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[TheCoin]

Decision tree should look like this:
A: want PND to survive
    - bdanyo dumping - great, cheap PND, buy up, rebuild, profit
    - bdanyo buying PND - great, don't be that dumbass dumping into his buy
       (Take the risk that this is like any other speculation, big loss or big gain)

B: do not want to continue on with PND
    - sell into 1 sat while you still can (and bdanyo could be buying yours, or MaNI)
      (Exit the market and capitulate, move on.  Don't look back because you have no stake in this game)
      (You should probably forget about crypto, especially any altcoins forever)
    - ignore everything that's going on, don't add anymore and hold on to whatever you have
      (Come back 10 years from now - PND will be nothing, a lot, or anything inbetween)


Note to MaNI: there is only 1 asset in any crypto, it is faith.  Like my analysis above whatever Bdanyo is doing does not matter.  People are given the same opportunity to buy, or sell, at any given time.  For PND to succeed especially at the current price is for the community on aggregate to:
    - buy more than any whale (or Bdanyo)
    - develope the coin

If Bdanyo is really buying up at 1 sat, he is like a "whale" supporting the coin and volume, we should thank him for doing this when other people aren't doing it, and he should gain in the future rightfully for supporting and taking the risk.

If Bdanyo is dumping, he is exiting at a loss (the market cap is not even a good fraction of his regular work pay, its too petty) - community should take this opportunity and take over his "billion" coin at 1 sat


      

[sonihr]

Note to MaNI: there is only 1 asset in any crypto, it is faith.  Like my analysis above whatever Bdanyo is doing does not matter.

If Bdanyo is dumping, he is exiting at a loss (the market cap is not even a good fraction of his regular work pay, its too petty) - community should take this opportunity and take over his "billion" coin at 1 sat

Maybe you should add amdoge total silence in your analysis? I mean someone control the main website and it is not the community...

[revealed]

Decision tree should look like this:
A: want PND to survive
    - bdanyo dumping - great, cheap PND, buy up, rebuild, profit
    - bdanyo buying PND - great, don't be that dumbass dumping into his buy
       (Take the risk that this is like any other speculation, big loss or big gain)

B: do not want to continue on with PND
    - sell into 1 sat while you still can (and bdanyo could be buying yours, or MaNI)
      (Exit the market and capitulate, move on.  Don't look back because you have no stake in this game)
      (You should probably forget about crypto, especially any altcoins forever)
    - ignore everything that's going on, don't add anymore and hold on to whatever you have
      (Come back 10 years from now - PND will be nothing, a lot, or anything inbetween)


Note to MaNI: there is only 1 asset in any crypto, it is faith.  Like my analysis above whatever Bdanyo is doing does not matter.  People are given the same opportunity to buy, or sell, at any given time.  For PND to succeed especially at the current price is for the community on aggregate to:
    - buy more than any whale (or Bdanyo)
    - develope the coin

If Bdanyo is really buying up at 1 sat, he is like a "whale" supporting the coin and volume, we should thank him for doing this when other people aren't doing it, and he should gain in the future rightfully for supporting and taking the risk.

If Bdanyo is dumping, he is exiting at a loss (the market cap is not even a good fraction of his regular work pay, its too petty) - community should take this opportunity and take over his "billion" coin at 1 sat
     

I like your thinking. 

[Tears on Dope]

hmmmm should i buy more or stay as is i have 50 mil

[rghmodz]

hmmmm should i buy more or stay as is i have 50 mil

Buy me some baby <3 I will love you forever.

[mtrycz]

OR

we as a community can just fork, excluding the wallet MaNI has pointed to. That simple.

That's why it's open source.


as of this post the blocknumber is 606163

[cadexn]

OR

we as a community can just fork, excluding the wallet MaNI has pointed to. That simple.

That's why it's open source.

citizens REVOLT!

[MaNI]

OR

we as a community can just fork, excluding the wallet MaNI has pointed to. That simple.

That's why it's open source.

A basic list of infastructure that amDOGE controls and you should consider should anyone decide to go this route at some point.
I may have missed some things.
Some are easy to solve, others not so much.

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[Erkallys]

Why everyone says that PND is dead ?

[BanzaiBTC]

Alright... after reading the last page.. I have one thing to say...


Fork and exclude Bdanyos and amdoges addresses. We we're the so called wolong anti scam coin.. and it seems weve been had all along If all is true ( I know its based on speculation) we should not let these people have it their way. This is not the way a developer treats a loyal community!

In the worst case we can always make a new coin and perfrom a coinswap

[mtrycz]

OR

we as a community can just fork, excluding the wallet MaNI has pointed to. That simple.

That's why it's open source.

A basic list of infastructure that amDOGE controls and you should consider should anyone decide to go this route at some point.
I may have missed some things.
Some are easy to solve, others not so much.

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Obviously, a rebrand is in order.

[BanzaiBTC]

hmmmm....



Name:   bdanyo
Posts:   363
Activity:   322
Position:   Sr. Member
Date Registered:   February 06, 2014, 12:04:21 PM
Last Active:   Today at 02:10:31 PM

[LTListener]

OR

we as a community can just fork, excluding the wallet MaNI has pointed to. That simple.

That's why it's open source.

