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06:19:52:728 1328 ZEC - Total Speed: 459.846 H/s, Total Shares: 4238, Rejected: 6, Time: 01:46
06:19:52:728 1328 ZEC: GPU0 230.285 H/s, GPU1 229.561 H/s, GPU2 0.000 H/s
06:19:53:040 fc ZEC: put share nonce 4c
06:19:53:040 fc ZEC round found 1 shares
06:19:53:055 1328 ZEC: 11/20/16-06:19:53 - SHARE FOUND - (GPU 1)
06:19:53:055 1328 send share: {"id": 4, "method": "mining.submit", "params":
["my adress","3ad6a41e4ee516cccde8","7a323158","4c0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000","fd400500158b61170db4c2
06:19:53:087 1328 got 23 bytes
06:19:53:087 1328 buf: {"id":4,"result":true}
06:19:53:087 1328 parse packet: 22
06:19:53:087 1328 ZEC: Share accepted (32 ms)!
06:19:53:087 1328 new buf size: 0
06:19:53:196 13a0 ZEC: put share nonce 73
06:19:53:196 13a0 ZEC round found 1 shares
06:19:53:211 1328 ZEC: 11/20/16-06:19:53 - SHARE FOUND - (GPU 1)
06:19:53:211 1328 send share: {"id": 4, "method": "mining.submit", "params":
["my adress","3ad6a41e4ee516cccde8","7a323158","730000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000","fd400501d55903177193ab
06:19:53:243 1328 got 23 bytes
06:19:53:243 1328 buf: {"id":4,"result":true}
06:19:53:243 1328 parse packet: 22
06:19:53:243 1328 ZEC: Share accepted (32 ms)!
06:19:53:243 1328 new buf size: 0
06:19:53:461 13a0 ZEC: put share nonce d2
06:19:53:461 13a0 ZEC round found 1 shares
06:19:53:477 1328 ZEC: 11/20/16-06:19:53 - SHARE FOUND - (GPU 1)
06:19:53:477 1328 send share: {"id": 4, "method": "mining.submit", "params":
["my adress","3ad6a41e4ee516cccde8","7a323158","d20000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000","fd400500aef34ea14f3254
06:19:53:508 1328 got 23 bytes
06:19:53:508 1328 buf: {"id":4,"result":true}
06:19:53:508 1328 parse packet: 22
06:19:53:508 1328 ZEC: Share accepted (31 ms)!
06:19:53:508 1328 new buf size: 0
06:19:56:098 75c ZEC: put share nonce 481
06:19:56:098 75c ZEC round found 1 shares
06:19:56:113 1328 ZEC: 11/20/16-06:19:56 - SHARE FOUND - (GPU 0)
06:19:56:113 1328 send share: {"id": 4, "method": "mining.submit", "params":
[quote][quote][quote][/quote][/quote][/quote]["my adress","3ad6a41e4ee516cccde8","7a323158","810400000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000","fd4005001c8b0d790f8123
06:19:56:144 1328 got 23 bytes
06:19:56:144 1328 buf: {"id":4,"result":true}
06:19:56:144 1328 parse packet: 22
06:19:56:144 1328 ZEC: Share accepted (31 ms)!
06:19:56:144 1328 new buf size: 0
06:19:56:238 10a8 GPU0 t=60C fan=70%, GPU1 t=53C fan=70%, GPU2 t=42C fan=70%
06:19:56:238 10a8 em hbt: 0, fm hbt: 94,
06:19:56:238 10a8 watchdog - thread 0, hb time 16
06:19:56:238 10a8 watchdog - thread 1, hb time 78
06:19:56:238 10a8 watchdog - thread 2, hb time 47
06:19:56:238 10a8 watchdog - thread 3, hb time 109
06:19:56:238 10a8 watchdog - thread 4, hb time 94
06:19:56:238 10a8 watchdog - thread 5, hb time 31
06:19:56:238 10a8 watchdog - thread 6, hb time 63
06:19:56:238 10a8 watchdog - thread 7, hb time 125
06:19:56:238 10a8 watchdog - thread 8, hb time 60607
06:19:56:238 10a8 WATCHDOG: GPU 2 hangs in OpenCL call, exit
06:19:56:238 10a8 watchdog - thread 9, hb time 60638
06:19:56:238 10a8 WATCHDOG: GPU 2 hangs in OpenCL call, exit
06:19:56:238 10a8 watchdog - thread 10, hb time 60700
06:19:56:238 10a8 WATCHDOG: GPU 2 hangs in OpenCL call, exit
06:19:56:238 10a8 watchdog - thread 11, hb time 60669
06:19:56:238 10a8 WATCHDOG: GPU 2 hangs in OpenCL call, exit
06:19:57:268 10a8 Restarting OK, exit..
