Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it

[vneos]

Someone told you we only need 1% of your confidence, and they were right. Now, can someone explain to this N00b what we can actually do if we have the hex? And please, stop repeating nonsense like a parrot.

They are not even willing to run decoderawtransaction command themselves to see what would actually happen. Using Mara to move low bit puzzles(personaly I think less than 100) does carry some risk, but this only occurs if there are malicious people inside Mara (though I don’t think such a thing would happen). Still, it is much safer than directly using the public mempool.

Overall, using Mara is the best option available today for transferring low bit puzzles.

[nochkin]

Everybody is speaking about MARA, but is really safe?
You go on first page and say enter your transaction hex without any identification.
Even with this issue of unknowing what is happening when you submit, if everything is true about stealing, why they do not steal from everyone? There are milions of transactions every day.
If this was the case, nobody was using bitcoin anymore...

I think you need to learn how transactions signed and why only certain ones can be cracked.
In short, "millions of transactions every day" don't use low entropy private keys. There is no way you can steal them using modern equipment in any feasible way.
There is no special "identification" needed to submit a signed tx to a blockchain.
It's well known what happens when you submit your tx.

[blackd111]

Let's say you are right and i do not have this information yet and i need to read more.
If someone is staying to steal, should have already the devices(1000+) ready and they have no ideea when someone will do the transaction or not. Even if they own or rent the devices and they have in standby, the money they spent for nothing are huge!!!
Let's say they crack in minutes before the transaction is made, there are multiple solutions without using MARA:
-create 1000 transactions to a good wallet from the puzzle
-make a sweep keys with another wallet
-go and make a payment on chain
-go and convert funds on chain to another coin
Even for that they can crack your wallet?

Anyway, if you go in binance wallet, and you have the identity verified, you can add the private key there and make the transaction. If anybody want to steal the money, you are covered by Binance system because is their wallet/enviroment

So have fun!

[Cricktor]

Mara's Slipstream service is basically a non-public mempool that charges a surplus (compared to the normal public mempool fee market) to collect transactions that will become confirmed in one of Mara's next mined blocks. Transactions sent to Slipstream are NOT broadcasted to other nodes. They remain hidden from public until their attached feerate justifies to be mined in a block by Mara's mining pool.

Mara is a stock listed company to my knowledge and they would be stupid to spoil and stain their Slipstream service. Slipstream is to my knowledge the only such easily accessible public service which allows to mine non-standard and/or non-public transactions.

It's possible that other major mining pools also offer similar services, but contrary to Mara's Slipstream, they don't seem to be public. You would have to find a contact at some other reasonably large mining pool, negotiate terms and extra fees, trust they don't screw you to have them mine a transaction of yours hidden from public.

So far IIRC we have only two samples mined safely by Slipstream service of Mara, namely puzzle #67 and #68 withdrawals.
Puzzle #67 withdrawal transaction 0be77ec8...46e32986 has Audit "Not seen in Mempool" where mempool.space clearly indicates that this transaction wasn't seen in public before it was actually confirmed in a block, here of course mined by Mara.

Same is for puzzle #68 withdrawal transaction a5635eb2...88b0eb08, mempool.space's Audit is again "Not seen in Mempool", i.e. hidden from public mempools.

With unconditional FullRBF any public broadcasting of a transaction disclosing the public key of known low entropy private key "secured" funds is suicide for the funds. What some folks here posted like offering a high fee under some stupid conditions only shows one thing: a lack of understanding of consequences of FullRBF in public mempools and how mining works.

Mining blocks is a random process. It's only within larger time frames that blocks are mined in about 10 minutes on average! See the TTM column at https://bitcoinexplorer.org/blocks how variable the temporal distance of blocks is (here TTM is based on the timestamp of the block, not when the block actually was seen by a particular node in the network).


We've seen how the withdrawal of puzzle #69 was likely stolen IIRC, because the team of solvers was stupid enough to ignore so far safe hidden non-public mining via https://slipstream.mara.com.

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Bullshit. Fortunately you won't solve any of the remaining puzzles to embarras yourself with a spectacular failure to withdraw a solution.

[blackd111]

Thank you for information! I was reading about this many times, but now i need to prove you that the Binance method will work. So i will use the  Binance method when i will find something. I was not searching anything until now but now i have a challenge.

[nochkin]

If someone is staying to steal, should have already the devices(1000+) ready and they have no ideea when someone will do the transaction or not. Even if they own or rent the devices and they have in standby, the money they spent for nothing are huge!!!

You don't have to run the rental devices when not being used. The cost is zero. That's the beauty of it.

Let's say they crack in minutes before the transaction is made, there are multiple solutions without using MARA:
-create 1000 transactions to a good wallet from the puzzle
-make a sweep keys with another wallet
-go and make a payment on chain
-go and convert funds on chain to another coin
Even for that they can crack your wallet?

