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[ifightformerkel]

DEV CONFIRMED ON IRC THAT THERE WAS NO HIDDEN PREMINE.

ONLY FUD FROM THE CCN (Cannacoin) GUYS FOR 100%.

THEY WILL WRITING SOON ABOUT IT,
WHEN THE MEETING IS OVER WITH THE CNN REPORTER.

[tokyopotato]

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/cann/address.dws?CVgZYgExgjcDPkvsXnvXQBjH5weo3NPQ3t.htm

There is no doubt some of the coins can be accounted for and the sooner all 21.8 million coins are accounted for, the sooner that DeltaNine and CANN community can put this behind them. We have not attacked Ty or his personal character whatsoever. DeltaNine has been asked many times by many people to provide accounting for the pre-mine which he failed to do and we believe he is obligated to do.  We have searched far and wide for some type of accounting, including asking him about it many times.  When we started looking at the blockchain, it became clear something was not right and there was never any public accounting for the 21.8 million coins.

Those 12.5 million coins are not all of the unaccounted coins.  If you delve further into the blockchan, you'll find many more 500k wallets that have had small transactions paid into them.

The sooner all 21.8 million coins are accounted for, the sooner that DeltaNine and CANN community can put this behind them.

[Razerglass]

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/cann/address.dws?CVgZYgExgjcDPkvsXnvXQBjH5weo3NPQ3t.htm

There is no doubt some of the coins can be accounted for and the sooner all 21.8 million coins are accounted for, the sooner that DeltaNine and CANN community can put this behind them. We have not attacked Ty or his personal character whatsoever. DeltaNine has been asked many times by many people to provide accounting for the pre-mine which he failed to do and we believe he is obligated to do.  We have searched far and wide for some type of accounting, including asking him about it many times.  When we started looking at the blockchain, it became clear something was not right and there was never any public accounting for the 21.8 million coins.

Those 12.5 million coins are not all of the unaccounted coins.  If you delve further into the blockchan, you'll find many more 500k wallets that have had small transactions paid into them.

The sooner all 21.8 million coins are accounted for, the sooner that DeltaNine and CANN community can put this behind them.

The whole cann community will fight you if you simply ask about the Premine. So much darkness where there needs to be light.

for example. asking about the premine got him this.....

[ifightformerkel]

Can you explain me where this 58.5 Million Cannabiscoins come from?

They where on 1 account!

This account send 117 transactions with each 500.000 Cannabiscoin to other wallets.

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/cann/address.dws?CYpdnaZPQA3CrwMsFC9tMoP3wLNkn3dMHL.htm

When this will be a premine that means

21.8 Millionen official Premine

+ 58.5 Million Hidden Premine

= 80.3 Million Coins Premined from total 106 Million Coins.

only a question
i found this on the irc channel

[tokyopotato]

[CANN]Cannabis Coin Pre-Mine Transparency Discussion
 
 
I’d like to have an open transparent discussion about the pre-mined coins behind Cannabis Coin (CANN). I believe the information below is in the best interest of all those investing in CANN as a cannabis crypto.
 
Lets get to the facts.
 
- CANN was originally launched as a scrypt based mining protocol/algorithm and shortly thereafter transitioned to X11 for fear of ASIC technology that may cause a negative impact to the fairness of mining scrypt.
 
- CANN decided ‘it would it be a good sacrifice' to drop the blockchain altogether and completely re-launch. This required all miners to update their coins and trade them directly to the dev team for their new X11 coins.
 
- The relaunch of CannabisCoin (CANN) contained a pre-mine block of 21,882,000 CANN located here: http://chainz.cryptoid.info/cann/block.dws?1.htm
 
- 25+ addresses contain 500k coins EACH directly linked to the pre-mined address and still sit untouched over 130 days, creation date aprox June 12, 2014..
 
- All 25 wallet address were payed in single payments (500k coins) in short succession, block after block as a pre-pared and planned payment. This does not indicate a number of coins rewarded to miners as the redistribution program was intended for.
 
Block #’s that publicly show this information of the wallets pushed 500k transactions: 9059,9065,9064,9070,9072,9075,9079,9083,9085,9085,9089,9089,9093,9095,9097,9099,9100,9100,9104,9104,9133,9135,9138,9138,9139,9139,9141,9144,248410,261076,261076, 246192
 
Here is block 9059 to get you started: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/cann/block.dws?9059.htm
 
you can see these addresses in succession on the top 100 richest CANN addresses here: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/cann/#!rich (make sure to select top 100 addresses)
 
The 500k wallets start at #22 all the way to #51. These are all linked directly to the pre-mine wallet address: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/cann/address.dws?CL2VEsNv5sEvQhUaVj3x13Ch8PJGgFgCyU.htm

Again, lets keep the discussion open and transparent followed by factual evidence. This thread is in no way directed to be FUD or rumors, this intended for public review by the community as to get some answers.  It seems there is no information that I've been able to find regarding this transition and I'm sure there are other's would would like to know as well.

[Razerglass]

gotta spread the word somehow...

[passion4cannabis]

Still awaiting a reply from the dev team regarding my concerns....

Still no update since D9's meeting.

https://i.imgur.com/oyEuJQj.jpg

Patience, he is only one Dev stepping away from a screen to make things happen in the real world.