Im mining with: PC ---- mb: MSI Z97 G55 / CPU: i7 4790K / 12GB Kingston hyperX1600 Mhz ram / Win 7 pro 64bit 3x MSI R9 390 gaming 8 GB (no bios modding) each getting 232-236 H/s stable OC Settings with Grimson v16.10.3: GPU clock: +10% = 1144 Mhz Power limit: +10% Memory clock: 1650 Mhz I would like to ask what is my problem. The rig gets restarted in about 12-16 hours. I see that GPU2 is hashing 0 but i use the same settings on another rig with 390s and there is no such a problem. Many thanks for any advice.... |
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manoe
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November 20, 2016, 07:10:51 PM |
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06:19:52:728 1328 ZEC - Total Speed: 459.846 H/s, Total Shares: 4238, Rejected: 6, Time: 01:46
06:19:52:728 1328 ZEC: GPU0 230.285 H/s, GPU1 229.561 H/s, GPU2 0.000 H/s
06:19:53:040 fc ZEC: put share nonce 4c
06:19:53:040 fc ZEC round found 1 shares
06:19:53:055 1328 ZEC: 11/20/16-06:19:53 - SHARE FOUND - (GPU 1)
06:19:53:055 1328 send share: {"id": 4, "method": "mining.submit", "params":
["my adress","3ad6a41e4ee516cccde8","7a323158","4c0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000","fd400500158b61170db4c2
06:19:53:087 1328 got 23 bytes
06:19:53:087 1328 buf: {"id":4,"result":true}
06:19:53:087 1328 parse packet: 22
06:19:53:087 1328 ZEC: Share accepted (32 ms)!
06:19:53:087 1328 new buf size: 0
06:19:53:196 13a0 ZEC: put share nonce 73
06:19:53:196 13a0 ZEC round found 1 shares
06:19:53:211 1328 ZEC: 11/20/16-06:19:53 - SHARE FOUND - (GPU 1)
06:19:53:211 1328 send share: {"id": 4, "method": "mining.submit", "params":
["my adress","3ad6a41e4ee516cccde8","7a323158","730000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000","fd400501d55903177193ab
06:19:53:243 1328 got 23 bytes
06:19:53:243 1328 buf: {"id":4,"result":true}
06:19:53:243 1328 parse packet: 22
06:19:53:243 1328 ZEC: Share accepted (32 ms)!
06:19:53:243 1328 new buf size: 0
06:19:53:461 13a0 ZEC: put share nonce d2
06:19:53:461 13a0 ZEC round found 1 shares
06:19:53:477 1328 ZEC: 11/20/16-06:19:53 - SHARE FOUND - (GPU 1)
06:19:53:477 1328 send share: {"id": 4, "method": "mining.submit", "params":
["my adress","3ad6a41e4ee516cccde8","7a323158","d20000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000","fd400500aef34ea14f3254
06:19:53:508 1328 got 23 bytes
06:19:53:508 1328 buf: {"id":4,"result":true}
06:19:53:508 1328 parse packet: 22
06:19:53:508 1328 ZEC: Share accepted (31 ms)!
