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[nutildah]

I always enjoyed the intelligent and diverse input of highly individual crazy people that were buying Bitcoin when everybody laughed at them. Yes the freaks, and I quote, some of God's own prototypes. Some high-powered mutants of some kind never even considered for mass production...

That's what made the WO so special for me. And every step away from that makes me feel sad...

[Gachapin]

Trump seems optimistic about an interest rate decrease from the Fed but I’m not so sure. It is nice to have that on the back burner for bullish catalysts though. Between that, the coming report on digital assets from the White House on Wednesday, Strategy getting into the S&P 500, & the Midnight airdrop, it seems there are a lot of reasons to be happy if you hold BTC.

Do you know when one can claim the airdrop and how much you get for each BTC you own?

Diclaimer:
This is not shitcoin talk. Every sane user here should sell that airdopped shit at some point and buy something nice instead, like BTC

[nutildah]

well it is tough bitcointalk has allowed many poor people not be poor due to signature policy.

So to hate JJG for giving merits to farmers is kind of mean spirited.
...
One could argue the WO hijacked BTC due to hodl hodl hodl hodl mindset.

and now wants to fuck little third worlders out of some small amounts of coin via farming.

Sounds like uptight asshole take the ladder of success away from them mindset.
...

There are hundreds of people (or accounts anyway) that fall into this category and I don't bother them because they don't post trite nothingness in this thread in a lame attempt to get merits. Most aren't so greedy that they are compelled to act dishonestly and they can do their "job" in a comparatively honorable way.

When you use the term "farmer," well really, no one should be farming multiple accounts at all. They are denying opportunity to people who play by the rules by crowding them out when they do stuff like enroll multiple accounts in the same campaign. Most campaign managers frown on this practice for this very reason.

[Gachapin]

[edited out]

yeah, I also prefer to do the 1 smerit thing. So I see that that naturally comes with difficulties when you have a lot to distribute as a merit source.
Sometimes I just thought, and probably users like nutilda as well, "why is JJG meriting this so obviously merit farming account?"
Which might be not so obvious when you have to go through many new accoutns and decide if to merit

It seems to me that nutildah likes to be a bit of a drama queen, and perhaps even thinking that "he's got it all figured out," and sure, perhaps there are advantages to publicly calling out matters rather than trying to go about it in some kind of a less public and/or diplomatic way.

So, yeah, members have rights to "call out" other members publicly instead of reporting (or maybe supplementing their attempts to report such members), yet it seems that he's trying to be too imposing, and yeah, sure maybe it helps for some merit sources to see how nutildah or others might whine about their smerit sending practices, so whatever he is doing is not completely without affects on how some source members might reconsider their smerit sending practices... and you never know, on the margins too, there might be some ways that nutildah complaining might affect some other more credible members to complain and then theymos might decide to take some action to attempt to address the issue as it had been presented.  

Perhaps? perhaps?  or there could be some Streisand effect, too... depending on how matters might evolve. I have frequently thought that part of the solution would be to have more merit source members, yet I doubt that would even resolve the problem that nutildah is trying to get at and for some reason he thinks that ongoing whining about me might someday have more benefits rather than disadvantages.. .. .since surely there are some members who agree with his position, so it is not like his fantasy ideas are completely without support... and sure ever once in a while I like to call him a dweeb or to tell him to fuck off, but if I were to only stay with that kind of a response, then some members might start to agree with him more because they believe that I am required to make some kind of a further explanation in regards to his ongoing and fairly regular inflammatory attacks implying that I am being abusive or crossing some kind of an imaginary line (that's in his retarded head) that I am being too liberal in my smerit sending and supposedly not engaging in enough due diligence or whatever.. fantasy requirements he would like to informally impose since theymos is seeming to not inclined to be giving nutildah an smerit Czar position (at least not so far, lucky us (meaning the forum))..

I think instead of focusing on the way somebody complains and the affect it might have or not, it's more important to find out the reason why people feel the urge to complain.

