I choose peace 🕊️

[Kalchef]

I am from Venezuela and I can understand your situation to some level because we have also dealt with our government seizing and taking over private property and land from us in order to try to build whatever they thought socialism was.

I believe you are very wise on realizing Bitcoin cannot be easily taken away from you if you keep your seed phrase and secret phrase secret, and whatever the government does to your family, your Bitcoin will always belongs to you.

Heads up, take care of yourself and be careful, since I have heard there are very bad things going on in Nigeria and the United States getting involved directly there.

Cheers.

Anyone who don't want united state to get involved is either benefitting from the crime of the rulers or they don't want Donald trump to take over the country's resources.

What I don't understand is why still protect the resources when no citizen of the country is benefitting from it, the rulers cares only about the resources so much that they abandoned their duty and extorting money still from the poor masses.

Donald Trump either having a bad intent in mind or not will still favour Nigeria, trust me, that shit hole needs more than just some fixing, Christian lives are getting wasted all the time.

[GeorgeJohn]

No one is forcing you to be a land owner. It's your decision. Just because a government has the power to take your private property for public use

Government have the right to use any land, but they will be equivalent worth of the land compensation by the government, if the owner of the land have Certificate of occupancy (C of O)

There's nothing wrong with someone investing in land

You're right, the only problem land investment has is to acquire the land from the appropriate place, sometimes people bought from the wrong owner, and after few years the land may be in dispute because it was not bought for the appropriate place

Investing in lands, needs a proper investigation, and a proper documentary, for future and reference purposes..

[MusaMohamed]

You're right, the only problem land investment has is to acquire the land from the appropriate place, sometimes people bought from the wrong owner, and after few years the land may be in dispute because it was not bought for the appropriate place

Investing in lands, needs a proper investigation, and a proper documentary, for future and reference purposes..

It's only one of many difficulties when you invest money in land slots. Even you are not scammed from purchase, you will have more troubles when selling your land slots later and it's certainly not convenient like buying and selling Bitcoin on the market.

With Bitcoin and good trading volume on the market, you can sell and cash out your bitcoin anytime. It's more convenient than many things you must do with land investment and take profit.

[SOKO-DEKE]

Bitcoin is a veey good investment, and I don't think anyone here will argue that. But despite how good bitcoin investment is, it also carries its own risks. So people saying we should not rely on bitcoin investment is not bad, it is a good idea. Putting all eggs in same basket is dangerous, and it is not a safer way for investment. So having different investment is really good.

As some people have said, I also see land as good investment, as far as some get land in better location. The price many people are be investing on land, and seriously, they are making it. And even in Nigeria, if some found deal process and acquired land and get all the necessary document, I don't think it will turn bad story at end. Even government want to develop the land, the government will compensate the owner of the land, and the compensation will be what really worth it.But if we get land without the process, it will definitely turn people drag the land with the owner, and it can end losing the land later. There are people who have bitcoin investment and still doing their land investment and I will also say it is good option.

[GeorgeJohn]

It's only one of many difficulties when you invest money in land slots. Even you are not scammed from purchase, you will have more troubles when selling your land slots later and it's certainly not convenient like buying and selling Bitcoin on the market.

With Bitcoin and good trading volume on the market, you can sell and cash out your bitcoin anytime. It's more convenient than many things you must do with land investment and take profit.

It depends were you got your land, they're some lands in good environments that worth more than 1btc when selling, you can't use such places and compare to bitcoin

At the major places land worth more than 1btc, immediately keep your land for sell, you will see more traffic from the buyers, land is not investment compare to bitcoin investment, it basically determine where the land is situated

Some real estates managements made a lot of money through land and it depends the strategies place the land is been situated,

All business are good and all business are convenient, what matters, is how genuine the business is, we need to know that investment is lucrative is depends on your manage it.

[aylabadia05]

If you legally get your lands in America I think you should be fine. But in my country it's another thing entirely.

It is known that in Nigeria your so called land that you purchased with all documents and deeds of whatever available still doesn't mean that the land is yours if the government want to use the place for the public benefits, the only thing that the right registered of the land and the documents would do is you are entitled for Compensation from the government and also safe you from the schemes of double owners (selling to another person behind your back).

Who am I?

My shortest Answer is 👉 Someone who wants peace and someone who avoids conflicts.

Someone who don't want to be in the shoe of people who drags things with others, that eventually could lead to loss of life, or using bad juju on you so that you won't wake up the next day.


