Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com

[The Avenger]

Having seen how sexy the HF and CT cases are, a really interesting on-topic discussion would be the neptune case design? No one has mentioned that yet.

I'm sure knc would appreciate some input at this early stage, way before they start, so they don't go and make the Jupiter mistake again (i.e. front heatsinks blasting hot air into back heatsinks, attaching last minute baffles to lid - a lid which many people leave off)  

Assuming they go for a 4 board design again, what would be your ideal neptune case look like? Air/water/oil? You're paying - might as well tell them what you want 

[lemonte]

Having seen how sexy the HF and CT cases are, a really interesting on-topic discussion would be the neptune case design? No one has even mentioned that yet.

I'm sure knc would appreciate some input at this early stage, way before they start, so they don't go and make the Jupiter mistake again (i.e. front heatsinks blasting hot air into back heatsinks, attaching last minute baffles to lid - a lid which many people leave off)  

Assuming they go for a 4 board design again, what would be your ideal neptune case look like? Air/water/oil?

There were some mock ups on the Kncminer forums a while ago, can't find them now.

I'd like water or oil, easier to build a little cooling system for multiple units rather than buying loads of noisy fans.

[2tights]

Having seen how sexy the HF and CT cases are, a really interesting on-topic discussion would be the neptune case design? No one has mentioned that yet.

I'm sure knc would appreciate some input at this early stage, way before they start, so they don't go and make the Jupiter mistake again (i.e. front heatsinks blasting hot air into back heatsinks, attaching last minute baffles to lid - a lid which many people leave off)  

Assuming they go for a 4 board design again, what would be your ideal neptune case look like? Air/water/oil? You're paying - might as well tell them what you want  

I choose function over form. It would be the ugliest thing ever as long as it mines like a champ.

[The Avenger]

Having seen how sexy the HF and CT cases are, a really interesting on-topic discussion would be the neptune case design? No one has mentioned that yet.

I'm sure knc would appreciate some input at this early stage, way before they start, so they don't go and make the Jupiter mistake again (i.e. front heatsinks blasting hot air into back heatsinks, attaching last minute baffles to lid - a lid which many people leave off)  

Assuming they go for a 4 board design again, what would be your ideal neptune case look like? Air/water/oil? You're paying - might as well tell them what you want  

I choose function over form. It would be the ugliest thing ever as long as it mines like a champ.

People said that about Jupiter - and knc took them at their word

I imagine this time around, people will want something slightly better than 2x 140mm fans to keep $13k machine cool?

[opentoe]

If the day ever come that amazon accepts btc...watch out

not so sure that would be good short term..  if you followed the overstock situation, coinbase turned it into a reverse layaway plan.  They dropped their instant buy from 10btc/week to 1btc/week so if you are trying to shop for anything over ~$80 you will have to wait 5-7 days to buy enough coins from coinbase...  but if you already have 400 coins and want to cash out into items, then that is a lot more selling pressure than buying.

Exactly why coinbase is for total noobs, and children.   Why would one go to coinbase and establish such a bottlekneck?
It's worthless if you are moving large amounts. Nothing beats a real exchange.
The tiered confirmation system there sucks too. I've been confirmed at all the exchanges...no problem; but when I go to get confirmed at coinbase, I always get rejected, because they always try to ask questions from my childhood, and I don't see how their questions could ever be answered; I'ts like they're asking housing questions from when I was 2yrs old, how the fuzz am I supposed to know that? I gave up after a half-dozen attempts over a two week period...   but no worries with those ridiculous limits, I'm totally stoked with Bitstamp and Camp BX

Coinbase is for noobs but you tried to sign up half dozen times over a two week period? I'm verified at Bitstamp and Camp and they're all the same.

[soy]

I doubt home mining is going to be around by the end of the year, though Cointerra and KNC have both been up front about this. Everything in Bitcoin is evolving quickly at the moment, adoption is up, massive advances in mining, I just wish the price would follow suit. Here's hoping that once the China situation which seems to be hanging over everyone like a dark cloud is out of the way, we see the price improving.

I also think it's quickly going to turn into a 2 horse race.

May I ask what you feel the China situation is and what would put it 'out of the way'?  I don't disagree I just don't understand.

If it's anything like printed circuit board manufacturing in the US it doesn't end well.

Clarity, even if it's bad news, reading posts/articles from a Chinese persons perspective and speaking to a few, they too are in the dark with what the guidelines actually mean. I'd like to see volumes kick in and things heading back in the right direction after the 31st, even if that does mean a crash first. Then again, there is the argument that the news is already priced in.

I nod and smile affirmatively.

[soy]

Having seen how sexy the HF and CT cases are, a really interesting on-topic discussion would be the neptune case design? No one has even mentioned that yet.

I'm sure knc would appreciate some input at this early stage, way before they start, so they don't go and make the Jupiter mistake again (i.e. front heatsinks blasting hot air into back heatsinks, attaching last minute baffles to lid - a lid which many people leave off)  

Assuming they go for a 4 board design again, what would be your ideal neptune case look like? Air/water/oil?

There were some mock ups on the Kncminer forums a while ago, can't find them now.