[xk001]

CANNABIS COINS IS NOT A SCAM
IMPORTANT MESSAGE:

i was one of the first miners. few people had faith in cannabiscoin and miners where turning to hyped coins. cannabis coin got ignored from public while difficulty was very low and i mined around 100.000 cannabiscoins.. (wich i foolishly sold at 300 satoshi) due to FUD.

there was a change from scrypt to X11 and the blockchain got something that i technically did not understood.
developers twitted to recover all lost coins to active miners as it could be matched by info on miningpool.
i got my coins back in the new blockchain as well as my friends which had replied. (some ignored thinking CANN would be worthless)

i told everybody how trustworthy developers were and they have been so far.

i have still 10k CANN and holding cuz i dont care about FUD and hypes. this coin is asset backed... 99% of coins are not.
this coin does help to disrupt the medicinal marijuana industry.

even if the developers had a huge premine i would not give a fuck! as they are working hard and changing the medical marijuana world.

thanks for your guys time.
by a sick person seeking cannabis oil on EU country, for an undiagnosed disease

PS: all my experience with cannabiscoin can be seen by browsing my username posts. all this is true.

[loner]

i feel a scam

[zoata87]

i feel a scam

Date Registered: Today at 05:45:30 PM

you dont even know what scam means.

[Bitcycle]

We have not attacked Ty or his personal character whatsoever.

LOL.

Scumbag.

[hermundur]

i like cannabiscoin very much and i also want problems - regarding the recent lack of credibility of D9 and CANN to some coincidentally newly popped up folks - to get solved. posting screenshots of how you are getting kicked by d9 without showing the previous conversation is nothing of evidence.

[btcmemberships]

What good is a clean blockchain with a lying two-faced dev behind the PR wheel?

The irony though is all these pot coins jumping on CANN all of a sudden will bring themselves down with it; if CANN fails crypto will find another fad to pump and dump and weed coins will go the way of the country or animal coins. Looking at the character though of Coyoto Wallstreet, Adam Garrity and Tokypotato, I can't say I wouldn't mind that either.

If you're implying Coyote Wallstreet has anything to do with PotCoin then you're wrong

lol....pretty sure coyote wallstreet has something to do with Potcoin.  Your group are bunch of losers over there. DICKHEADS to be excate. Don't bother reply to me I don't associate myself with PotCoin losers.

[loner]

i feel a scam

Date Registered: Today at 05:45:30 PM

you dont even know what scam means.

ok what is it then ? i smell scam

[RagingBull]

regardless if this was a scam or not, what needed to be done was done pump, FUD, dump, buy cheap, clear FUD, pump, recycle... if you do not know how this works you should not be investing in any coin.

[loner]

yeah you right though

[WarrEagle]

I asked about those wallets eons ago and got no response either. Those coins came from the genesis block pre-mine. They were all transferred from the genesis wallet. If you know anything of how crypto works you would be asking the same questions.

The blockchain does not lie or FUD. I believe in the coin. But those wallets need to be addressed properly. Why is there 12.5 Million CANN sitting in wallets unspent since 131 days ago. That's all we are asking. If the devs say they don't know? I don't buy that. They were transferred from the Genesis block and wallet. Easy enough to track that down using block explorers.

[nukefxr]

[21:15] <@DeltaNineDev> I will continue to due my findings of these 25 wallets in question: We are giving the person whos coins these are 2 weeks to claim them before we invalidate the addresses so they cannot be spent on the CANN network.
[21:16] <@DeltaNineDev> do not due
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[21:16] <amnesiac_> If they are invalidated what is the total coin supply then?
[21:16] <@DeltaNineDev> 12.5m in those wallets
[21:16] <@DeltaNineDev> those will be invalidated in the source
[21:16] <Zoggy32> DeltaNineDev, I have a question. How are you able to invalidate coins on the network without the private keys? I assume this will require a new wallet
[21:16] <@DeltaNineDev> yes

[LazerPanther]

Everyone spread this message from the IRC

[21:15] <@DeltaNineDev> I will continue to due my findings of these 25 wallets in question: We are giving the person whos coins these are 2 weeks to claim them before we invalidate the addresses so they cannot be spent on the CANN network.
[21:16] <@DeltaNineDev> do not due
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[21:16] <amnesiac_> If they are invalidated what is the total coin supply then?
[21:16] <@DeltaNineDev> 12.5m in those wallets
[21:16] <@DeltaNineDev> those will be invalidated in the source
[21:16] <Zoggy32> DeltaNineDev, I have a question. How are you able to invalidate coins on the network without the private keys? I assume this will require a new wallet
[21:16] <@DeltaNineDev> yes

[tokyopotato]

[21:15] <@DeltaNineDev> I will continue to due my findings of these 25 wallets in question: We are giving the person whos coins these are 2 weeks to claim them before we invalidate the addresses so they cannot be spent on the CANN network.
[21:16] <@DeltaNineDev> do not due
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[21:16] <amnesiac_> If they are invalidated what is the total coin supply then?
[21:16] <@DeltaNineDev> 12.5m in those wallets
[21:16] <@DeltaNineDev> those will be invalidated in the source
[21:16] <Zoggy32> DeltaNineDev, I have a question. How are you able to invalidate coins on the network without the private keys? I assume this will require a new wallet
[21:16] <@DeltaNineDev> yes

No coins should be destroyed until there is complete transparency of all the pre-mined coins, not just those 12.5 million.