[Pre-ANN poll] A new 3 coins series | RC x Ballet collaboration

[raritycheck]

While we wait for Ballet to ship out remaining 2 coin sets in the Three wise monkey series.

We are fortunate to do another collab with them which will have unique designs and never before seen/made pattern (neither by us nor by Ballet and so far from what we see no one in the community has used such designs).

We have few questions to the collectors(and innovation lovers) for this new series:

1. Do you prefer coins should be silver metal or copper?
2. Coins should be 100 coins per set (i.e. 100 of design 1, 100 of   design 2 and 100 of   design3)  or 200  per design so 600 total?
3. Only funded or buyer funded?

Anything else positive which can help please let us know.

Note: This is a self-moderated topic, off-topic comments will be deleted

Thank you

[howardsentell]

While we wait for Ballet to ship out remaining 2 coin sets in the Three wise monkey series.

We are fortunate to do another collab with them which will have unique designs and never before seen/made pattern (neither by us nor by Ballet and so far from what we see no one in the community has used such designs).

We have few questions to the collectors(and innovation lovers) for this new series:

1. Do you prefer coins should be silver metal or copper?
2. Coins should be 100 coins per set (i.e. 100 of design 1, 100 of   design 2 and 100 of   design3)  or 200  per design so 600 total?
3. Only funded or buyer funded?

Anything else positive which can help please let us know.

Note: This is a self-moderated topic, off-topic comments will be deleted

Thank you

1. Do you prefer coins should be silver metal or copper? Silver and gold
2. Coins should be 100 coins per set (i.e. 100 of design 1, 100 of   design 2 and 100 of   design3)  or 200  per design so 600 total? 50-100 total
3. Only funded or buyer funded? Both

[cygan]

@howardsentell unfortunately, i've seen this in some of your other posts as well, and i hope you'll take note of it.
when you quote someone, please write your reply under the [/quote] tag and not inside it
otherwise, it's not immediately clear that your reply is in response to the quote in question

[Kryptowerk]

While we wait for Ballet to ship out remaining 2 coin sets in the Three wise monkey series.

We are fortunate to do another collab with them which will have unique designs and never before seen/made pattern (neither by us nor by Ballet and so far from what we see no one in the community has used such designs).

We have few questions to the collectors(and innovation lovers) for this new series:

1. Do you prefer coins should be silver metal or copper?
2. Coins should be 100 coins per set (i.e. 100 of design 1, 100 of   design 2 and 100 of   design3)  or 200  per design so 600 total?
3. Only funded or buyer funded?

Anything else positive which can help please let us know.

Note: This is a self-moderated topic, off-topic comments will be deleted

Thank you

These are some good questions potentially interesting for other makers, too.
If you think about what makes a collectible worth noting, I think most will come to similar conclusions:
- a unique aspect that ideally has some relation to the topic (in this case on the forum it's crypto, rare metals, coins, trust etc.)
- rareness
- art. [now obviously you can always argue what counts as art and what does not. with all the AI slop it's now even harder to find the real stuff. and yes, I believe an artist can take advantage of AI and still produce "real" (whatever that is) art, but it's dangerous territory and I would say most cases have crossed the border to no-art-but-AI-slop territory very quickly /end-of-ramble]

So to answer your question:
1. silver and gilded silver
2. 100 or below sounds great - if you have a massive platform larger quantities are fine (see Satori 1.0, Cas, old Lealana stuff) but usually anything above the 150, 200 mark seems like a quick money-grab and seems misplaced for this small community here
3. buyer assembled (I love loaded crypto collectibles but can count the amount of makers I would trust on probably one hand - so let us print our own private keys and attach the security hologram ourselves)

[Rymaster]

These are some good questions potentially interesting for other makers, too.
If you think about what makes a collectible worth noting, I think most will come to similar conclusions:
- a unique aspect that ideally has some relation to the topic (in this case on the forum it's crypto, rare metals, coins, trust etc.)
- rareness
- art. [now obviously you can always argue what counts as art and what does not. with all the AI slop it's now even harder to find the real stuff. and yes, I believe an artist can take advantage of AI and still produce "real" (whatever that is) art, but it's dangerous territory and I would say most cases have crossed the border to no-art-but-AI-slop territory very quickly /end-of-ramble]

