Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com

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    Neptune
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Neptune is our first 20nm product and will be shipping in Q1/Q2 of 2014.
The stats and performance that we can release today are
Minimum 3000GH/s of hashing speed that 3TH Over 5 times the speed of our first Jupiter release
   (we reserve the right to increase this as we get closer to shipment)
A 30% reduction in watts per GH
Based on the existing Jupiter design (See photo, however this may change as development progresses)
Shipment begins in Q1/Q2 of 2014
Bitcoins first ever 20nm miner bought to you form the company who shipped the first 28nm bitcoin miner
Limited batch of 1200 units,
Payment for this product is bitcoins and bank transfer only.
These boxes will ship 3-4 weeks after the first batch
All refunds will be refunded in dollars and you can refund up to shipment
$ 12,995.00
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[Biffa]

I must have missed something.....   Can someone direct me to where it was stated that the Neptune deliveries would be separated in "Batches"?  Just because there was an order gap, and price difference between Noobs & old customers, means nothing towards delivery time except we ordered first, and therefore get ours first... as far as I see...   I cannot find anything to support the theory there would be some kind of gap between deliveries...   remember last batch?

https://www.kncminer.com/products/neptune

Beatcha! and mine had bullet points neener

[xstr8guy]

I must have missed something.....   Can someone direct me to where it was stated that the Neptune deliveries would be separated in "Batches"?  Just because there was an order gap, and price difference between Noobs & old customers, means nothing towards delivery time except we ordered first, and therefore get ours first... as far as I see...   I cannot find anything to support the theory there would be some kind of gap between deliveries...   remember last batch?

https://www.kncminer.com/products/neptune

Beatcha! and mine had bullet points neener

I blame it on my iPhone!

[ASIC-K]

time to get old man glasses Phoenix! lol

[xstr8guy]

I must have missed something.....   Can someone direct me to where it was stated that the Neptune deliveries would be separated in "Batches"?  Just because there was an order gap, and price difference between Noobs & old customers, means nothing towards delivery time as far as I see...   I cannot find anything to support that theory.

not batches per say, but on the site it does state the 13k price orders will come 3-4 weeks after first "batch" orders.

It actually does say "batch"

- Limited batch of 1200 units,

-These boxes will ship 3-4 weeks after the first Neptune Batch

[Biffa]

I must have missed something.....   Can someone direct me to where it was stated that the Neptune deliveries would be separated in "Batches"?  Just because there was an order gap, and price difference between Noobs & old customers, means nothing towards delivery time as far as I see...   I cannot find anything to support that theory.

not batches per say, but on the site it does state the 13k price orders will come 3-4 weeks after first "batch" orders.

It actually does say "batch"

- Limited batch of 1200 units,

-These boxes will ship 3-4 weeks after the first Neptune Batch

Guess that'll be a batch then  

Think Phoenix1969 (young whippersnapper) is probably starting to go loopy without his Jupiters and Saturns to keep him company. Tweaking these things keeps you DAMN SHARP I tell ya!   

[Xian01]

I must have missed something.....   Can someone direct me to where it was stated that the Neptune deliveries would be separated in "Batches"?  Just because there was an order gap, and price difference between Noobs & old customers, means nothing towards delivery time as far as I see...   I cannot find anything to support that theory.

not batches per say, but on the site it does state the 13k price orders will come 3-4 weeks after first "batch" orders.

 All the more reason for new customers of KNC not to purchase this item at $13k.

[Phoenix1969]

THANKS GUYS...see it... blind this morning....lol

[Crypto_Cumbrian]

I must have missed something.....   Can someone direct me to where it was stated that the Neptune deliveries would be separated in "Batches"?  Just because there was an order gap, and price difference between Noobs & old customers, means nothing towards delivery time except we ordered first, and therefore get ours first... as far as I see...   I cannot find anything to support the theory there would be some kind of gap between deliveries...   remember last batch?

So are they rewarding their original customers with a discount and a few week of mining exclusivity or is it going to take 4 weeks of production to get the first batch out of the door.

[Biffa]

I must have missed something.....   Can someone direct me to where it was stated that the Neptune deliveries would be separated in "Batches"?  Just because there was an order gap, and price difference between Noobs & old customers, means nothing towards delivery time except we ordered first, and therefore get ours first... as far as I see...   I cannot find anything to support the theory there would be some kind of gap between deliveries...   remember last batch?

So are they rewarding their original customers with a discount and a few week of mining exclusivity or is it going to take 4 weeks of production to get the first batch out of the door.