Why did I choose Bitcoin?

My shortest answer is 👉 No one will drag anything with me. True ownership is 101% with Bitcoin.

I can understand that you cannot accept their actions against you. They seem indifferent to what will happen, and I fully understand what you are going through.
The real power lies in the hands of the people, but it is rare for the people to win against the system because they have everything that we do not have.

Investing in land assets is acceptable, but not in areas that could become the center of state administration at any time. Although they will compensate us for our land ownership, if we do not want to sell it, they can force us to do so with the power they have.
Gold and Bitcoin are two assets that I believe are absolutely ours, without anyone claiming them as theirs. I strongly agree that these two types of assets should be prioritized.

[Achalugo BTC]

My condolences for what happened to your family.
Of course, you should evaluate the advice based on your own preferences. What you're experiencing isn't ideal for property investment, as most people believe. In fact, it's like investing in Bitcoin on a centralized exchange where you don't control it. Bitcoin also teaches the importance of having your wealth legitimate and absolute, both technically and legally.

Bitcoin investment is just the best thing for me but its also important to spread out your investment in many ways, which it can help you to become financially stable enough to handle or sort out your any financial problems.
Though, Bitcoin investment has its own challenges likewise every other business but what really matter is how determined and patience they can be, because they are also the key to every successful investor, which they can also use to navigate through the challenges that comes their way.

[m2017]

While reading through this forum's topics and comments. Some members are advising people not to rely on Bitcoin only, that lands are good invest options too. I look at myself and doubt if I really want to get some money and start buying lands. Before you judge me I want you to either just read this and avoid to reply if you are not in Nigeria because this is more concerning my country.

Land is a limited resource, the demand for which grows as the planet's population increases. And if this resource is insufficient for everyone, this will inevitably lead to increased demand.

If you legally get your lands in America I think you should be fine. But in my country it's another thing entirely.

When it comes to land, it's always important to consider the nuances, as land in different parts of the planet will be valued differently.

It is known that in Nigeria your so called land that you purchased with all documents and deeds of whatever available still doesn't mean that the land is yours if the government want to use the place for the public benefits, the only thing that the right registered of the land and the documents would do is you are entitled for Compensation from the government and also safe you from the schemes of double owners (selling to another person behind your back).

My family members have lost their lands this way and my uncle lost his life on a land dispute too, don't even try to lecture me about it all, everything belongs to the government here.

You can only consider something to be "owned" if you can physically and legally "defend" it.

Now imagine someone telling me to sell my Bitcoin when I am in profits and start buying lands here and there? It's a good investment isn't it? But I would rather have Gold and Bitcoin, just like I answered this person, why? Because they are truly mine and again there will never be cases on them or someone trying to kill me for what I have, because no one knows I have them anyway.

But those who suffered from the robbery of bitcoin will not agree with you regarding the highlighted statement.

I am going to have a land and still build a house on it, but I choose to remain rich in Gold and Bitcoin rather than Lands, so that in future even if my land is taken from me legally I can find somewhere else and build another instantly.

Undoubtedly, bitcoin allows to have “financial flexibility” that allows you to move to almost any point in the world and, if necessary, start everything from scratch (housing, property, etc.).

Who am I?

My shortest Answer is 👉 Someone who wants peace and someone who avoids conflicts.

If you want peace, prepare for war. I don't think "peace" is possible in the world, because even escaping one conflict can lead to another. Bitcoin is not a 100% "cure" for conflict.

Someone who don't want to be in the shoe of people who drags things with others, that eventually could lead to loss of life, or using bad juju on you so that you won't wake up the next day.

Now should be wary of a different kind of evil magic when wake up the next day with empty wallets.

Why did I choose Bitcoin?

My shortest answer is 👉 No one will drag anything with me. True ownership is 101% with Bitcoin.

It's funny, considering that it's impossible to "own" bitcoin in the usual sense, since only the right of ownership of this asset is used.

[Mame89]

I can understand that you cannot accept their actions against you. They seem indifferent to what will happen, and I fully understand what you are going through.
The real power lies in the hands of the people, but it is rare for the people to win against the system because they have everything that we do not have.

Investing in land assets is acceptable, but not in areas that could become the center of state administration at any time. Although they will compensate us for our land ownership, if we do not want to sell it, they can force us to do so with the power they have.
Gold and Bitcoin are two assets that I believe are absolutely ours, without anyone claiming them as theirs. I strongly agree that these two types of assets should be prioritized.

