someone gambling lifestyle to evaluate yourself because it can lead you astray.

Some gamblers are just making things difficult by themselves, why would a gambler even think of that? It doesn't make any sense to evaluate yourself with others. Because every gamblers has their own reasoning and lifestyle, so it seems quite childish to have such mentality as long as you are gambling responsibly without getting addicted or something else you don't have to put yourself with others because gambling is not a competition.

[xenomorfo]

If we are found gambling and any other thing concerning us remains unaffected, then we are a responsible gambler, we need to know what to do and apply the right approach for us to have a much better experience in gambling, we also may not totally depend on our own self for self-evaluation in gambling, others as well may bring the reflective image of how we have been gambling from what they have observed from us.

Exactly, you said it right, someone else had said it too. If more than the situation is unchanged, if your lifestyle does not change or does not worsen because you gamble, play cards or bet, then it means that you are doing it well. Otherwise it means you are overdoing it and ruining your lifestyle.

[fullfitlarry]

I'm sure this mindset exists especially among friends who are into gambling and I decided to bring it up here for discussion.

Do you think it's right to reference to others as a yardstick to evaluate your level of responsible gambling?

How do you measure yours?

As long as you know your priorities, maybe spending money on gambling but at the end of the day, if you are have a family, then you can still put a decent food in the table 24x7. You wake up, don't think about gambling and then go in the day like a normal person.

Maybe you have a regular 9-to-5 job that you need to fulfill and then you socialized with your co-workers, your boss and others in the company. At the end of the day, you go home, maybe play a little when you lose then you don't deposit any more.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

Do you think it's right to reference to others as a yardstick to evaluate your level of responsible gambling?

How do you measure yours?

It's a stupid behavior for a gambler to compare their level of addiction to that of others who are already more compulsive than they are. Meaning that he or she wants to be as worse as those other compulsive gamblers that he is using as a factor of defense before they can stop. That's really the bad way to measure or evaluate if one is gambling responsibly or not, the way I evaluate it is by checking if I'm still gambling with the amount I can afford to lose or not.

[DPHOR]

In as much as I am still gambling within the little balance I funded without me having to constantly making deposit to the gambling or even chasing my loses I am still gambling within my means, this shows that I responsible gambler. For sure, those who are not gambling responsibly often go above their limits and targets and they wouldn't mind trying all things possible just to make sure they have broken into the house and have some specific winning before they could stop gambling, whenever you see such a person you should know that such person is an irresponsible gambler.

[summonerrk]

I was advising a junior colleague who obviously is gambling excessively with respect to his earnings and in self defense he pointed out to me some others who were worse than himself as a vindication of his own already bad practice.

Of a truth, the people he referred to are 5X worse than him and it was obvious they started from his level and degraded to a worse condition. I tried pointing out to him that measuring excessive gambling is a self evaluation with respect to your finances and not using others as a yardstick of measurement but he dismissed my with the words "As long as I'm not yet gambling like these guys, I'm fine".

I'm sure this mindset exists especially among friends who are into gambling and I decided to bring it up here for discussion.

Do you think it's right to reference to others as a yardstick to evaluate your level of responsible gambling?

How do you measure yours?

You've given a perfectly relevant example of how inveterate gamblers can try to shift responsibility by claiming they haven't hit rock bottom yet. Among such examples, I know of a Russian gambler blogger who has incredible mental and financial problems. He's the famous Bestov.
Because of this, he's become a media personality, and because everyone in the CIS is watching and laughing at him, his viewers with gambling problems use the excuse that they haven't sunk to his level.

[Antotena]

I was advising a junior colleague who obviously is gambling excessively with respect to his earnings and in self defense he pointed out to me some others who were worse than himself as a vindication of his own already bad practice.

Of a truth, the people he referred to are 5X worse than him and it was obvious they started from his level and degraded to a worse condition. I tried pointing out to him that measuring excessive gambling is a self evaluation with respect to your finances and not using others as a yardstick of measurement but he dismissed my with the words "As long as I'm not yet gambling like these guys, I'm fine".

I don't think that stressing yourself over another person that refused to take correction. At my stage in life, even my brothers do advice me and I don't take any for granted because even in nonsense, there is a sense in there. Gambling isn't a do or die thing, there are days I don't even look at any casino and I don't die if I don't gamble, I have my work as a source of income and I make sure that I don't go broke, it's when you don't have momeh you begin to see gambling as a way to double money.

I believe your homie has some money to sacrifice, if he doesn't have he will stop gambling without informing you, I think you will be the one to be asking him why he has stop gambling and you have not been seeing him gambling of recent. Some people don't know when to called a spade a spade, your only concern is make sure you don't loan him any money, don't give him money that he isn't going to pay back, their end is not always good.

