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February 20, 2015, 11:02:34 AM
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When i have a multiaccount with 2 other cosignatory and 1 account will be hacked, then my nemcoins are not available for me and i loose them right?
until there is no m of n multisig, this is true.
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February 20, 2015, 11:04:01 AM
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@BloodyRookie: denkst du auf der Website wird es noch die Möglichkeit geben, auf Deutsch umzustellen?

Wie sieht es aus, den Nem Nemsletter auch ins deutsche zu übersetzten, da es sicher sehr viele deutsche Nutzer gibt die kein englisch können und sich deswegen vielelicht sogar abschrecken lassen. Eine deutsche NEM-Facebookseite wäre auch nicht schlecht.

Die soll keine Kritik sein, sondern nur ein paar Ideen geben, wie man eventuell die Reichweite von NEM in Deutschland (mit rund 80 Millionen potenziellen NEMster) ausbauen könnte!
Das wäre alles wunderschön, aber da wird mehr "Personal" für gebraucht. Der Client hat schon recht viele Übersetzungen, die Webseite wird auch möglichst viele Übersetzungen bekommen, aber dazu müssen die Inhalte noch weiterentwickelt werden, sonst ist das Zeitverschwendung.

Eine deutsche Facebookseite müsste jemand dauerhaft pflegen...
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February 20, 2015, 11:04:04 AM
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When i have a multiaccount with 2 other cosignatory and 1 account will be hacked, then my nemcoins are not available for me and i loose them right?

You can remove the third (hacked) one with the 2 other signatures. So the hacked one doesn't have access anymore. Your account would then become a 2 out of 2 instead of a 3 out of 3.
Problem with 2 out of 2 is that each signatorie can remove the other one.

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February 20, 2015, 11:14:14 AM
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When i have a multiaccount with 2 other cosignatory and 1 account will be hacked, then my nemcoins are not available for me and i loose them right?

You can remove the third (hacked) one with the 2 other signatures. So the hacked one doesn't have access anymore. Your account would then become a 2 out of 2 instead of a 3 out of 3.
Problem with 2 out of 2 is that each signatorie can remove the other one.

It s possible to extend the 2 of 2 in 3 of 3 after that again?

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February 20, 2015, 11:21:35 AM
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When i have a multiaccount with 2 other cosignatory and 1 account will be hacked, then my nemcoins are not available for me and i loose them right?

You can remove the third (hacked) one with the 2 other signatures. So the hacked one doesn't have access anymore. Your account would then become a 2 out of 2 instead of a 3 out of 3.
Problem with 2 out of 2 is that each signatorie can remove the other one.

It s possible to extend the 2 of 2 in 3 of 3 after that again?

yes!

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February 20, 2015, 11:24:03 AM
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When i have a multiaccount with 2 other cosignatory and 1 account will be hacked, then my nemcoins are not available for me and i loose them right?

You can remove the third (hacked) one with the 2 other signatures. So the hacked one doesn't have access anymore. Your account would then become a 2 out of 2 instead of a 3 out of 3.
Problem with 2 out of 2 is that each signatorie can remove the other one.

ok i understand..so thats the big problem of multisig... will it be possible to implement an additionally verify-system, for examply verify an action with email or sms via handy??? i think this will solve the problem, especially for normal users with no multisigaccount
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February 20, 2015, 11:26:23 AM
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@BloodyRookie: denkst du auf der Website wird es noch die Möglichkeit geben, auf Deutsch umzustellen?

Wie sieht es aus, den Nem Nemsletter auch ins deutsche zu übersetzten, da es sicher sehr viele deutsche Nutzer gibt die kein englisch können und sich deswegen vielelicht sogar abschrecken lassen. Eine deutsche NEM-Facebookseite wäre auch nicht schlecht.

Die soll keine Kritik sein, sondern nur ein paar Ideen geben, wie man eventuell die Reichweite von NEM in Deutschland (mit rund 80 Millionen potenziellen NEMster) ausbauen könnte!  Wink

Hi coingirl87,

wie mixmaster schon sagte: alles gut und schön, kostet aber eine Menge Arbeit. Ich selbst bin mit der Entwicklung der Software voll auf beschäftigt, kann also bei diesen Tasks nicht helfen. Vielleicht hast Du ja Lust, was zu organisieren Smiley

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February 20, 2015, 11:31:27 AM
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@BloodyRookie: denkst du auf der Website wird es noch die Möglichkeit geben, auf Deutsch umzustellen?

Wie sieht es aus, den Nem Nemsletter auch ins deutsche zu übersetzten, da es sicher sehr viele deutsche Nutzer gibt die kein englisch können und sich deswegen vielelicht sogar abschrecken lassen. Eine deutsche NEM-Facebookseite wäre auch nicht schlecht.