That's all irrelevant to the issue and will not mitigate it at all. A good idea is to learn how TX work in Bitcoin world and how the fees are implemented in general. If you know how to code, then try to make a program to transfer crypto from one wallet to another.

Anyway, if you go in binance wallet, and you have the identity verified, you can add the private key there and make the transaction. If anybody want to steal the money, you are covered by Binance system because is their wallet/enviroment

This assumption is incorrect. It's not "their" wallet.

[blackd111]

Go to Binance terms and conditions on the Wallet when you want to import a private key. They are protecting your money if someone is trying to decode the transaction or public key.
Only if you share the private key they will not protect. So making the transfer using their wallet, do not matter what is happening because you will receive the money because the transaction is guaranteed.
So Import the private key in Binance wallet, transfer the funds to onchain wallet and VOILA! You have the money in 10 min without any risk!

[nochkin]

Go to Binance terms and conditions on the Wallet when you want to import a private key. They are protecting your money if someone is trying to decode the transaction or public key.

You keep interchanging meanings of private and public key randomly. That leads me into thinking that you are missing a general understanding how things work. I would highly recommend to learn to avoid common mistakes and losing money.

Only if you share the private key they will not protect.

Exactly the point. Since someone else has the private key, this is no longer "your" wallet and so no longer your coins.

[nochkin]

According to this process from here, you say that someone is decoding the public key and extract the private key? So if they do reverse engineering of this process from this script, this means that they can decode almost any public key and get the private key very easy, no?

That is incorrect. Not sure why you append some piece of AI code here, it will not change a thing.

[Frequence]

Mara's Slipstream service is basically a non-public mempool that charges a surplus (compared to the normal public mempool fee market) to collect transactions that will become confirmed in one of Mara's next mined blocks. Transactions sent to Slipstream are NOT broadcasted to other nodes. They remain hidden from public until their attached feerate justifies to be mined in a block by Mara's mining pool.

Mara is a stock listed company to my knowledge and they would be stupid to spoil and stain their Slipstream service. Slipstream is to my knowledge the only such easily accessible public service which allows to mine non-standard and/or non-public transactions.

It's possible that other major mining pools also offer similar services, but contrary to Mara's Slipstream, they don't seem to be public. You would have to find a contact at some other reasonably large mining pool, negotiate terms and extra fees, trust they don't screw you to have them mine a transaction of yours hidden from public.

So far IIRC we have only two samples mined safely by Slipstream service of Mara, namely puzzle #67 and #68 withdrawals.
Puzzle #67 withdrawal transaction 0be77ec8...46e32986 has Audit "Not seen in Mempool" where mempool.space clearly indicates that this transaction wasn't seen in public before it was actually confirmed in a block, here of course mined by Mara.

Same is for puzzle #68 withdrawal transaction a5635eb2...88b0eb08, mempool.space's Audit is again "Not seen in Mempool", i.e. hidden from public mempools.

With unconditional FullRBF any public broadcasting of a transaction disclosing the public key of known low entropy private key "secured" funds is suicide for the funds. What some folks here posted like offering a high fee under some stupid conditions only shows one thing: a lack of understanding of consequences of FullRBF in public mempools and how mining works.

Mining blocks is a random process. It's only within larger time frames that blocks are mined in about 10 minutes on average! See the TTM column at https://bitcoinexplorer.org/blocks how variable the temporal distance of blocks is (here TTM is based on the timestamp of the block, not when the block actually was seen by a particular node in the network).


We've seen how the withdrawal of puzzle #69 was likely stolen IIRC, because the team of solvers was stupid enough to ignore so far safe hidden non-public mining via https://slipstream.mara.com.

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Bullshit. Fortunately you won't solve any of the remaining puzzles to embarras yourself with a spectacular failure to withdraw a solution.

You summed it all up bbro. That’s a complete recap about Mara and the previous cases. I really enjoyed reading your response.

[mahmood1356]

Hello, I would like to share something with the forum administrator via email. Does anyone know how to contact him?

[mcdouglasx]

Mara is an American company, which is multi-million dollar, and its shares are listed on the stock market, so thinking that this private service will lead to a transaction being replaced in your company is absurd, this would make they lose credibility and millions of dollars, much more than these 7 BTC of the puzzle, and as for the one who mentions other techniques like Binance, they should be reported or banned, since this only tells us that they want whoever finds it to use this false technique, and then attack the transaction using bots.

[Bastketsrus]

Any info on who published this puzzle and what's their goal? Also, how would one go on about calculating those pvk decimal values and covert them to the private keys?

I don't know why but I'm smelling a big scam. Because a newbie that offer more than 12 000€ to solve a following of numbers this is strange...

The OP is not offering anything

I have no idea about who created this transactions, I was just playing around with the bot and stumbled upon it.

After reviewing a bunch of pvks found by the bot I noticed that many of the addresses were on the same transaction, after checking closely I found those kind of sequence patterns.

Looks tempting to crack

One thing I noticed:

The first address in the transaction is tagged on blockchain.info with "1st Bitcoin Address Compressed".

