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November 30, 2025, 08:38:09 PM
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Politics is so dirty, and it's hard to connect that with morals. Unless the politics is known to be good in some certain countries that they've got honor and they're protecting it based on how they have performed for so long. Otherwise, it's known to be not a good way to connect with morals. Because in a democratic country, what the politicians will tell us for them to get our votes is likely a lie just to take your confidence for them. We know that, and that's why we do say "same old politics".
The major problem of politics is that no matter how clean you paint it, the deeper part would remain dirty. So many elections come and go with little pronounced vices . However, when you look deep into the election process you will see several shady areas where many things have been done to secure the victory.

Just like we're currently witnessing with the Guinea Bissau government and the current military takeover. The returning ECOWAS and AU monitor, His excellency Goodluck Ebele Jonathan remarked that the election was done calmly and transparently with no altercation. However he further reveals that he was surprised that the sitting president was the one to announce the coup and was still communicating with the public from a supposed cell. This incidence is very recent and the point there is that, despite having a good electoral process, the politicians planned what the returning ECOWAS monitor described as a ceremonial coup just to boycott the results from being announced because he suspected he was going to loose.

Almost every politician has that inner aspect of do or die mindset and that's what makes it a very dirty game that cannot relate to morals in any way. Politicians are too desperate to win and they're usually ready to do anything for them to win.

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December 01, 2025, 10:00:41 AM
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Morals are simply what we believe to be wrong or right. Politics might be a dirty game and one full of lies but I believe it still have relation with morals. Morality in politics is a personal things, some people in politics might choose bad morals why some might go with good morals. Leaders with good morals we see the followers will always be in support of them.
Also we see that some of the laws made by our leaders is based on morality and in instances where the laws are defaulted the culprits are being dealt with accordingly.
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December 02, 2025, 05:35:29 PM
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MORAL simple refer to the principal of about what's right or wrong, good or bad in behavior, according to Niccolo Machiavelli who's argue   that politics success may require action that are not considered moral in private life. Due to some recent advancement in the field of life some philosophers and great thinkers believe that moral and politics are inherently linked, with morality providing a necessary check on power and serving as a foundation for law and governance. Although the relationship between politics and moral is a subject of ongoing debate, some see politics as separate, amoral, pursuit, while others see it as an extension of morality, politics has impact on the society regardless the difference on accepting how good and transparency it may be on society.

Politics, whether local or global, is always a yoke without rules or principles. Local politicians lie to local voters, deceiving them. Global politics manipulates and lies on a global scale. But they always have an explanation along the lines of “it's for the security and benefit of the state” or “it will be beneficial for the citizens of the country”... In the latter case, it is not explained exactly which citizens of the country will benefit from this, because if you get such a list, it almost always coincides with the politicians' entourage, their families, relatives, and close friends Smiley
Therefore, NO ONE USES morality there, but morality is constantly USED AS A COVER to achieve personal gain.


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December 05, 2025, 11:46:14 AM
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The major problem of politics is that no matter how clean you paint it, the deeper part would remain dirty. So many elections come and go with little pronounced vices . However, when you look deep into the election process you will see several shady areas where many things have been done to secure the victory.
Politics moves side by side to reach and enhance a certain group of people, when that happens some part of the society begin to face tough times, while the rulling set of people would be making solid profits and wealths. Whenever anybody gets to the point where their side is the winning party, the definition they all give to politics would change. It then become what they see it as. Nothing is with politics it's about the people and power.

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December 05, 2025, 10:08:00 PM
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Even if he is a politician, he should be morally advanced. Those who have morality will also be ahead in politics. Though If morality is not valued much in current politics but to be a good politician or to be a good person, one must understand the importance of morality. If someone is morally advanced before becoming a politician, then he will get public support and the general public will be benefited by him.

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December 05, 2025, 11:59:09 PM
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Just like the way you have explained what moral is all about, you can not plainly condemn politics because you felt like it's evil in your sight and people that are into politics are bad people that should be seen as people that are bad in nature. That is just an opinion and there is nothing that justify it to be absolutely true. For you to see something and assume that it's bad is a wrong ethics. If there are more people that assume that politics is good and should not be seen as evil, then you believe about politics will become wrong.

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December 07, 2025, 07:42:40 PM
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Politics and moral don’t really move together. Most politicians know how to twist words, avoid blames and make everything sound deep without actually doing anything. They set these laws but somehow they’re always exempt.
The truth is politics is more about winning and protecting their reputation than doing what’s right. Morals only shows up when it’s time for campaigns or when they want to appear good.