The WO content has changed quite a bit when compared to the time before the merit system.
OGs came here (and some are still here) since 2013-14 for the old style WO, and not for consuming the low IQ copy paste shit of 3rd world merit farmers who need a second income.

And frankly that's also nothing what I like to see in my beloved WO!

I always enjoyed the intelligent and diverse input of highly individual crazy people that were buying Bitcoin when everybody laughed at them. Yes the freaks, and I quote, some of God's own prototypes. Some high-powered mutants of some kind never even considered for mass production...

That's what made the WO so special for me. And every step away from that makes me feel sad...

well it is tough bitcointalk has allowed many poor people not be poor due to signature policy.

So to hate JJG for giving merits to farmers is kind of mean spirited.


Also BTC was p2p not hodl

look how I feel doing p2p and using coins to pay while not doing hodl as a choice.

Look at my signature address it handled 700 coins over 10 years time.

One could argue the WO hijacked BTC due to hodl hodl hodl hodl mindset.

and now wants to fuck little third worlders out of some small amounts of coin via farming.

Sounds like uptight asshole take the ladder of success away from them mindset.

...

You say suck it up, so some poor people with absolutely no interest in conversations about BTC can shitpost here, in order to get some coin?

Why do they have to shitpost here in the first place then?
You can just give them the BTC if you want to help them. Don't destroy part of the WO for it !

Most of these 3rd world farmers have no interest in BTC. They just wanna improve their lives. Why do you let them do this meaningless work (shitposting)?  Sounds like quite some condescending supremacist shit to me...

Worse than some rich guy who is proud of generously giving some poor migrant the "opportunity" to scrub his toilet. I mean that's at least some productive work.  

If you wanna do wannabe virtue signalling do it without destroying things people like.

Same goes for passing coins around... why destroy parts of the WO for that?

Such wannabe moral arguments make no sense, sorry.

[OgNasty]

Trump seems optimistic about an interest rate decrease from the Fed but I’m not so sure. It is nice to have that on the back burner for bullish catalysts though. Between that, the coming report on digital assets from the White House on Wednesday, Strategy getting into the S&P 500, & the Midnight airdrop, it seems there are a lot of reasons to be happy if you hold BTC.

Do you know when one can claim the airdrop and how much you get for each BTC you own?

Diclaimer:
This is not shitcoin talk. Every sane user here should sell that airdopped shit at some point and buy something nice instead, like BTC

What is “known” so far…

The snapshot was taken on June 11th and $NIGHT will be sent to holders of:
• ADA
• BTC
• ETH
• SOL
• XRP
• BNB
• AVAX
• BAT

It is expected to happen in the next 60 days, but no later than 150 days.

It is a native Cardano token and the largest amounts will be airdropped to ADA holders.

You will need a CIP-30 compatible Cardano wallet to claim.

Claim period will be 60 days.

You needed to be holding at least 0.0009071 BTC at an address when the airdrop happened to be eligible.

It claims to add a privacy layer to Bitcoin’s blockchain.

[vapourminer]

well it is tough bitcointalk has allowed many poor people not be poor due to signature policy.

thats not what bitcointalk is for.

you get Not Poor buy learning about bitcoin here and understanding why and how it works .

not by posting garbage for sig campaigns

[Gachapin]

well it is tough bitcointalk has allowed many poor people not be poor due to signature policy.

thats not what bitcointalk is for.

you get Not Poor but learning about bitcoin and understanding why and how it works.

not by posting garbage for sig campaigns

exactly this!

[OgNasty]

well it is tough bitcointalk has allowed many poor people not be poor due to signature policy.

thats not what bitcointalk is for.

you get Not Poor but learning about bitcoin and understanding why and how it works.

not by posting garbage for sig campaigns

exactly this!