I'd like water or oil, easier to build a little cooling system for multiple units rather than buying loads of noisy fans.

Aye, something that would lend itself to running plumbing thru the wall to the outside where forced air cooling of the ASICs' circulating fluid would be sufficient even when it's 102°F out while the rest of the electronics are at a reasonable room temperature.  Or if the ASICs need to be even cooler, an outside forced air pre-cooler then a second cooling indoors.

[DPoS]

Aye, something that would lend itself to running plumbing thru the wall to the outside where forced air cooling of the ASICs' circulating fluid would be sufficient even when it's 102°F out while the rest of the electronics are at a reasonable room temperature.  Or if the ASICs need to be even cooler, an outside forced air pre-cooler then a second cooling indoors.

if 2 or 3 of these came in a rig that I can heat my pool while cooling off the miners then I might get interested 

[jelin1984]

Please knc make some nice stickers for miners

[The Avenger]

Please knc make some nice stickers for miners

[dominic25]

With respect to the speculation above we sold out of Neptune's last night.

Can you post how many Neptunes are sold in all batches? Just trying to calculate PHs when they eventually come online.

If each batch is 1200 would that be about 1.5 billion difficulty added for all 3 shipped is that right?

Yes, that's about right, (in THs):
https://www.google.rs/search?q=1200+*+3+*+3

10,800 THs = 1,508,742,620 difficulty. That's in case each Neptune is 3 THs, add expected overclocking %.

Edit:
Waiting for Bitcoinorama confirmation there are 3 X 1200 Neptunes sold.

So if they were to ship:

$10k 1200 start of may
$13k 1200 end of may
$10k 1200 batch 2 - june
1200 every month till dec 2014

If they were to ship a batch every month like cointerra plan on doing we would have just the neptunes adding roughly 4.5 billion difficulty by end of 2014. Each batch upping difficulty by 500 million?. wow

edit:
Please note those numbers are extreme speculation don't base any purchases or refunds or any decision on anything I say

Does anyone know who it is that added 363TH to Eligius Pool about two weeks ago?

[The Avenger]

Dear knc

The miners in the knc thread have got together to discuss the neptune case design. Here are our requests:

1. Make it ugly
2. Make sure it can heat a swimming pool, (preferably DPoS's pool)
3. Make sure it comes with nice stickers
4. People can have the Model T Neptune in any color – so long as it's black

Thanks
knc thread on bitcointalk

[opentoe]

I've increased the SPI voltage on my miner to 1.95V (default) all the way up to 2.40V and it hasn't changed in anyway. How do you "overclock" these? I want to just add a little more juice and overlock a "small" bit....but there are only a few voltage selections left.

[soy]

I've increased the SPI voltage on my miner to 1.95V (default) all the way up to 2.40V and it hasn't changed in anyway. How do you "overclock" these? I want to just add a little more juice and overlock a "small" bit....but there are only a few voltage selections left.

Misnomer - not overclocked, additional modules added beyond 4.

[Easy2Mine]

Anyone know how to remotely setup and login to a Jupiter?

[jelin1984]

Also I prefer to have color black 

[Paladin69]

How long would you guys be willing to pay for a 675GH Jupiter @ $2250?  What month would be your cut off point?

That is essentially how much a $10K Neptune breaks down in value @ 3TH.  Man $13K sounds like such a bad deal.  That would be $2925 for a 675GH Jupiter...in Q2?

[Syke]

How long would you guys be willing to pay for a 675GH Jupiter @ $2250?  What month would be your cut off point?

That is essentially how much a $10K Neptune breaks down in value @ 3TH.  Man $13K sounds like such a bad deal.  That would be $2925 for a 675GH Jupiter...in Q2?

By the beginning of Q2 $2000 is already too expensive. By late-Q2 it'll be horrible.

[xstr8guy]

Dear knc

The miners in the knc thread have got together to discuss the neptune case design. Here are our requests:

1. Make it ugly
2. Make sure it can heat a swimming pool, (preferably DPoS's pool)
3. Make sure it comes with nice stickers
4. People can have the Model T Neptune in any color – so long as it's black

Thanks
knc thread on bitcointalk

I want strobing, seizure-inducing LED fans!   

[Paladin69]

How long would you guys be willing to pay for a 675GH Jupiter @ $2250?  What month would be your cut off point?

That is essentially how much a $10K Neptune breaks down in value @ 3TH.  Man $13K sounds like such a bad deal.  That would be $2925 for a 675GH Jupiter...in Q2?

By the beginning of Q2 $2000 is already too expensive. By late-Q2 it'll be horrible.

This whole thing seems like a really bad deal IMO.  Next diff change is 0.72 per day for 3TH down from 0.84 currently.  And nobody is getting them for a while.

If the law of supply and demand holds true, then it would make more sense to buy $20K worth of BTC now (what the Neptune pre-orders seem to be going for on eBay) before the difficulty runs away from everyone making BTC that much more scarce.  Then we begin another run to the next paradigm jump in the spot price sometime after mining blows up.

I'd guess that March/April is when people will start to figure out how pointless mining is.