06:19:53:508 1328 new buf size: 0
06:19:56:098 75c ZEC: put share nonce 481
06:19:56:098 75c ZEC round found 1 shares
06:19:56:113 1328 ZEC: 11/20/16-06:19:56 - SHARE FOUND - (GPU 0)
06:19:56:113 1328 send share: {"id": 4, "method": "mining.submit", "params":
[quote][quote][quote][/quote][/quote][/quote]["my adress","3ad6a41e4ee516cccde8","7a323158","810400000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000","fd4005001c8b0d790f8123
06:19:56:144 1328 got 23 bytes
06:19:56:144 1328 buf: {"id":4,"result":true}
06:19:56:144 1328 parse packet: 22
06:19:56:144 1328 ZEC: Share accepted (31 ms)!
06:19:56:144 1328 new buf size: 0
06:19:56:238 10a8 GPU0 t=60C fan=70%, GPU1 t=53C fan=70%, GPU2 t=42C fan=70%
06:19:56:238 10a8 em hbt: 0, fm hbt: 94,
06:19:56:238 10a8 watchdog - thread 0, hb time 16
06:19:56:238 10a8 watchdog - thread 1, hb time 78
06:19:56:238 10a8 watchdog - thread 2, hb time 47
06:19:56:238 10a8 watchdog - thread 3, hb time 109
06:19:56:238 10a8 watchdog - thread 4, hb time 94
06:19:56:238 10a8 watchdog - thread 5, hb time 31
06:19:56:238 10a8 watchdog - thread 6, hb time 63
06:19:56:238 10a8 watchdog - thread 7, hb time 125
06:19:56:238 10a8 watchdog - thread 8, hb time 60607
06:19:56:238 10a8 WATCHDOG: GPU 2 hangs in OpenCL call, exit
06:19:56:238 10a8 watchdog - thread 9, hb time 60638
06:19:56:238 10a8 WATCHDOG: GPU 2 hangs in OpenCL call, exit
06:19:56:238 10a8 watchdog - thread 10, hb time 60700
06:19:56:238 10a8 WATCHDOG: GPU 2 hangs in OpenCL call, exit
06:19:56:238 10a8 watchdog - thread 11, hb time 60669
06:19:56:238 10a8 WATCHDOG: GPU 2 hangs in OpenCL call, exit
06:19:57:268 10a8 Restarting OK, exit..
Im mining with: PC ---- mb: MSI Z97 G55 / CPU: i7 4790K / 12GB Kingston hyperX1600 Mhz ram / Win 7 pro 64bit 3x MSI R9 390 gaming 8 GB (no bios modding) each getting 232-236 H/s stable OC Settings with Grimson v16.10.3: GPU clock: +10% = 1144 Mhz Power limit: +10% Memory clock: 1650 Mhz I would like to ask what is my problem. The rig gets restarted in about 12-16 hours. I see that GPU2 is hashing 0 but i use the same settings on another rig with 390s and there is no such a problem. Many thanks for any advice.... Bad riser or virtual memory that isn't standing on minimum 16gb |
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November 20, 2016, 07:27:01 PM |
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06:19:52:728 1328 ZEC - Total Speed: 459.846 H/s, Total Shares: 4238, Rejected: 6, Time: 01:46
06:19:52:728 1328 ZEC: GPU0 230.285 H/s, GPU1 229.561 H/s, GPU2 0.000 H/s
06:19:53:040 fc ZEC: put share nonce 4c
06:19:53:040 fc ZEC round found 1 shares
06:19:53:055 1328 ZEC: 11/20/16-06:19:53 - SHARE FOUND - (GPU 1)
06:19:53:055 1328 send share: {"id": 4, "method": "mining.submit", "params":
["my adress","3ad6a41e4ee516cccde8","7a323158","4c0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000","fd400500158b61170db4c2
06:19:53:087 1328 got 23 bytes
06:19:53:087 1328 buf: {"id":4,"result":true}
06:19:53:087 1328 parse packet: 22
06:19:53:087 1328 ZEC: Share accepted (32 ms)!
