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April 07, 2016, 03:28:14 AM
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In my opinion Azure is a dubious bet. On the one hand, yes there is a chance that companies, perhaps MS wants to work with NEM and use the platform as a template to build applications on top of it, on the other hand you risk companies (MS?) to "steal" your shit and create their own platform, which means joining Azure would mean fuelling the competition and ultimately stimulating your own demise...

Good tl;dr of the problem of Azure now we faced with.
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April 07, 2016, 07:42:45 AM
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What nice volume is that at poloniex 8 btc

Go xem go

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April 07, 2016, 07:45:37 AM
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What nice volume is that at poloniex 8 btc

Go xem go



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April 07, 2016, 07:47:24 AM
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What nice volume is that at poloniex 8 btc

Go xem go



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April 07, 2016, 08:22:02 AM
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question guys. does the amount of XEM you have in your wallet have any effect on the amount you will be able to harvest? like if you have more XEM, do you get more harvested proportional to what you already hold? someone please educate me. thanks.

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April 07, 2016, 08:28:38 AM
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Why even bother cooperating with Microsoft?
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People tend to be shortsighted, all they see is short term profit. Not long term benefits.

We already won, the coin is already successful. Now just wait for mass adoption.


Your being sarcastic, right?
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April 07, 2016, 09:44:36 AM
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@ Jabo38: Did you receive an answer from Microsoft?

I think that every kind of public relation is good for NEM. Even if we are using Azure to attract more people. In this case, all those people can try every coin listed on Azure. And then they are realizing that there is NEM - in regard to the rest of all shitcoins listed on it, NEM could be the best the've ever seen and tried.

I guess in that case - they simply choose NEM for further proceedings... and all of this could just be a positive result of using Microsoft Azure.

Think about it!
...just my 2 Xems..


(P.S.: I don't like MS Azure but I see the chances behind it for our purposes)

3 emails and no response.  Makoto was able to meet with a representative from Microsoft directly so I'll ask him more about that.

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April 07, 2016, 09:50:42 AM
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@ Jabo38: Did you receive an answer from Microsoft?


Wasn´t there two Lawyers who should be conferenced with to find out what this Contract actually says?

A professional lawyer has written us back. It is good that we took a moment to hesitate.

He interprets the agreement with a wide scope that throws the burden on the submitter on any IP owned by third parties which is used when the submitter allows the submission to be applied by Microsoft.

This doesn't mean we can't be on the store, but that we should be careful when applying.

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April 07, 2016, 09:52:37 AM
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@ Jabo38: Did you receive an answer from Microsoft?

I think that every kind of public relation is good for NEM. Even if we are using Azure to attract more people. In this case, all those people can try every coin listed on Azure. And then they are realizing that there is NEM - in regard to the rest of all shitcoins listed on it, NEM could be the best the've ever seen and tried.

I guess in that case - they simply choose NEM for further proceedings... and all of this could just be a positive result of using Microsoft Azure.

Think about it!
...just my 2 Xems..


(P.S.: I don't like MS Azure but I see the chances behind it for our purposes)

3 emails and no response.  Makoto was able to meet with a representative from Microsoft directly so I'll ask him more about that.

Azure's hidden intention behind the ambiguity seems to be getting clear as untrustable.
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April 07, 2016, 09:54:50 AM
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Why even bother cooperating with Microsoft?
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People tend to be shortsighted, all they see is short term profit. Not long term benefits.

We already won, the coin is already successful. Now just wait for mass adoption.


Your being sarcastic, right?

We have soooo many things we need to do.  Nobody should be sitting back.

Up next is releasing mobile apps, new light wallet release, Apostille, and Supernodes start.  

But what we really need is some big deals.  IBM, R3, and Ethereum all have a lot more resources, so we need all the help we can get.  

Please take a minute to fill this out.  Many people actually have some little thing they can contribute to help.  https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1RWdE187ngIsRKoHo5ZQ6LPs0LNv8o65fIpATLx2gXgY/

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April 07, 2016, 10:17:43 AM
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question guys. does the amount of XEM you have in your wallet have any effect on the amount you will be able to harvest? like if you have more XEM, do you get more harvested proportional to what you already hold? someone please educate me. thanks.

Yes it does. It is one factor - a big one - when calculating the importance of an account.

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April 07, 2016, 10:32:02 AM
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question guys. does the amount of XEM you have in your wallet have any effect on the amount you will be able to harvest? like if you have more XEM, do you get more harvested proportional to what you already hold? someone please educate me. thanks.

