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I'm ready for another batch of Jupiters...  I'm ready to see news of Neptunes coming. I hope to see any news coming ... regarding Jupiters and/or Neptune... !  For me it's the same ! 
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btcspender
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January 09, 2014, 05:06:54 PM |
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I just hope we get any announcement either way I have coin waiting for jupiter orders and if they announce no jups some coin will go on one or two more neptunes and some spread across other companies. I just want to hear anything from them.
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AussiePete
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January 09, 2014, 05:11:20 PM |
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I hope to see any news coming ... regarding Jupiters and/or Neptune... !  For me it's the same !  [/quote] I'm ready for another batch of Jupiters...  I'm ready to see news of Neptunes coming. ................................................... We would like to state that If any of our competitors continues to add large amounts of hashing power to the network during December, January or February. We will continue to release our devices as competitively priced as we can to protect our customers share of the network. Thanks KnCMiner Team ..................................................................... Dear KNC Neptunes or Jupiters ...I don't mind ....Take my handy bit coins now please ............For this Network Protection Statement to have any credibility , You will need to send me a miner by the 10th of February . Thanks Pete
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January 09, 2014, 05:31:59 PM |
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I can't fathom how some of you are even managing to push the cables to their limit. I run GPUs which each pull more wattage chan the KNC power boards, and they're not getting that hot. Blow a fan across them or something?? My KNC unit's cables don't even get that hot. All my dies run without issue. Are you guys far-overclocking them or something? I'm ready to see news of Neptunes coming.
Give it 3-4 months, you'll get news. Why would you assume you pull more current with GPUs? How much do you think you use?
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Phoenix1969
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January 09, 2014, 05:34:22 PM |
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I am in the minority of the market as a #1 Small Investor who wanted to re-invest, but unfortunately does not have the ability to host the latest KNC miners without moving or finding an outside hosting solution which stinks because KNC actually did deliver and really the rest of the mining companies are very risky compared to KNC miner in my opinion.
I really hope they release the Jupiters but I can also see them just focusing on the Neptune and attempting to release it earlier than expected, that would really keep groups #'s 2 & 3 as long term buyers.
A hosted solution is going to be pretty much inevitable within six months I reckon because either you'll want a second machine to keep up the earnings, or the next development increment will simply melt a residential property power circuit, so I figured I may as well bite the bullet and start looking around for hosting now. If we're sensible and community minded, people will band together and group buy a data centre and host themselves at cost. But because we're all solitary and selfish we won't, but hey - it'll just be part of the cost of doing Bitcoin business. The team at - www.redstarmining.com - are looking into starting a data centre to host Neptunes in the Mid West United States. Due to cheap electricity and no import VAT at 20% like all EU miners currently have to pay. We've started this thread to see what kind of interest there is - https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=383544.msg4125801#msg4125801Careful Mat.... Fincen just mentioned hosting indirectly... "Money transmitters" just a heads up...you might want to read their latest announcement.....and I don't mean just the headline....hehe
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Phoenix1969
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January 09, 2014, 05:36:53 PM |
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I hope to see any news coming ... regarding Jupiters and/or Neptune... !  For me it's the same !  I'm ready for another batch of Jupiters...  I'm ready to see news of Neptunes coming. ................................................... We would like to state that If any of our competitors continues to add large amounts of hashing power to the network during December, January or February. We will continue to release our devices as competitively priced as we can to protect our customers share of the network. Thanks KnCMiner Team ..................................................................... Dear KNC Neptunes or Jupiters ...I don't mind ....Take my handy bit coins now please ............For this Network Protection Statement to have any credibility , You will need to send me a miner by the 10th of February . Thanks Pete [/quote] Neptunes are still for sale btw.... ! Yep I have Hopium on Jupiter 
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January 09, 2014, 05:58:15 PM |
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OK, Guys,
I have serious, horrible luck. I have (I know, not smart) cashed out all my BTC. All coins I was keeping handy for a re-release of jupiter is gone. Now that I cant pay BTC for one or two, my rotten luck says you guys who have coins ready will be able to buy. Good luck.
If the timing of my coin sale helped you get a Jupiter (LOL), Please use my link if you dont have your own.
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Paladin69
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January 09, 2014, 06:10:11 PM |
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I'm beginning to think the Jupiter's aren't going to launch. Every time I talk to KNC they make it sound like they still have no plans and they make it sound like the Neptune is coming first.
I think the amount of people wanting to cancel their Neptune's for more Jupiter's is quite high and they might be questioning themselves now.