[cxtreenal]

I really hate comparing yourself to others even if that person is worthy of buying the whole world. To be responsible in gambling you have to stop comparing yourself to others and even if you lose everything you should still have confidence in yourself. I am just saying this as an example that never compare yourself to others because in reality you are a different person and you are as talented as yourself. Consider your financial situation while gambling and always keep the door of conscience open because mistakes in gambling start when you cannot use your conscience.

[ASloveapg]

If we are found gambling and any other thing concerning us remains unaffected, then we are a responsible gambler, we need to know what to do and apply the right approach for us to have a much better experience in gambling, we also may not totally depend on our own self for self-evaluation in gambling, others as well may bring the reflective image of how we have been gambling from what they have observed from us.

Gambling itself can be evaluated in diverse of ways, so definitely it might be up to you or from the perspective of others on how you may tend to gamble. Respecting oneself is already gambling responsibly, not just that, also when you respect the finances you may use for any form of gambling. Mostly when others see the clarity in you on how and what mentality you have when gambling then you gamble responsibly.

Managing money well, being responsible, knowing your limits and keeping your emotions under control are the hallmarks of a responsible gambler. Lose yourself, accept defeat, don't just call yourself responsible, prove your responsibility only through responsible behavior, this discipline of money management has to be maintained at all times. Many people play just for the thrill of winning, but this is a mistake. You should only gamble with a certain amount of money, and if you lose, you have to stop immediately. the day you learn to control your emotions, only then will you be responsible.

[Orpichukwu]

I don't consider it right to be using others to encourage ourselves to gamble more, as our fingers are not equal, nor are most of our financial statuses. Most of those whom we might see gambling worse than us might actually be earning way more than we could possibly think of, so even as they are losing that amount, they still have enough money to foot bills, and if we are not careful and take encouragement from those that gamble more than us, we might end up even being worse than them.

[Akbarkoe]

I was advising a junior colleague who obviously is gambling excessively with respect to his earnings and in self defense he pointed out to me some others who were worse than himself as a vindication of his own already bad practice.

Of a truth, the people he referred to are 5X worse than him and it was obvious they started from his level and degraded to a worse condition. I tried pointing out to him that measuring excessive gambling is a self evaluation with respect to your finances and not using others as a yardstick of measurement but he dismissed my with the words "As long as I'm not yet gambling like these guys, I'm fine".

I'm sure this mindset exists especially among friends who are into gambling and I decided to bring it up here for discussion.

Do you think it's right to reference to others as a yardstick to evaluate your level of responsible gambling?

How do you measure yours?

That thinking is wrong, there is nothing good if you have a benchmark that is applied to other people, because it will certainly be different, you and he must be different, from there it is clear that your normal factor or tolerance is different, or your ability and the ability of the person you as a benchmark,

must stick to personal rules, with limited finances and enough time to gamble, as long as you use the time and money in accordance with your arrangements you will remain safe in gambling, the size must be you yourself measure yourself in accepting defeat, to what extent will feel it is too much then before that you must have limits.

When a gambler state copying others, this is an error already and we can not learn to imitate others and think we can be successful, no we can't, you are only a photocopy of the original. No matter what he or she is doing maybe leading him to a success/winning, don't think that it will definitely work with you, everyone self is totally different and we can be different if we have our own set piece for ourselves, despite the loses. Have a proper limit on what to do or what not to. No what you want, have a set goal, have time to gamble and lastly is to respect your finances, which will definitely explain one to be responsible when gambling or a responsible gambler.

Your context is a little off the main track, imitating others from finding the path of success is certainly always there and worth trying, but we are not talking about it, we are talking about self-evaluation in accepting the tolerance of defeat, in self-comparison it is not feasible because everyone must have a different tolerance according to their emotional and ability, but if imitating the way of success is fine, because that is what many companies do and of course many people too, imitating to pursue success is natural.

[Btcdeybodi]

Do you think it's right to reference to others as a yardstick to evaluate your level of responsible gambling?

That would be a very foolish thing to do, how can someone be deriving joy that other gamblers are worse than him therefore he begins to see himself as a responsible gambler. Gambling responsible has to do with your own discipline towards how you go about your gambling lifestyle, if others are gambling without constraints, it shouldn't motivate you to do the same just because they spend more money than you do.

[Floxynice]

How do you measure yours?

Honestly, a gambler needs a conscious mind to know when he is overstepping his boundaries or when he is doing too much. He might think he still has everything under control unknown to him that everything has gone bad already.

I had a similar experience while still in the university, although this is not related to gambling. I found out that I was becoming so fond of my mobile device and it was affecting my studies negatively. I didn't wait for anyone to point out those lapses to me before I started to adjust my lifestyle. If I see that gambling is beginning to have negative effect on my finances, my time, relationships, job and personal time, I will adjust immediately. If I couldn't notice on time (which I doubt), my friends and loved ones will draw my attention to it.