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January 08, 2015, 09:43:21 AM
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@Eadeqa: it is a port from libsodium ref 10 implementation: https://github.com/jedisct1/libsodium/tree/master/src/libsodium/crypto_sign/ed25519/ref10

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January 08, 2015, 10:07:30 AM
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NCC working, NIS not available?
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January 08, 2015, 10:12:26 AM
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Someday all these names on this page are going to be either a "hero" or a "legend". hahaha

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January 08, 2015, 10:14:07 AM
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NCC working, NIS not available?

In case you just started the software, NIS needs some time for startup. Have patience Smiley

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January 08, 2015, 10:18:49 AM
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Why reinvent the wheel and implement one's own crypto when there are so many out there? Any crypto implemented their own? I think what our rocket scientists did was the right path. I'd do the same if i were to design a crypto.

Edit: From my deduction and observation, I believe BR was/is a professor in mathematics or physics, or at least some known and important academic figure in that discipline.
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January 08, 2015, 10:27:48 AM
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While I have the devs attention.  I would like to make a request with multi-sig.  I know you guys like tackling the impossible so here is a challenge (but maybe wait until after launch, right  Wink )

1. In Bitcoin and other coins, multi-sig as far as I know is just an option with in one person's wallet software and so each wallet company develops there own solution.  But like a mutlisig account started with one wallet software, can't really be used on another companies wallet's software as far as I know.  

Request 1: I think it would be really cool if our multisig was a cross third party platform solution and if it was I can think of lots and lots of neat things it could be used for and ways it can open up the blockchain.  For instance, smart contracts could become sooooo much easier.  I could make a "If this then that" parameter machine that could examine millions of different criteria and options and would release a part of the mutisig if some kind of function happened.  

2. All this business with multisig and multikeys is complicated for the user.  What I would think is really cool if one of the mutlisig's options could be a Google authentication code.  

Is there anyway to slip the Google Authenticator code into multi-sig? Or am I just asking too much?  (please note the do not delay launch request  Wink hahaha)

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NCC working, NIS not available?

In case you just started the software, NIS needs some time for startup. Have patience Smiley

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January 08, 2015, 10:38:44 AM
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While I have the devs attention.  I would like to make a request with multi-sig.  I know you guys like tackling the impossible so here is a challenge (but maybe wait until after launch, right  Wink )

1. In Bitcoin and other coins, multi-sig as far as I know is just an option with in one person's wallet software and so each wallet company develops there own solution.  But like a mutlisig account started with one wallet software, can't really be used on another companies wallet's software as far as I know.  

Request 1: I think it would be really cool if our multisig was a cross third party platform solution and if it was I can think of lots and lots of neat things it could be used for and ways it can open up the blockchain.  For instance, smart contracts could become sooooo much easier.  I could make a "If this then that" parameter machine that could examine millions of different criteria and options and would release a part of the mutisig if some kind of function happened.  

2. All this business with multisig and multikeys is complicated for the user.  What I would think is really cool if one of the mutlisig's options could be a Google authentication code.  

Is there anyway to slip the Google Authenticator code into multi-sig? Or am I just asking too much?  (please note the do not delay launch request  Wink hahaha)

I believe proprietary wallets use their own technology to implement multisig, combine them and broadcast the transaction if the minimum m of n sign. I believe, if well thought, the entry can be entered into the block chain as a message transaction and turns into a value transaction when the requisite m of n sign. With this method, then the m of n is a condition resting on the block chain and hence can be used by all types of proprietary wallets, so long they can 'talk NEM". I am inclined to think that the smart contract is doable in any case.

2. I haven't given enough thoughts, but my first reaction is that we may not need Google Authentication. The very existence of NEM may be good enough to create a NEM authenticator using what is already available in NEM.

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January 08, 2015, 10:51:01 AM
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While I have the devs attention.  I would like to make a request with multi-sig.  I know you guys like tackling the impossible so here is a challenge (but maybe wait until after launch, right  Wink )

1. In Bitcoin and other coins, multi-sig as far as I know is just an option with in one person's wallet software and so each wallet company develops there own solution.  But like a mutlisig account started with one wallet software, can't really be used on another companies wallet's software as far as I know.  

Usage of multi-sig might vary between companies but they all use the same implementation i.e. the one that is incorporated in bitcoin.
At least that's what I would think.

Request 1: I think it would be really cool if our multisig was a cross third party platform solution and if it was I can think of lots and lots of neat things it could be used for and ways it can open up the blockchain.  For instance, smart contracts could become sooooo much easier.  I could make a "If this then that" parameter machine that could examine millions of different criteria and options and would release a part of the mutisig if some kind of function happened.  

It is a cross third party platform in bitcoin as well. It's the "If this then that" part that varies. What multi-sig does is merely requireing more than one signature for a tx. When and by what theat signature is given is up to the imagination i guess. But that's the same in bitcoin.
I think nem busines rules could improve on the "If this then that" since it would incorporate that part in the system instead of outside logic and i guess that is what you meant.

