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Author Topic: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com  (Read 3050099 times)
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November 01, 2013, 03:12:33 AM
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Ouch, hard to follow some random wall of text that I didn't bother to read. Apologies in advance.

I cannot seem to get consistent results of more than 490 with my Jupiter. Temps in the long term do not seem to matter much.

I have heard of a enable cores thing, could someone quickly link me to some info on that so I don't have to read through 200 pages of this crap?




---- better yet, if anyone can link me to a consolidated, frequently updated thread specifically about increasing the performance of your Jupiter please PM me. This thread is ridiculous.

==== better still, a sticky with links to firmware downloads, FAQs, and all that!

First thing I would try would be to upgrade to .98 firmware.  I have 2 "marginal" boards that require more than the .7V supplied by firmware levels .95,.96, and .97 to run at close to full speed.  .94 supplies more voltage but over-cooks the VRMs which causes its own problems.  .98 seems to be somewhere in the middle and has allowed my jupiter to run consistently at ~560G over the last 48 hours.

Latest "official" news here:
https://www.kncminer.com/news

Official support page with links to released software here:
https://www.kncminer.com/pages/support
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November 01, 2013, 03:15:33 AM
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Ouch, hard to follow some random wall of text that I didn't bother to read. Apologies in advance.

I cannot seem to get consistent results of more than 490 with my Jupiter. Temps in the long term do not seem to matter much.

I have heard of a enable cores thing, could someone quickly link me to some info on that so I don't have to read through 200 pages of this crap?




---- better yet, if anyone can link me to a consolidated, frequently updated thread specifically about increasing the performance of your Jupiter please PM me. This thread is ridiculous.

==== better still, a sticky with links to firmware downloads, FAQs, and all that!

https://www.kncminer.com/pages/support

and

http://forum.kncminer.com/forum/main-category/hardware/13049-read-me-first-known-issues-slow-performance-dc-dc-problem-bad-core-map-etc
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November 01, 2013, 06:34:33 AM
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Make a Windows GUI front end for p2pool, then maybe computer-illiterate Windows users will use it, which will be good for everyone.

Maybe you could even sell it, since Windows users are often actually used to paying for software and maybe even prefer stuff they paid for to free stuff.

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Not all of us are computer illiterate. I like windows. I also like linux, but find it cumbersome for a great many things that windows is easy on. Both have their strengths and weaknesses. \

NOT having a Windows GUI based p2pool interface is a weakness of that protocol. Because no matter how much the linux and/or Mac fanboys would like this to be untrue, the vast majority of home computers are running windows. Excluding the biggest market out of prejudice or idealism is very akin to shooting yourself in the foot.

I personally like the donationware model for such things. "register for .xx and this nag goes away and I continue development" kind of thing.

Setting up a p2pool on windows is really easy. If it's a struggle then simply ask for help in the P2pool thread, or find a solid pool node and stick with it until you feel happy running a node. I'd even be up for getting as many people running P2Pool nodes as possible on Windows or Linux if they have dedicated hardware laying around.

But really, as with any pool, it's not just as simple as set it up and forget. It's all fine running a node only for yourself and losing money because your cat tripped over a cable or bitcoind crashes and you're away from the server, but just ask any pool operator what happens when anything looks or behaves out of the ordinary in their users minds.

P2pool does and has had windows binaries for a long time now. The front end you speak of is simple a webpage for the stats which multiple people now have tweaked and suited to their own needs with simple html tricks.
Thanks!

In the not too distant future, I'll take you up on that. I have looked into setting up a pool for a little while now, because it interests me, and found it a bit more arcane than I'm ready for. I am not a programmer, but I am good at making programs talk to each other if I have sufficient information to do it. \

Pools in general seem to be kind of a jealously guarded "old boys club" on bitcointalk. If you ask or search for a setup guide, you usually find "if you don't know how to do it, you probably shouldn't do it". Which while it might be valid advice in many cases, is completely unhelpful. I can learn. I ran a multi line multitasking BBS under DOS 6.22 when told that it couldn't be done, and the only programming I did was extended batch language. Given resources, this Biomech can do some shit Smiley

However, I was mostly replying to the snarky comment. Thanks again for your non snarky reply!
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November 01, 2013, 06:46:59 AM
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If you think "that who gets the reward for a block, and who "solves" it are two different questions", then I am certain you do not comprehend that even in pool "mining" there must be an entity to receive the reward, what is not the pool participant. The reward needs to be transmitted (first transaction) to the entity which "solves" the block. You are failing to understand that the receiver (thus the "solver") it is not the pool participant.