Yes it does. It is one factor - a big one - when calculating the importance of an account.

thanks for the reply. can you please give me a link to the exact mathematical formula for computing this? thanks again

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April 07, 2016, 10:49:10 AM
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question guys. does the amount of XEM you have in your wallet have any effect on the amount you will be able to harvest? like if you have more XEM, do you get more harvested proportional to what you already hold? someone please educate me. thanks.

Yes it does. It is one factor - a big one - when calculating the importance of an account.

thanks for the reply. can you please give me a link to the exact mathematical formula for computing this? thanks again

It's in the very first post....
http://nem.io/NEM_techRef.pdf (chapter 7, (edit) or the thing that you're probably are interested in is 7.5)

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Why even bother cooperating with Microsoft?
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People tend to be shortsighted, all they see is short term profit. Not long term benefits.

We already won, the coin is already successful. Now just wait for mass adoption.


Your being sarcastic, right?

We have soooo many things we need to do.  Nobody should be sitting back.

Up next is releasing mobile apps, new light wallet release, Apostille, and Supernodes start.  

But what we really need is some big deals.  IBM, R3, and Ethereum all have a lot more resources, so we need all the help we can get.  

Please take a minute to fill this out.  Many people actually have some little thing they can contribute to help.  https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1RWdE187ngIsRKoHo5ZQ6LPs0LNv8o65fIpATLx2gXgY/


Filled out the form. Glad to help
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April 07, 2016, 11:35:40 AM
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But what we really need is some big deals.  IBM, R3, and Ethereum all have a lot more resources, so we need all the help we can get.  


I absolutly agree with you for this point. But we should not give up rights for cooperating with such big companies like Microsoft and IBM. I saw that there was a poll on Qora, because getting on the Azure platform restricts the future use of the open source code. This must be a no-go for every coin project.

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Why even bother cooperating with Microsoft?
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People tend to be shortsighted, all they see is short term profit. Not long term benefits.

We already won, the coin is already successful. Now just wait for mass adoption.


Your being sarcastic, right?

We have soooo many things we need to do.  Nobody should be sitting back.

Up next is releasing mobile apps, new light wallet release, Apostille, and Supernodes start.  

But what we really need is some big deals.  IBM, R3, and Ethereum all have a lot more resources, so we need all the help we can get.  

Please take a minute to fill this out.  Many people actually have some little thing they can contribute to help.  https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1RWdE187ngIsRKoHo5ZQ6LPs0LNv8o65fIpATLx2gXgY/


The fact that NEM has value and not just left dead months ago proves that it is succesful, at the crypto world level. That's all I was saying.
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April 07, 2016, 04:46:02 PM
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Why even bother cooperating with Microsoft?
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People tend to be shortsighted, all they see is short term profit. Not long term benefits.

We already won, the coin is already successful. Now just wait for mass adoption.


Your being sarcastic, right?

We have soooo many things we need to do.  Nobody should be sitting back.

Up next is releasing mobile apps, new light wallet release, Apostille, and Supernodes start.  

But what we really need is some big deals.  IBM, R3, and Ethereum all have a lot more resources, so we need all the help we can get.  

Please take a minute to fill this out.  Many people actually have some little thing they can contribute to help.  https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1RWdE187ngIsRKoHo5ZQ6LPs0LNv8o65fIpATLx2gXgY/


The fact that NEM has value and not just left dead months ago proves that it is succesful, at the crypto world level. That's all I was saying.

That part is true.

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But what we really need is some big deals.  IBM, R3, and Ethereum all have a lot more resources, so we need all the help we can get.  


I absolutly agree with you for this point. But we should not give up rights for cooperating with such big companies like Microsoft and IBM. I saw that there was a poll on Qora, because getting on the Azure platform restricts the future use of the open source code. This must be a no-go for every coin project.

Thats true.

However if we get independent advice from some decent lawyers who can make some head or tail on the vague agreement, it may be of benefit to us.

NEM, THE SECURE, SCALABLE BLOCKCHAIN [NEM.IO] [T.ME/NEMRED]
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April 07, 2016, 10:22:44 PM
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if this is translated correctly looks like mijin has their first paid client Smiley

https://twitter.com/TakaoAsayama/status/718082899954630658

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April 08, 2016, 12:34:45 AM
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if this is translated correctly looks like mijin has their first paid client Smiley

https://twitter.com/TakaoAsayama/status/718082899954630658


i really hope that means a domestic bank will be using mijin and paying for it.  Shocked

2Billion tx's @ zaif? we really need to get on there..
When we get added to zaif, thats when the rest of the world will finally take notice of NEM! Grin

Meantime, keep buying while its still cheap!

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