NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs

[boomboom]

Can someone confirm the minimum required for a remote server setup for delegated harvesting

1- NIS running
2- NCC running
3- a wallet unlocked

from my experiences over recent days it looks like the NIS stops downloading blocks (so delegated harvesting stops on the local PC wallet) if a wallet is not open in the NCC on the remote server, but I'm not 100% sure.

A remote server should run NIS only. NCC should always run locally!

So once you have NIS running on the remote server and it is booted (manually from NCC or by entering a bootkey into NIS config.properties [but please don't enter priv keys as bootkey from accounts with funds]), you can connect to that NIS and start delegated harvesting.

Please also see this: http://blog.nem.io/nem-tutorial-list/

Thanks for that answer! So on the remote server I open NCC in a browser, boot the NIS, then I can close the browser (which closes NCC?) and NIS should stay running?

On my remote server the NIS keeps stopping, but I'm not sure why.

edit: so to start the NIS you DON'T need to unlock a wallet on the remote server?

[Come-from-Beyond]

Yeah, they get the exact same thing when they don't participate in a pool but in any remote NIS. And since letting people harvest on a node doesnt take much CPU load, I believe this will be pretty decentralized.

You forgot about Sybil attack. People will connect to different NIS controlled by a single entity.

[dandruff1138]

I hate to be that guy again, but you need to sort out the issue with the /r/nem subreddit. I fear if the marketing train ever does take off that is going to come back to bite us all.

[mrvegad]

I hate to be that guy again, but you need to sort out the issue with the /r/nem subreddit. I fear if the marketing train ever does take off that is going to come back to bite us all.

and how will it do that?

[ShawnLeary]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TKTIakxUEotmTN4Et80EI7d-8XifgFZ4aBUGAukgLfY/edit?pli=1#heading=h.xchkdqowarsb

Interesting document. What percent of the total coins do the devs control? It's less than 50%, isn't it?

Developers control 65% of coins, I believe.  This is probably the worst distribution of POS coin

Rich List

https://forum.ournem.com/general-discussion/nem-rich-list/msg15666/#msg15666

[Hollowman338]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TKTIakxUEotmTN4Et80EI7d-8XifgFZ4aBUGAukgLfY/edit?pli=1#heading=h.xchkdqowarsb

Interesting document. What percent of the total coins do the devs control? It's less than 50%, isn't it?

Developers control 65% of coins, I believe.  This is probably the worst distribution of POS coin

Rich List

https://forum.ournem.com/general-discussion/nem-rich-list/msg15666/#msg15666

many coins tied up in multisig.

RIP fudders.  Go by dash or something 

[mixmaster]

So on the remote server I open NCC in a browser, boot the NIS, then I can close the browser (which closes NCC?) and NIS should stay running?

On my remote server the NIS keeps stopping, but I'm not sure why.

edit: so to start the NIS you DON'T need to unlock a wallet on the remote server?

You can do it that way, but I suggest to run just NIS with a bootkey in the config.properties (dont use a private key of an account with funds though, since it is not secure to save a priv key unencrypted in a file on a server). Set nis.shouldAutoHarvestOnBoot = false as well, it is a bug that this is "true" by default. If you boot your NIS with a proxy account of your account for which you already activated delegated harvesting, autoharvest will be fine though.

If your NIS keeps stopping (how do you notice?) you could send me the nis log.

Not 100% sure what you mean with "unlock a wallet", but probably "start NCC and log into a wallet" -> No, that is not needed to start NIS and boot NIS. Thats why you can enter a bootkey in NIS config.properties.

Yeah, they get the exact same thing when they don't participate in a pool but in any remote NIS. And since letting people harvest on a node doesnt take much CPU load, I believe this will be pretty decentralized.

You forgot about Sybil attack. People will connect to different NIS controlled by a single entity.

1) That "pool" would have to setup quite some VPS then.
2) If people notice that transactions are not sent immediately, they probably just switch to another node...

I hate to be that guy again, but you need to sort out the issue with the /r/nem subreddit. I fear if the marketing train ever does take off that is going to come back to bite us all.

There is nothing to do. The decision was made and it won't be changed now. r/ournem is the official subreddit, this link is everywhere (also in youtube videos) now and we are not going to change. Say "thank you" to okaynow for refusing the cooperation on the nicer URL (r/nem), but we have to live with it now. I also think its not a big problem People will learn fast which one is the official subreddit, since okaynow is not able to put his link on all the other official channels (website, blog, twitter, facebook etc.).
Let's just stop discussing this "issue". It is over anyway.

[okaynow]

People will learn fast which one is the official subreddit

Off course they will, you are there to remind them XD

I would avoid playing the blame game, mixmaster.
Just focus on doing your part for the community and we can all go our merry ways.

[okaynow]

People will learn fast which one is the official subreddit

Off course they will, you are there to remind them XD

I would avoid playing the blame game, mixmaster.
Just focus on doing your part for the community and we can all go our merry ways.

My point exactly, what do we need to do to remedy this?

Well, they could stop attacking the posters there



Nothing needs to be done, the community hs its independent subreddit and the core team has its own.
NEM has two so far, ideally more will spring up.

[Hollowman338]

this slapping bitch fight needs to end.  Both of you piss off with it.

[okaynow]

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[NoirSuccubus]

Why do we need 2 nem reddit pages?