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December 12, 2025, 06:58:44 PM
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But the other side has a point too. Politics without any moral guardrails? That's how you get pure tyranny. Morality is the society's built-in check on power, keeping things from going completely off the rails.

The real tea? It's never all one or the other. Politics is the messy, constant grind between getting power and using it right. Anyone who says it's purely one thing is capping
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December 15, 2025, 06:18:35 PM
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Even if he is a politician, he should be morally advanced. Those who have morality will also be ahead in politics. Though If morality is not valued much in current politics but to be a good politician or to be a good person, one must understand the importance of morality. If someone is morally advanced before becoming a politician, then he will get public support and the general public will be benefited by him.
I partly agree, but tbh politics isn’t a clean environment. A morally strong person entering politics will face pressure, deals, and compromises nonstop. Some manage to keep their values, others slowly bend them. Morality matters, yeah, but the system itself often makes it hard to act purely moral all the time.
The worst part of the game of politics is that, the system has its way of corrupting even the innocent ones amongst them, because there are criteria that need to be met before you can attain a particular position or level in politics, and those criteria involves getting involved with certain things that’ll most likely corrupt your morals. It’s like the natural rules of the game and only those who play by those rules actually succeed, and those who don’t have the guts to, would either remain on the least levels or better still quit.

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December 15, 2025, 07:39:20 PM
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Just like the way you have explained what moral is all about, you can not plainly condemn politics because you felt like it's evil in your sight and people that are into politics are bad people that should be seen as people that are bad in nature. That is just an opinion and there is nothing that justify it to be absolutely true. For you to see something and assume that it's bad is a wrong ethics. If there are more people that assume that politics is good and should not be seen as evil, then you believe about politics will become wrong.
Politics was supposed to be fair and filled with the right morals. All politicians are expected to follow laws and order, and obey the constitution, obviously things have changed for the worse, politics is now very dirty game for corrupt people who don't care about good morals and principles. In recent time, politics are good morals are pulling away from each other, there is no link within them, the worse set of politicians without morals are usually the winners during election, because they go extra miles to make sure they win, while the other aspirant is busy playing by the rules that don't count.

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December 15, 2025, 09:17:49 PM
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Just like the way you have explained what moral is all about, you can not plainly condemn politics because you felt like it's evil in your sight and people that are into politics are bad people that should be seen as people that are bad in nature. That is just an opinion and there is nothing that justify it to be absolutely true. For you to see something and assume that it's bad is a wrong ethics. If there are more people that assume that politics is good and should not be seen as evil, then you believe about politics will become wrong.
Politics itself is not bad, but the people who are given the power to run the politics of a nation make it seem difficult for the people they represent to understand what is going on. Humans will always be humans, they will always show their bad sides which is obviously influenced by greed or the quest to remain powerful.

Politics is not the game of one person. Even if there is one good man who really want to show good moral conducts,the majority bad guys will still ruin his efforts. Like the popular saying goes "if you can't beat them, you join them", that is the unfortunate situation with politics.  With all of this going on, it is not out of place to say politics is truly a dirty game.

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December 16, 2025, 06:41:57 AM
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Even if he is a politician, he should be morally advanced. Those who have morality will also be ahead in politics. Though If morality is not valued much in current politics but to be a good politician or to be a good person, one must understand the importance of morality. If someone is morally advanced before becoming a politician, then he will get public support and the general public will be benefited by him.
I don’t know if it is possible for you to be able to distinguish the difference between politics and morality or with say ethical politics and morality because you can’t say you are a representative of the people’s interests, people across wide variety of interests and backgrounds and you will not be morally advanced yourself as a politician. In this kind of situation you are not supposed to exhibit the character of the irresponsible people even when they eventually are more in numbers but for you to live a live of positive impact which will become a point of emulation to many who are struggling to become a better version of themselves. As a leader you are supposed to lead by example and not the opposite, so you must work on your moral standards if you want to become a successful politician for a long period of time.

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December 16, 2025, 07:03:00 AM
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Correlating moral to politics mostly the type played in this third world countries especially where the politician have not build it from scratch before joining the political career may seem trying to force two unlike terms to meet even when it's not possible.politician is know for one major thing, once the word "lies" is removed they are of no difference between you who are not politician. It's this lie and deviation from truth that stand as their convincing power. Even though who have moral before joining politics give up from upholding such because the system is not of morality. There is allot that deviate from morality in politics, especially when the so called politicians is power Morger, they do anything to assertined the seat focusing on morality pull you out from the system even if you have it , you will be forced by the force's that be to retrieve such morality.

