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I did some rough calculations using your 15MW and from the most recent tests it looks like AM would need to deploy 490,000 24 chip boards to gain 20% of the network. Does that sounds right? I wonder how many boards were deployed the the 5ph AmHash farm. 490k boards sounds like a daunting amount of work that might not be doable.
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January 21, 2015, 04:59:58 PM |
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Electricity: About 15MW.
Assumptions: 300PH total network hashrate, 0.25W per GH, 20% network share.
Tubes (curently used by AMHASH) are rated @ ~1W/GH. So we can asume that AMHASH (5PH) is curently @ 5MW facility. With new gen hardware AM could have ~20PH thats 6.66% of total hashrate. Few months back there were pictures of new datacenter under development with cooperation of RM and some others (can't find it now). So, if it will be another 5MW then AM can have over 10% of total hashrate. |
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January 21, 2015, 05:12:38 PM |
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Am can't just unplug gen 2 and replace with new chips though. AmHash owners still own shares until the mining OP is unprofitable which may be some time. I wonder how AM will handle this because it would be a shame to waste 5MW on gen 2 hardware but they can't just give AM hash owners gen 3 hardware for free.
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January 21, 2015, 05:37:58 PM
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Am can't just unplug gen 2 and replace with new chips though. AmHash owners still own shares until the mining OP is unprofitable which may be some time. I wonder how AM will handle this because it would be a shame to waste 5MW on gen 2 hardware but they can't just give AM hash owners gen 3 hardware for free.
AMHash owners are getting paid based on formula.
Hardware can be replaced, formula calculating the divs stays the same, and operating costs stay as stated in the contract.You're right, new hardware would be free for AMHash owners, but AM can then get over half of that 5MW power for additional new mining hardware. |
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January 21, 2015, 06:05:23 PM |
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Am can't just unplug gen 2 and replace with new chips though. AmHash owners still own shares until the mining OP is unprofitable which may be some time. I wonder how AM will handle this because it would be a shame to waste 5MW on gen 2 hardware but they can't just give AM hash owners gen 3 hardware for free.
AMHash owners are getting paid based on formula.
Hardware can be replaced, formula calculating the divs stays the same, and operating costs stay as stated in the contract.You're right, new hardware would be free for AMHash owners, but AM can then get over half of that 5MW power for additional new mining hardware. Also, probability that AMHASH contracts expire before next deployment is likely high. What would a reasonable expectation be for the next 4 diff adjustments? If they are up, that should clear AMhash contracts. |
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January 21, 2015, 06:10:18 PM |
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Am can't just unplug gen 2 and replace with new chips though. AmHash owners still own shares until the mining OP is unprofitable which may be some time. I wonder how AM will handle this because it would be a shame to waste 5MW on gen 2 hardware but they can't just give AM hash owners gen 3 hardware for free.
If I was AM I'd just wait for the AMHash contracts to expire due to lack of profitability then replace the hardware and sell more contracts. Those contracts pay for their own maintenance so running the farm pays for itself. If AM can build a few new farms as well, so much the better. Remember, they had 60 Ph/s worth of chips early last year. |
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January 23, 2015, 06:09:24 AM |
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that was what i was thinking too, seems not anymore now? |
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January 23, 2015, 08:01:40 AM |
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Fried cat just posted this: Block Erupter Prisma2.0 auction size: 36.7cm x 16.4cm x 16.4cm
weight: 7.5kg
hashrate: 1.35TH/s to 1.48TH/s (depending on PSU output voltage and clocking)
power: 1.05kW to 1.25kW (depending on PSU output voltage and clocking)
clock: 230MHz to 260MHz (ranging from 11.5V to 12.5V of different PSU output voltage with full load)
starting unit price: 0.3BTC
minimum unit price bidding increase: 0.01BTC
minimum quantity: 20
total quantity: 200
ending time: 08:00:00 AM, January 15, 2015
https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=932445.msg10233572#msg10233572 |
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January 23, 2015, 08:10:27 AM |
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Round One of Block Erupter Prisma2.0 Auction has begun. Auction Rules starting unit price: 0.3BTC minimum unit price bidding increase: 0.01BTC minimum quantity: 20 total quantity: 200 ending time: 08:00:00 AM January 25, 2015 To bid, please reply in this post: https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=932445.msg10233572#msg10233572 |
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January 23, 2015, 11:15:43 AM |
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Less than $50 per TH?!
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January 23, 2015, 01:26:45 PM |
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that was what i was thinking too, seems not anymore now? That was my recollection as well. Data Tank mining was supposed to be AM chips (at least initially) but now have been completely bought out by bitfury. Bad news I guess. |
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January 23, 2015, 01:33:44 PM |
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Fried cat just posted this: Block Erupter Prisma2.0 auction size: 36.7cm x 16.4cm x 16.4cm
weight: 7.5kg
hashrate: 1.35TH/s to 1.48TH/s (depending on PSU output voltage and clocking)
power: 1.05kW to 1.25kW (depending on PSU output voltage and clocking)
clock: 230MHz to 260MHz (ranging from 11.5V to 12.5V of different PSU output voltage with full load)
starting unit price: 0.3BTC
minimum unit price bidding increase: 0.01BTC
minimum quantity: 20
total quantity: 200
ending time: 08:00:00 AM, January 15, 2015
https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=932445.msg10233572#msg10233572Very interesting! People have to keep in mind that these are running old BE200 chips still. AM most likely is selling off all their old gear sitting on the shelves. There's no reason for them to hold on to that hardware right now. Just get rid of it and grab as much BTC as you can while doing so! |
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January 23, 2015, 01:34:54 PM |
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that was what i was thinking too, seems not anymore now? That was my recollection as well. Data Tank mining was supposed to be AM chips (at least initially) but now have been completely bought out by bitfury. Bad news I guess. Yeah, not good news, definitely. But their immersion efforts seem to be on hold, anyways. Haven't seen any new immersion mining facilities of AM, lately. They still could have some ongoing cooperation contracts, who knows? |
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January 23, 2015, 02:44:54 PM |
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What's the best chip bitfury have or making
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January 23, 2015, 02:57:29 PM |
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January 25, 2015, 01:36:40 PM |
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Wow people are still following this crap,
I can't believe you all haven't moved on, holding on to lost dreams and speculating must be tiring. When was the last divs paid?
Fuck me wake up to yourselves
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Dexter770221
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January 25, 2015, 05:13:39 PM |
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Yeah, but anyone seen these chips? Any tests? Where to buy miners? Where to buy shares of bitfury... Oh wait... |
Under development Modular UPGRADEABLE Miner (MUM). Looking for investors.
Changing one PCB with screwdriver and you have brand new miner in hand... Plug&Play, scalable from one module to thousands.
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January 25, 2015, 05:22:04 PM |
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Yeah, but anyone seen these chips? Any tests? Where to buy miners? Where to buy shares of bitfury... Oh wait... They have no reason to show them since they do not have too. |
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January 25, 2015, 06:32:03 PM |
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Well, bitfury does have great chips, it seems. And they seem to know how to run a decent operation. But this is in no ways impeding AM from grabbing their own share of the pie. I'm still very confident the final BE300 chip will do just fine!
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