06:19:53:087 1328 new buf size: 0
06:19:53:196 13a0 ZEC: put share nonce 73
06:19:53:196 13a0 ZEC round found 1 shares
06:19:53:211 1328 ZEC: 11/20/16-06:19:53 - SHARE FOUND - (GPU 1)
06:19:53:211 1328 send share: {"id": 4, "method": "mining.submit", "params":
["my adress","3ad6a41e4ee516cccde8","7a323158","730000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000","fd400501d55903177193ab
06:19:53:243 1328 got 23 bytes
06:19:53:243 1328 buf: {"id":4,"result":true}
06:19:53:243 1328 parse packet: 22
06:19:53:243 1328 ZEC: Share accepted (32 ms)!
06:19:53:243 1328 new buf size: 0
06:19:53:461 13a0 ZEC: put share nonce d2
06:19:53:461 13a0 ZEC round found 1 shares
06:19:53:477 1328 ZEC: 11/20/16-06:19:53 - SHARE FOUND - (GPU 1)
06:19:53:477 1328 send share: {"id": 4, "method": "mining.submit", "params":
["my adress","3ad6a41e4ee516cccde8","7a323158","d20000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000","fd400500aef34ea14f3254
06:19:53:508 1328 got 23 bytes
06:19:53:508 1328 buf: {"id":4,"result":true}
06:19:53:508 1328 parse packet: 22
06:19:53:508 1328 ZEC: Share accepted (31 ms)!
06:19:53:508 1328 new buf size: 0
06:19:56:098 75c ZEC: put share nonce 481
06:19:56:098 75c ZEC round found 1 shares
06:19:56:113 1328 ZEC: 11/20/16-06:19:56 - SHARE FOUND - (GPU 0)
06:19:56:113 1328 send share: {"id": 4, "method": "mining.submit", "params":
[quote][quote][quote][/quote][/quote][/quote]["my adress","3ad6a41e4ee516cccde8","7a323158","810400000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000","fd4005001c8b0d790f8123
06:19:56:144 1328 got 23 bytes
06:19:56:144 1328 buf: {"id":4,"result":true}
06:19:56:144 1328 parse packet: 22
06:19:56:144 1328 ZEC: Share accepted (31 ms)!
06:19:56:144 1328 new buf size: 0
06:19:56:238 10a8 GPU0 t=60C fan=70%, GPU1 t=53C fan=70%, GPU2 t=42C fan=70%
06:19:56:238 10a8 em hbt: 0, fm hbt: 94,
06:19:56:238 10a8 watchdog - thread 0, hb time 16
06:19:56:238 10a8 watchdog - thread 1, hb time 78
06:19:56:238 10a8 watchdog - thread 2, hb time 47
06:19:56:238 10a8 watchdog - thread 3, hb time 109
06:19:56:238 10a8 watchdog - thread 4, hb time 94
06:19:56:238 10a8 watchdog - thread 5, hb time 31
06:19:56:238 10a8 watchdog - thread 6, hb time 63
06:19:56:238 10a8 watchdog - thread 7, hb time 125
06:19:56:238 10a8 watchdog - thread 8, hb time 60607
06:19:56:238 10a8 WATCHDOG: GPU 2 hangs in OpenCL call, exit
06:19:56:238 10a8 watchdog - thread 9, hb time 60638
06:19:56:238 10a8 WATCHDOG: GPU 2 hangs in OpenCL call, exit
06:19:56:238 10a8 watchdog - thread 10, hb time 60700
06:19:56:238 10a8 WATCHDOG: GPU 2 hangs in OpenCL call, exit
06:19:56:238 10a8 watchdog - thread 11, hb time 60669
06:19:56:238 10a8 WATCHDOG: GPU 2 hangs in OpenCL call, exit
06:19:57:268 10a8 Restarting OK, exit..
