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rickgejr
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December 29, 2016, 02:12:14 AM |
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@CryptoRambler
Go to the Zcash website.
Click "Buzz" in upper menu bar.
Read article from The Economist.
10% Earmark for founders.
I'm not here to do your homework.
Ask your mother.
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December 29, 2016, 02:22:19 AM Last edit: December 29, 2016, 09:20:35 AM by CryptoRambler |
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@CryptoRambler
Go to the Zcash website.
Click "Buzz" in upper menu bar.
Read article from The Economist.
10% Earmark for founders.
I'm not here to do your homework.
Ask your mother.
Evidently you are not here to do anyone's homework, as you do not know the difference between a premine and an ongoing development tax included on mined coins.
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GAKHcoin
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December 29, 2016, 02:44:43 AM |
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Now there is a problem in the dwarf pool with found blocks. who are aware of what is going on and whether this failure for a long time ??
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rickgejr
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December 29, 2016, 02:46:30 AM |
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Really?
If I withhold 10% of all coins you mine, that's a premine. Okay...a post mine. Whoops.
Call it a tax, withholding, or a fee. Same difference.
And given that information, plus the lack of privacy of Zcash, I choose not to buy or mine ZEC.
Why not open a fresh mine, given the tools like Monero and get all of my XMR?
The incentive to use/mine ZEC is dulled by its development tax. It's like an impact fee. Why build in a county with high impact fees, if two miles away there are lower impact fees? Cheaper lots with a better water, better views, and lower taxes?
The ZEC developers might want to earn money based upon the product itself, the machine that makes ZEC -- not rake in the proceeds from the miners. They (the miners) will just chafe.
In the end, we all choose.
And that's the point.
I choose not to pay the Zcash tax, but to enrich the Monero Dev's instead.
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visdude
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December 29, 2016, 03:54:19 AM |
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Dudes, the title of this thread is very specific and not meant for your personal cat fights. Get a motel room or something...or go find yourselves a boxing or an MMA gym and satisfy your macho-ness in the ring or octagon. I dont really care but please, don't derail this thread with your drama which nobody cares about. However, people do care about useful info on XMR which this thread is meant for.
To moderator: please clean out these garbage posts.
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ACAB
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December 29, 2016, 08:06:12 AM |
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Monero is trading on Bitfinex now.
Is coinbase next? Probably not if IRS bends them over That wont happen. That john doe warrent is as good as shit. Its going to get squashed.
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December 29, 2016, 10:34:48 AM |
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Dudes, the title of this thread is very specific and not meant for your personal cat fights. Get a motel room or something...or go find yourselves a boxing or an MMA gym and satisfy your macho-ness in the ring or octagon. I dont really care but please, don't derail this thread with your drama which nobody cares about. However, people do care about useful info on XMR which this thread is meant for.
To moderator: please clean out these garbage posts.
Dude... Since ZEC is a competitor to Monero, discussion about it is pretty relevant here. Monero does not exist in a vacuum. Your post does not lend to the discussion at all.
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December 29, 2016, 11:17:37 AM |
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More like, people that really consider ZEC a real, discuss-worthy competitor have a vacuum in their brain.
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rickgejr
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December 29, 2016, 01:27:14 PM |
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More like, people that really consider ZEC a real, discuss-worthy competitor have a vacuum in their brain.
Disagree. If you allow a poster to go unchallenged, you lose by default. If ZEC eats Monero's lunch and I don't think it will, we will be eating crow.
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pehoko
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December 29, 2016, 01:30:33 PM |
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ZEC is another semi dead currency just after start.
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December 29, 2016, 01:36:38 PM |
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Monero is time tested and will keep dominating the anonymous market. There were many coins which appeared and disappeared after some period. Just see how strong and resistant to current pump. It is kicking back timely that is by itself is showing the true strength of the XMR.
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December 29, 2016, 02:19:41 PM |
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IMO XMR will be the best anon coin and will last for many years, if zcash has been mined 13 million supply like monero, te price will definitely 0.01-0.02 like monero, they are tough to keep 0.05 right now, and next dump will crash the price to 0.01, monero is the best anon tech coin
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December 29, 2016, 03:22:03 PM |
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I took the liberty of compiling an up2date list of monero pools. If I forgot any pool or information is wrong, please feel free to contact me  moneropools.com
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supportXMR.com :: EU(DE) based Monero pool :: 0.6% fee
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December 29, 2016, 04:42:01 PM |
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I took the liberty of compiling an up2date list of monero pools. If I forgot any pool or information is wrong, please feel free to contact me  moneropools.com Good job, I'll add a link to this list on my website.
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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
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December 29, 2016, 04:52:36 PM |
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I took the liberty of compiling an up2date list of monero pools. If I forgot any pool or information is wrong, please feel free to contact me  moneropools.com Very nice, I would put a "*" by Dwarfpool and note the owner has scammed the community in the past.
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“Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing.”
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December 29, 2016, 06:13:43 PM |
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The one missing pool (in this list - moneropools.com) is Minergate...
About dwarfpool - it is very unreliable (last evidence is from today - wrong stats, down for some time, at the end - half of coins are missing, at least mine). BUT, there is a big BUT - this is the only Monero pool that offers 2 very important, very simple (and yet, suprisingly for me, very hard to find) features: workername (well only digits, but still something) and worker monitoring (incl. mail notifications)... Now I am trying Minergate, but it is very difficult for me to get used to less information and less ability to control my rigs (and thus be sure that they work 24/7). I don't even see some estimation for my 24h earnings - WTF, is this real?!?! Guys, pool owners, please - this is 2017, not 2012-2014!!!
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December 29, 2016, 07:23:58 PM |
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Well, I didn't know this - thanks for the info. I guess I will be looking for another pool now... Unlucky me...
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December 29, 2016, 10:42:32 PM Last edit: December 29, 2016, 11:06:51 PM by visdude |
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Pool mining would really be a nice and convenient feature in GUI. However, I do agree with xmr-eric's comment on there: Personally, I don't like this feature, and feel we shouldn't include it. Pool mining is the one page in the wallet where we're suddenly relying on a third party. What qualifies a pool to be added to this list? Certainly cryptmonero.com isn't included since this pool is tied to Reddit-reported malware mining. So there is already a distinction between good and bad pools, and suddenly our devs are tasked with making that distinction. Suddenly our work begins to grow exponentially, especially if XMR really takes off and a hundred new pools appear and have to be evaluated. Who does the evaluating and what is the criteria?
Suddenly pool operators have an incentive to get in good graces with XMR devs? Already we can see MoneroWorld (where I personally mine, so I love it there) is at the top of the list?
What if one of the listed pools gets hacked, malware, or leaks private data? Are we partly responsible / could be sued? We have to wait for a whole release before we can change the code away from an adversarial pool?
This is not decentralized, and thus sort of goes against the spirit of The Monero Project.
I'm a big fan of adding a solo smart miner to the wallet. Not a fan of this. Indeed, The Monero Project should not get itself mired in pool or market politics. Besides, there are already a multitude of pool mining guides out there. A solo mining feature in GUI is totally fine as it is at the core of the decentralized nature of Monero and most if not all of the other cryptocurrencies. Besides, who doesn't want to participate in a lottery anyway and made easy at that?
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