I’m with you guys… Bitcointalk should be for learning about Bitcoin and not for spamming to earn more Bitcoin. That being said… If you guys knew how much BTC I’ve earned over the last decade plus of being paid to wear a signature you would be trying to figure out a way to go back in time to put on a signature…

[Gachapin]

Trump seems optimistic about an interest rate decrease from the Fed but I’m not so sure. It is nice to have that on the back burner for bullish catalysts though. Between that, the coming report on digital assets from the White House on Wednesday, Strategy getting into the S&P 500, & the Midnight airdrop, it seems there are a lot of reasons to be happy if you hold BTC.

Do you know when one can claim the airdrop and how much you get for each BTC you own?

Diclaimer:
This is not shitcoin talk. Every sane user here should sell that airdopped shit at some point and buy something nice instead, like BTC

What is “known” so far…

The snapshot was taken on June 11th and $NIGHT will be sent to holders of:
• ADA
• BTC
• ETH
• SOL
• XRP
• BNB
• AVAX
• BAT

It is expected to happen in the next 60 days, but no later than 150 days.

It is a native Cardano token and the largest amounts will be airdropped to ADA holders.

You will need a CIP-30 compatible Cardano wallet to claim.

Claim period will be 60 days.

You needed to be holding at least 0.0009071 BTC at an address when the airdrop happened to be eligible.

It claims to add a privacy layer to Bitcoin’s blockchain.

#

Thanks so much for the info !!!


For everyone who is going to sign a message to claim the airdrop:

Send your coins to another address! Every signature weakens the security of your address!!

[Gachapin]

well it is tough bitcointalk has allowed many poor people not be poor due to signature policy.

thats not what bitcointalk is for.

you get Not Poor but learning about bitcoin and understanding why and how it works.

not by posting garbage for sig campaigns

exactly this!

I’m with you guys… Bitcointalk should be for learning about Bitcoin and not for spamming to earn more Bitcoin. That being said… If you guys knew how much BTC I’ve earned over the last decade plus of being paid to wear a signature you would be trying to figure out a way to go back in time to put on a signature…

Enjoy man !  I have nothing against people getting rewarded for quality content! That's how a working merit system should be!

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation
Chartbuddy thanks talkimg.com

[Liocen]

Here are the Neil Armstrongs of the future. Are everyone here ant or whale? Whose position is it, the Nile or Roe River?

thats not what bitcointalk is for.

you get Not Poor buy learning about bitcoin here and understanding why and how it works .

not by posting garbage for sig campaigns

You can earn a lot of money by stealing, robbing, ohhhh how easy it is to earn by cheating.
So I will earn this way?

But if you earn money this way, you will not sleep at night, because it is illegal.
Those who are weak sig kari and those who write posts only to earn money are like those employees in my office who are only the best in front of the boss. But of course this is cheating.

[WatChe]

I'm wrapping up two solid weeks, actually 15 days of camping... entirely alone. And I know it's not something that everyone could do at this moment of your life here and now... with whatever demands and resource restrictions you are under.

And some of you may have done this before, so I'm not trying to sound like Mr. Smartypants.

You should just do it. It's so good. I'm tired of it now, but that's kind of good, too.Tomorrow I will roll home and see my family, each of whom I love a little bit more than I did when I left.

Just saying, it's worth it.

Maybe it's not camping for you. Maybe it's you rent some little room in some place for a couple weeks. A hostel in Amsterdam, an Airbnb in the Ozarks. I don't know.  Maybe you just want to go to San Francisco and live as a homeless person for a couple weeks and see what that's like.

Whatever your jam is.

I'm sad it's almost over.

I'm glad to be going home.

Just those two sentences are worth all of it to me.

Hope all of you are well.

Have a safe journey back to home.
It's worthy to get out of busy life and spare some time for yourself.
I did a hike followed by one night camping last month and it will keep me energetic for couple of months before I try new adventure.
 

Did a hike last week to reach this lake situated at 12000 ft height. My clogged arteries feeling good after this intensive hike. It's pollution free  zone because very few people coming here due to it's difficult tracking. Pure water coming from glaciers, clean air and camping.