So probably this transaction was done by the Bitcoin devs? or even... satoshi?

Sounds interesting. Could just be an old test or experiment from the early days rather than something intentional to crack. The "1st Bitcoin Address Compressed" tag makes me think it’s more likely tied to dev testing than Satoshi himself.

[kTimesG]

Let's say you are right and i do not have this information yet and i need to read more.
If someone is staying to steal, should have already the devices(1000+) ready and they have no ideea when someone will do the transaction or not. Even if they own or rent the devices and they have in standby, the money they spent for nothing are huge!!!
Let's say they crack in minutes before the transaction is made, there are multiple solutions without using

... [rest of BS]

So have fun!

I really hope you solve any puzzle up to #100. I can definitely re-assure you that the fail-safe methods you'll use will not be proven to be wrong in mere minutes (or rather sub-seconds for trivial problems like #71).

The guy who'd prove you wrong would probably either sleep or be at the beach, not staring on a screen waiting to spin up 1000 GPUs, you know?

[Bastketsrus]

Everybody is speaking about MARA, but is really safe?
You go on first page and say enter your transaction hex without any identification.
Even with this issue of unknowing what is happening when you submit, if everything is true about stealing, why they do not steal from everyone? There are milions of transactions every day.
If this was the case, nobody was using bitcoin anymore...

Good point. If it was actually stealing, the scale would be huge and obvious by now. Most likely it’s either just risky to trust blindly or people are overthinking it. Always better to stay cautious though.

[Frequence]

Hello, I would like to share something with the forum administrator via email. Does anyone know how to contact him?

Did you solve it?! Was that signal from you, srsly I was waiting for this message, @mahmood1356? I’ve stopped scanning. I think you have doubts about the bots, but follow what the others are saying.
Don’t forget me 123456789432PgWu32w4fUA8qvL4WxRvHj. I’m sure you did it, and guys, we have a solver for 71, let’s help him transfer it properly

[nochkin]

Hello, I would like to share something with the forum administrator via email. Does anyone know how to contact him?

Did you solve it?!

How would a forum admin help in this case? If someone solved it, that person should just follow the instructions as discussed here. Sign the TX manually, submit it to a private miner he/she trusts and that's all.
It's simple when you know what you are doing. If you don't, then you research and make it simple.
I could also suggest to hire someone, but not sure if one can trust somebody here. I probably would not, but that's me.

[Frequence]

Hello, I would like to share something with the forum administrator via email. Does anyone know how to contact him?

Did you solve it?!

How would a forum admin help in this case? If someone solved it, that person should just follow the instructions as discussed here. Sign the TX manually, submit it to a private miner he/she trusts and that's all.
It's simple when you know what you are doing. If you don't, then you research and make it simple.
I could also suggest to hire someone, but not sure if one can trust somebody here. I probably would not, but that's me.

I’m willing to bet this guy has cracked the puzzle. I told you all before that there was unusual activity tied to it. Don’t ask me how I know, but I’m confident someone here figured it out and was searching for it. And now it’s finally appeared. Congrats to them, and just follow the instructions like everyone else. Hopefully, they’ll share it with us too DON'T Trust ANYONE.

[Menowa*]

Hello, I would like to share something with the forum administrator via email. Does anyone know how to contact him?

Did you solve it?!

How would a forum admin help in this case? If someone solved it, that person should just follow the instructions as discussed here. Sign the TX manually, submit it to a private miner he/she trusts and that's all.
It's simple when you know what you are doing. If you don't, then you research and make it simple.
I could also suggest to hire someone, but not sure if one can trust somebody here. I probably would not, but that's me.

I’m willing to bet this guy has cracked the puzzle. I told you all before that there was unusual activity tied to it. Don’t ask me how I know, but I’m confident someone here figured it out and was searching for it. And now it’s finally appeared. Congrats to them, and just follow the instructions like everyone else. Hopefully, they’ll share it with us too DON'T Trust ANYONE.

If he did cracked, congratulations! But thats not enough, he didnt solved it yet since funds still there and moving it safely is part of the solving. Until then, anybody can crack it and claim the funds before him. Hope he gets the prize if he indeed cracked 71 or whatever other puzzle. BBut until now, there is not enough evidence if someone has really cracked a puzzle.

[mahmood1356]

Hello, I would like to share something with the forum administrator via email. Does anyone know how to contact him?

Did you solve it?! Was that signal from you, srsly I was waiting for this message, @mahmood1356? I’ve stopped scanning. I think you have doubts about the bots, but follow what the others are saying.
Don’t forget me 123456789432PgWu32w4fUA8qvL4WxRvHj. I’m sure you did it, and guys, we have a solver for 71, let’s help him transfer it properly

I have spent a lot of time and money on puzzles, and with the discussions I have seen in the forum, I really can't trust anyone except the forum administrator. I would like to ask the forum administrator to introduce me to a way to communicate before it's too late. Thank you.