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December 16, 2025, 11:06:45 PM
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Correlating moral to politics mostly the type played in this third world countries especially where the politician have not build it from scratch before joining the political career may seem trying to force two unlike terms to meet even when it's not possible.politician is know for one major thing, once the word "lies" is removed they are of no difference between you who are not politician. It's this lie and deviation from truth that stand as their convincing power. Even though who have moral before joining politics give up from upholding such because the system is not of morality. There is allot that deviate from morality in politics, especially when the so called politicians is power Morger, they do anything to assertined the seat focusing on morality pull you out from the system even if you have it , you will be forced by the force's that be to retrieve such morality.

I’ve seen this play out locally. Good intentions don’t survive long when you’re surrounded by power brokers and backroom deals. It’s not that morality disappears overnight, it just becomes a liability in that environment

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December 21, 2025, 09:32:47 PM
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MORAL simple refer to the principal of about what's right or wrong, good or bad in behavior, according to Niccolo Machiavelli who's argue   that politics success may require action that are not considered moral in private life. Due to some recent advancement in the field of life some philosophers and great thinkers believe that moral and politics are inherently linked, with morality providing a necessary check on power and serving as a foundation for law and governance. Although the relationship between politics and moral is a subject of ongoing debate, some see politics as separate, amoral, pursuit, while others see it as an extension of morality, politics has impact on the society regardless the difference on accepting how good and transparency it may be on society.
Politics is a dirty game that has nothing to do with morals, or the best way to put it is that politics isn't a bad thing but the people that are in political positions are the bad eggs we have in every nation and most of them don't even have conscience anymore and maybe it's the power that is controlling them and making them fail to do right by the citizens or every bad politician are naturally bad but just waiting for power to be given to them before they show their real self to everyone.

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Politics has direct influence on the society and Morals has direct influence on the society. Both of which being society oriented, can mean or imply that they work hand in hand or are supposed to work hand in hand. That means they can't go separate ways. These pronounces a simple circumstances that an immoral society is a home for immoral politics and vice versa.  Morality to a point or all point is not actually implying perfection, it only gives a level playing ground for all by undermining a lot of social ills or obvious social ills thereby creating a healthy society.
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People are going into politics today without adopting what is all about morals, because they have the mentality that in politics, there are no permanent friends or enemies, but we must be careful in some of our actions not to behave inhumane by taking decisions on what will affects others, also, talking about morals, we have to develop ourself, because we needed a good moral in other to achieve success in life, all these count, not because we are the worst or the most perfect, but we understand the value in others opinions.

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December 25, 2025, 09:28:35 PM
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MORAL simple refer to the principal of about what's right or wrong, good or bad in behavior, according to Niccolo Machiavelli who's argue   that politics success may require action that are not considered moral in private life. Due to some recent advancement in the field of life some philosophers and great thinkers believe that moral and politics are inherently linked, with morality providing a necessary check on power and serving as a foundation for law and governance. Although the relationship between politics and moral is a subject of ongoing debate, some see politics as separate, amoral, pursuit, while others see it as an extension of morality, politics has impact on the society regardless the difference on accepting how good and transparency it may be on society.

Politics, whether local or global, is always a yoke without rules or principles. Local politicians lie to local voters, deceiving them. Global politics manipulates and lies on a global scale. But they always have an explanation along the lines of “it's for the security and benefit of the state” or “it will be beneficial for the citizens of the country”... In the latter case, it is not explained exactly which citizens of the country will benefit from this, because if you get such a list, it almost always coincides with the politicians' entourage, their families, relatives, and close friends Smiley
Therefore, NO ONE USES morality there, but morality is constantly USED AS A COVER to achieve personal gain.

Leaders across every nation in this modern age use the aspect of morality to stylishly cover up their true interests and if we are to look at things objectively, then politics is a bit separate from morality, because all these politicians will promise both achieveable and unachievable thing to their citizens and at the end of the day the only people that will benefit from their cabinet of goodwill! Once they get to the office, it will be those who are closer to power. But honestly, without some level of moral checks then politics as a whole is extremely dangerous because governance and law actually need a concrete foundation to solidify between what is wrong and what is right. So when it comes to the talk of morality in politics then the facts are generally twisted.

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