Both?

[tdcooper99]

I do think paying 3k more $ for being a first time customer is totally OK. What is really hard to understand is paying 3k$ more AND being delivered 1 month AFTER the 1st batch, which will be hashing by then, sky-rocketing the difficulty.

... <editted to reduce size> ...

To sum it up, first time customers have a 3k$ discount AND a 11K to 15K $ guaranteed added profit, at current BTC price.
So a total of 14 to 18K $ gain, but most probably much more.

I guess if the only difference between me and the first batch guys is profit, then I'm semi-ok with that.  KnC can do what they want with their business...  and customers can vote with their wallets and either buy or not.  There's no "fair" per se...  business is business...  and it would seem they are attracting the customers regardless, so who can fault that?  Bottom line is...  if it all goes tits up (in all the ways that have been discussed at length here), then the 10k customers are pretty much just as fucked as me  ...  except I am a few more $$$ in the hole.  What the hell... My risk to take, and I'm in this thing with my eyes wide open.

[davewr2013]

i cant find seller for psu evga 1300w no one sell   
amazon dont have stock

i can recommend you the Corsair AX1200(i)

Coolermaster V1000 works on my older Jupiter.

No luck with Seasonic Platinum.

[SirWizz]

Is it just me or their "Stockholm pickup" is no longer an option for shipping?

[Syke]

https://www.kncminer.com/pages/payment

In the end we have decided to open up to allow PayPal payments as well. The main reason for this was to allow people to enter the market. Rather than to only cater for people who have managed to trade or mine the appropriate amount of coins already.

Why did they stop accepting PayPal/CC? Having a payment method with some consumer protection was nice while it lasted.

[sickpig]

https://www.kncminer.com/pages/payment

In the end we have decided to open up to allow PayPal payments as well. The main reason for this was to allow people to enter the market. Rather than to only cater for people who have managed to trade or mine the appropriate amount of coins already.

Why did they stop accepting PayPal/CC? Having a payment method with some consumer protection was nice while it lasted.

dunno.

speaking of paypal, this is still present in their payment section:

In the end we have decided to open up to allow PayPal payments as well. The main reason for this was to allow people to enter the market.

On the CC side the only thing I can say is I can't understand why they changed their mind so quickly.

Back in September they said "we are the first Bitcoin mining manufacturer to offer secure payments directly by credit card", and more to the point we all know about Orama's endorsement of secured payment. It was stickyed in the main page of "Custom Hardware" board for quite a while.

Another thing that I've found strange was the trick that you had to play if you wanted to chose bank transfer as payment method for the first neptune batch.

[agibby5]

I'm pretty upset as a previous customer that I didn't get any notification of the first Neptune batch. I've emailed them about that and they just replied that the second batch is open and available to purchase.  Great customer service, right?  Anyone else in the same boat?

[Sitarow]

https://www.kncminer.com/pages/payment

In the end we have decided to open up to allow PayPal payments as well. The main reason for this was to allow people to enter the market. Rather than to only cater for people who have managed to trade or mine the appropriate amount of coins already.

Why did they stop accepting PayPal/CC? Having a payment method with some consumer protection was nice while it lasted.

This may have been for the first gen asic's
However now that they are proven not a scam they do not need the overhead.

one can argue that since people are buying up units at this price leaves little reason to use those payment methods.

[Syke]

This may have been for the first gen asic's
However now that they are proven not a scam they do not need the overhead.

one can argue that since people are buying up units at this price leaves little reason to use those payment methods.

So now instead of "Rather than to only cater for people who have managed to trade or mine the appropriate amount of coins already" it is "To cater only to people who are already our customers." Intersting business model. Seems to be working!

[WastedLTC]

After seeing the batch 2 prices & 3-4 week ship delay, happy I went all in with Batch 1.   My first neptune was 12.4 BTC but when I placed my next order I got 3 neptunes for under 30BTC after shipping!    BTC price rise was a beautiful thing.    I have no doubt each Neptune will mine more than 10 coins each.

Now I pray KNC offers a hosting service so I can dock the 4 of these for a year.

[Minor Miner]

THANKS GUYS...see it... blind this morning....lol

I think that your auction of two machines that have not shipped is actually relevant here since you can tell the forum WHEN you get notification that 1019X has shipped so people can know what to expect since we are obviously not going to see them ship before Nov 30 and KNC is not saying much more than they will all ship by Nov 30, Wednesday, Friday....