And that's also why the largest landowners are usually those with power or influence giving them power when the land becomes a central administrative area. I don't know about other countries, but in my country this often happens where only those in positions of power or with connections to the government control land.

However, those without power investing in land can sometimes be cumbersome in terms of documentation and as you said, when the government wants to make the area an administrative center or strategic project they will force us to sell. Buying land is fine, but you must be very careful when buying it avoid buying disputed land as that will be a hassle. This is very different from investing in Bitcoin and gold. No one can seize our assets unless we are in a legal situation that requires the state to confiscate them. Essentially, all assets have their own risks and advantages so you need to be discerning when deciding which assets to invest in.

[aylabadia05]

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And that's also why the largest landowners are usually those with power or influence giving them power when the land becomes a central administrative area. I don't know about other countries, but in my country this often happens where only those in positions of power or with connections to the government control land.

You come from the same country as me, and I can say that in the country where we currently reside, it may be different from the case experienced by OP, which made him feel very regretful about what he had experienced.
In our country, we have also experienced how this party had arguments with landowners, although I have never seen firsthand in my area an incident that led to a clash with government forces.

Going into the details of this is too complicated, but the main point is that if you want to invest in land, you have to consider many things, one of which is that it will not become a dispute with the government. They will win in terms of defense because their laws are made as a legitimate administration.

[melinoe]

My condolences for what happened to your family.
Of course, you should evaluate the advice based on your own preferences. What you're experiencing isn't ideal for property investment, as most people believe. In fact, it's like investing in Bitcoin on a centralized exchange where you don't control it. Bitcoin also teaches the importance of having your wealth legitimate and absolute, both technically and legally.

Bitcoin investment is just the best thing for me but its also important to spread out your investment in many ways, which it can help you to become financially stable enough to handle or sort out your any financial problems.
Though, Bitcoin investment has its own challenges likewise every other business but what really matter is how determined and patience they can be, because they are also the key to every successful investor, which they can also use to navigate through the challenges that comes their way.

This process entirely depends on how much you know, do you understand everything properly, and why you do it and choose BTC.

Everything is clear when there is knowledge, not fear

[Satofan44]

I am from Venezuela and I can understand your situation to some level because we have also dealt with our government seizing and taking over private property and land from us in order to try to build whatever they thought socialism was.

This can actually happen anywhere, people who believe otherwise are delusional statistics or with the modern speak you would refer them to the NPC. It can even happen in countries that have the strongest private property rights such as the US. The difference lies only in the magnitude of efforts and events that need to occur for this to start happening. In countries with weak property rights it could even be trivial, some dictator could just decide he wants your property and it is over. In the US a lot of things would need to happen in a negative way for this to happen, but it is not possible. People fail to understand that rights that are derived or given by someone can be taken away by that someone, this is a permanent truth.

I believe you are very wise on realizing Bitcoin cannot be easily taken away from you if you keep your seed phrase and secret phrase secret, and whatever the government does to your family, your Bitcoin will always belongs to you.

That is correct if explained in a nuanced way, but when written in a superficial way it is incorrect and many people will do things wrong. Bitcoin can absolutely be taken away from you, don't make this confusion. Bitcoin can not be seized on the protocol level, but what happens on the wallet-level has nothing to do with protocol assurances. To ensure that your Bitcoin has a very low chance of being seized you have to do the following:

1. Buy it in an anonymous or pseudo-anonymous way, without using your identity.
2. Make sure that nobody knows that you actually posses this Bitcoin.
3. Secure it in a wallet that is adequately safe for a variety of attacks, online and offline.
4. Make sure that nobody can find neither the wallet or backups that contain Bitcoin.

Points could be expanded into more detail, but overall this is essential. If I know that you own a lot of Bitcoin, of course I can take it away from you! As a bad actor, I can beat it out of you or beat your family members until you give it up. However, if nobody knows that you posses a significant amount of Bitcoin then you are much safer. People don't go violently robbing random other people and making absurd claims such as "I know you have millions in Bitcoin, give it up!".  A lot of people fail in either point 1 or 2 which are the foundation, and because of that both the government and private people can take away your Bitcoin under the right circumstances.

