[XMR] Monero Speculation

[Dafar]

I wanna come to the Monero Summit and Conference!     

Let's have it then.

My place is (in winter configuration - summer is much bigger) a small conference center with 28 beds. I live here, and to have a summit we only need to agree on the dates and there is a cost of lodging of course. After nearly a dozen conferences (including 6 in this place) attended by several people who have "at one time held 5% of the existing Bitcoins", I believe I can handle the practicalities with grace.

The price for a few days, all included, would be about 100 XMR. Organiser lead time about 3 weeks.

Sounds good, hopefully 100 XMR won't be worth a fortune by then... actually, I hope it will 

Let me know dates and I'll be there

i wonder how many of those 5% people are into xmr. HH perhaps knows the answer to that

Well, you have me and rpietila in this thread alone..

[rpietila]

i wonder how many of those 5% people are into xmr. HH perhaps knows the answer to that

One is from the beginning, the other 2 there is no reliable info.

EDIT: and don't you f-n think that I am any one of them.. 

[Dotto]

XMR/BTC & XMR/USD is available for trading on Livecoin:

https://www.livecoin.net/en/news/view/151

Great news. Do we know if you have to proof your identity to deposit/withdraw?

[aerbax]

NASDAQ: http://www.nasdaq.com/article/how-bitcoin-users-reclaim-their-privacy-through-its-anonymous-sibling-monero-cm673770

[Roy Badami]

Short term price speculation? I'm mixed about getting in... was sure it was gonna drop more but now not so much


25% is pretty impressive, and if I was buying something at the DNM I'd feel safer using xmr. The people who use DNMs have no problem acquiring xmr

What about the problem of some people about the "view key" feature. They said that a court order could make you show your transactions in the clear thru view key. Is this true? Why is that feature even there? It might become Monero's weakness.

Well, assuming that's true in some jurisdiction then if, hypothetically, Monero had been designed without a view key - so that the only way you could view your transactions was with your private key - then in that scenario a court could almost certainly just order you to release the private key instead.  Better to give the court just the ability to view, rather than the ability to view and spend.

It's much the same as (one of) the more general arguments for not using the same keys for encrypting and signing messages.  In many jurisdictions courts can demand keys to decrypt your messages, but there's rarely if ever a valid reason for them to demand to be able to forge your signature on messages.  So again, it's useful to be able to give them just the key they need, rather than the only way of complying with the order being to give them far more than they need.

roy

[anama]

iam prediction monero can up go the moon
is every one coin monero can up price 500k satoshi in end year

[nioc]

NASDAQ: http://www.nasdaq.com/article/how-bitcoin-users-reclaim-their-privacy-through-its-anonymous-sibling-monero-cm673770

A mainstream article that basically covers the major points and does so correctly.  Just the facts mam, just the facts.

 

[aerbax]

NASDAQ: http://www.nasdaq.com/article/how-bitcoin-users-reclaim-their-privacy-through-its-anonymous-sibling-monero-cm673770

A mainstream article that basically covers the major points and does so correctly.  Just the facts mam, just the facts.

 

Agreed.  The word "criminal" was nowhere to be found.

[flagel8]

NASDAQ: http://www.nasdaq.com/article/how-bitcoin-users-reclaim-their-privacy-through-its-anonymous-sibling-monero-cm673770

A mainstream article that basically covers the major points and does so correctly.  Just the facts mam, just the facts.

 

Agreed.  The word "criminal" was nowhere to be found.

Yes! THIS to me is the most bullish thing yet. Not the graphs, but the gradual acceptance of Monero as a usable currency, by normal humans. GLTA!

[Anon136]

NASDAQ: http://www.nasdaq.com/article/how-bitcoin-users-reclaim-their-privacy-through-its-anonymous-sibling-monero-cm673770

A mainstream article that basically covers the major points and does so correctly.  Just the facts mam, just the facts.

 

Agreed.  The word "criminal" was nowhere to be found.

Yes! THIS to me is the most bullish thing yet. Not the graphs, but the gradual acceptance of Monero as a usable currency, by normal humans. GLTA!

To me its all about the fundamentally sound tech, utility and the growing community awareness.

[nanobrain]

Yes, that's all good.

But believe me, the sensationalist pieces will follow -- that's not being either pessimistic or contrarian, simply experienced with the print medium.  Its the obvious angle for editors to spice up a dry tech/economics story.

