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yes we waited long for the silver coin!
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nzminer
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February 04, 2017, 08:13:31 PM |
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Mmhh.... don´t forget the steakholders, they use the xem to support the network, test and use the wallet´s etc. - .....I personally think, we should use 60 % of this XEM to invest in the future of nem - development, promotion(Fintech Exhibitions), etc. .... that´s the best way for all nembers ( including steakholders  ) ! The other 40% = original steakholder (maybe a silver coin) The other question is : "When"  I think it's a good idea to distribute the silver/gold funds to the original stake holders we've waited long enough for them. we could use it to start up supernodes. I definately would start one. We were here from the beginning testing and trying out the kinks on the early versions. We're not goin nowhere I along with other true believers want to see XEM (our NEM) succeed. So Let start a conversation about silver/gold funds be distributed to the original stake holders at least to those who can still pvovide their tokens. Thanks DEVS for the great work. Keep strong nembers  Yes i agree! Anyway with the silver coins, i couldn't care less anymore.
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greentea
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February 04, 2017, 08:16:46 PM |
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I would like to see some more brainstorming for proof of concept ideas on the NEM blockchain. The more services like Apostille and Landstead, the more eyes will look to NEM BTW: whatever happened to crypto apex? https://forum.nem.io/t/crypto-apexs-application-second-round/1564/3This is way behind schedule 
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February 04, 2017, 08:29:57 PM |
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Mmhh.... don´t forget the steakholders, they use the xem to support the network, test and use the wallet´s etc. - .....I personally think, we should use 60 % of this XEM to invest in the future of nem - development, promotion(Fintech Exhibitions), etc. .... that´s the best way for all nembers ( including steakholders  ) ! The other 40% = original steakholder (maybe a silver coin) The other question is : "When"  I think it's a good idea to distribute the silver/gold funds to the original stake holders we've waited long enough for them. we could use it to start up supernodes. I definately would start one. We were here from the beginning testing and trying out the kinks on the early versions. We're not goin nowhere I along with other true believers want to see XEM (our NEM) succeed. So Let start a conversation about silver/gold funds be distributed to the original stake holders at least to those who can still pvovide their tokens. Thanks DEVS for the great work. Keep strong nembers  Yes i agree! Anyway with the silver coins, i couldn't care less anymore. it makes sense to think about collectible silver or gold coins NEM with a denomination of 100, 1000, 10000 NEM and about the special gifts of these coins account holders in the future with 10000, 100000, 1000000+, respectively
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February 05, 2017, 03:17:37 AM |
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I think it's a good idea to distribute the silver/gold funds to the original stake holders we've waited long enough for them. we could use it to start up supernodes. I definately would start one. We were here from the beginning testing and trying out the kinks on the early versions. We're not goin nowhere I along with other true believers want to see XEM (our NEM) succeed. So Let start a conversation about silver/gold funds be distributed to the original stake holders at least to those who can still pvovide their tokens. Thanks DEVS for the great work. Keep strong nembers  I really don't see why original stakeholders should be pandered to in any way whatsoever. They've either blown it or reaped the rewards already. It would make NEM look like a closed shop to benefit a small inner circle. It would be like Satoshi handing out his stash to the handful of cpu miners while everyone else looks on in disgust. If there is a gesture to be made with those funds then it should be an inclusive one.
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nzminer
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February 05, 2017, 05:03:48 AM |
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I think it's a good idea to distribute the silver/gold funds to the original stake holders we've waited long enough for them. we could use it to start up supernodes. I definately would start one. We were here from the beginning testing and trying out the kinks on the early versions. We're not goin nowhere I along with other true believers want to see XEM (our NEM) succeed. So Let start a conversation about silver/gold funds be distributed to the original stake holders at least to those who can still pvovide their tokens. Thanks DEVS for the great work. Keep strong nembers  I really don't see why original stakeholders should be pandered to in any way whatsoever. They've either blown it or reaped the rewards already. It would make NEM look like a closed shop to benefit a small inner circle. It would be like Satoshi handing out his stash to the handful of cpu miners while everyone else looks on in disgust. If there is a gesture to be made with those funds then it should be an inclusive one. Its a hard one, the funds were put aside for all the original stakeholders. Thats what the silver coins were intended for. As others mention, its a waste of funds to share it around all those accounts, when many are dead. Perhaps a more fair way would be to lower the amount of XEM needed to run a supernode to the original amount of 1 stake of XEM and then put that fund into the pool of funds for supernode rewards?
