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I did not hate the Islam religion it is the people who misuses it. ....
This is an often repeated concept. However if it is true, then are the following also true? I did not hate Mein Kamf, it is the people who misuses it... I did not hate the Marquis de Sade's Justine, it is the people who misuses it... I did not hate the Das Kapital, it is the people who misuses it... Why isn't the book or set of teachings responsible for the errors or crimes of those who follow it? Let me give a simple example. There is a common law, that when driving if you run into someone from behind it is your fault. But we all know there are many cases where it is not your fault. Someone in front of the car in front of you ran into another car. This called the car in front of you to be wrecked, and then your car. We accept this as a consequence of having the law and perhaps the idea that more good than bad comes from it. But nobody will say only good comes from it.... Yes, a very wise point of view, I agree If it is the people who do the evil and not the book that suggests it, then WHY ARE BOOKS BANNED? Muslims would like to argue that the Koran is without fault, but people may be flawed. Nothing can be the fault of the book. But they are the first in the world to ban books of all sort. Here is a story about 420 books that Saudi Arabia has banned. http://www.thenational.ae/world/saudi-arabia/saudi-bans-books-at-fair-in-wide-ranging-crackdownCensorship and Persecution in the Name of Islam http://www.aina.org/news/20070108191217.htm
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August 26, 2016, 10:15:13 PM |
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The myth of Muslim tolerance for Jews and Christians This vision was spelled out in Maria Rosa Menocal's The Ornament of the World: How Muslims, Jews and Christians Created a Culture of Tolerance in Medieval Spain (2002) and reinforced by David Levering Lewis's God's Crucible: Islam and the Making of Europe, 570-1215 (2008). But it has deep roots. Edward Gibbon, in his famous 18th-century history of the decline and fall of the Roman Empire, wrote in glowing terms of the 10th-century Umayyad caliphate in Spain as a beacon of enlightenment, learning and urban living, at a time when Europe was plunged in bigotry, ignorance and poverty.
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Histories judgement of Islam just got far worse. There is nothing to redeem about a religion that crystallizes ethnic hatreds around one language and one religion. That is why it was the blueprint for Nazism. Read more at http://globalwarming-arclein.blogspot.ca/2016/08/the-myth-of-muslim-tolerance-for-jews.html.
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August 26, 2016, 10:36:21 PM |
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Islam never hate people, Islam protect all believers in the moslems majority. Do Arab Saudi burn churches? No, Do Indonesian Government burn Churches? I live in Indonesia. I am a moslem. I don't hate non moslem, we live peacefully in moslem majority.
In area where moslems are about 50 % of the community, conflict often happen. Why? Non moslems hate us. They threaten us because we say Allah is The Only God. in my region 90 % moslems. Non moslem live peacefully, their properties are protected. Who protectet them? We are moslems.
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August 26, 2016, 10:40:28 PM |
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why Islam hate people? because of their idiotic beliefs. Have you ever wondered why most of the terrorists came from Islam? because their holy-book told them so.
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August 26, 2016, 10:52:38 PM |
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Islam never hate people, Islam protect all believers in the moslems majority. Do Arab Saudi burn churches? No, Do Indonesian Government burn Churches? I live in Indonesia. I am a moslem. I don't hate non moslem, we live peacefully in moslem majority.
In area where moslems are about 50 % of the community, conflict often happen. Why? Non moslems hate us. They threaten us because we say Allah is The Only God. in my region 90 % moslems. Non moslem live peacefully, their properties are protected. Who protectet them? We are moslems.
The problem isn't with weak Muslims, like you. The problem is with strong Muslims who obey the Koran, like ISIS. As _Django05_ says: why Islam hate people? because of their idiotic beliefs. Have you ever wondered why most of the terrorists came from Islam? because their holy-book told them so.
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August 27, 2016, 12:45:08 AM |
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Islam never hate people, Islam protect all believers in the moslems majority. Do Arab Saudi burn churches? No, Do Indonesian Government burn Churches? I live in Indonesia. I am a moslem. I don't hate non moslem, we live peacefully in moslem majority.
In area where moslems are about 50 % of the community, conflict often happen. Why? Non moslems hate us. They threaten us because we say Allah is The Only God. in my region 90 % moslems. Non moslem live peacefully, their properties are protected. Who protectet them? We are moslems.