Location: Baha Lake, Shandur Valley, Pakistan 
Height: 12000 ft 

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation
Chartbuddy thanks talkimg.com

[WatChe]

I just correct my initial reply:
USER COMPLAINT (please be brief):  ____ vapourminer, constantly ignoring and not appreciating few quality posts ______
I think we are all settle now?

To say it in another way.  I am going to complain about vapourminer with the hope that he becomes inspired to send me more merits in the future.  

There is probably a better way to go about trying to accomplish that.. .. but hey, what do I know? I am an alleged "push-over"  (an smerit sending "softie" who apparently falls into the trap of being "played" by the merit farmers and the other members who don't deserve smerits).  

vapourminer has read are resolved your complain by becoming nicer to you.

Don't know with whom you are "softie", as I am thinking of writing a similar complain for you Mr. JJG.

[OgNasty]

I just correct my initial reply:
USER COMPLAINT (please be brief):  ____ vapourminer, constantly ignoring and not appreciating few quality posts ______
I think we are all settle now?

To say it in another way.  I am going to complain about vapourminer with the hope that he becomes inspired to send me more merits in the future.  

There is probably a better way to go about trying to accomplish that.. .. but hey, what do I know? I am an alleged "push-over"  (an smerit sending "softie" who apparently falls into the trap of being "played" by the merit farmers and the other members who don't deserve smerits).  

vapourminer has read are resolved your complain by becoming nicer to you.

Don't know with whom you are "softie", as I am thinking of writing a similar complain for you Mr. JJG.

Just to stir the pot (I can't help myself sometimes).  I love the idea of the guy criticizing longtime Bitcoiners like myself for continuing to stack sats, being obsessed with trying to earn merit (which is completely useless).  At what point did some people in this thread become so weird that posting for merit is more respectable than posting for sats?  It is obvious that this is a ridiculous opinion to have right? 

For the record, I would much prefer people sent me sats as opposed to merits for my posts so feel free to do that instead if you'd like.

[nutildah]

Don't know with whom you are "softie", as I am thinking of writing a similar complain for you Mr. JJG.

This is exactly what I'm talking about. He's more clever than most but he's molded his entire persona around being a JJG suckup. Its nauseating.

OK I will just use Ignore more frequently and I promise not to talk about it anymore. At least not here. At least not until next year...

[philipma1957]

I just correct my initial reply:
USER COMPLAINT (please be brief):  ____ vapourminer, constantly ignoring and not appreciating few quality posts ______
I think we are all settle now?

To say it in another way.  I am going to complain about vapourminer with the hope that he becomes inspired to send me more merits in the future.  

There is probably a better way to go about trying to accomplish that.. .. but hey, what do I know? I am an alleged "push-over"  (an smerit sending "softie" who apparently falls into the trap of being "played" by the merit farmers and the other members who don't deserve smerits).  

vapourminer has read are resolved your complain by becoming nicer to you.

Don't know with whom you are "softie", as I am thinking of writing a similar complain for you Mr. JJG.

Just to stir the pot (I can't help myself sometimes).  I love the idea of the guy criticizing longtime Bitcoiners like myself for continuing to stack sats, being obsessed with trying to earn merit (which is completely useless).  At what point did some people in this thread become so weird that posting for merit is more respectable than posting for sats?  It is obvious that this is a ridiculous opinion to have right? 

For the record, I would much prefer people sent me sats as opposed to merits for my posts so feel free to do that instead if you'd like.

yeah the hand full of people on the thread that may or may not have more than 10 btc do not want people to pick up some crumbs,


Yeah I know its cut and paste herea lot, but once in a while I see a new idea that was grabbed from x and pasted here.

There is not much for those that did dca's and hodl to do or say about btc on the thread.

They won and they still bitch and moan about a little guy trying to win.