Die soll keine Kritik sein, sondern nur ein paar Ideen geben, wie man eventuell die Reichweite von NEM in Deutschland (mit rund 80 Millionen potenziellen NEMster) ausbauen könnte!  Wink

Hi coingirl87,

wie mixmaster schon sagte: alles gut und schön, kostet aber eine Menge Arbeit. Ich selbst bin mit der Entwicklung der Software voll auf beschäftigt, kann also bei diesen Tasks nicht helfen. Vielleicht hast Du ja Lust, was zu organisieren Smiley

Ok das ist sehr Schade, da ich leider zu viele Leute kenen, welche von der englischen Sprache abgeschreckt sind. Ich selber hätte schon Lust diese Aufgabe zu übernehmen aber dafür ist mein Englisch einfach zu schlecht. Vielelicht findet sich ja hier jemand im Forum?
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February 20, 2015, 11:57:42 AM
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When i have a multiaccount with 2 other cosignatory and 1 account will be hacked, then my nemcoins are not available for me and i loose them right?

You can remove the third (hacked) one with the 2 other signatures. [...]
how?
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February 20, 2015, 12:01:54 PM
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@coingirl

We could translate the most important things from Newsletter in german NEM thread. Whole translation makes sense with 100+ german people or so but not for 5-10 (as we count in german thread atm).


ps: talk in english here, please. Some people may feel "disturbed" by different languages in one thread.
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February 20, 2015, 12:28:36 PM
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When i have a multiaccount with 2 other cosignatory and 1 account will be hacked, then my nemcoins are not available for me and i loose them right?

You can remove the third (hacked) one with the 2 other signatures. [...]
how?

I think right now the gui is not supporting it, but NIS does. So in principle it could be done with a script.

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February 20, 2015, 12:33:36 PM
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When i have a multiaccount with 2 other cosignatory and 1 account will be hacked, then my nemcoins are not available for me and i loose them right?

You can remove the third (hacked) one with the 2 other signatures. [...]
how?

I think right now the gui is not supporting it, but NIS does. So in principle it could be done with a script.
Ok.

But this means a 2 of 2 multisig doesnt make sense at all, because 1 account has full power (indirectly... by deleting the other cosigner account).
I dont understand the sense of this feature.
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February 20, 2015, 12:37:23 PM
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When i have a multiaccount with 2 other cosignatory and 1 account will be hacked, then my nemcoins are not available for me and i loose them right?

You can remove the third (hacked) one with the 2 other signatures. [...]
how?

I think right now the gui is not supporting it, but NIS does. So in principle it could be done with a script.
Ok.

But this means a 2 of 2 multisig doesnt make sense at all, because 1 account has full power (indirectly... by deleting the other cosigner account).
I dont understand the sense of this feature.

That is no feature. That's just how the implementation works. You shouldn't have a 2 out of 2.
Most usecases will become way better covered once m out of n is available.

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February 20, 2015, 01:07:09 PM
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But this means a 2 of 2 multisig doesnt make sense at all, because 1 account has full power (indirectly... by deleting the other cosigner account).
I dont understand the sense of this feature.

That is no feature. That's just how the implementation works. You shouldn't have a 2 out of 2.
Most usecases will become way better covered once m out of n is available.
Well ok then call it implementation. It still dont get why it makes sense.
In fact the current implementation is a "n of n transaction multisig" and a "n-1 of n can delete cosigners" multisig.
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February 20, 2015, 01:18:28 PM
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But this means a 2 of 2 multisig doesnt make sense at all, because 1 account has full power (indirectly... by deleting the other cosigner account).
I dont understand the sense of this feature.

That is no feature. That's just how the implementation works. You shouldn't have a 2 out of 2.
Most usecases will become way better covered once m out of n is available.
Well ok then call it implementation. It still dont get why it makes sense.
In fact the current implementation is a "n of n transaction multisig" and a "n-1 of n can delete cosigners" multisig.

Yep. It is. But the problem you're having dissapears once m out of n comes into play. You can just make an extra key for security and make it n-1 out of n.

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February 20, 2015, 04:13:59 PM
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When will NEM go Live? Any News? 

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February 20, 2015, 09:49:14 PM
Last edit: February 20, 2015, 10:47:06 PM by NoirSuccubus
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Good job on the development guys. It looks like things are moving along nicely.

Its been since November since I've tried the software, I thought I'd test the latest beta. I first went for the new installer and realized I'm running 32 bit Windows so that was a bust. I'm running the the standalone version now and so far I am impressed. It was easy to get it going, just opened runMon and everything did its thing. I thought it felt very clean and user friendly. Now I am waiting for the blockchain to download, 11 days behind and I am about 45 mins waiting. I saw the other day where I could just download a copy of the blockchain to speed things up, does anyone have a link?

Edit: blockchain fully synchronized! Can someone send me some coins?

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February 20, 2015, 11:29:11 PM
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Edit: blockchain fully synchronized! Can someone send me some coins?

sure.

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February 21, 2015, 10:00:43 AM
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These are the resources on an i5 machine with 8 gigs of RAM running Windows 8.1 with NEM going.  When NEM was loading the database, it was heavy on the processor, but after it was synced and going, it was very light on the processor. Overall though, the whole time it was a bit heavy on RAM I guess.  It seems like if somebody has the extra RAM running NEM in the background on the computer will not slow down the processor at all. 



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February 21, 2015, 10:16:57 AM
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something new about official start ?
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