Im mining with: PC ---- mb: MSI Z97 G55 / CPU: i7 4790K / 12GB Kingston hyperX1600 Mhz ram / Win 7 pro 64bit 3x MSI R9 390 gaming 8 GB (no bios modding) each getting 232-236 H/s stable OC Settings with Grimson v16.10.3: GPU clock: +10% = 1144 Mhz Power limit: +10% Memory clock: 1650 Mhz I would like to ask what is my problem. The rig gets restarted in about 12-16 hours. I see that GPU2 is hashing 0 but i use the same settings on another rig with 390s and there is no such a problem. Many thanks for any advice.... Bad riser or virtual memory that isn't standing on minimum 16gb I suggest stress testing your cards. I have lost a few sins this started. i use this. http://clgpustress.nativeboinc.org/ |
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November 20, 2016, 07:36:00 PM |
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Having on my 390X Sapphire Nitro 240-243 H/s. But always 1 rejected hash  The rejected share comes after a block is found. |
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November 20, 2016, 07:42:27 PM |
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if your 390 hashes 0, lower your core clock, its overclocked too much. Some can be clocked higher, some not. probably if it was connected to a screen you would start seeing artifacts and stuff
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vapourminer
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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?
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November 20, 2016, 07:59:41 PM |
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GPU clock: +10% = 1144 Mhz
Power limit: +10%
Memory clock: 1650 Mhz
I would like to ask what is my problem. The rig gets restarted in about 12-16 hours. I see that GPU2 is hashing 0 but i use the same settings on another rig with 390s and there is no such a problem.
i would back down the clock to 1100 and see what happens. tried my two 390s @ 1140 (stock is 1040) and after 6+ hours the rig would reboot. |
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mettalmag
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November 20, 2016, 08:34:31 PM |
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I know this had been discussed a lot, but can someone clarify to me one more time why my rigs hashrate is less on coinmine.pl then the real hashrate miner shows ?
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kev7112001
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November 20, 2016, 08:36:21 PM |
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if your pc is rebooting thats a psu issue or the driver is crashing and bsoding win so either u need a better psu or downclock card or up volts to make oc stable
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November 20, 2016, 08:38:19 PM |
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I know this had been discussed a lot, but can someone clarify to me one more time why my rigs hashrate is less on coinmine.pl then the real hashrate miner shows ?
because pool determines your speed by shares submitted and pools always fluctuate so 1 sec u might be way higher than u have next lower but usually it avg the same |
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Assaro
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November 20, 2016, 08:47:51 PM |
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many thanks for all your advices.. i clocked down the core to 1436 Mhz (+9,5%) - Eth was stable with +11% but nwm, let try it.... Zcash is another story  and i settet up the 16GB virtual memmory, i could swear that it was set up before, but it wasnt (my fault) - based on your advices i checked it and was surprised... Now i will just w8 what happens if the miner or the whole rig restarts or not... Will inform after some time of testing.... Thanks 1more time for your help.... |
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November 20, 2016, 08:54:11 PM |
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I know this had been discussed a lot, but can someone clarify to me one more time why my rigs hashrate is less on coinmine.pl then the real hashrate miner shows ?
because pool determines your speed by shares submitted and pools always fluctuate so 1 sec u might be way higher than u have next lower but usually it avg the same Thanks now I kinda got it... What will be the avg speed of RX480 8G ? |
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November 20, 2016, 09:04:49 PM |
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I know this had been discussed a lot, but can someone clarify to me one more time why my rigs hashrate is less on coinmine.pl then the real hashrate miner shows ?
because pool determines your speed by shares submitted and pools always fluctuate so 1 sec u might be way higher than u have next lower but usually it avg the same Thanks now I kinda got it... What will be the avg speed of RX480 8G ? 175-180 H/s |
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November 20, 2016, 09:10:32 PM |
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I know this had been discussed a lot, but can someone clarify to me one more time why my rigs hashrate is less on coinmine.pl then the real hashrate miner shows ?
Think of the local hash-rate displayed by your miner in the same way as you would your optimistic MPG readout on your car. Say you have 1 gallon of gas left in your tank, your car's readout is showing you are getting 30 MPG and the nearest gas-station is only 25 miles away. According to the local readout your should be fine as you only need to go 25 miles not 30. However, the car's computer does not see the big hill you have to climb in order to get to the gas station, and that hill will temporarily drop your average down to 15 MPG, meaning you will only be able to drive 22 miles before running out of gas. So if you turn your mind-set around a little and view the pool as the real hash-rate, and what your miner displays more like that car readout, you will be more likely to have better results as the pool takes into account real world factors such as stales, latency, bad (or good) luck, pool maintenance, etc. |
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mettalmag
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November 20, 2016, 09:16:00 PM |
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I know this had been discussed a lot, but can someone clarify to me one more time why my rigs hashrate is less on coinmine.pl then the real hashrate miner shows ?