2. All this business with multisig and multikeys is complicated for the user.  What I would think is really cool if one of the mutlisig's options could be a Google authentication code.  

Is there anyway to slip the Google Authenticator code into multi-sig? Or am I just asking too much?  (please note the do not delay launch request  Wink hahaha)

The google auth thing is a good example and I suppose would be possible with bitcoin as well.
Here is how I think it could work in both NEM and BTC:

Make a multi-sig account. You own one of the co-signers and as the second co-signer you set the address given by the Goolge Auth service.

The Google Auth service has to watch out for tx from your multi-sig account and if it finds one it'll not sign it right away but wait for you to input your curent code (via website or whatever). If you do it'll sign the tx and the tx will go though. If you don't the tx will dissapear from the network after it's deadline (ofc without you loosing any funds since the tx never went through). This may sound a bit crappy - having to to a website to confirm your code - but that service could be "streamed" through NCC as well.

If there is no such thing for BTC yet then it's only because the API is terrible to use. Otherwise this wouldn't be rocket science i think.

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January 08, 2015, 01:31:23 PM
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good to know.

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January 08, 2015, 02:39:49 PM
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Which exchanges will feature NEM?
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January 08, 2015, 03:15:15 PM
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Which exchanges will feature NEM?

Were they Poloniex and Bter?

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January 08, 2015, 03:18:54 PM
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Which exchanges will feature NEM?

Were they Poloniex and Bter?

There are 4+ that have expressed interest but I doubt they will all be ready at launch. I'm confident that Poloniex will be ready at launch though.

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January 08, 2015, 03:40:19 PM
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Polo is getting in a really dominant spot. Big target for hackers. I hope they are prepared to get hacked because it will happen sooner or later. The only question is how deep the intrusion will be.
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January 08, 2015, 04:27:52 PM
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Polo is getting in a really dominant spot. Big target for hackers. I hope they are prepared to get hacked because it will happen sooner or later. The only question is how deep the intrusion will be.


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January 08, 2015, 05:05:28 PM
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Polo is getting in a really dominant spot. Big target for hackers. I hope they are prepared to get hacked because it will happen sooner or later. The only question is how deep the intrusion will be.

Polo has also redone their website.  It looks much better now. 

I have always got my coins from them okay, but there are sometimes a little delay, though what exchange doesn't have that problems sometimes?

IF IF I need to trade NEM, I might use Polo because I already have an account with them.

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January 08, 2015, 07:57:32 PM
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I'm confused to how to get NEM.

Is NEM/NEMstake the same thing? Has it been launched? What about the claiming procedure?

Can we get NEMstake/stake now, then once it's launch we claim it for NEM or something like that? I don't know why but that's the idea I got. Could someone sumarize the process to me please? I'd be really appreciated.

Also, what's up with the fact the market cap has decreased so much but the price seems to remain the same? Did something happened to the supply?

Stratis: Same supply as Ethereum + Masternodes + ICOs + Bitcoin a Core Dev. 90% cheaper than Eth. Do the math.
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January 08, 2015, 08:23:33 PM
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I'm confused to how to get NEM.

Is NEM/NEMstake the same thing? Has it been launched? What about the claiming procedure?

Can we get NEMstake/stake now, then once it's launch we claim it for NEM or something like that? I don't know why but that's the idea I got. Could someone sumarize the process to me please? I'd be really appreciated.

Also, what's up with the fact the market cap has decreased so much but the price seems to remain the same? Did something happened to the supply?
NEM is not launched yet. So far there is a BETA client released which works with testNEM ("play money").

To buy a NEM stake (or a fraction) you have to use NXT AE. The official "get a NEM stake" phase is over since months.
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January 08, 2015, 08:25:04 PM
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I'm confused to how to get NEM.

Is NEM/NEMstake the same thing? Has it been launched? What about the claiming procedure?

Can we get NEMstake/stake now, then once it's launch we claim it for NEM or something like that? I don't know why but that's the idea I got. Could someone sumarize the process to me please? I'd be really appreciated.

Also, what's up with the fact the market cap has decreased so much but the price seems to remain the same? Did something happened to the supply?
NEM is not launched yet. So far there is a BETA client released which works with testNEM ("play money").

To buy a NEM stake (or a fraction) you have to use NXT AE. The official "get a NEM stake" phase is over since months.

..I still continue with the same questions. But thanks for the help though

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January 08, 2015, 08:25:17 PM
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I'm confused to how to get NEM.

Is NEM/NEMstake the same thing? Has it been launched? What about the claiming procedure?

Can we get NEMstake/stake now, then once it's launch we claim it for NEM or something like that? I don't know why but that's the idea I got. Could someone sumarize the process to me please? I'd be really appreciated.

Also, what's up with the fact the market cap has decreased so much but the price seems to remain the same? Did something happened to the supply?
NEM is not launched yet. So far there is a BETA client released which works with testNEM ("play money").

To buy a NEM stake (or a fraction) you have to use NXT AE. The official "get a NEM stake" phase is over since months.

At this point I'd suggest simply waiting for launch and then buying on an exchange.

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