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December 19, 2025, 08:21:23 AM
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It is as usual, the world full of people that will say something, but as they are saying something, another people will be saying the opposite.
That is the essence of speculation which is actually the opposite of what people say about Bitcoin's development.
We have to understand why something like that would happen, because currently many celebrities, actors, artists, entrepreneurs are speculating in the crypto world without considering the things they should learn.

They speculate not on the basis of crypto/Bitcoin knowledge but speculate based on popularity and sensation so that the world knows they have adopted millions of dollars in Bitcoin, we need to realize that it is all for profit only, so that Bitcoin users are interested in investing in the crypto market, it is very natural if what they convey is contrary to the actual results.

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December 19, 2025, 11:27:10 AM
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It is as usual, the world full of people that will say something, but as they are saying something, another people will be saying the opposite.
People with high popularity, such as the former CEO of Binance and other figures, say whatever they want about the market price of a coin, and they do so for fun with the analysts they have created. The results of their analysis are quite useful for traders as market players, but they will not have a significant impact on people who only prioritize long-term purchases.
However, I agree with the fact that every speculation is always inaccurate, regardless of the statements made by individuals, even those with high popularity.

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December 19, 2025, 06:13:43 PM
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People with high popularity, such as the former CEO of Binance and other figures, say whatever they want about the market price of a coin, and they do so for fun with the analysts they have created. The results of their analysis are quite useful for traders as market players, but they will not have a significant impact on people who only prioritize long-term purchases.
However, I agree with the fact that every speculation is always inaccurate, regardless of the statements made by individuals, even those with high popularity.
Depending on predictions from people without doing personal research is wrong. The Bitcoin market has become so big that comments from well-known people like Changpeng Zhaop and others don't have so much influence. Speculations are opinions or theories that might happen or don't. It is not all speculations that are wrong. Some of them happen, and some traders have benefited from them. So your argument that speculations are always wrong might not be accurate.

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December 21, 2025, 07:17:52 AM
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It seems like Bitcoin will continue to fall. The 4-year cycle has already occurred, especially since the price is expected to fall, as they said. It could be true because the price of Bitcoin continues to decline and has reached its peak this year, so the selling price is higher on the exchange. I saw the chart and also the buying and selling on Binance. The price has decreased, and many people are selling Bitcoin.

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December 22, 2025, 11:39:40 AM
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It is as usual, the world full of people that will say something, but as they are saying something, another people will be saying the opposite.

Last week was new people saying that bitcoin 4 year cycle is over, example is CZ the former CEO of Binance. Another example is JPMorgan analyst that said no crypto winter coming. There have been more than 5 people that are well known that I know that have said this, but most of them said it earlier.

But as they are saying it, other people will be saying another thing. Example is this news that I have just read: https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-four-year-cycle-politics-liquidity-10x-research. This is not the first of such news.

Next year will come and we are going to clearly know people that are right. But if bitcoin make it back to $50000 to $60000 before another bull market, that is winter season.

We must trust facts and not opinions. Opinions are great and everyone has one, but we shouldn't make financial decisions based on the opinions of some "expert" or social media guru(even if we are talking about CZ). The "Bitcoin 4 year price cycle" theory might be right or it might be wrong. There's no valid data to prove this theory. The Bitcoin market has matured a lot in the last 10 years, but even mature markets can react to certain events with panic and chaos. I can't consider myself to be a Bitcoin expert, so I can't tell whether the 4 year cycle theory is right or wrong.

 
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December 22, 2025, 01:09:01 PM
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Let the world be confused about what will happen to Bitcoin. We can start or continue our Bitcoin accumulation, no matter what is happens. We don't have to think much about what other people say about Bitcoin but we should focus on what we do.

We will see speculation from many speculators, including those famous people. But we don't have to follow what they say because no one knows what will happen.

We will see what happens to Bitcoin in the next year. Meanwhile, Bitcoin price is back to $90k after struggling below $90k. But the price shows a strong sign to go up unless there is some bad news coming soon.