I don't know about that. I am curious as to your comment on this article on Islamic terrorism in your country. http://world.time.com/2013/08/26/qa-indonesias-terrorism-expert-on-the-countrys-homegrown-jihadis/Indonesia has endured terrorist attacks targeting churches, embassies, nightclubs and luxury hotels for over a decade. While much focus has been on the link between Indonesian terrorist groups and al-Qaeda, terrorism expert and author Solahudin argues that the jihadist movement actually has local origins, dating back to the early years of the country’s independence. In the wake of the 2002 Bali bombing, the former journalist and press activist spent years doing research — interviewing jihadists, reading court documents and scouring religious sources — for a groundbreaking book. The English translation, The Roots of Terrorism in Indonesia: From Darul Islam to Jema’ah Islamiyah, was published this month. Solahudin, who like many Indonesians goes by one name, talks with TIME from Jakarta. Should this man have been freed? http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/187257/indonesia-frees-muslim-terrorist-who-beheaded-3-daniel-greenfield
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August 27, 2016, 02:04:59 AM |
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Islam never hate people, Islam protect all believers in the moslems majority. Do Arab Saudi burn churches? No, Do Indonesian Government burn Churches? I live in Indonesia. I am a moslem. I don't hate non moslem, we live peacefully in moslem majority.
In area where moslems are about 50 % of the community, conflict often happen. Why? Non moslems hate us. They threaten us because we say Allah is The Only God. in my region 90 % moslems. Non moslem live peacefully, their properties are protected. Who protectet them? We are moslems.
I don't know about that. I am curious as to your comment on this article on Islamic terrorism in your country. http://world.time.com/2013/08/26/qa-indonesias-terrorism-expert-on-the-countrys-homegrown-jihadis/Indonesia has endured terrorist attacks targeting churches, embassies, nightclubs and luxury hotels for over a decade. While much focus has been on the link between Indonesian terrorist groups and al-Qaeda, terrorism expert and author Solahudin argues that the jihadist movement actually has local origins, dating back to the early years of the country’s independence. In the wake of the 2002 Bali bombing, the former journalist and press activist spent years doing research — interviewing jihadists, reading court documents and scouring religious sources — for a groundbreaking book. The English translation, The Roots of Terrorism in Indonesia: From Darul Islam to Jema’ah Islamiyah, was published this month. Solahudin, who like many Indonesians goes by one name, talks with TIME from Jakarta. Should this man have been freed? http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/187257/indonesia-frees-muslim-terrorist-who-beheaded-3-daniel-greenfieldfreed? he should have been killed, hung then beheaded. Why the fuck would they freed him? Beheading just for ramadan present? fuck. Muslim way.
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August 27, 2016, 03:15:04 AM |
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Islam never hate people, Islam protect all believers in the moslems majority. Do Arab Saudi burn churches? No, Do Indonesian Government burn Churches? I live in Indonesia. I am a moslem. I don't hate non moslem, we live peacefully in moslem majority.
In area where moslems are about 50 % of the community, conflict often happen. Why? Non moslems hate us. They threaten us because we say Allah is The Only God. in my region 90 % moslems. Non moslem live peacefully, their properties are protected. Who protectet them? We are moslems.
I don't know about that. I am curious as to your comment on this article on Islamic terrorism in your country. http://world.time.com/2013/08/26/qa-indonesias-terrorism-expert-on-the-countrys-homegrown-jihadis/Indonesia has endured terrorist attacks targeting churches, embassies, nightclubs and luxury hotels for over a decade. While much focus has been on the link between Indonesian terrorist groups and al-Qaeda, terrorism expert and author Solahudin argues that the jihadist movement actually has local origins, dating back to the early years of the country’s independence. In the wake of the 2002 Bali bombing, the former journalist and press activist spent years doing research — interviewing jihadists, reading court documents and scouring religious sources — for a groundbreaking book. The English translation, The Roots of Terrorism in Indonesia: From Darul Islam to Jema’ah Islamiyah, was published this month. Solahudin, who like many Indonesians goes by one name, talks with TIME from Jakarta. Should this man have been freed? http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/187257/indonesia-frees-muslim-terrorist-who-beheaded-3-daniel-greenfieldfreed? he should have been killed, hung then beheaded. Why the fuck would they freed him? Beheading just for ramadan present? fuck. Muslim way. Well, yeah. I just don't understand it. I DO understand tribal thinking: We are good and honest, they are bad and evil and cause us trouble <<blah blah blah>> But how the hell does even that get twisted into freeing this guy?