Think of the local hash-rate displayed by your miner in the same way as you would your optimistic MPG readout on your car. Say you have 1 gallon of gas left in your tank, your car's readout is showing you are getting 30 MPG and the nearest gas-station is only 25 miles away. According to the local readout your should be fine as you only need to go 25 miles not 30. However, the car's computer does not see the big hill you have to climb in order to get to the gas station, and that hill will temporarily drop your average down to 15 MPG, meaning you will only be able to drive 22 miles before running out of gas. So if you turn your mind-set around a little and view the pool as the real hash-rate, and what your miner displays more like that car readout, you will be more likely to have better results as the pool takes into account real world factors such as stales, latency, bad (or good) luck, pool maintenance, etc. now it makes more sense, thank you! I know this had been discussed a lot, but can someone clarify to me one more time why my rigs hashrate is less on coinmine.pl then the real hashrate miner shows ?
because pool determines your speed by shares submitted and pools always fluctuate so 1 sec u might be way higher than u have next lower but usually it avg the same Thanks now I kinda got it... What will be the avg speed of RX480 8G ? 175-180 H/s RX480 8G reference card gives about 160-165 with no bios mod |
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November 20, 2016, 09:18:57 PM |
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I know this had been discussed a lot, but can someone clarify to me one more time why my rigs hashrate is less on coinmine.pl then the real hashrate miner shows ?
because pool determines your speed by shares submitted and pools always fluctuate so 1 sec u might be way higher than u have next lower but usually it avg the same Thanks now I kinda got it... What will be the avg speed of RX480 8G ? My sapphire Nitro OC + 8GB get around 176s/s stock bios, no OC on performance mode. My MSI Gaming X's (again, stock bios no oc) gets around 162s/s. |
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November 20, 2016, 09:19:32 PM |
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Think of the local hash-rate displayed by your miner in the same way as you would your optimistic MPG readout on your car. Say you have 1 gallon of gas left in your tank, your car's readout is showing you are getting 30 MPG and the nearest gas-station is only 25 miles away. According to the local readout your should be fine as you only need to go 25 miles not 30. However, the car's computer does not see the big hill you have to climb in order to get to the gas station, and that hill will temporarily drop your average down to 15 MPG, meaning you will only be able to drive 22 miles before running out of gas.
So if you turn your mind-set around a little and view the pool as the real hash-rate, and what your miner displays more like that car readout, you will be more likely to have better results as the pool takes into account real world factors such as stales, latency, bad (or good) luck, pool maintenance, etc.
THX for this very good explanation. Too bad that very few people will read it. |
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a7med918
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November 20, 2016, 09:25:46 PM |
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Hello all
Can any one tell us 290x clock and memory settings to get best zec hash rate
Also I want to know 280x setting
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mettalmag
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November 20, 2016, 09:30:43 PM |
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I know this had been discussed a lot, but can someone clarify to me one more time why my rigs hashrate is less on coinmine.pl then the real hashrate miner shows ?
because pool determines your speed by shares submitted and pools always fluctuate so 1 sec u might be way higher than u have next lower but usually it avg the same Thanks now I kinda got it... What will be the avg speed of RX480 8G ? My sapphire Nitro OC + 8GB get around 176s/s stock bios, no OC on performance mode. My MSI Gaming X's (again, stock bios no oc) gets around 162s/s. My bad is that I modded most of my cards for ETH low power mining with avg 29.4mh/s. There are 266 RX480 8Gs to remod for ZCash from that low pow mod, only few are left on their stock bios and those are the ones with the highest hashrate at the moment. I don't know when I'll have to get back to ETH. |
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delle54
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November 20, 2016, 09:37:47 PM |
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There is no profit without work  |
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mettalmag
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November 20, 2016, 09:41:12 PM |
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There is no profit without work I'll just sit back and wait couple days what will happen, then decide what to do |
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