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December 24, 2025, 04:23:50 AM
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Normally, people will always say what they think about Bitcoin because it is all about speculation. However, most times, whatever people may predict about Bitcoin doesn't really bother me because it won't change what we will see in the end. When people make their own assumptions, it is just to watch and never to be convinced by those assumptions because Bitcoin can’t be predicted; it is just full of surprises. That is why it is important to have an understanding, as this is what will sustain you in the market when people come up with their opinions about the price of Bitcoin. Many people who don’t have a good knowledge of Bitcoin will be misled by speculations.

Sometimes I think these figures are manipulating the market to suit their own whims. This is business, I think. But I fully believe that Bitcoin will always be valuable because new communities and investors will continue to come in and invest by buying Bitcoin. It is true, as you said, that Bitcoin cannot be predicted with certainty, but we must also understand market trends and momentum as the basis for our analysis. When whales decide to move to sell their assets or exchange them for certain altcoins, this will certainly result in a significant price increase. We must be sensitive and read this as a signal to gain profits or at least avoid losses.

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December 27, 2025, 04:50:54 PM
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It has become quite obvious that most of these popular, influential people on social media tweet stories that might not be verified but  would benefit their project on the long run, maybe to force a certain buy order or sell order that would leave them in massive profits in few hours. Most investors do not have much knowledge on market manipulation and they fall victim of this situations without making proper analysis before placing an order, they simply act on what these influential people say online rather than making their own personal research.

To some extent, these people have some influence in the crypto world but it does not give them total control, "we" give them control when we listen to everything they say and only follow their orders and not our intuition. This is why it is advised to gather knowledge first in this crypto space before investing in any asset because cases of "rug pull" could make a novice in the crypto space to doubt the relevance of Bitcoin and other profitable assets because of lack of basic foundational understanding.

What is seen online might turn out to be true on the long run but for now, they are speculations and should not be taken as a financial advise.

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December 27, 2025, 11:20:33 PM
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At a time.i really got weary of all the projections by all of these people who are known names in the crypto space because I could no longer place my hands around who exactly was right and who to believe, well just like OP did said, next year we will know for sure who exactly was correct, what are the parameters for their speculations and also we would know if these were for promotional purposes or just their honest opinion and sentiment about  what the market actually is.

 
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I highly doubt a 50k to 60k fall. That will probably make a lot of investors panic, and we will see a landslide coming in. It's better if it doesn't go that way. Sure, the Ber months punished the sudden rise of Bitcoin after the ETF. It's a hype. It does happen, but so does correction.
Now the trouble is how to recover to $100k. This is where Bitcoin gets slower to rise again, but it is sure and steady. When we trace history, it already happened before. All we have to do is be patient about it. It will be back to a nice value, and what comes next is another hype about Bitcoin that will put it to a new ATH.

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December 28, 2025, 04:54:48 PM
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I highly doubt a 50k to 60k fall. That will probably make a lot of investors panic, and we will see a landslide coming in. It's better if it doesn't go that way. Sure, the Ber months punished the sudden rise of Bitcoin after the ETF. It's a hype. It does happen, but so does correction.
Now the trouble is how to recover to $100k. This is where Bitcoin gets slower to rise again, but it is sure and steady. When we trace history, it already happened before. All we have to do is be patient about it. It will be back to a nice value, and what comes next is another hype about Bitcoin that will put it to a new ATH.
I don't want to go it that way but it's very possible that we see it fall that much.
And even lower than $50k. We've seen on how it fell under $80k last time before it pushed back to $100k.
We're already quite far from $100k although some push could put it back there.
The next year that's coming is likely the winter season as they say.
But I am with you that we have to be patient and we have to see how it will go.

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It seems like Bitcoin will continue to fall. The 4-year cycle has already occurred, especially since the price is expected to fall, as they said. It could be true because the price of Bitcoin continues to decline and has reached its peak this year, so the selling price is higher on the exchange. I saw the chart and also the buying and selling on Binance. The price has decreased, and many people are selling Bitcoin.
Bitcoin is undergoing a correction after a new massive ATH, and we have seen this market cycle in the past. When Bitcoin goes into a correction, many traders get panicked. As a result, more Bitcoin selling pressure increases in the market. There will be uptrends and downtrends in the market, and that is why the market follows its own rules. So, just as there are sellers in the market, there are also buyers in the market, which will result in the market recovering in its own time.