[dandruff1138]

Why do we need 2 nem reddit pages?

From what I gather someone started their own NEM sub considering this is a community and not dictated by a single entity or special interest group, developers, or special interest group, want control over subreddit, owner/creator says no because this is the New Economy Movement that belongs to the community not a special interest group that has an agenda, developers hungry for control to fulfill their agenda start their own subreddit so they can dictate what happens there. Some "movement" huh? I have seen this with many coins, Want to see how this ends? Check out Reddcoin.

[Coinsy]

Why do we need 2 nem reddit pages?

From what I gather someone started their own NEM sub considering this is a community and not dictated by a single entity or special interest group, developers, or special interest group, want control over subreddit, owner/creator says no because this is the New Economy Movement that belongs to the community not a special interest group that has an agenda, developers hungry for control to fulfill their agenda start their own subreddit so they can dictate what happens there. Some "movement" huh? I have seen this with many coins, Want to see how this ends? Check out Reddcoin.

No, pretty sure the guy who started the first nem subreddit wouldn't give anyone else administrative access other than himself - so the NEM marketing team decided to make their own subreddit. It's all pretty stupid anyways.

[dandruff1138]

Why do we need 2 nem reddit pages?

From what I gather someone started their own NEM sub considering this is a community and not dictated by a single entity or special interest group, developers, or special interest group, want control over subreddit, owner/creator says no because this is the New Economy Movement that belongs to the community not a special interest group that has an agenda, developers hungry for control to fulfill their agenda start their own subreddit so they can dictate what happens there. Some "movement" huh? I have seen this with many coins, Want to see how this ends? Check out Reddcoin.

No, pretty sure the guy who started the first nem subreddit wouldn't give anyone else administrative access other than himself - so the NEM marketing team decided to make their own subreddit. It's all pretty stupid anyways.

I think having a third party in place is good for trust. When the developers start to control the situation that leaves a door open for trouble.

[rockethead]

Yeah, they get the exact same thing when they don't participate in a pool but in any remote NIS. And since letting people harvest on a node doesnt take much CPU load, I believe this will be pretty decentralized.

You forgot about Sybil attack. People will connect to different NIS controlled by a single entity.

Actually I am not sure what you are talking about. Are you talking about NXT here? You should try out and prove what you are talking about instead of postulating about NEM. If you are trying to find out answers on how NEM manages it then I think you are barking up the wrong tree in this forum. What you are saying is implicit to a fud. Why are you paying particular attention to NEM only when we are launched now?

I don't know much about you as I don't follow much about NXT and your history. From what I see, you have done some coding (or at least your group of programmers have), but to make statements like what you have done is pretty much demeaning upon yourself. I hope that is not what you are trying to say about yourself.  If you care to know more about NEM, it is not as simple as you think NEM is. For your information, like inverting a hash digest, sybil attack is a theoretical possibility. But like inverting a hash digest, sybil attack is somewhat nearer physical impossibility than a mere possibility.

Like the $42.5K you said as something that is doable but you don't have the money, this time, you don't need to spend more money to prove that your theory works. I am sure the NEM community will be very happy if you can stage a sybil attack on a constructive basis so that we can rectify the problem, take some NEM out and help you finance some of the 42.5K. Then when you earn some money, we can make back from the 3 times and put us back to even keels.

I believe it is more constructive this way than making short trolling statements and fill up the space here. I am sorry, but it is making me feel that you are now infamous for what you were.

[makoto1337]

Meanwhile, no buy support until 72 on Polo.

Noob traders freaked out after one guy did the old trick of selling a big chunk of coins into his own buy wall. (educated guess)

People always fall for that trick!

[makoto1337]

Topic switcher

Wow, so cute! Is that a NEMster?

[maruosch]

I have the same problem as discussed before (see under this post). Getting error 699, tried to stop/start delegated harvesting; Start/stop local harvesting, no change at all. I don´t understand that.  Can i connect with a remote node?What is a node? At my settings there appears "localhost", delegated harvesting is active; but when i try to start delegated harvesting: Error 699.

Thanks a lot!

..Too..many..posts...

Could you please answer this one?

Will local node and remote node have to run at the same time to do delegated harvesting?

No they don't have to run at the same time. Only the node you're harvesting on needs to run.
Anything else would defeat the point of the excecise.

Ah nice..
So the approach is:

- Setup remote node with NIS and NCC
- Set remote node's address in local settings -> host
- Activate delegated harvesting

Is this correct?

I would first setup a local NIS and NCC and get that working to be sure that there is no principal problem. Then activate delegated harvesting.
Meanwhile you can setup a remote NIS. Once the delegated harvesting is activated (needs 360 blocks) shut down local NIS and start remote NIS with the remote key as boot key.
Then change setting in ncc to connect to the remote NIS.

[nembit86]

Well thats been over one week NEM has been out and guess what , our position in the market has been pretty stable....very stable in fact. I have been around since the start and have dug pretty deep and know XEM is fairly distributed. All the FUD was just that...FUD. The fair distribution model is a good one and I expect prices to rise from here . It may not be fast price rises but thats fine. I have not sold one XEM and will not even think about it till we are at least 30 times the marketcap of now and then it will only be a small amount. Its been a good start guys. Theres lots of guys in the background working their butts off too . This is the beginning....................