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation
Chartbuddy thanks talkimg.com

[philipma1957]

[edited out]

yeah, I also prefer to do the 1 smerit thing. So I see that that naturally comes with difficulties when you have a lot to distribute as a merit source.
Sometimes I just thought, and probably users like nutilda as well, "why is JJG meriting this so obviously merit farming account?"
Which might be not so obvious when you have to go through many new accoutns and decide if to merit

It seems to me that nutildah likes to be a bit of a drama queen, and perhaps even thinking that "he's got it all figured out," and sure, perhaps there are advantages to publicly calling out matters rather than trying to go about it in some kind of a less public and/or diplomatic way.

So, yeah, members have rights to "call out" other members publicly instead of reporting (or maybe supplementing their attempts to report such members), yet it seems that he's trying to be too imposing, and yeah, sure maybe it helps for some merit sources to see how nutildah or others might whine about their smerit sending practices, so whatever he is doing is not completely without affects on how some source members might reconsider their smerit sending practices... and you never know, on the margins too, there might be some ways that nutildah complaining might affect some other more credible members to complain and then theymos might decide to take some action to attempt to address the issue as it had been presented.  

Perhaps? perhaps?  or there could be some Streisand effect, too... depending on how matters might evolve. I have frequently thought that part of the solution would be to have more merit source members, yet I doubt that would even resolve the problem that nutildah is trying to get at and for some reason he thinks that ongoing whining about me might someday have more benefits rather than disadvantages.. .. .since surely there are some members who agree with his position, so it is not like his fantasy ideas are completely without support... and sure ever once in a while I like to call him a dweeb or to tell him to fuck off, but if I were to only stay with that kind of a response, then some members might start to agree with him more because they believe that I am required to make some kind of a further explanation in regards to his ongoing and fairly regular inflammatory attacks implying that I am being abusive or crossing some kind of an imaginary line (that's in his retarded head) that I am being too liberal in my smerit sending and supposedly not engaging in enough due diligence or whatever.. fantasy requirements he would like to informally impose since theymos is seeming to not inclined to be giving nutildah an smerit Czar position (at least not so far, lucky us (meaning the forum))..

I think instead of focusing on the way somebody complains and the affect it might have or not, it's more important to find out the reason why people feel the urge to complain.

The WO content has changed quite a bit when compared to the time before the merit system.
OGs came here (and some are still here) since 2013-14 for the old style WO, and not for consuming the low IQ copy paste shit of 3rd world merit farmers who need a second income.

And frankly that's also nothing what I like to see in my beloved WO!

I always enjoyed the intelligent and diverse input of highly individual crazy people that were buying Bitcoin when everybody laughed at them. Yes the freaks, and I quote, some of God's own prototypes. Some high-powered mutants of some kind never even considered for mass production...

That's what made the WO so special for me. And every step away from that makes me feel sad...

well it is tough bitcointalk has allowed many poor people not be poor due to signature policy.

So to hate JJG for giving merits to farmers is kind of mean spirited.


Also BTC was p2p not hodl

look how I feel doing p2p and using coins to pay while not doing hodl as a choice.

Look at my signature address it handled 700 coins over 10 years time.

One could argue the WO hijacked BTC due to hodl hodl hodl hodl mindset.

and now wants to fuck little third worlders out of some small amounts of coin via farming.

Sounds like uptight asshole take the ladder of success away from them mindset.

...

You say suck it up, so some poor people with absolutely no interest in conversations about BTC can shitpost here, in order to get some coin?

Why do they have to shitpost here in the first place then?
You can just give them the BTC if you want to help them. Don't destroy part of the WO for it !

Most of these 3rd world farmers have no interest in BTC. They just wanna improve their lives. Why do you let them do this meaningless work (shitposting)?  Sounds like quite some condescending supremacist shit to me...

Worse than some rich guy who is proud of generously giving some poor migrant the "opportunity" to scrub his toilet. I mean that's at least some productive work.  

If you wanna do wannabe virtue signalling do it without destroying things people like.

Same goes for passing coins around... why destroy parts of the WO for that?

Such wannabe moral arguments make no sense, sorry.

okay you are right who am i to judge you or anyone that does not like a cut and paste from x.