In some ways its not a problem, it simply reflects the same rite of passage BTC went through -- and of course it does mean a lot of writers are going to have volte face on how they describe BTC (ie they sold it to the masses as anonymous but hey turns out it isn't).

[opennux]

Yes, that's all good.

But believe me, the sensationalist pieces will follow -- that's not being either pessimistic or contrarian, simply experienced with the print medium.  Its the obvious angle for editors to spice up a dry tech/economics story.

In some ways its not a problem, it simply reflects the same rite of passage BTC went through -- and of course it does mean a lot of writers are going to have volte face on how they describe BTC (ie they sold it to the masses as anonymous but hey turns out it isn't).

I wonder if the smart editor would pick a different angle. I mean, what bitcoin went through has been done so many times now. It's really beating a dead horse, and I just wonder if that's a good sell for a news-outlet. If I was an editor that only had page-views / newspaper sales and a happy board in mind, then I*m not even sure I'd choose that whole approach and sell again. But I am giving them too much credit...

[Drhiggins]

I wish I had a large chunk of change right now.   The old days of low prices are over.  Even at 0.0138 I want to buy many many Monero.  This ride up is just getting going.  The next year in development and acceptance is key.    

How well did the protestors keep people off Tor today?  Anyone know?  I wonder if that had anything to do with the slow downward stabilization in price today.  

[nanobrain]

Yes, that's all good.

But believe me, the sensationalist pieces will follow -- that's not being either pessimistic or contrarian, simply experienced with the print medium.  Its the obvious angle for editors to spice up a dry tech/economics story.

In some ways its not a problem, it simply reflects the same rite of passage BTC went through -- and of course it does mean a lot of writers are going to have volte face on how they describe BTC (ie they sold it to the masses as anonymous but hey turns out it isn't).

I wonder if the smart editor would pick a different angle. I mean, what bitcoin went through has been done so many times now. It's really beating a dead horse, and I just wonder if that's a good sell for a news-outlet. If I was an editor that only had page-views / newspaper sales and a happy board in mind, then I*m not even sure I'd choose that whole approach and sell again. But I am giving them too much credit...

Smart editors....ha ha ha

"If it bleeds, it leads"....similarly sex, crime and drugs get eyeballs.

Also, most editors are in thrall to their proprietors' political views/ambitions.  This (XMR) is low hanging fruit for rightwing news outlets.

Way, way too much credit

My point is: a tsunami of these stories is swelling on the horizon but don't worry, in the long run it will be good for XMR.

[opennux]

Yes, that's all good.

But believe me, the sensationalist pieces will follow -- that's not being either pessimistic or contrarian, simply experienced with the print medium.  Its the obvious angle for editors to spice up a dry tech/economics story.

In some ways its not a problem, it simply reflects the same rite of passage BTC went through -- and of course it does mean a lot of writers are going to have volte face on how they describe BTC (ie they sold it to the masses as anonymous but hey turns out it isn't).

I wonder if the smart editor would pick a different angle. I mean, what bitcoin went through has been done so many times now. It's really beating a dead horse, and I just wonder if that's a good sell for a news-outlet. If I was an editor that only had page-views / newspaper sales and a happy board in mind, then I*m not even sure I'd choose that whole approach and sell again. But I am giving them too much credit...

Smart editors....ha ha ha

"If it bleeds, it leads"....similarly sex, crime and drugs get eyeballs.

Also, most editors are in thrall to their proprietors' political views/ambitions.  This (XMR) is low hanging fruit for rightwing news outlets.

Way, way too much credit

My point is: a tsunami of these stories is swelling on the horizon but don't worry, in the long run it will be good for XMR.

haha..
yeah, there's hardly any, if any at all, stories like that on bitcoin anymore.

[Hueristic]

I wanna know what Warz thinks.

[aminorex]

The next year in development and acceptance is key.    

So you're saying the next 8766 hours are critical?

[nanobrain]

The next year in development and acceptance is key.    

So you're saying the next 8766 hours are critical?

Surely, the next 525, 960 953 minutes are critical?

[MooneroShill]

I wanna know what Warz thinks.

He has commented on the GUI looking nice.

He took a "decent chunk" of profit in 007-009.

But he also thinks it could go to 03.

[coinism]

i wonder how many of those 5% people are into xmr. HH perhaps knows the answer to that

One is from the beginning, the other 2 there is no reliable info.

EDIT: and don't you f-n think that I am any one of them.. 

very good sire.