So to answer your question:
1. silver and gilded silver
2. 100 or below sounds great - if you have a massive platform larger quantities are fine (see Satori 1.0, Cas, old Lealana stuff) but usually anything above the 150, 200 mark seems like a quick money-grab and seems misplaced for this small community here
3. buyer assembled (I love loaded crypto collectibles but can count the amount of makers I would trust on probably one hand - so let us print our own private keys and attach the security hologram ourselves)

I agree with you on all counts, except #3. I feel like DIY coins are always lacking for a few reasons. Firstly, the coins just don't feel "completed" leaving the creator unassembled and if you do decide you want to create a prvt key to put under the hologram to assemble it, now the secondary sales of the coin tend to suffer since the new buyer now has to trust a random buyer over what would have been at least the creator making the wallet. Let's be honest, if a coin is buyer funded, rarely if ever, are any of us putting funds on it, so let's at least have the wallet made by the creator instead of a random first buyer. Otherwise, the holograms just end up living off the coin forever and it makes the whole package feel unrefined.


1. Silver & Gilded silver
2. 100 or below
3. Buyer funded or small funded amounts at time of sale (~currently 0.001 BTC or less)

[raritycheck]

Thank you all

[2stout]

These are some good questions potentially interesting for other makers, too.
If you think about what makes a collectible worth noting, I think most will come to similar conclusions:
- a unique aspect that ideally has some relation to the topic (in this case on the forum it's crypto, rare metals, coins, trust etc.)
- rareness
- art. [now obviously you can always argue what counts as art and what does not. with all the AI slop it's now even harder to find the real stuff. and yes, I believe an artist can take advantage of AI and still produce "real" (whatever that is) art, but it's dangerous territory and I would say most cases have crossed the border to no-art-but-AI-slop territory very quickly /end-of-ramble]

So to answer your question:
1. silver and gilded silver
2. 100 or below sounds great - if you have a massive platform larger quantities are fine (see Satori 1.0, Cas, old Lealana stuff) but usually anything above the 150, 200 mark seems like a quick money-grab and seems misplaced for this small community here
3. buyer assembled (I love loaded crypto collectibles but can count the amount of makers I would trust on probably one hand - so let us print our own private keys and attach the security hologram ourselves)

I agree with you on all counts, except #3. I feel like DIY coins are always lacking for a few reasons. Firstly, the coins just don't feel "completed" leaving the creator unassembled and if you do decide you want to create a prvt key to put under the hologram to assemble it, now the secondary sales of the coin tend to suffer since the new buyer now has to trust a random buyer over what would have been at least the creator making the wallet. Let's be honest, if a coin is buyer funded, rarely if ever, are any of us putting funds on it, so let's at least have the wallet made by the creator instead of a random first buyer. Otherwise, the holograms just end up living off the coin forever and it makes the whole package feel unrefined.


1. Silver & Gilded silver
2. 100 or below
3. Buyer funded or small funded amounts at time of sale (~currently 0.001 BTC or less)

This!  Would have given you some merit if I had any to give out.

[SatoshJr]

1- Copper
2- 100
3- Loaded (It is the way)

Cheers

[Steeley]

1. Silver
2. 100 or less
3. With Ballet tech I don't think it matters, but if I were in your shoes there is no way I would sell them Loaded.

[futuremoves]

Silver
100
Loaded with buyer funded option.

[raritycheck]

Thank you all! This helps!

[akeyva]

1. Silver (and Gold)
2. 100 or fewer. If runs sell out very quickly, then consider increasing
    - for multiple metals, a breakdown of 50 copper, 45 silver, 5 gold would be fun.
    - for coins with denominations, consider adjusting satoshi amount by type of metal. ex) Copper 25K sats, Silver 100K sats, Gold 500K sats
3. Ideally an option for either funded or buyer funded. I would do funded if there was only one option.
    - I trust Ballet as a maker, and I think the collab is a great way to leverage that. 
    - I don't like how the QR code on the Ballet coins point to a ballet.com URL. The QR codes on the original Ballet cards just had the btc address which is way better IMO. If you have the ability to negotiate this point with Ballet I would.

[raritycheck]

We listened to all of you. Negotiating the url as well


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