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August 28, 2016, 01:51:40 AM |
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Islam never hate people, Islam protect all believers in the moslems majority. Do Arab Saudi burn churches? No, Do Indonesian Government burn Churches? I live in Indonesia. I am a moslem. I don't hate non moslem, we live peacefully in moslem majority.
In area where moslems are about 50 % of the community, conflict often happen. Why? Non moslems hate us. They threaten us because we say Allah is The Only God. in my region 90 % moslems. Non moslem live peacefully, their properties are protected. Who protectet them? We are moslems.
I don't know about that. I am curious as to your comment on this article on Islamic terrorism in your country. http://world.time.com/2013/08/26/qa-indonesias-terrorism-expert-on-the-countrys-homegrown-jihadis/Indonesia has endured terrorist attacks targeting churches, embassies, nightclubs and luxury hotels for over a decade. While much focus has been on the link between Indonesian terrorist groups and al-Qaeda, terrorism expert and author Solahudin argues that the jihadist movement actually has local origins, dating back to the early years of the country’s independence. In the wake of the 2002 Bali bombing, the former journalist and press activist spent years doing research — interviewing jihadists, reading court documents and scouring religious sources — for a groundbreaking book. The English translation, The Roots of Terrorism in Indonesia: From Darul Islam to Jema’ah Islamiyah, was published this month. Solahudin, who like many Indonesians goes by one name, talks with TIME from Jakarta. Should this man have been freed? http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/187257/indonesia-frees-muslim-terrorist-who-beheaded-3-daniel-greenfieldfreed? he should have been killed, hung then beheaded. Why the fuck would they freed him? Beheading just for ramadan present? fuck. Muslim way. how dare you insult Islam? What do you know about Islam ? Islam is a beautiful religion ,
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August 28, 2016, 02:17:36 AM |
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Islam hate peoples because islam book is created by fake Muhhamed boy which is same thin like Jesus but both pupils never did exist.So i dont beleive in God beucause he dont want proof that he exist and he dont care.
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August 28, 2016, 04:28:56 AM |
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freed? he should have been killed, hung then beheaded. Why the fuck would they freed him? Beheading just for ramadan present? fuck. Muslim way.
Indonesia is a Muslim country, and they don't take the murder of a non-Muslim by one of their own citizens seriously. In fact, Indonesia is the largest Muslim nation in the world, when population is taken into account (although Pakistan is close behind). No wonder that the ISIS is making major plans to recruit Jihadis from Indonesia.
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August 28, 2016, 12:50:10 PM |
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I don't really think Islam teaches us to hate people. same with Christians I think Islam is a bit misunderstood. I mean both religion are pretty much revolving on the same foundation which basically tells us to love and have respect for our fellow humans regardless of culture and religion. but then that's just my opinion 
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August 28, 2016, 01:59:19 PM |
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I don't really think Islam teaches us to hate people. same with Christians I think Islam is a bit misunderstood. I mean both religion are pretty much revolving on the same foundation which basically tells us to love and have respect for our fellow humans regardless of culture and religion. but then that's just my opinion  This all depends on how you define Islam. If you define Islam as a bunch of common, everyday people, who simply say that they are Muslim, and maybe know a little about their religion/government, then you are probably right. But if you define Islam as the religious writings of the Koran and the Hadiths, then you are right regarding the Muslim community, and wrong regarding other religions and governments. 
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August 28, 2016, 02:44:21 PM |
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how dare you insult Islam?
calm down... What do you know about Islam? The actions of people who profess this religion speak for themselves.  Islam is a beautiful religion , i known: 
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August 28, 2016, 03:35:44 PM |
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how dare you insult Islam?
What do you know about Islam ?