A basic list of infastructure that amDOGE controls and you should consider should anyone decide to go this route at some point.
I may have missed some things.
Some are easy to solve, others not so much.

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Obviously, a rebrand is in order.

I think we should wait for amDoge, the devs that quit were public about it. But I'm not surprised some have said fuck it and emptied their adresses and put everything on BITTREX to sell. Just look at those sellwalls piling up, it is most likely the final nail in the coffin. If an old head from our community really wants to take this over and fork it, I really think we should have a listen to what amDoge has to say.

Also I find it weird that when everything turns to shit starts shouting ''scam! scam!'' newsflash, you are in the crypto world. There are NO guarantees and you should all know this, people jump ship easily when the price falters. The only thing I am sad about was the poor management of the PND community chest, back when we were at a 2 million market cap I repeatedly said that we should use it for either advertisement or hiring more devs. This was disregarded.  

Anyways, I was there for the start of PND, I'm not going to put up a sell order because it doesn't make sense to sell at 1 sat even though my holdings are quite significant, I still suggest you to do the same. If an old head from our community is serious about forking PND into something new, please reach out to amDoge first. I am sure amDoge will give a clear answer, amDoge has not done any PR since the start of PND, by that I mean amDoge has been honest and up front, not giving false hope.

That's my 2 cents.

[SellPNDforDOGE]

OR

we as a community can just fork, excluding the wallet MaNI has pointed to. That simple.

That's why it's open source.

A basic list of infastructure that amDOGE controls and you should consider should anyone decide to go this route at some point.
I may have missed some things.
Some are easy to solve, others not so much.

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Obviously, a rebrand is in order.

I think we should wait for amDoge, the devs that quit were public about it. But I'm not surprised some have said fuck it and emptied their adresses and put everything on BITTREX to sell. Just look at those sellwalls piling up, it is most likely the final nail in the coffin. If an old head from our community really wants to take this over and fork it, I really think we should have a listen to what amDoge has to say.

Also I find it weird that when everything turns to shit starts shouting ''scam! scam!'' newsflash, you are in the crypto world. There are NO guarantees and you should all know this, people jump ship easily when the price falters. The only thing I am sad about was the poor management of the PND community chest, back when we were at a 2 million market cap I repeatedly said that we should use it for either advertisement or hiring more devs. This was disregarded.  

Anyways, I was there for the start of PND, I'm not going to put up a sell order because it doesn't make sense to sell at 1 sat even though my holdings are quite significant, I still suggest you to do the same. If an old head from our community is serious about forking PND into something new, please reach out to amDoge first. I am sure amDoge will give a clear answer, amDoge has not done any PR since the start of PND, by that I mean amDoge has been honest and up front, not giving false hope.

That's my 2 cents.

I really appreciate everyone coming to amDoge defense, she is the real victim here.

[RTRC]

It's rather sad this is where PND ended up. Had a lot of things really going for it. Makes me a bit more weary of altcoins in general now. That even some of the most promising coins with great devs can end up like this. Glad I dumped months ago.

[LTListener]

Looks like someone just bought up that 1 sat PND sell wall guys

[SellPNDforDOGE]

Looks like someone just bought up that 1 sat PND sell wall guys

Thank goodness for those asian investors who don't know what's going on. Buy at 1 sat and sell at 2 sat.

[LTListener]

More buys at 1 sat, 2 sat sell wall has shrunken by 14btc

[revealed]

I tend to think this as the natural evolution of the coin.

One guy in the dev team had too many coins and he sold most of them, may be he is broke and is in need of some money.

I agree that the communication could be better, but thats again a personal attribute which varies from individual to individual.

The coins he sold was actually mined by him and is not premine or any other schemes like that.
So in my opinion he is entitled to do whatever he wants with his coins.
On a positive note, this has caused the liquidation of the coin to multiple hands from his huge stash.

I really liked the pnd community and the wallet, and I believe its time for someone else to take this coin forward.
If we all start crying scam scam , when some big holders start selling, cryptocurrencies will not have any future.

I would like to thank all the devs for their hard work in getting the wallet where it is today.
You guys have done an awesome job!!!

Devs will come and go, whales will buy and sell, but the coins should survive if the community is behind it.
If the community cant absorb the challenges posed by the coin, then its the inability of the community which causes the death of it.

Expect several iteration of these dumpings, before the coin gets properly distributed and stabilised.
Cryptocurrecies are still in its infancy and is not for the weak hearted to get in now, if you cant last the ride.

[VultureFund]

Hey Pandalovers be calmed guys!

Forget about actual panic state. Let's look at numbers. Numbers don't lie: During last month more than 8 Bn PND had been dumped. Considering a total supply of 32 Bn that means 25% of the total has been sold with exit in the market. Believe me, not many cryptocoins can say that. For most of them, a 10% dump means the death.

Don't be afraid or panic, if the dev wants to exit at a ridicoulous price, he's free to do it. This coin is a big thing and cannot die, what's just happens is that a big holder is in a hurry. Money, as energy, don't get destroyed, just change of hands. And PND is quickly changing of hands thanks to this traitor dev. PND is still a valuable coin and smart investors will buy and hold it until fair prices come. Trust in me, I'm one of them and PND has given me the best opportunity of this 2015