People aren't stupid. The difficulty is going to run away from everyone. KNC is going to obliterate the diff once again like they did last year and people want to mine now rather than wait.
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matthewh3
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January 09, 2014, 06:20:43 PM |
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I am in the minority of the market as a #1 Small Investor who wanted to re-invest, but unfortunately does not have the ability to host the latest KNC miners without moving or finding an outside hosting solution which stinks because KNC actually did deliver and really the rest of the mining companies are very risky compared to KNC miner in my opinion.
I really hope they release the Jupiters but I can also see them just focusing on the Neptune and attempting to release it earlier than expected, that would really keep groups #'s 2 & 3 as long term buyers.
A hosted solution is going to be pretty much inevitable within six months I reckon because either you'll want a second machine to keep up the earnings, or the next development increment will simply melt a residential property power circuit, so I figured I may as well bite the bullet and start looking around for hosting now. If we're sensible and community minded, people will band together and group buy a data centre and host themselves at cost. But because we're all solitary and selfish we won't, but hey - it'll just be part of the cost of doing Bitcoin business. The team at - www.redstarmining.com - are looking into starting a data centre to host Neptunes in the Mid West United States. Due to cheap electricity and no import VAT at 20% like all EU miners currently have to pay. We've started this thread to see what kind of interest there is - https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=383544.msg4125801#msg4125801Careful Mat.... Fincen just mentioned hosting indirectly... "Money transmitters" just a heads up...you might want to read their latest announcement.....and I don't mean just the headline....hehe The world has more than one major economic block now and the deepnet is getting deeper too if RSM has to say goodbye to US shareholders. As for the datacentre it's just that and not a farm or anything else. Customers will pay for rackspace and nothing more. Edit: Worst case scenario for RSM is for the cooperative to end the public trading of shares which are currently done in Hong Kong. As a private cooperative of individuals we can continue RSM's 90% reinvestment privately.
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January 09, 2014, 06:25:29 PM |
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I can't fathom how some of you are even managing to push the cables to their limit. I run GPUs which each pull more wattage chan the KNC power boards, and they're not getting that hot. Blow a fan across them or something?? My KNC unit's cables don't even get that hot. All my dies run without issue. Are you guys far-overclocking them or something? I'm ready to see news of Neptunes coming.
Give it 3-4 months, you'll get news. Why would you assume you pull more current with GPUs? How much do you think you use? I have GPUs pulling 350-360watts (29-30amps). I wasn't under the impression that the KNC modules were pulling that. I could be mistaken.
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pedrosoft
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January 09, 2014, 07:00:12 PM |
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ok all our questions could be answered by Bitcoinorama !  Drin ... Drin .... Bitcoinorama ... are you here ?  He is actually on now, but no posts from him for 3 days. 'Orama.....we see you!!  when Bitcoinorama is not here from 2 days or more... usually means that something is going to happen... 
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January 09, 2014, 07:15:16 PM |
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I'm beginning to think the Jupiter's aren't going to launch. Every time I talk to KNC they make it sound like they still have no plans and they make it sound like the Neptune is coming first.
I think the amount of people wanting to cancel their Neptune's for more Jupiter's is quite high and they might be questioning themselves now.
People aren't stupid. The difficulty is going to run away from everyone. KNC is going to obliterate the diff once again like they did last year and people want to mine now rather than wait.
I beleive also when KNC announced that they were going to sell new Jupiters and the reason for saying keep your coins handy, was sort of saying to us don't refund but save up some coins to buy Jupiters. otherwise their statement would of been get ready to refund Neptunes to buy Jupiters. I think KNC had all good intentions to help us protect our part of the network but to many idiots fucked it for us. And I don't think saying, oh I just wanted refund because of power concerns. one we knew the approx power consumption was going to be high, and two these refunds suddenly began after the announcement of new Jupiter being offered.
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January 09, 2014, 07:19:39 PM |
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ok all our questions could be answered by Bitcoinorama !  Drin ... Drin .... Bitcoinorama ... are you here ?  He is actually on now, but no posts from him for 3 days. 'Orama.....we see you!!  He could be at CES?
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matthewh3
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January 09, 2014, 07:20:26 PM |
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I don't believe KNC would offer any more Jupiter's (from stock) until some very promising Neptune development news first. If they're are to offer any at all. So as not to hurt Neptune pre-orders or cause a mass exodus of Neptune refunds. Which started to happen when they first mentioned a Jupiter batch #3.