Islam is a beautiful religion ,
What do you know about Islam ?Islam teach its followers to be a terrorist. Islam is a beautiful religionyeah, we know that very well. Islam is a beautiful religion that teaches Muslim, kill or be killed will go to Islam heaven. That's why there are many muslim terrorist and suicide bombers. They don't care how they die and they don't care many people get killed in the process. "What a beautiful religion" 
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August 28, 2016, 03:36:32 PM |
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how dare you insult Islam?
Oh, is Islam immune from insult, criticism, scrutiny and ridicule? What do you know about Islam ?
Enough to make me give it a wide berth. Islam is a beautiful religion ,
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
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Islam never hate people, Islam protect all believers in the moslems majority. Do Arab Saudi burn churches? No, Do Indonesian Government burn Churches? I live in Indonesia. I am a moslem. I don't hate non moslem, we live peacefully in moslem majority.
In area where moslems are about 50 % of the community, conflict often happen. Why? Non moslems hate us. They threaten us because we say Allah is The Only God. in my region 90 % moslems. Non moslem live peacefully, their properties are protected. Who protectet them? We are moslems.
I don't know about that. I am curious as to your comment on this article on Islamic terrorism in your country. http://world.time.com/2013/08/26/qa-indonesias-terrorism-expert-on-the-countrys-homegrown-jihadis/Indonesia has endured terrorist attacks targeting churches, embassies, nightclubs and luxury hotels for over a decade. While much focus has been on the link between Indonesian terrorist groups and al-Qaeda, terrorism expert and author Solahudin argues that the jihadist movement actually has local origins, dating back to the early years of the country’s independence. In the wake of the 2002 Bali bombing, the former journalist and press activist spent years doing research — interviewing jihadists, reading court documents and scouring religious sources — for a groundbreaking book. The English translation, The Roots of Terrorism in Indonesia: From Darul Islam to Jema’ah Islamiyah, was published this month. Solahudin, who like many Indonesians goes by one name, talks with TIME from Jakarta. Should this man have been freed? http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/187257/indonesia-frees-muslim-terrorist-who-beheaded-3-daniel-greenfieldfreed? he should have been killed, hung then beheaded. Why the fuck would they freed him? Beheading just for ramadan present? fuck. Muslim way. how dare you insult Islam? What do you know about Islam ? Islam is a beautiful religion , Your turn, buddy. Should this man have been freed? http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/187257/indonesia-frees-muslim-terrorist-who-beheaded-3-daniel-greenfield
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August 28, 2016, 07:13:40 PM |
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Has anybody lived in moslem majority? Don't talk from magazine or newspaper. Live here in Indonesia, we respect non moslem as neighbors. One non moslem neighbor has one right. She/he should be treated kindly. No command in QUran and hadith to kill non moslem neighbor. Terorists don't practice Islam in whole teaching.
Many terorists are reqruited from Indonesia. yes, we know from media. We as moslems community in Indonesia can't identify their presence in our social live. The terorists have underground activities. They can't generate all moslems are terorists. Not all moslems have the same thought as the terorists do. The terorists fewer than 0.1% of the moslems community and their activities are underground.
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August 28, 2016, 07:24:03 PM |
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Has anybody lived in moslem majority? Don't talk from magazine or newspaper. Live here in Indonesia, we respect non moslem as neighbors. One non moslem neighbor has one right. She/he should be treated kindly. No command in QUran and hadith to kill non moslem neighbor. Terorists don't practice Islam in whole teaching.
Many terorists are reqruited from Indonesia. yes, we know from media. We as moslems community in Indonesia can't identify their presence in our social live. The terorists have underground activities. They can't generate all moslems are terorists. Not all moslems have the same thought as the terorists do. The terorists fewer than 0.1% of the moslems community and their activities are underground.
You also don't respect Islam enough to obey the religion as it is stated in the Koran and the Hadiths... a religion of violence toward non-Muslims, and toward Muslims that someone accuses of backsliding. See http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx. 
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how dare you insult Islam?
What do you know about Islam ?
Islam is a beautiful religion ,
7 post newbie with every post about Islam. I think you have signed up for the wrong forum mate especially if your feelings get hurt when your precious prophet gets insulted. You may be better off signing up for a website like this one, a good Islamic guide on how to beat your wife correctly : http://answering-islam.org/Silas/wife-beating.htm 
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