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I think it's a good idea to distribute the silver/gold funds to the original stake holders we've waited long enough for them. we could use it to start up supernodes. I definately would start one. We were here from the beginning testing and trying out the kinks on the early versions. We're not goin nowhere I along with other true believers want to see XEM (our NEM) succeed. So Let start a conversation about silver/gold funds be distributed to the original stake holders at least to those who can still pvovide their tokens. Thanks DEVS for the great work. Keep strong nembers  I really don't see why original stakeholders should be pandered to in any way whatsoever. They've either blown it or reaped the rewards already. It would make NEM look like a closed shop to benefit a small inner circle. It would be like Satoshi handing out his stash to the handful of cpu miners while everyone else looks on in disgust. If there is a gesture to be made with those funds then it should be an inclusive one. Its a hard one, the funds were put aside for all the original stakeholders. Thats what the silver coins were intended for. As others mention, its a waste of funds to share it around all those accounts, when many are dead. Perhaps a more fair way would be to lower the amount of XEM needed to run a supernode to the original amount of 1 stake of XEM and then put that fund into the pool of funds for supernode rewards? I am not running a supernode. But I am against the heavy lowering the amount of XEM needed to run a supernode, it will cause the dumping (3 million minus newly adjusted) XEM and lowering the price of XEM. Even if the amount of XEM needed to run a supernode shoule be lowered, it should be done little by little slowly/gradually reflecting tho rising of XEM price. P.S.) At any rate, i believe the amount of XEM needed to run a supernode will be lowered gradually according to the rising of XEM price. Because supernode program is not an everlasting program, if it stops abruptly at a certain time, it will cause a big dumping XEM. So, the best way is gradual lowering the amount of XEM needed to run a supernode.
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LemonAndFriesOne
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February 05, 2017, 07:51:17 AM |
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I think it's a good idea to distribute the silver/gold funds to the original stake holders we've waited long enough for them. we could use it to start up supernodes. I definately would start one. We were here from the beginning testing and trying out the kinks on the early versions. We're not goin nowhere I along with other true believers want to see XEM (our NEM) succeed. So Let start a conversation about silver/gold funds be distributed to the original stake holders at least to those who can still pvovide their tokens. Thanks DEVS for the great work. Keep strong nembers  I really don't see why original stakeholders should be pandered to in any way whatsoever. They've either blown it or reaped the rewards already. It would make NEM look like a closed shop to benefit a small inner circle. It would be like Satoshi handing out his stash to the handful of cpu miners while everyone else looks on in disgust. If there is a gesture to be made with those funds then it should be an inclusive one. Because when everyone else was laughing at NEM, we stood by. Everyone had a chance to become an original stake holder, some even got in for free. Besides those funds were voted on by the community at the time and everyone agreed to hold on to them in a community fund. We all threw BTC at NEM with the intention of having the original funds shared amongst the original investors, this is not a charity. Now what each individual original stake holder decides to do with their share, is completely up to them. Also, just because they are not vocal in the closed community that is BTCtalk does not mean those original stakeholders do not exist. Many of them just left it as a forgotten investment and are waiting news from the members who acted as their representatives on NEM ICO.
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February 05, 2017, 08:20:47 AM |
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P.S.) At any rate, i believe the amount of XEM needed to run a supernode will be lowered gradually according to the rising of XEM price. Because supernode program is not an everlasting program, it it stops abruptly at a certain time, it will cause a big dumping XEM. So, the best way is gradual lowering the amount of XEM needed to run a supernode.
yes, if lower it average 2000xem/day, it would be 0 after 4years.
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February 05, 2017, 08:22:43 AM |
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I think it's a good idea to distribute the silver/gold funds to the original stake holders we've waited long enough for them. we could use it to start up supernodes. I definately would start one. We were here from the beginning testing and trying out the kinks on the early versions. We're not goin nowhere I along with other true believers want to see XEM (our NEM) succeed. So Let start a conversation about silver/gold funds be distributed to the original stake holders at least to those who can still pvovide their tokens. Thanks DEVS for the great work. Keep strong nembers  I really don't see why original stakeholders should be pandered to in any way whatsoever. They've either blown it or reaped the rewards already. It would make NEM look like a closed shop to benefit a small inner circle. It would be like Satoshi handing out his stash to the handful of cpu miners while everyone else looks on in disgust. If there is a gesture to be made with those funds then it should be an inclusive one. Because when everyone else was laughing at NEM, we stood by. Everyone had a chance to become an original stake holder, some even got in for free. Besides those funds were voted on by the community at the time and everyone agreed to hold on to them in a community fund. We all threw BTC at NEM with the intention of having the original funds shared amongst the original investors, this is not a charity. Now what each individual original stake holder decides to do with their share, is completely up to them. Also, just because they are not vocal in the closed community that is BTCtalk does not mean those original stakeholders do not exist. Many of them just left it as a forgotten investment and are waiting news from the members who acted as their representatives on NEM ICO. As discussed before, it is not easy job and there should be trusted person/group to do it (make/share silver coins or assets). Assets would propably have a positive impact overall. I would propose voting by original stakeholders if someone will give better idea for the use of the fund. Voting should not be so difficult 😃😃😃 We have the best voting system in the world!!! BUT...first things first, C A T A P U L T..
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February 05, 2017, 09:33:54 AM |
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Actually change supernode minimum is a good idea! But only in case, then it will be increased  83k in month will be nice. 4m xem in jan 2018 to run a node. In this case, I will not worry about the xem price. And one more: community voted to give permission use all xem funds to dev team. So take yours sweaty hands off what you do not own 
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February 05, 2017, 09:51:22 AM |
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Watching today are trading on Poloniex, which the whale wants to buy more very cheap of NEM, it is such a remarkable manipulation, lower price that would have to buy tokens at 600sat, that I can even think that we will see 20 or even 30 cents per 1 NEM!