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Paladin69
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January 09, 2014, 07:59:59 PM |
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I don't believe KNC would offer any more Jupiter's (from stock) until some very promising Neptune development news first. If they're are to offer any at all. So as not to hurt Neptune pre-orders or cause a mass exodus of Neptune refunds. Which started to happen when they first mentioned a Jupiter batch #3.
How excited for the Neptune are you guys, really? Especially you General Release folks? Pre-release batch will do okay for the first or second difficulty change and then the whole thing falls apart again. But I still think people will be worse off than had they not traded in their Oct & Nov Jupiter's. Mining now is so much more important. People look to the change from CPU to GPU but I don't think it is a good comparison. GPU settled and slowed down when BTC wasn't worth anything. This is a different ball game now. People are just going to keep piling in. I see no reason why they wouldn't.
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matthewh3
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January 09, 2014, 08:18:58 PM |
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I don't believe KNC would offer any more Jupiter's (from stock) until some very promising Neptune development news first. If they're are to offer any at all. So as not to hurt Neptune pre-orders or cause a mass exodus of Neptune refunds. Which started to happen when they first mentioned a Jupiter batch #3.
How excited for the Neptune are you guys, really? Especially you General Release folks? Pre-release batch will do okay for the first or second difficulty change and then the whole thing falls apart again. But I still think people will be worse off than had they not traded in their Oct & Nov Jupiter's. Mining now is so much more important. People look to the change from CPU to GPU but I don't think it is a good comparison. GPU settled and slowed down when BTC wasn't worth anything. This is a different ball game now. People are just going to keep piling in. I see no reason why they wouldn't. Exponential difficulty growth rise changes can not continue forever at over 1000% every ninety days. The rate of change of growth will start to taper off to start follow Moore's Law over the next year IMO. Unless we rapidly go to >$10K a coin otherwise large miners will be best putting bitcoin into Nuclear Fusion research to keep any decent share of the reward. 56% was the last thirty days difficulty growth according to TGB. It wasn't long ago that single difficulty changes were in that magnitude. Yet the latest difficulty changes have been the largest ever changes.
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January 09, 2014, 08:24:19 PM |
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Dear Miners I am sorry for being off topic here, but I urge everyone who pointed their mining resources at ghash.io give a chance to bitcoin to survive and choose another pool even if it is less attractive than ghash.io. Thank you.
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Xian01
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January 09, 2014, 08:28:16 PM |
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Can someone try to convince me not to order a 3TH unit from Batch 2 ?
I've been evaluating the various options for a while now, and seem to have circled back to KNC based on the following;
- Cointerra's power useage numbers require two circuits for North American homes. If I need two circuits anyway, paying $3k for another 1TH doesn't seem all that off - HashFast is out for obvious reasons - Butterfly Labs is out for obvious reasons - Black Arrow has raised a red flag for me and will not be buying on principle due to customer service issues - Coincraft's pricing does not make sense It would seem that KNCMiner is the horse to bet on at this time.
Am I overlooking something for start of Q2 ? Can't seem to find anything substantial available in a reasonable timeframe for Q1.
Thanks, folks.
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Paladin69
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January 09, 2014, 08:31:36 PM |
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Dear Miners I am sorry for being off topic here, but I urge everyone who pointed their mining resources at ghash.io give a chance to bitcoin to survive and choose another pool even if it is less attractive than ghash.io. Thank you. From what I understand, 51%'ing a network does no harm unless the pool operator has bad intentions.
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Paladin69
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January 09, 2014, 08:35:13 PM |
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Can someone try to convince me not to order a 3TH unit from Batch 2 ?
I've been evaluating the various options for a while now, and seem to have circled back to KNC based on the following;
- Cointerra's power useage numbers require two circuits for North American homes. If I need two circuits anyway, paying $3k for another 1TH doesn't seem all that off - HashFast is out for obvious reasons - Butterfly Labs is out for obvious reasons - Black Arrow has raised a red flag for me and will not be buying on principle due to customer service issues - Coincraft's pricing does not make sense It would seem that KNCMiner is the horse to bet on at this time.
Am I overlooking something for start of Q2 ? Can't seem to find anything substantial available in a reasonable timeframe for Q1.
Thanks, folks.
Technically BFL is shipping from stock. Although $1000 for 60GH is a huge rip off IMO. Why does Black Arrow throw red flags? Enough people have complained about power consumption. KnC should just split their Neptune into two $5K units IMO.
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