That is not a correct statement.   p2pool and eligius are evidence of that.

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November 01, 2013, 09:17:28 AM
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Thought Id post this here; DrHaribo is giving away a Jupiter:
https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=321629.0

All you have to do is mine at bitminter and get lucky (the more hashrate you have, the less luck you need).
Since bitminter is lower fee than btcguild (1% vs 3% for PPLNS) and btcguild is getting as big Deepbit once was, this might be a good time to point your miners there.
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November 01, 2013, 09:56:54 AM
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I am mining on BitMinter in that race, but I am also giving some of my mining time to a small pool (the way BitMinter used to be).
This small pool is https://give-me-coins.com/
Its merged-mined BTC sub-pool is at 6THs right now, 0% fees, and they still have one bounty left for the next BTC block finder of 0% fees for life + 1BTC reward. The other sub-pools they operate are LTC and FTC, so if you still GPU-mine those, you can have everything in one dashboard.

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November 01, 2013, 10:20:56 AM
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I am mining on BitMinter in that race, but I am also giving some of my mining time to a small pool (the way BitMinter used to be).
This small pool is https://give-me-coins.com/
Its merged-mined BTC sub-pool is at 6THs right now, 0% fees, and they still have one bounty left for the next BTC block finder of 0% fees for life + 1BTC reward. The other sub-pools they operate are LTC and FTC, so if you still GPU-mine those, you can have everything in one dashboard.

I will give them a try, it's the second time someone use them as an example of well crafted small minig pool.

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November 01, 2013, 12:27:29 PM
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any jupiter owners running .98 notice that the hashrate is highest when you do a poweroff cycle and reboot, it will hit 565-575gh/s at the pool and then after running for a while the pool listed hash rate will get progressively lower, i dip at 490gh/s

any idea why this is?


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November 01, 2013, 01:11:31 PM
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If you think "that who gets the reward for a block, and who "solves" it are two different questions", then I am certain you do not comprehend that even in pool "mining" there must be an entity to receive the reward, what is not the pool participant. The reward needs to be transmitted (first transaction) to the entity which "solves" the block. You are failing to understand that the receiver (thus the "solver") it is not the pool participant.

That is not a correct statement.   p2pool and eligius are evidence of that.


The pool creates a coinbase entry assigning the block reward to itself.  When the block is solved, by whichever pool member submits a share of sufficiently high difficulty, that solution is transmitted along with the filled-in coinbase.  Once accepted onto the blockchain, the mined BTC and fees are sent to the address that the pool assigned as the receiver in their coinbase entry.

if you are solo mining, you are creating a coinbase with your own wallet ID in it specifying where the reward goes (into your wallet) when you submit a block solution.
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November 01, 2013, 01:14:19 PM
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any jupiter owners running .98 notice that the hashrate is highest when you do a poweroff cycle and reboot, it will hit 565-575gh/s at the pool and then after running for a while the pool listed hash rate will get progressively lower, i dip at 490gh/s

any idea why this is?



This is exactly what happens to mine, maybe even lower, 470, 460... no idea why  Huh

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November 01, 2013, 01:26:27 PM
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any jupiter owners running .98 notice that the hashrate is highest when you do a poweroff cycle and reboot, it will hit 565-575gh/s at the pool and then after running for a while the pool listed hash rate will get progressively lower, i dip at 490gh/s

any idea why this is?



This is exactly what happens to mine, maybe even lower, 470, 460... no idea why  Huh

I don't seem to have this issue w/ my jup running .98.

http://imgur.com/TrW6zoo


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November 01, 2013, 02:08:06 PM
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any jupiter owners running .98 notice that the hashrate is highest when you do a poweroff cycle and reboot, it will hit 565-575gh/s at the pool and then after running for a while the pool listed hash rate will get progressively lower, i dip at 490gh/s

any idea why this is?