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It is as usual, the world full of people that will say something, but as they are saying something, another people will be saying the opposite.
People with high popularity, such as the former CEO of Binance and other figures, say whatever they want about the market price of a coin, and they do so for fun with the analysts they have created. The results of their analysis are quite useful for traders as market players, but they will not have a significant impact on people who only prioritize long-term purchases.
However, I agree with the fact that every speculation is always inaccurate, regardless of the statements made by individuals, even those with high popularity.
Sometimes they statements may be born out of their years of engagement with the market and knowing the pattern that have been repeated in the past Bitcoin have followed repeated cycle so for sure most speculators will target to use such previous records to forecast the future of Bitcoin market between Bitcoin is an unpredictable asset that regardless of your knowledge about the market you can predict it it accurately.

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December 28, 2025, 06:13:52 PM
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It is as usual, the world full of people that will say something, but as they are saying something, another people will be saying the opposite.

Last week was new people saying that bitcoin 4 year cycle is over, example is CZ the former CEO of Binance. Another example is JPMorgan analyst that said no crypto winter coming. There have been more than 5 people that are well known that I know that have said this, but most of them said it earlier.

But as they are saying it, other people will be saying another thing. Example is this news that I have just read: https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-four-year-cycle-politics-liquidity-10x-research. This is not the first of such news.

Next year will come and we are going to clearly know people that are right. But if bitcoin make it back to $50000 to $60000 before another bull market, that is winter season.
If these people are saying that the Bitcoin four years cycle is over, I think I really have to understand what the meant by the four years cycle is over so I think get a misconception about the market. Does it mean that we are no longer going to experience 4 years of bear market and another 4 years of bull market, because this is a little confusing to comprehend the aspect they are coming from so that traders and investors can be prepared of what is ahead of us and what we should be expecting from the crypto market.
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First of all, there's technically nothing driving the so called 4 year cycles anymore and people who are saying that 4 year cycles are intact must be looking at different numbers because this last "cycle" is completely different from the previous ones.

Previously in every cycle you had a strong FOMO rally. This time there was none.
Last cycles ended with a blow-off top followed by a 50% crash - this time it did not happen
In previous cycles you had a new a first high after the halving, this time it was before the halving
In previous cycles we've faced a 2 year long bull market with a correction leading below

This is normal for cycles to change because miners have less and less influence on prices since there's less and less BTC being mined every year.

Also, there are clear differences in the global economy. For instance, in 2021 bitcoin was going up when US FED was easing, but 2024/5 it was tightening, which is again turning into easing.
Do you know other years when FED begun tightening? 2018 and 2022! Exactly the years when bitcoin bear markets started, but 2026 is going to be a QE year. This is a significant change because there wasn't a bitcoin bear market during QE yet.

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These guys will always say something that protects their interests and already these are big guys in the crypto circle and they could be doing this to manipulate markets in a certain way.. talking of manipulation, what happened to Elon Musk ever since he got tangled up into the Politics his kissed crypto goodbye 👋 and his one figure that really mastered the art of driving markets to whichever direction he wanted, otherwise crypto markets  are a rinse and repeat asset.

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December 28, 2025, 11:58:54 PM
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Well the bottom line is nobody has a crystal ball looking into the future and I would
say those big name 'economists' are preaching primarily to aid their own market base.

because everyone is saying something different and others slight variations on that,
some people are going to be right because the market will react in one way or the
other.

Personally I dont listen to them so I dont necessarily care, the market will do its thing
and there is one thing for certain - the market changes, it cant keep going up or down
indefinitely.
They preach to their own audience. Sometimes they're wrong, sometimes they're right. It's a two way market anyway, so it's easy to comment on the market, but nobody knows where it's going, so it's best to ignore them, no matter what anyone says.
You're right, the market is volatile, and there's no constant rise or fall. We've seen these changes in four-year cycles, and we will continue to see them.

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