[Floxynice]

Concerning land issues, it's advisable to always chart any land before buying it so as to find out if it's a land in government space or in dispute. Then get it registered and the necessary documents obtained. If anything happens, you get compensated as you rightly admitted. To buy a land without any documentations is high risk and should be discouraged.

I understand op's pain very well because my family has gone through similar frustration. People invest in land because they believe land appreciates over time. Unfortunately, once the government gets involved, they will never compensate you with the value the land is worth. The worst case is that you have no choice than to surrender your land to the government because according to them, the decision to takeover that land is of national interest. This still makes investment in land risky.

The major concern here is actual ownership. In the case of land, the government is the real owner of the land. Land investors are only caretakers of the land. Bitcoin investors could face thesame fate like land owners, even worse fate if the bitcoin investors do not understand the concept of proper self custody. Trusting exchanges and third parties without proper education will still expose you to thesame risk.

[Oshio-man]

I don't know the state you came from in Nigeria, you will purchase a land from someone or government with genuine documents and later government want to collect the land from you or make use of the land without your approval, I don't think such thing can happen in Nigeria unless you just want to use this thread as a story to drown users attention because your documents confirmed you as the rightful owner of the property, never allow anyone to deceive you that you can use only bitcoin investment to turn to a wealthy man because bitcoin is a decentralized asset that is not control by the government or individual, just make sure you invest what you can be comfortable to lose and still have peace of mind in bitcoin investment.

[ZAINmalik75]

I don't know the state you came from in Nigeria, you will purchase a land from someone or government with genuine documents and later government want to collect the land from you or make use of the land without your approval, I don't think such thing can happen in Nigeria unless you just want to use this thread as a story to drown users attention because your documents confirmed you as the rightful owner of the property, never allow anyone to deceive you that you can use only bitcoin investment to turn to a wealthy man because bitcoin is a decentralized asset that is not control by the government or individual, just make sure you invest what you can be comfortable to lose and still have peace of mind in bitcoin investment.

I don't think he is lying because even though I'm not from Nigeria, I know that land mafias exist everywhere, and even the government can do such things as grabbing lands from their owners and either build government offices and places, or simply occupy and reserve the land for something that has to do with the government. When a rich person does it to the poor, they can think of going against them in the court and filing a report or something, but imagine if it's done by the government itself, what would someone do in that case?

Your documents could be valid, but as I said, if the government decides to take your place, there is nothing you can do. If the government is not corrupt, and if they need the land for something, they will surely pay the owner enough money for the land and then take it, but corrupt government officials barely care about their citizen, and they won't think it's necessary for them to pay the owner to take the land, and they will simply take it and either give them a plot at an unknown place, or simply tell them to get a plot somewhere else as this place now belongs to them.

[Maslate]

You can still be highly profitable and financially stable even without land accumulation, as long as you consistently invest on those assets that are giving you sustainable profits. So just invest where you are comfortable and suitable to invest, and invest where your heart and peace is, because that's what matters the most so you can be genuinely happy with the outcome of your investments in the future.

Land is a good and profitable asset, but with your story being shared, it just proves that land accumulation isn't for everyone, but still buy a land to build your own peaceful home.

[Achalugo BTC]

This process entirely depends on how much you know, do you understand everything properly, and why you do it and choose BTC.

Everything is clear when there is knowledge, not fear

Having knowledge of what you want to do, is very profitable and resourceful because understanding is the key to every successful investor, which they can make use of the knowledge to navigate every ups and downs and which will also be of aid to make an informed decision that will benefit them.
Which is why, every information that people had should be verified before acting or taking decision on them because without proper information or considerations can lead one astray by making or pushing them to make mistakes that are not helpful.

[HustleZ]

I choose to remain rich in Gold and Bitcoin rather than Lands, so that in future even if my land is taken from me legally I can find somewhere else and build another instantly.

Real Estate has been a thriving industry since Millennia but Nowadays it isn't working as good as it did as an asset. The reason you shared is also a solid reason, There are a lot of headaches that come with land. One of which I think is that It's demand has Decreased, in my country we have a piece of Land we Bought a few years ago and when today we want to sell it, it isn't selling. People don't have money to buy it. Everyone has bought some land and invested their money but now when everyone wants to sell, there isn't anyone to buy. Because of The inflation, and economic crisis in our country it has become hard to make something out of real estate. But if We had invested in Bitcoin a few years ago then Today or whenever we wanted we could've sold it and we wouldn't have to keep check of how the economy is or does the people want to buy it Etc etc.