I am noticing the same problem.
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November 01, 2013, 02:11:29 PM
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any jupiter owners running .98 notice that the hashrate is highest when you do a poweroff cycle and reboot, it will hit 565-575gh/s at the pool and then after running for a while the pool listed hash rate will get progressively lower, i dip at 490gh/s

any idea why this is?



I am noticing the same problem.

glad to know im not the only one, im just doing a manual reboot every time the hash rate dips too low.

im running my jupiter at btc guild, 2.5% error rate and core temps: 53, 63, 55.5 and 52.5.

anyone have a fix? Smiley

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November 01, 2013, 02:13:54 PM
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Two days in and 13 mill shares, bags covering 3/4 of the heat sinks still working great:


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November 01, 2013, 02:31:17 PM
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Two days in and 13 mill shares, bags covering 3/4 of the heat sinks still working great:


whats your temp readings?

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November 01, 2013, 02:37:23 PM
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If you think "that who gets the reward for a block, and who "solves" it are two different questions", then I am certain you do not comprehend that even in pool "mining" there must be an entity to receive the reward, what is not the pool participant. The reward needs to be transmitted (first transaction) to the entity which "solves" the block. You are failing to understand that the receiver (thus the "solver") it is not the pool participant.

That is not a correct statement.   p2pool and eligius are evidence of that.


The pool creates a coinbase entry assigning the block reward to itself.  When the block is solved, by whichever pool member submits a share of sufficiently high difficulty, that solution is transmitted along with the filled-in coinbase.  Once accepted onto the blockchain, the mined BTC and fees are sent to the address that the pool assigned as the receiver in their coinbase entry.

if you are solo mining, you are creating a coinbase with your own wallet ID in it specifying where the reward goes (into your wallet) when you submit a block solution.

P2Pool and Eligius don't do that.  The coinbase transaction has outputs for every miner that will get paid, and a share of the payment goes to each miner as a 'mined' transaction.

The piece highlighted in green is the part Mr. Augusto Croppo refuses to understand.  He is trying to redefine "solving" a block as receiving the block reward, which to any reasonable person is clearly a different thing.  It is analogous to redefining 'work' as 'getting a paycheck'.  One would hope that the latter would accompany the former, but it is clearly inaccurate to say they are the same thing.




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November 01, 2013, 02:52:59 PM
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Two days in and 13 mill shares, bags covering 3/4 of the heat sinks still working great:


whats your temp readings?

mid-40s shockingly, and I won't risk any further increase, except maybe putting the case on with no bags or fans. Too much chance of a really warm day ruining my miner. I think they should consider downsizing the heatsinks for sure.
Happy with the current performance, as it is way over the 200 promised.

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November 01, 2013, 03:12:38 PM
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The pool provides you with a block header to work on.  You double-hash the block header iteratively while incrementing the nonce, and return any results that are of higher difficulty than the pool difficulty to the pool.  If one of those results happens to also be higher difficulty than the network difficulty, you have solved the block for the pool.  The pool does not do any of the calculations associated with solving a block, so I don't see how you think the pool "solved" the block.

Yeah, but guess who got the 25 BTC + fees?

augusto, seems like you have now conceded that he did indeed FIND the block, BUT now are asking about payout in regards to the block, totally different subject.
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November 01, 2013, 04:11:21 PM
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 The apropos of "capitalism" does not change...capitalism does not imply fairness.  It only implies the ability of capital to be brought to bear in a market unfettered by forces outside that market.  The market itself then shapes the effectiveness of that capital depending on the conditions at play at that time.

You need to wake up on your fantasy about unfettered capitalism...  so Avalon renegging on sending chips to groupbuys and sending them to someone else is 'unfettered capitalism' or rather cronyism/fraud ?

Rule of Law & Contracts are respected in 'unfettered capitalism' which has eroded

A free-for-all is not a free market


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November 01, 2013, 04:14:27 PM
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Two days in and 13 mill shares, bags covering 3/4 of the heat sinks still working great:

Can't bring myself to make them HOTTER... just.. can't.. do.. it...

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