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February 05, 2017, 10:57:55 AM |
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I would agree that we could distribute that funds that suppose to be distributed to original shareholders should be. Give all of them some window time frame to redeem. Because we have to many dead accounts so it should be done by pm send from original account that has 2.3m XEM on it. With pm we will have votes like: 1) we want silver coin and rest distributed between share holders 2) we want make 50% dev fund / 50% with unused XEM (lost keys ext) 3) nuclear option send funds to ALL accounts even to those who lost priv keys ... We can discuss questions and give people bigger time window like (year/six months) in year it can many things happened all those who wanted dump are already gone so investors should not worry to much about that. If orginal share holdrs didn't dumped their share during ride from 30 >> 3000 sat they are true believers 
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nzminer
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February 05, 2017, 11:29:41 AM |
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If orginal share holdrs didn't dumped their share during ride from 30 >> 3000 sat they are true believers  I must be one of them! I was told I was stupid for holding mine! 
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February 05, 2017, 11:44:10 AM |
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I would agree that we could distribute that funds that suppose to be distributed to original shareholders should be. Give all of them some window time frame to redeem. Because we have to many dead accounts so it should be done by pm send from original account that has 2.3m XEM on it. With pm we will have votes like: 1) we want silver coin and rest distributed between share holders 2) we want make 50% dev fund / 50% with unused XEM (lost keys ext) 3) nuclear option send funds to ALL accounts even to those who lost priv keys ... We can discuss questions and give people bigger time window like (year/six months) in year it can many things happened all those who wanted dump are already gone so investors should not worry to much about that. If orginal share holdrs didn't dumped their share during ride from 30 >> 3000 sat they are true believers  all this manipulation by speculators, and we see no marketing, no distribution, no growth in the news how will the platform, having 2000 accounts, hoping to number one in the crypto continual speculation, all kind of research without using in your life
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February 05, 2017, 11:48:08 AM |
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If orginal share holdrs didn't dumped their share during ride from 30 >> 3000 sat they are true believers  I must be one of them! I was told I was stupid for holding mine!  Same here :-) but @3000 it was very hard not to sell, afterwards i should have sell i guess, missed some nice proffit there. But i believe NEM will be bigger and bigger.
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February 05, 2017, 12:57:39 PM |
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I would agree that we could distribute that funds that suppose to be distributed to original shareholders should be. Give all of them some window time frame to redeem. Because we have to many dead accounts so it should be done by pm send from original account that has 2.3m XEM on it. With pm we will have votes like: 1) we want silver coin and rest distributed between share holders 2) we want make 50% dev fund / 50% with unused XEM (lost keys ext) 3) nuclear option send funds to ALL accounts even to those who lost priv keys ... We can discuss questions and give people bigger time window like (year/six months) in year it can many things happened all those who wanted dump are already gone so investors should not worry to much about that. If orginal share holdrs didn't dumped their share during ride from 30 >> 3000 sat they are true believers  all this manipulation by speculators, and we see no marketing, no distribution, no growth in the news how will the platform, having 2000 accounts, hoping to number one in the crypto continual speculation, all kind of research without using in your life So is there growth in number of accounts or no, can someone make a chart of number of accounts in time? It is quite important to know if there is any adoption or just speculation on exchanges.
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February 05, 2017, 01:40:26 PM |
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... I think it's a good idea to distribute the silver/gold funds to the original stake holders we've waited long enough for them ....
I really don't see why original stakeholders should be pandered to in any way whatsoever. They've either blown it or reaped the rewards already. It would make NEM look like a closed shop to benefit a small inner circle. ... Because when everyone else was laughing at NEM, we stood by. Everyone had a chance to become an original stake holder, some even got in for free. Besides those funds were voted on by the community at the time and everyone agreed to hold on to them in a community fund. We all threw BTC at NEM with the intention of having the original funds shared amongst the original investors, this is not a charity. Now what each individual original stake holder decides to do with their share, is completely up to them. Also, just because they are not vocal in the closed community that is BTCtalk does not mean those original stakeholders do not exist. Many of them just left it as a forgotten investment and are waiting news from the members who acted as their representatives on NEM ICO. Yep. Well said, LemonAndFriesOne. I am one of the original stakeholders and I am still here. Waiting patiently. Watching NEM grows and following the news regularly. Since day 1. Do you realize how long ago that was? I'm here for long-term investments. Please, do not disregard the stakeholders that truly believe in NEM and have supported all these years.
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February 05, 2017, 02:12:12 PM |
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This would mean a market cap of 2-3 billion USD. This is not impossible if NEM development keep the boat steady. I am personally convinced that NEM will hit the one billion marketcap mark any time soon. Watching today are trading on Poloniex, which the whale wants to buy more very cheap of NEM, it is such a remarkable manipulation, lower price that would have to buy tokens at 600sat, that I can even think that we will see 20 or even 30 cents per 1 NEM!
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